Robert Plant & Alison Krauss: “Trouble With My Lover” (Live From Sound Emporium Studios)

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Robert Plant takes a back seat in this one, in deference to Alison Krauss’s incredible voice.

Robert Plant & Alison Krauss performing ‘Trouble with My Lover’ live from Nashville’s Sound Emporium Studios.
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Lyrics:

Sometimes I get lonesome
Sometimes I get a little blue
He’s got me walking around in circles
And I don’t know what to do

What good is love
You can’t have it when you want it
What good is love if you
If you can’t own it

Love can be so good
And love can be so cruel
Love can make you happy
Love can make you blow your cool

But when he puts his arms around me
Way in the middle of the dark
You know he fills me up with a kind of delight
Ooh the mans all right

(Trouble with my lover)
I’m in a world of trouble
(Trouble with my lover)
I’m in a world of trouble

I feel so helpless
I can’t help myself
I don’t want to see him, oh no
With nobody else

In the restless hours
I sit home alone
I wish I could meet him oh
This man I love

But when he puts his arms around me
Way in the middle of the dark
You know he fills me up with a kind of delight
Ooh the mans all right

(Trouble with my lover)
I’m in trouble
(Trouble with my lover)
I’m in a world of trouble
(Trouble with my lover)
Mmm
(Trouble with my lover)
I’m in a world of trouble

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183 comments
1
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 5, 2021 • 9:21:17pm

re: #115 Targetpractice

It’s been quite the opposite, Virginia has been going blue in recent elections because VA Dems have been able to counteract efforts by VA Repubs to gerrymander the map in their favor. What happened last month had nothing to do with gerrymandering and everything to do with taking voters for granted.

And as they continue to roll back rights adjudicated by the Supreme Court (Roe, Obergefell, Lawrence, Griswold, Eisenstadt, Brown, the immigration lottery to go back to the 1924 Immigration Act, birthright citizenship), eventually they get to Baker v Carr.

Conservatives haven’t been shy about coming after privacy, they’ve been open about it for decades (Ted Cruz arguing against a right to self-pleasure with devices or owning them, arguing a state interest in birth).

Baker was a ruling on a court case from 1962 that took a whole year to decide by the Supreme Court. In a split decision, the court ruled that Tennessee failed to follow its own constitutional requirement to redistrict after every census. The last redistricting had occurred after the 1900 Census. Tennessee’s argument was that was a legislative decision, and thus beyond the rights of voters to sue about.

In that time, the population had dramatically shifted to Tennessee’s cities, meaning rural counties were much more heavily represented in state and federal elections than urban ones. That ruling established the principle of “one man one vote,” which conservatives absolutely despise (hence the extreme gerrymandering since).

That had the added benefit at the time of removing large minority populations from the electorate in addition to Jim Crow. Even if you could get past the racist requirements to register to vote, minority voters more likely lived in cities, where their votes counted for less.

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Targetpractice  Dec 5, 2021 • 9:22:23pm

The entire reasoning that I’m seeing behind every asshole who argues that what happened yesterday on The Mall was a “false flag” is “They don’t dress like ‘patriots’ do.” Because apparently there’s a set uniform for fascists and if you’re not in it, then you can’t be part of the club.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 5, 2021 • 9:23:51pm

re: #2 Targetpractice

The entire reasoning that I’m seeing behind every asshole who argues that what happened yesterday on The Mall was a “false flag” is “They don’t dress like ‘patriots’ do.” Because apparently there’s a set uniform for fascists and if you’re not in it, then you can’t be part of the club.

Do they mean all the conservatives who violate the US Flag Code by wearing the Flag as apparel? Those patriots?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 5, 2021 • 9:24:43pm

re: #2 Targetpractice

The entire reasoning that I’m seeing behind every asshole who argues that what happened yesterday on The Mall was a “false flag” is “They don’t dress like ‘patriots’ do.” Because apparently there’s a set uniform for fascists and if you’re not in it, then you can’t be part of the club.

Patriots wear silver shirts from the Thirties. /s

5
William Lewis  Dec 5, 2021 • 9:26:28pm

From downstairs:

re: #120 William Lewis

To this day, I believe he (Snowden) was turned by Russian Intel while in Geneva. Everything after that date was at his handler’s directions.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 5, 2021 • 9:27:39pm

I’m assuming Alison Krauss has retired her angels as we haven’t heard anything new from her for a while.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 5, 2021 • 9:31:58pm

re: #113 retired cynic

Weather incoming here. The wind has really started to moan in the pecans.

Tell the wind and pecan trees to get a room. /s

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Targetpractice  Dec 5, 2021 • 9:34:15pm

This is the nightmare scenario that ammosexuals have feared for years:

Nothing scares them more than the idea of accountability.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 5, 2021 • 9:47:17pm

Dressed for a night ride, temp 47F.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 5, 2021 • 9:51:25pm

Yes, that’s a bottle opener and an electric cigarette lighter on my phone case..

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Targetpractice  Dec 5, 2021 • 9:55:20pm

re: #10 Dread Pirate Ron

Yes, that’s a bottle opener and an electric cigarette lighter on my phone case..

Neat.

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retired cynic  Dec 5, 2021 • 9:58:16pm

Love this song; but I’m a sucker for Alison Krauss any day of the week.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Dec 5, 2021 • 10:00:06pm

re: #8 Targetpractice

This is the nightmare scenario that ammosexuals have feared for years:

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Nothing scares them more than the idea of accountability.

And it’s one thing I bet most gun owners will support (the ones that don’t pose holding an AR-15 and the Bible to show how merican they are).

They cant scare us with any “gun-grabbing/banning” fearmongering over this. As someone who isn’t a gun nut but would likely be thought of as one by a some of the people reading this, I wholeheartedly support this.

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Targetpractice  Dec 5, 2021 • 10:11:13pm

re: #13 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

And it’s one thing I bet most gun owners will support (the ones that don’t pose holding an AR-15 and the Bible to show how merican they are).

They cant scare us with any “gun-grabbing/banning” fearmongering over this. As someone who isn’t a gun nut but would likely be thought of as one by a some of the people reading this, I wholeheartedly support this.

What I consider telling is if you go over to any wingnut echo chamber, they’re not even really trying to defend the Crumbleys. They’re attacking the prosecutor and the school, but they are almost all in agreement that the parents are fucking losers. The only thing they feel like defending…are the guns.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 5, 2021 • 10:15:53pm

re: #13 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

And it’s one thing I bet most gun owners will support (the ones that don’t pose holding an AR-15 and the Bible to show how merican they are).

They cant scare us with any “gun-grabbing/banning” fearmongering over this. As someone who isn’t a gun nut but would likely be thought of as one by a some of the people reading this, I wholeheartedly support this.

I have only a shotgun, but I have no trouble with a raft of regulations to cut down on the culture of death, from red flag laws to closing the gun show loophole to proper registration (including shotguns) to holding owners accountable for the security of their firearms.

