Seth Meyers: Trump’s Secret Positive COVID Test; GOP’s Omicron Conspiracy Theories

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Seth takes a closer look at Trump secretly testing positive for COVID before coming into contact with more than 500 people, including President Biden at their first debate, while Republicans and Fox News suggest the new coronavirus variant is a liberal hoax.

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mmmirele  Dec 6, 2021 • 8:26:50pm

Natania Barron is a writer, and does other things. Every week or two, she does a series of tweets called “Thread Talk” and it’s about fashion and culture. Today’s thread is about Christmas, how it wasn’t originally the huge celebration it was, how it became that celebration, and how people dressed.

And she meticulously documents the museums/auction houses/etc. where she gets the pictures of fabulous dresses and other items from. Anyway, I do love her Thread Talks, so am sharing with everyone.

On a personal note, my mother used to complain when I was a girl that up until Christmas it was Advent, NOT Christmas, and it wasn’t properly Christmas until Christmas Day, and the celebration kept going until Epiphany on January 6 (which also happens to be her birthday). She really had a thing about Christmas going for those 12 days, which may have been to spice up Christmas leftovers, but hey…

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ckkatz  Dec 6, 2021 • 8:31:54pm

From last thread:

re: #151 Patricia Kayden

That reminds me of when I had to crawl to get to my car during a particularly harsh winter in Takoma Park, Maryland. The nice waiter at IHOP came out and helped me to my car but it was scary. 😂

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ckkatz  Dec 6, 2021 • 8:47:38pm

re: #1 mmmirele

You bring up a fascinating question on how Christmas was observed before our generation. Unfortunately, I cannot add much to the conversation beyond some Boomer interpreted historic songs like this one:

1970’s English folk rock:

Gower Wassail

en.wikipedia.org

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2021 • 8:51:02pm
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Belafon  Dec 6, 2021 • 8:52:21pm

The first few of a thread:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Dec 6, 2021 • 8:54:56pm

re: #4 Belafon

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ckkatz  Dec 6, 2021 • 8:55:21pm

re: #4 Belafon

Hmm…

Maybe?

en.wikipedia.org

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2021 • 8:55:58pm

re: #7 ckkatz

Hmm…

Maybe?

en.wikipedia.org

I’m sure a lot of us are hoping for something like that.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2021 • 8:57:26pm

A company makes a virtual reality simulator to help companies practice diversity situations, and uses white people to voice miimnority characters.

m.dailykos.com

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:00:33pm

re: #7 ckkatz

Hmm…

Maybe?

en.wikipedia.org

re: #8 Belafon

I’m sure a lot of us are hoping for something like that.

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mmmirele  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:03:40pm

re: #8 Belafon

I’m sure a lot of us are hoping for something like that.

I’m thinking it’s a piece of space junk, myself.

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ckkatz  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:07:48pm

re: #10 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

I don’t see the flying saucers with BalkenKreuz…

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Teukka  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:10:33pm

Ummm…. WAT…

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ckkatz  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:16:06pm

If anybody has contact with Joe Bacon, I think that he might be interested in this article:

Pennsylvania on Friday announced that it has awarded a $6.6 million grant for the rebuilding of the Tree of Life synagogue in Squirrel Hill.

The funding will help transform the site of the deadliest antisemitic attack in American history into a place of hope, remembrance and education, state officials said.

…snip…

Tree of Life has said its plans for the rebuild include restoring and modernizing the synagogue’s large sanctuary. The sanctuary was not being used on the morning of the attack. There are also plans to demolish and replace other parts of the structure, including the chapel and other areas where the killings took place.

Pennsylvania awards Tree of Life synagogue $6.6 million grant for rebuilding project
post-gazette.com

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mmmirele  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:16:31pm

re: #13 Teukka

Ummm…. WAT…

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All I can think is that Steve Shultz must be racking it (you know, filthy lucre) in by letting these nutters spout on his dime. I can’t see any other reason why anyone would do this.

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KGxvi  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:18:05pm

re: #4 Belafon

Turn around, walk away. Have we not read/watched any science fiction in the last 50 years?