When wingnuts started proclaiming “Second Amendment Sanctuaries,” in Nebraska my county was ignominiously the first one to do it, followed by Gov. Pete Ricketts praising our county commission. Ugh.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 5, 2021 • 10:25:40pm

re: #15 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I have only a shotgun, but I have no trouble with a raft of regulations to cut down on the culture of death, from red flag laws to closing the gun show loophole to proper registration (including shotguns) to holding owners accountable for the security of their firearms.

When wingnuts started proclaiming “Second Amendment Sanctuaries,” in Nebraska my county was ignominiously the first one to do it, followed by Gov. Pete Ricketts praising our county commission. Ugh.

It has to be more than closing the gun show loophole. It has to be illegal for anyone to handle a gun unless they pass a background check and have a valid license; no guns given as gifts or inherited except by those with a valid gun license; and licenses should last no more than 3 years and require renewal. There must also be harsh penalties for anyone involved in straw purchases.

As to ghost guns — why cannot those be outlawed nationwide? Anyone involved in the manufacture or sale or transfer of such weapons should face a stiff prison sentence.

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TedStriker  Dec 5, 2021 • 10:56:32pm

re: #14 Targetpractice

What I consider telling is if you go over to any wingnut echo chamber, they’re not even really trying to defend the Crumbleys. They’re attacking the prosecutor and the school, but they are almost all in agreement that the parents are fucking losers. The only thing they feel like defending…are the guns.

I’m guessing a huge reason why the wingnuts aren’t really coming to the defense of the Crumbley parents is because they couldn’t even manage to escape from town, much less flee the country (and Canada was literally across the river from where they were caught), all while they left their son to rot in jail.

I’ll agree, the Crumbley parents are fucking losers….their son was one huge red flag who seriously needed help and they not only ignored that, they literally gave him the weapon he used to kill and maim.

The kid can spend the rest of his natural life in a secure psychiatric facility, because it’s become patently obvious over the past few days he is and was not of sound mind, but he still has to pay a price to society for what he did; however, the parents need to be thrown under the fucking jail to rot.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 5, 2021 • 11:31:09pm

re: #16 Hecuba’s daughter

It has to be more than closing the gun show loophole. It has to be illegal for anyone to handle a gun unless they pass a background check and have a valid license; no guns given as gifts or inherited except by those with a valid gun license; and licenses should last no more than 3 years and require renewal. There must also be harsh penalties for anyone involved in straw purchases.

As to ghost guns — why cannot those be outlawed nationwide? Anyone involved in the manufacture or sale or transfer of such weapons should face a stiff prison sentence.

I’m not sure how you could enforce the background check proposal on your average Joe or Jane loaning their hunting rifle to their friend for the afternoon, but we gotta start someplace.

Red flag laws would certainly cut down on domestic murders. I’m all in on banning giving firearms (or other weapons) as gifts without some sort of training or license.

I’m all for taking the NRA’s own safety rules and making them laws with penalties.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 5, 2021 • 11:34:36pm

Another body builder and anti-vaxxer goes on ICU ventilator death watch over at Sorry Antivaxxer.

He is forty-four years old. Somehow he went from promoting his nutrition business on social media to promoting wingnut antivax nonsense, so much so that his own customers pointed it out to him.

sorryantivaxxer.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 5, 2021 • 11:37:13pm

re: #18 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

OT.

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sagehen  Dec 5, 2021 • 11:44:24pm

re: #20 Hecuba’s daughter

OT.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 5, 2021 • 11:54:11pm

re: #20 Hecuba’s daughter

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2021 • 12:05:32am

re: #17 TedStriker

I’m guessing a huge reason why the wingnuts aren’t really coming to the defense of the Crumbley parents is because they couldn’t even manage to escape from town, much less flee the country (and Canada was literally across the river from where they were caught), all while they left their son to rot in jail.

I’ll agree, the Crumbley parents are fucking losers….their son was one huge red flag who seriously needed help and they not only ignored that, they literally gave him the weapon he used to kill and maim.

The kid can spend the rest of his natural life in a psychiatric prison, because it’s become patently obvious he is and was not of sound mind, but he still has to pay a price to society for what he did; however, the parents need to be thrown under the fucking jail to rot.

The only real defense (if you could call it that) is “whataboutism.” They’re conceding that the parents are fuck-ups, but are arguing that they shouldn’t face charges because “WHAT ABOUT THE SCHOOL!?” Which really gives the game away that this has nothing to do with a belief that they did nothing wrong and more a worry that if they are convicted then other prosecutors might gain confidence to begin holding neglectful gun-owners accountable for crimes committed with their “lost”/”stolen” guns.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2021 • 12:14:27am

It’s bad enough our state attorney general Doug Peterson entered into the multi-state lawsuit to stop vaccine mandates (currently enjoined by the District Court for the District of Eastern Missouri).

Hospital administrators in the area are also promoting wingnut propaganda about vaccines. Quoting Box Butte General Hospital (county seat Alliance) CEO Lori Mazanec in the Alliance Times-Herald:

“The ultimate goal of the vaccine mandate, per CMS, is to keep patients safe,” said Mazanec. “Patients are and will continue to be safe in our hospital whether our team is vaccinated or not vaccinated. The current rate of eligible individuals vaccinated in the Nebraska Panhandle is 40 percent. Patients are not coming to the hospital for services and becoming ill with COVID. Patients seek care when sick with COVID and our teams provide the highest level of care and excellence with or without vaccinations. The authority for the COVID pandemic guidelines has been left with the states to govern. It should and needs to continue to remain at the state level.”

alliancetimes.com

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2021 • 12:18:18am

re: #25 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It’s bad enough our state attorney general Doug Peterson entered into the multi-state lawsuit to stop vaccine mandates (currently enjoined by the District Court for the District of Eastern Missouri).

Hospital administrators in the area are also promoting wingnut propaganda about vaccines. Quoting Box Butte General Hospital (county seat Alliance) CEO Lori Mazanec in the Alliance Times-Herald:

alliancetimes.com

That’s absolutely fucking ridiculous. There is no way they can say with any level of confidence that the only people with COVID in their hospitals are people who contracted it from elsewhere.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2021 • 12:38:27am

re: #26 Targetpractice

That’s absolutely fucking ridiculous. There is no way they can say with any level of confidence that the only people with COVID in their hospitals are people who contracted it from elsewhere.

Plus a vaccination rate of 40% in the Panhandle is far too low to arrest the spread of Covid-19.

Plus “will be safe whether our team is vaccinated or not vaccinated.” Gaa. That also fits in with the governor’s offer to pay bonuses to anyone fired in another state over a hospital vaccine mandate to move to Nebraska.

It is the unvaccinated who are primarily spreading and becoming seriously ill from Covid-19.

Her arguments are Republican talking points, not medical information.

A little less than 10% of the county has had the disease.

Box Butte General Hospital is considered a Critical Care Access Hospital by the federal government. According to state data, the hospital has twenty-five beds total.

Her argument was that requiring vaccinations would cause an unbearable administrative load tracking employees and patients, and would jeopardise the safety of those same patients (by increasing the workload of nursing staff who would quit).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2021 • 12:47:52am

Early in the pandemic when there was no vaccine and Panhandle Public Health District quarantined the entire Panhandle to discourage out-of-area people from coming in, a single Covid-positive visitor from Colorado to Kimball shut down Kimball Health Services (another critical access hospital, in Kimball, Nebr.) for a couple weeks. That also engulfed the Panhandle with Covid-19, though we managed to have no cases detected (when we still had testing before the governor shut it down) for the first five months.

There’s no way staff at Box Butte General Hospital haven’t been repeatedly exposed.

Kimball’s hospital was shut was back when we still had contact tracing before the governor shut it down citing privacy concerns.

The hospital was shut for two weeks with patients transferred to other hospitals, so it could be sanitised. Out of an abundance of caution, Kimball Health Services also shut their satellite clinic in Pine Bluffs, Wyoming (since staff members travel between the two facilities).

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2021 • 12:55:40am

re: #27 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Plus a vaccination rate of 40% in the Panhandle is far too low to arrest the spread of Covid-19.

Plus “will be safe whether our team is vaccinated or not vaccinated.” Gaa. That also fits in with the governor’s offer to pay bonuses to anyone fired in another state over a hospital vaccine mandate to move to Nebraska.

It is the unvaccinated who are primarily spreading and becoming seriously ill from Covid-19.

Her arguments are Republican talking points, not medical information.

A little less than 10% of the county has had the disease.

Box Butte General Hospital is considered a Critical Care Access Hospital by the federal government. According to state data, the hospital has twenty-five beds total.

Her argument was that requiring vaccinations would cause an unbearable administrative load tracking employees and patients, and would jeopardise the safety of those same patients (by increasing the workload of nursing staff who would quit).

Because Repubs are only interested in dragging out the pandemic in the hope that they can use voter frustration to win next year. Hence why they’re doing everything they can to not only incentivize resistance to vaccination efforts, but also punish those who cooperate with such.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2021 • 1:02:31am

re: #8 Targetpractice

Washington Post explains why charging parents of under-age mass shooters must be the next step

Three words that confuse and scare them: well, regulated & militia.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2021 • 1:06:10am

re: #29 Targetpractice

Because Repubs are only interested in dragging out the pandemic in the hope that they can use voter frustration to win next year. Hence why they’re doing everything they can to not only incentivize resistance to vaccination efforts, but also punish those who cooperate with such.

I don’t think a lot of them are thinking/planning that far ahead: they simply see loud, aggressive, knee-jerk opposition to any government measures to contain Covid as part of their ideology and identity.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 6, 2021 • 1:14:55am

Could be used in a horror film:

3rd Prize | Karol Szymanowski – The Spring of Arethusa from Myths Op. 30 Justyna Liber – violin

..

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2021 • 1:51:20am

re: #32 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

You killed the thread dead with that fiddle player.

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2021 • 1:54:19am

re: #33 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You killed the thread dead with that fiddle player.

I’m not dead yet.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2021 • 1:55:44am

re: #34 Targetpractice

I’m not dead yet.

undead?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 6, 2021 • 2:02:11am

YouTube

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2021 • 2:03:49am

re: #36 Dread Pirate Ron

My Brain Hurts

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2021 • 2:04:22am

Biden administration expected to announce diplomatic boycott of Beijing Olympics this week (CNN)

The boycott would only be by US Government officials. Athletes would still be allowed to compete. It is expected in response to human rights abuses in China.

In response to the news, Beijing warned it would take “resolute countermeasures” against the Biden administration if the diplomatic boycott went ahead.

“The US should stop politicizing sports and hyping up the so-called ‘diplomatic boycott’ so as not to affect China-US dialogue and cooperation in important areas,” Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Zhao Lijian said at a news conference Monday.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 6, 2021 • 2:06:26am

YouTube

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2021 • 2:06:29am

re: #38 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Biden administration expected to announce diplomatic boycott of Beijing Olympics this week (CNN)

I gave up on the Olympics ages ago. Sometimes I tune in the Winter Olympic hockey because it tends to be less violent than the NHL.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 6, 2021 • 2:09:05am

re: #40 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I gave up on the Olympics ages ago. Sometimes I tune in the Winter Olympic hockey because it tends to be less violent than the NHL.

I try to catch the Curling, but that’s all. Summer Olympics doesn’t interest me at all.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 6, 2021 • 2:14:25am

YouTube

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2021 • 2:27:58am

re: #41 Dread Pirate Ron

I try to catch the Curling, but that’s all. Summer Olympics doesn’t interest me at all.

I had to quit watching that because of all the broomstick fights…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2021 • 2:28:32am

re: #43 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I had to quit watching that because of all the broomstick fights…

Too many witches.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2021 • 2:31:27am

Why is Curling a Sport when Larrying and Moeing aren’t recognized?

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Dec 6, 2021 • 2:37:08am

re: #33 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You killed the thread dead with that fiddle player.

“Scratch one fiddle player”

Bonus points for getting that reference.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2021 • 2:37:22am

Well, it’s time … bedtime … need to crawl off to bed.

(3:01)

Johannes Brahms - Lullaby

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2021 • 2:59:34am

re: #40 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I gave up on the Olympics ages ago. Sometimes I tune in the Winter Olympic hockey because it tends to be less violent than the NHL.

I had interest in trying to watch the 2020 summer games before COVID. But once it became apparent that it was just going to end up being an empty spectacle pushed forward by Japan to justify their investment in hosting the games, I realized there wasn’t much point in watching.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2021 • 3:11:44am

re: #48 Targetpractice

I had interest in trying to watch the 2020 summer games before COVID. But once it became apparent that it was just going to end up being an empty spectacle pushed forward by Japan to justify their investment in hosting the games, I realized there wasn’t much point in watching.

Brazil was the final straw for me. A country lacking basic social services investing millions to build stadiums and facilities that are now standing empty.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Dec 6, 2021 • 3:15:01am

re: #49 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Brazil was the final straw for me. A country lacking basic social services investing millions to build stadiums and facilities that are now standing empty.

I’ve been wondering if perhaps the IOC, should setup a permanent facility in Greece, funded by all IOC participants, rather than putting the burden solely on Greece, to avoid this kind of nonsense in the future. Especially since it seems like every place that has hosted games post LA 1984 has been an economic and environmental disaster for them.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 6, 2021 • 3:23:17am

re: #10 Dread Pirate Ron

Yes, that’s a bottle opener and an electric cigarette lighter on my phone case..

At first I thought it was the Batman symbol.