This is the alien version of “we’ve discovered a new burial chamber and are opening it up without translating the inscriptions”

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KGxvi  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:20:28pm

Is there any new info on omicron? Are we still being hopeful that picking up rna from a cold virus is going to make it much less deadly and more like a common cold rather than *waves hands at last two years*

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ckkatz  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:21:16pm

re: #15 mmmirele

All I can think is that Steve Shultz must be racking it (you know, filthy lucre) in by letting these nutters spout on his dime. I can’t see any other reason why anyone would do this.

I just do not understand where all this money is coming from? Clearly it is in fact there.

But there cannot be that many grandmas donating their SocSec checks and lost souls who work marginal hourly jobs giving their kids’ food money to these ghouls.

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A Cranky One  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:23:16pm

re: #16 KGxvi

They’ll approach it and be greeted over the radio with the phrase “we’ve been trying to reach you about your rovers warranty “.

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KGxvi  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:24:03pm

re: #18 ckkatz

I just do not understand where all this money come from? Clearly it is in fact there.

But there cannot be that many grandmas donating their SocSec checks and lost souls who work marginal hourly jobs giving their kids’ food money to these ghouls.

340 million people in the US… if even 1 million have a $5 monthly subscription that’s $60m a year. It is, and always will be, all about getting the grift to work at scale

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KGxvi  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:26:29pm

re: #19 A Cranky One

This does kind of remind me of the Giants series by James P Hogan. Starts off with NASA finding a thousands of years old skeleton in a space suit on the moo

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:33:08pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:38:23pm

re: #4 Belafon

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Yeah, I’ve seen this film already…

Moontrap (1989) Theatrical Trailer

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mmmirele  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:40:50pm

re: #18 ckkatz

I just do not understand where all this money is coming from? Clearly it is in fact there.

But there cannot be that many grandmas donating their SocSec checks and lost souls who work marginal hourly jobs giving their kids’ food money to these ghouls.

It’s not just donations, he sells space on his front page to all sorts of hucksters. Apparently you can also pay to get your prophecy featured and then YOU can get the largesse. Finally, there’s this at the very bottom right hand corner of the front page (behind the link because it’s barftastic).

jJwQvnIxuHQGZU9g16oXpkyTJ8KEzDBsEJqANY8wExLlNNzDICr3LLt3jidrbOGuSqPEYm7rCu61Zvy17xcduj8S5agZ4G6VaOeddK+crfUClmCvBLHu6611nXWad4zHBKx6fuuwqhuo4Tr84UsWFqNAGcJXXHxKu8plKlAcrRWD2+i0UZYEXmQMs2aAqy2YvOQArT9BuQZreBurtmoTcWvvsBc+ftgT8S385SJqISDC9TKv+ooiPXFNAo8XPctVyh17Ax0wV79nj5+jjGoyoXipPYcQHr4xzINh8MHEUuzqr/EZ/ab5uZ9Z4mXfVLXqaBG4CCv5l7AxAOqxsL75lKROrgb+kIfNzpLl1nB3N0fXDyHDbvU5gK5XysU2tknV

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:46:31pm

Where are the “Pro-Life?”

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:52:10pm

re: #5 Belafon

Thank you for posting that. It is a journey, that’s for sure. Sadly, for many of us, it’s also a death sentence.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 6, 2021 • 9:53:45pm
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ckkatz  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:07:39pm

re: #27 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I keep thinking ‘Mordor!’ while watching that.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:14:55pm
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A Cranky One  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:22:08pm

Been really sad all day. It’s the third anniversary of my mom’s passing.

She was an amazing loving person. When she was first hospitalized, one of her big concerns was the 3rd world kids she was helping with monthly donations.
She would help anyone in need.

After my dad died, she struggled with giving away any of his things. Mrs Cranky finally convinced her to give us his ties.

Mrs Cranky used them to make a memory quilt. You can see my mom’s reaction when she opened the present.

Mom said it was her most precious possession. She also confessed to being very angry at herself because she held back a handful of his favorite ties.