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William Lewis  Dec 6, 2021 • 3:29:38am

re: #50 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

I’ve been wondering if perhaps the IOC, should setup a permanent facility in Greece, funded by all IOC participants, rather than putting the burden solely on Greece, to avoid this kind of nonsense in the future. Especially since it seems like every place that has hosted games post LA 1984 has been an economic and environmental disaster for them.

But then they wouldn’t be able to engage in the IOC’s only real function - massive bribery and other graft.

Honestly the most useful revolutionary act in the west would be to shut down the IOC. They would save billions for the world.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Dec 6, 2021 • 3:36:25am

re: #52 William Lewis

But then they wouldn’t be able to engage in the IOC’s only real function - massive bribery and other graft.

Honestly the most useful revolutionary act in the west would be to shut down the IOC. They would save billions for the world.

“Cure the disease by killing the patient” solutions are something we need less of, not more. If the Olympic Games were a wholly and inherently bad thing we just did because of “tradition” that would be one thing, but they aren’t.

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William Lewis  Dec 6, 2021 • 3:42:15am

re: #53 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

“Cure the disease by killing the patient” solutions are something we need less of, not more. If the Olympic Games were a wholly and inherently bad thing we just did because of “tradition” that would be one thing, but they aren’t.

I do not see any good thing about them nor anything that would be lost if they were gone. Sorry.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 6, 2021 • 3:43:12am

re: #54 William Lewis

I do not see any good thing about them nor anything that would be lost if they were gone. Sorry.

Not even sexy time in the Olympic Village?

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Dec 6, 2021 • 3:47:15am

re: #54 William Lewis

I do not see any good thing about them nor anything that would be lost if they were gone. Sorry.

I think most sports are asinine and corrupt as more money gets involved but I don’t want them abolished. I know many people enjoy them and I don’t believe stomping on the dreams of young athletes because you don’t like some of the politics involved to be something positive.

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jeffreyw  Dec 6, 2021 • 3:51:42am

My Peanut!

My Little Chickadee!

Good morning!

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jeffreyw  Dec 6, 2021 • 3:56:55am

That cold front blew through last night dropped 3” rain, made a lot of window rattling thunder booms, and took out my wireline internet. I’m running off of my Pixel hotspot connected to the Visible (Verizon) LTE network.

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jeffreyw  Dec 6, 2021 • 3:58:45am

re: #58 jeffreyw

…and Frontier is back!

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 6, 2021 • 4:07:17am

Thank you Charles for fixing my account, I had two factor authentication enabled, and I wasn’t getting the text. Then I realized I emailed without using my handle, I am such a dum dum.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 6, 2021 • 4:16:10am

re: #51 Eventual Carrion

At first I thought it was the Batman symbol.

I’m Batman!

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William Lewis  Dec 6, 2021 • 4:19:31am

re: #61 Dread Pirate Ron

I’m Batman!

No! I’m Batman.

Oh, wait, wrong movie.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 6, 2021 • 4:41:48am

I read that this week Germany will have a peaceful transition of power as the Free Democrats agreed to enter a coalition government with the Social Democrats and the Greens. At least democracy is still functioning in Germany.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2021 • 4:52:35am

re: #54 William Lewis

I do not see any good thing about them nor anything that would be lost if they were gone. Sorry.

The Olympic Spirit is a grand thing, but the IOC has come to have about as much relevance to human ideals of fair and free competition and striving for excellence as the NFL or NBA…

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Florida Panhandler  Dec 6, 2021 • 4:55:56am

re: #63 No Malarkey!

I read that this week Germany will have a peaceful transition of power as the Free Democrats agreed to enter a coalition government with the Social Democrats and the Greens. At least democracy is still functioning in Germany.

I consider Japan followed by Germany the largest population full democracies in the world. How ironic that the losers of WW2 under cruel dictatorships would now be the leaders.

The US has been a deeply flawed democracy since Bush/Cheney with one foot over the line into Hybrid Regime with Trump. We still teeter into Hybrid Regime territory with Republican states now placing Republican Party hacks and partisans in power specifically and openly to overturn and ignore the popular vote.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2021 • 5:00:55am

re: #63 No Malarkey!

I read that this week Germany will have a peaceful transition of power as the Free Democrats agreed to enter a coalition government with the Social Democrats and the Greens. At least democracy is still functioning in Germany.

There was no question about the outcome of the election, the only issue was which parties were to be assigned to head which ministries.

The Socialists get

Internal affairs and Homeland
Labor and Social
Health
Construction
Economic Cooperation & Development
Climate Protection

Greens get

Foreign Ministry
Family
Environment

Liberal Democrats get

Finance
Justice
Transportation
Education & Research

Sounds like the Liberal Democrats (liberal in the economic sense) party got the best end of the deal:

Finance is the key to everything, Germany is a major transportation hub, Education is the key to their development and the Liberal Democrats are rather Libertarian in their views on individual rights, State surveillance & control of information.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2021 • 5:02:15am

People who can’t do math:

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 6, 2021 • 5:21:35am

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. San Francisco suspends tax on cannabis retailers to help them compete with illegal dealers after looters stole $5million of products from 15 dispensaries in a month

Oakland Police Chief LeRonne Armstrong told reporters that ‘hundreds’ of vehicles targeted marijuana stores in Oakland last month, firing 175 shots and stealing about $5million worth of products.

City supervisor Rafael Mandeman told the San Francisco Examiner the legal cannabis market is helping create jobs and offering regulated products to customers.

But he said: ‘Sadly, the illegal market is flourishing by undercutting the prices of legal businesses, which is bad for our economy as illegal businesses pay no taxes while subjecting workers to dangerous conditions and consumers to dangerous products.

dailymail.co.uk

From another source:

“Cannabis businesses create good jobs for San Franciscans and provide safe, regulated products to their customers,” Mandelman said in a statement. “Sadly, the illegal market is flourishing by undercutting the prices of legal businesses, which is bad for our economy as illegal businesses pay no taxes while subjecting workers to dangerous conditions and consumers to dangerous products. Now is not the time to impose a new tax on small businesses that are just getting established and trying to compete with illicit operators.”

Mandelman’s office pointed to a Dec. 19 report from the California Legislative Analyst’s Office that found that increased state cannabis tax rates were directly linked to illegal cannabis sales.

In addition to the illegal sales, increased theft is also creating problems for cannabis retailers.

In a recent case, on Nov. 16, an armed group stole thousands of dollars’ worth of merchandise from cannabis retailer BASA, located on Grove Street. The burglary was the fifth at the location, according to Mandelman’s office.

sfexaminer.com

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 6, 2021 • 5:36:28am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2021 • 5:48:48am

is this for real or a piss-take?

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Dec 6, 2021 • 5:55:29am

re: #70 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

is this for real?

People are acting like Trump actually released this himself.

or a piss-take?

Clearly. If it came from Trump, someone who works for him was having some fun at the expense of their brain-damaged employer who would not be able to see what they’d obviously done.

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steve_davis  Dec 6, 2021 • 6:02:12am

re: #68 Shropshire Slasher

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. San Francisco suspends tax on cannabis retailers to help them compete with illegal dealers after looters stole $5million of products from 15 dispensaries in a month

dailymail.co.uk

From another source:

sfexaminer.com

look for san francisco to go the route of the New California Republic: friendly blue-uniformed officers on every street corner, armed with Pancor Jackhammers.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 6, 2021 • 6:09:54am

Did Google change something in Chrome? When I right-click to “Search Google for image” it’s not in the menu options.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 6, 2021 • 6:12:34am

Found it here:

With the new update, users can now only view images through the “Visit” button, which takes them to the webpage that contains the image. This means that users would have to access the website first, before retrieving the image from the internet. While the update might seem like a simple option change, it is one of the most frequently used buttons on the site, as it instantly leads users to the image in fewer clicks. Image search has also been removed as well. However, users would still be able to do a reverse image search on the website to look for images sources.

While the update might seem like a sudden change, it has been something that was bound to happen, due to the charges filed by Getty Images against Google. The accusation was that Google was promoting image piracy by giving users an easier way to access multiple images. This led to Google establishing a partnership with Getty, and updating Google images in order for the charges to be dropped.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Dec 6, 2021 • 6:13:07am

re: #68 Shropshire Slasher

Legalization was sold to politicians as a means of brutal taxation, so unsurprisingly the taxes are ridiculous.

This is in Illinois for a .5g cart that would go for about $20 on the black market. The price is extremely high, and the tax is about the black market price.

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darthstar  Dec 6, 2021 • 6:32:32am

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Dangerman  Dec 6, 2021 • 6:33:35am

re: #18 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

…

I’m all for taking the NRA’s own safety rules and making them laws with penalties.

I have not read through the thread yet and i know im a one trick pony on this,

None of these great and logical ideas will ever fly - there will never be enough votes or support for licenses, insurance, ‘ban’s, etc.

what has a chance, and maybe only a 1% chance as someone here (i cant remember who) pointed out to me is responsibility/accountability. the same way it applies to every other thing in life.

yes - use the NRA’s message because it’s simple: Control your weapon at all times - that’s all that’s needed

Control means holding, handling, storing, lending, selling (who and how you sell to is YOUR responsibility), carrying, brandishing, etc.

We may have hit a point where a schism starts to show.
The mostly conscientious, responsible gun owners have let the nutters and the crazies be the face of all gun owners.
Up to now it really hasnt hurt their cause much.
This is odd because the nutters and crazies so far were all mass shooters.
Somehow the gun lobby has threaded the needle that ‘they’ arent us.

Now they’ve got these two ‘parents’ who didn’t pull a trigger and are way more like the gun owning masses. And are clearly not nuts. Maybe not reasonable, but certainly ‘understandable’. (ok up to ‘don’t get caught LOL’)

Maybe now the rest of gun owners will see that holding people like these two responsible for what they did has absolutely no effect on everyone else’s ownership or behavior and never would. just like arresting a DUI has no effect on my or my license or my driving.

and if they start to cull out the demonstrably irresponsible and the truly dangerous the rest of us can go about our gun toting lives more or less unharassed.

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 6, 2021 • 6:33:51am

Wow, Ukraine is surrounded.

Satellite images have revealed huge new camps of Russian troops, tanks and artillery near the Ukrainian border as Vladimir Putin continues massing his forces on Europe’s doorstep amid warnings he could invade within weeks.

Newly-published images document at least three camps housing seven battalions of troops near at Yelnya and Pogonovo, between 100 and 150 miles from the border, which analysts say have arrived in the last month.

More images taken from Russian-occupied Crimea shows what appears to be dozens of tanks and artillery pieces parked on a base at Novoozerne, around 80 miles from the border, which have also arrived in recent weeks.

dailymail.co.uk

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2021 • 6:35:10am

re: #77 Dangerman

It is all a result of our obsession with the Right to Bear Arms part and total neglect of the Well Regulated Militia part of the 2A

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2021 • 6:37:29am

re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is all a result of our obsession with the Right to Bear Arms part and total neglect of the Well Regulated Militia part of the 2A

That was Scalia’s goal.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2021 • 6:40:00am

re: #80 Belafon

That was Scalia’s goal.

Just have that clause stricken as nobody pays any attention to it anymore…

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Dangerman  Dec 6, 2021 • 6:42:45am

re: #76 darthstar

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We blew past 1984 and 2001
I’m not worried

Eta: yet

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 6, 2021 • 6:43:17am

This seems dystopic.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2021 • 6:45:15am

re: #83 The Pie Overlord!

This seems dystopic.

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I wonder if blades come out:

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 6, 2021 • 6:48:21am

re: #84 Belafon

I wonder if blades come out:

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Beat me to it. I was going to search for a Futurama suicide box pic myself.

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darthstar  Dec 6, 2021 • 6:49:28am

re: #84 Belafon

I wonder if blades come out:

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Then it would have to be sanitized between uses. Can’t risk giving the next person an infection.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 6, 2021 • 6:50:36am

I’d love to see Plant and Krauss when they come to Atlanta next year but damn, the tickets aren’t cheap. Over or close to a hundred bucks a pop by the time you add taxes and fees. I don’t think you can purchase directly via the venue either, which sometimes knocks the price down.

I guess with the advent of all sorts of ways to get music online for free or next to nothing, artists have to get their money somehow, and they deserve that, but it puts live music out of reach for a lot of people who love it but can’t afford it. Sigh.

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darthstar  Dec 6, 2021 • 6:50:53am

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mmmirele  Dec 6, 2021 • 6:53:12am

re: #83 The Pie Overlord!

This seems dystopic.

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The coffin or assisted suicide in general?

In 2015, a Canadian friend of mine went to Switzerland to commit assisted suicide. She had terminal, inoperable lung cancer and was terrified that if she stayed in Canada that under Stephen Harper’s government, they wouldn’t let her just die but would force unneeded care upon her. So she went through the trouble, and it was quite a bit of trouble, to get the paperwork needed to show the Swiss that 1) she was who she said she was and 2) she had a terminal diagnosis.

Prior to going to Switzerland, she and a friend visited Iceland and left behind a Facebook with lots of pictures before heading off to Geneva, where she died peacefully. By the end she was having trouble breathing due to the mass in her lungs. I thought it was awfully brave of her to do what she did. I don’t know if I could have done it.

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Dangerman  Dec 6, 2021 • 6:53:39am

re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is all a result of our obsession with the Right to Bear Arms part and total neglect of the Well Regulated Militia part of the 2A

you are not wrong and i agree
and
that ship has sailed and isn’t coming back anytime soon
any discussion about interpretations of the 2A is pointless.
there will never be agreement.

what has a slim chance is coming to terms with the fact that every right whether enumerated in the constitution or not, comes with responsibilities.

we know this in most every other aspect of life.
those who try to get away with stuff using clever legal maneuverings know it too (OJ, rittenhouse, etc)

there is no right that is responsibility free. Including the RKBA.

what we have done collectively, legislatively, and judicially is ignore this basic premise - when it comes to guns.

‘accidents’, ‘he’s suffered enough’, etc., lax enforcement of straw sales, brandishing, etc.

you all know my stance
hold people personally responsible for what they undeniably do.

if when they have demonstrated they cannot control their weapons at all times, they should lose their freedom, their finances, and their future 2A privileges.

holding people accountable may make others behave just a bit more carefully.

and ‘a bit more carefully’ can cut those annual killed and injured numbers way down.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Dec 6, 2021 • 6:55:50am

re: #57 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

Early spring flowers on the UC campus. It begins….

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Dangerman  Dec 6, 2021 • 6:56:51am

re: #90 Dangerman

ps

this idea that the school is to blame and the kid should/shouldn’t have been sent home and that is the only failure in all this is utter nonsense

the kid should have been arrested. on the spot.
then evaluated.
ffs, they arrest 3rd graders for ‘acting out’

it should not have been left up the parent’s discretion
or the school’s.

they are not experts in this

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2021 • 6:57:34am

re: #90 Dangerman

As long as the Gun is still seen as a a Fetish and Sacred Totem of the Cult of Rugged Individuals Defending their God-Given Freedoms (and protecting themselves against criminals, foreign invaders or a totalitarian government) we will not be able to hang any serious consequences of people who bear them irresponsibly.

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BigPapa  Dec 6, 2021 • 6:58:05am

re: #70 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

is this for real or a piss-take?

I can’t believe it’s real. Many assume it is.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2021 • 6:58:50am

re: #94 BigPapa

I can’t believe it’s real. Many assume it is.

I was about to send it along and then checked, it cannot be real. (Trump hates to wear tuxedos)

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darthstar  Dec 6, 2021 • 7:01:24am

re: #92 Dangerman

ps

ffs, they arrest black 3rd graders for ‘acting out’

.

fify

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2021 • 7:01:57am

re: #93 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As long as the Gun is still seen as a a Fetish and Sacred Totem of the Cult of Rugged Individuals Defending their God-Given Freedoms (and protecting themselves against criminals, foreign invaders or a totalitarian government) the way for white people to maintain power we will not be able to hang any serious consequences of people who bear them irresponsibly.

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darthstar  Dec 6, 2021 • 7:02:57am

re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I was about to send it along and then checked, it cannot be real. (Trump hates to wear tuxedos)

I dislike it because Trumpers will not see the penis joke or the missing Barron - only “President” in front of the asshole’s name.

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darthstar  Dec 6, 2021 • 7:04:36am

Also, the tux pic is from his visit to the Queen.
in a spoiler to keep the thread clean

Click to Reveal
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Belafon  Dec 6, 2021 • 7:06:23am

Too close:

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nines09  Dec 6, 2021 • 7:06:59am

re: #87 A Mom Anon

$100 a ticket is not bad for that. Check out the pricing on other acts. 2-3 hundred bucks or more.
One reason I haven’t seen a lot of acts.
That and a virus that won’t go away because stupid is too stupit.

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Dangerman  Dec 6, 2021 • 7:07:02am

re: #94 BigPapa

I can’t believe it’s real. Many assume it is.

i think the tuxedo picture was cropped and edited from his visit with the queen
it looks a lot like this

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BigPapa  Dec 6, 2021 • 7:08:21am

re: #100 Belafon

Tis but a scratch. It’ll buff out, sir.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2021 • 7:09:01am

re: #102 Dangerman

i think the tuxedo picture was cropped and edited from his visit with the queen
it looks a lot like this

Trump dislikes tuxedos (because they really make him look like an ungainly tub of lard) and would only wear one for a state visit such as this one where it is compulsory.

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darthstar  Dec 6, 2021 • 7:11:26am

re: #100 Belafon

That chipped the ice off the car.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2021 • 7:13:50am
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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Dec 6, 2021 • 7:14:10am

re: #96 darthstar

ps

ffs, they arrest disproportionately black 3rd graders for ‘acting out’

ftfy

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2021 • 7:16:07am

re: #106 Belafon

I’d just like to point out that Boebert has a sticker of herself on her phone. Totally normal.

easier than learning how to spell her name

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 6, 2021 • 7:20:29am

re: #100 Belafon

Too close:

It’s an older video, but still, dude was damn lucky.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 6, 2021 • 7:21:41am

re: #99 darthstar

Also, the tux pic is from his visit to the Queen.
in a spoiler to keep the thread clean

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The Queen looks pissed.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2021 • 7:21:53am

Walker is my son:

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2021 • 7:26:42am

I missed this:

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 6, 2021 • 7:35:13am

re: #21 sagehen

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2021 • 7:38:27am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Got boosted yesterday morning and got fever and chills just in time to not sleep last night. I’m doing better this morning, but feel wiped out.

It’s still a whole lot better than getting covid19 and dying. I can deal with this, but there’s a lot of people who can’t afford to lose even a day of work, or have kids they need to attend to and can’t deal with any time away from work/child care.

This pandemic has exposed all kinds of faults with how we deal with child care, health care, and employment in the nation.

All the while, the GOP has sided with more covid19 and more death and misery at every turn. That’s despite claiming that without Trump we wouldn’t have the very vaccines that right wingers refuse to take.

But if you look at demographics, persons of color are still not getting vaccinated at rates that they should. This could be a combination of location, access, and concerns about vaccinations that have historically permeated how the US deals with persons of color generally.

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2021 • 7:39:34am
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 6, 2021 • 7:41:37am

re: #23 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 6, 2021 • 7:44:40am

Sorry about the disinfo with the Trump Xmas card. I thought it was pretty funny and didn’t really give it much thought beyond that.

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Dangerman  Dec 6, 2021 • 7:49:59am

re: #104 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump dislikes tuxedos (because they really make him look like an ungainly tub of lard) and would only wear one for a state visit such as this one where it is compulsory.

and he wore it so badly…

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2021 • 7:50:31am
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DodgerFan1988  Dec 6, 2021 • 7:54:40am
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nines09  Dec 6, 2021 • 7:54:49am

re: #115 lawhawk

The ownership of guns should come with the ownership of whatever bad happens with that gun is your responsibility.

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Dangerman  Dec 6, 2021 • 7:55:16am

re: #115 lawhawk

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winner
who but the owner has total legal and physical control over his own property?
if you own it, you are responsible.
unless you had it secured, it was stolen, and you promptly reported the theft.
you know, like a responsible person would do with, say, their e-bike.

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Teukka  Dec 6, 2021 • 7:59:44am

re: #100 Belafon

Too close:

It was once said…
“With corruption, everyone pays.”
This guy was lucky it was just a reinforced concrete slab destroying his car…

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Dangerman  Dec 6, 2021 • 8:00:10am

re: #119 Belafon

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re: writing and calling the Deities

THE POPE, THE RABBI AND A TELEPHONE CALL TO HEAVEN FROM JERUSALEM

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Dangerman  Dec 6, 2021 • 8:03:30am

re: #121 nines09

The ownership of guns should come with the ownership of whatever bad happens with that gun is your responsibility.

it does.
just like with every other aspect of life.
guns are not special such that owning one is consequence free. (it just seems so).
it’s just that with guns, this has not been directly and forcefully addressed or enforced.

126
Hecuba's daughter  Dec 6, 2021 • 8:04:30am

re: #77 Dangerman

I have not read through the thread yet and i know im a one trick pony on this,

None of these great and logical ideas will ever fly - there will never be enough votes or support for licenses, insurance, ‘ban’s, etc.

what has a chance, and maybe only a 1% chance as someone here (i cant remember who) pointed out to me is responsibility/accountability. the same way it applies to every other thing in life.

yes - use the NRA’s message because it’s simple: Control your weapon at all times - that’s all that’s needed

Control means holding, handling, storing, lending, selling (who and how you sell to is YOUR responsibility), carrying, brandishing, etc.

We may have hit a point where a schism starts to show.
The mostly conscientious, responsible gun owners have let the nutters and the crazies be the face of all gun owners.
Up to now it really hasnt hurt their cause much.
This is odd because the nutters and crazies so far were all mass shooters.
Somehow the gun lobby has threaded the needle that ‘they’ arent us.

…..

and if they start to cull out the demonstrably irresponsible and the truly dangerous the rest of us can go about our gun toting lives more or less unharassed.

It’s not just mass shooters; it’s all those who have weapons that children, even toddlers, use to kill or harm their playmates or family members. This has been going on for years and yet there is no accountability. Those who allow this to happen need to suffer real penalties, including prison time.

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Dangerman  Dec 6, 2021 • 8:04:57am

re: #123 Teukka

It was once said…
“With corruption, everyone pays.”
This guy was lucky it was just a reinforced concrete slab destroying his car…

well he can sue
fight it out in court
maybe win in a couple of years
meanwhile how does he get to work tomorrow

128
Teukka  Dec 6, 2021 • 8:29:21am

re: #127 Dangerman

well he can sue
fight it out in court
maybe win in a couple of years
meanwhile how does he get to work tomorrow

That’s in the Russian Federation. Fat chance.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2021 • 8:41:41am

re: #128 Teukka

That’s in the Russian Federation. Fat chance.

“He had two chances: slim and fat”

-Jasper Fforde, The Eyre Affair

130
Punish Domestic Terrorists  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:06:50am

Delusional person says she’s still delusional.

Realtor who took a private jet to the Capitol riot says she plans to practice yoga, detox from alcohol, and lose 30 pounds in prison (BI)

131
darthstar  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:07:16am

re: #115 lawhawk

Don’t stop with school shootings, but it’s a good place to start. Make them a thing of the past.

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darthstar  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:09:10am

re: #130 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Delusional person says she’s still delusional.

Realtor who took a private jet to the Capitol riot says she plans to practice yoga, detox from alcohol, and lose 30 pounds in prison (BI)

She only got 60 days.

133
JC1  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:13:16am

re: #132 darthstar

She only got 60 days.

That would be a 1750 calorie deficit per day. Not impossible, but very unlikely.

134
The Squire of Logos  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:14:15am

re: #132 darthstar

She only got 60 days.

Well, if she wants to stay longer to lose the weight and detox fully, I’m sure the prosecution and judge wouldn’t object.

Uncle Sam’s Federal Lockup and spa. Sheesh.

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The Squire of Logos  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:15:47am

re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“He had two chances: slim and fat”

-Jasper Fforde, The Eyre Affair

Interesting. I’ve always heard that as “You have two chances, slim and none and Slim is out of town for the weekend.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:21:13am

re: #133 JC1

That would be a 1750 calorie deficit per day. Not impossible, but very unlikely.

She won’t have access to quality food, which will be a surprise to her.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:28:47am

re: #69 Barefoot Grin

Its a photoshop.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:38:14am
139
Barefoot Grin  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:43:26am

re: #137 No Malarkey!

Its a photoshop.

Too late to delete it. I got duped. Oh well.

140
A Cranky One  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:44:18am

re: #139 Barefoot Grin

Too late to delete it. I got duped. Oh well.

This will make you feel better…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:44:20am

re: #139 Barefoot Grin

Too late to delete it. I got duped. Oh well.

I nearly did as well, but it just seemed too absurd.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:45:53am

re: #140 A Cranky One

This will make you feel better…

Or Karen Carpenter covering Klaatu

Carpenters - Calling Occupants Of Interplanetary Craft (Full Version)

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nines09  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:49:18am

Creme de la creme

Holy Diver

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:51:32am

re: #143 nines09

Boone’s attempt to mix a Vegas number with a Broadway sound… not sure that kind of things works in most cases.

145
Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:53:58am
146
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:55:24am

re: #144 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Boone’s attempt to mix a Vegas number with a Broadway sound… not sure that kind of things works in most cases.

self-irony is always a welcome thing.

German Volksmusik superstar Heino also did a similar thing with Rammstein

Heino - Amerika (Rammstein Cover) Lyrics

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:56:36am

re: #145 Dread Pirate Ron

Are we about to enter into a new cold war?

One of my latent fears is that we (not just Americans but many people in 2021) have overlooked the fact that many nuclear weapons still exist.

148
ericblair  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:57:55am

I can’t say I’m taking the news real hard, but it might be significant.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:58:37am

About two years ago I had a dream, in which a nuclear weapon went off.

Fortunately my dreams don’t come true.

Most of the time.

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Dangerman  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:59:56am

re: #140 A Cranky One

This will make you feel better…

Watch this video of Donny & Marie
covering Steely Dan, then tell me life isn’t precious and wonderful.

nope nope nope

151
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:00:07am

re: #147 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Are we about to enter into a new cold war?

One of my latent fears is that we (not just Americans but many people in 2021) have overlooked the fact that many nuclear weapons still exist.

I do not think that the terminology is valid. Putin has plans to restore the Russian Empire, not to export an ideology worldwide as was the case with the USSR.

He is just enjoying the sight of us squabbling and bickering on how to react to him while he quietly pursues his agenda and leaves behind a trail of irreversible faits accompli like the annexation of the Crimea.

152
Eventual Carrion  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:00:44am

re: #147 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Are we about to enter into a new cold war?

One of my latent fears is that we (not just Americans but many people in 2021) have overlooked the fact that many nuclear weapons still exist.

We hadn’t used them all on hurricanes yet?

153
ericblair  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:02:19am

re: #147 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Are we about to enter into a new cold war?

One of my latent fears is that we (not just Americans but many people in 2021) have overlooked the fact that many nuclear weapons still exist.

This is basically the only subject the Russian government takes seriously with the US. Everything else they do in diplomacy is bluster and bullshit, but when it comes to arms control it’s textbook rational negotiation. If there was to be a nuclear exchange, I still think the most likely would be India and Pakistan.

154
Dangerman  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:04:10am

re: #149 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

About two years ago I had a dream, in which a nuclear weapon went off.

Fortunately my dreams don’t come true.

Most of the time.

I’m reading State of Terror (hillary clinton and louise Penny)

guy makes nukes and sells them to terrorists who apparently plant them in 3 US cities.

it’s a pretty good read if you suspend disbelief…

155
nines09  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:08:07am

re: #144 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Boone attempting to revive a cratered career by being a putz.

156
Dangerman  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:08:21am

re: #152 Eventual Carrion

We hadn’t used them all on hurricanes yet?

we’d have made more //

President Donald Trump said he wanted what amounted to a nearly tenfold increase in the U.S. nuclear arsenal during a gathering this past summer of the nation’s highest-ranking national security leaders, according to three officials who were in the room.

that’s when his SOS, Rex tillerson called him a fucking moron

157
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:08:46am

If you took a time machine back to 1921 and asked an American what life would be like in 2021 you’d get some wild guesses, for sure.

Some may think that a Metropolis like future was a sure thing.

But, no one would have guessed:
1) nuclear weapons;
2) Bitcoin;
3) Donny and Marie Osmond being nostalgia figures.

Point being: the future is hard to predict.

158
jaunte  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:11:30am
159
lawhawk  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:16:49am
160
jaunte  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:20:12am
161
retired cynic  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:23:16am

re: #158 jaunte

Herblock was the best. We need another, just like him. And Molly Ivins, too.

162
Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:30:00am

re: #157 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

If you took a time machine back to 1921 and asked an American what life would be like in 2021 you’d get some wild guesses, for sure.

Some may think that a Metropolis like future was a sure thing.

But, no one would have guessed:
1) nuclear weapons;
2) Bitcoin;
3) Donny and Marie Osmond being nostalgia figures.

Point being: the future is hard to predict.

On a related note, imagine going back to 1961 and telling the first person you meet that in 2021:

1. Russia is preparing a military attack
2. Gays and Lesbians are fighting for their rights each and every day.
3. Christian conservatives are trying to keep women barefoot and pregnant.
4. They’re also trying to ban books and music they don’t like.
5. Chrysler, Ford and GM still make gasoline vehicles (i.e. no flying cars).
6. Jewish people are constantly being discriminated against.
7. Southern leaders are trying to make sure blacks can’t vote.

163
Dangerman  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:30:51am

re: #160 jaunte

[Embedded content]

And he admits he lost

164
Dangerman  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:35:53am
165
stpaulbear  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:36:04am

re: #100 Belafon

Too close:

[Embedded content]

Well that’s one way to deal with an annoying subwoofer in a car parked in front of your house. There’s been nights I would have used it.

166
Dr Lizardo  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:38:10am

Here it is….

The Matrix Resurrections | Official Trailer 2 | HBO Max

167
Dangerman  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:38:25am
168
Punish Domestic Terrorists  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:44:22am

re: #159 lawhawk

169
Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:45:29am

Thursday is Donny Osmond’s birthday. He’ll be 64.

I didn’t know about this but I’ll have to hunt it up now.

Osmond is mentioned in the lyrics of Alice Cooper’s song “Department of Youth” on the album Welcome to My Nightmare. As the song fades, Cooper can be heard asking the youth choir backing him up, “Who’s got the power?” to which a crowd of young people screams “We do!” After a couple of repetitions, this changes to “We’ve got the power” with a cheering response. On the final repetition, Cooper changes the question to “…and who gave it to you?” The crowd answers, “Donny Osmond!” Cooper then responds “What?!”

170
Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:47:51am

re: #167 Dangerman

Trump blaming Biden for the actions of his OWN idiot followers. Fucking asshole.

171
darthstar  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:48:22am

DOJ suing Texas for voting rights violations…again. That’s a feature in that state, not a bug.

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:49:15am
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jaunte  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:50:03am
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jaunte  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:52:11am
175
Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:55:34am

re: #174 jaunte

SCOTUS basically triggered this by killing VRA, right?

176
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:56:46am

re: #166 Dr Lizardo

Here it is….

I finally got around to watching The Matrix with my kids last year just to be aware of all the cultural/meme references.

Still haven’t watched Die Hard or most any of those other major blockbuster movies.

177
Dopamine Fish  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:56:51am

re: #175 Eclectic Cyborg

SCOTUS basically triggered this by killing VRA, right?

Precisely so. Once states were essentially freed from federal oversight into their redistricting, the Republicans have been gerrymandering to a further and further extreme, desperately trying to hold on to their power for as long as possible.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:57:04am
A federal appeals court last week declined China Telecom’s emergency bid to halt a U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) order withdrawing its capability to provide telecommunications services in the United States.

According to a Reuters report, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District Columbia rejected the bid previously filed by the local branch of China Telecom to temporarily block the FCC order, which takes effect in early January.

Following this legal decision, China Telecom said that without a temporary halt to the FCC action, it “will be forced to cease significant operations, irreparably harming its business, reputation, and relationships.”

In October, the FCC issued an order which effectively ended China Telecom Americas’ ability to provide domestic interstate and international telecommunications services within the U.S. China Telecom immediately launched a legal appeal against the ban.

“Promoting national security is an integral part of the Commission’s responsibility to advance the public interest, and today’s action carries out that mission to safeguard the nation’s telecommunications infrastructure from potential security threats,” FCC said.

The FCC said that China Telecom Americas, a U.S. subsidiary of a Chinese state-owned enterprise, is subject to “exploitation, influence, and control” by the Chinese government and is highly likely to be forced to comply with Chinese government requests without sufficient legal procedures subject to independent judicial oversight.

rcrwireless.com

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nines09  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:57:27am

re: #175 Eclectic Cyborg

There is no longer any racism and voters need no protection so yes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:57:59am

re: #170 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump blaming Biden for the actions of his OWN idiot followers. Fucking asshole.

Shrewd, manipulative asshole.

181
jaunte  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:59:46am

re: #177 Dopamine Fish

I wonder if they’ll ever decide to have popular policies instead.

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2021 • 11:00:20am
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 6, 2021 • 11:03:56am

re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I finally got around to watching The Matrix with my kids last year just to be aware of all the cultural/meme references.

Still haven’t watched Die Hard or most any of those other major blockbuster movies.

IMHO The Thirteenth Floor, which had a related theme, was a far better movie than The Matrix.


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