I really miss her.

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ckkatz  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:22:30pm

re: #29 Dave In Austin
I’m thinking that the EggMaster is a ‘Nope’.

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A Cranky One  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:28:54pm

re: #30 A Cranky One

One quick mom anecdote.

First time my mom met Mrs Cranky, I asked the (to be) Mrs Cranky to get me a beverage. She replied “what, are your legs broken?”

My mom said “you need to marry that woman”. Heh. And I did.

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mmmirele  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:29:05pm

re: #25 DodgerFan1988

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Where are the “Pro-Life?”

This is stepping on my last fucking nerve.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:34:14pm

Because there are so many kids trying out, all region tryouts were split into two parts, the first, on Saturday, removed 2/3 of the kids, and the second, today, after school, was to do band and chair placement. My son did really well on the fist day, placing in the top 15%. Today, though, he didn’t do very well, and is one of the alternates.

I can only tell him I’m proud of him so many times. There were a number of things going on. This was his first time to go that far. We had kept him home last year, and, while he did virtual band, I think he lost some ground. He’s also an introvert, and I think he needed someone to talk to him to calm him down and pep him up after the first part of.tonights tryout. And it was after school, and we had to drive 20 miles in a rush to get to the school where the tryout was.

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William Lewis  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:37:14pm

re: #33 mmmirele

This is stepping on my last fucking nerve.

That kind of bullying that results in suicide needs to be considered intentional homicide.

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ckkatz  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:38:16pm

re: #34 Belafon

Congratulations to your son! I have no doubt that he will persevere and conquer.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:43:36pm

re: #25 DodgerFan1988

Where are the “Pro-Life?”

No love quite like Christian hate.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:44:17pm

re: #31 ckkatz

Had me laughing like a 14 yr old……

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ckkatz  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:44:53pm

re: #30 A Cranky One

I am so sorry to hear of the loss of your Mom. No matter how long ago, losing our parents affects us to our core. But it sounds like you are bearing witness and testimony on all the good she brought.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:45:46pm

re: #19 A Cranky One

They’ll approach it and be greeted over the radio with the phrase “we’ve been trying to reach you about your rovers warranty “.

Perhaps that’s why Vice-President Harris is avoiding Bluetooth headphones. /s

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:46:31pm

re: #30 A Cranky One

That is a beautiful quilt.

[[[ACO]]]

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:46:42pm

re: #35 William Lewis

That kind of bullying that results in suicide needs to be considered intentional homicide.

This is so sad. The bullies usually are children themselves; it is ultimately the adults who teach them this hatred of those who are different. This cruelty has always been around but I have to believe that Trump served as a role model that encouraged this behavior.

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A Cranky One  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:47:10pm

re: #34 Belafon

I’d just suggest that the first tryout was a good reflection on his abilities. There was more pressure for the second, which probably affected his performance. Happens to everyone.

So of course there is disappointment. But he put himself out there, and being willing to take risks is a sign of maturity.

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ckkatz  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:52:51pm

re: #35 William Lewis

That kind of bullying that results in suicide needs to be considered intentional homicide.

Yes, my first thoughts were:
1. Why was a poor defenseless child thrown into that situation?
2. Where were the adults who were supposed to be responsible for the school and what went on in it? At the very minimum, they should have recognized that the situation was out of their control.

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A Cranky One  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:53:04pm

re: #41 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That is a beautiful quilt.

[[[ACO]]]

Thanks. We have it on the guest bed, so I see it everyday. Seeing it today was harder.

Better pics of the quilt;

littlegreenfootballs.com

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ckkatz  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:55:53pm

Mid-1990’s Greek pop song ‘Eleni’ by Anna Vissi. It’s about a young fan, Eleni (Helen) Konkanta, who died of a medical condition. Anna kept in touch with Eleni until Eleni’s passing.

Anna Vissi - Eleni

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:58:36pm

re: #31 ckkatz

I’m thinking that the EggMaster is a ‘Nope’.

I’m thinking gift for one of my family members.

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ckkatz  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:59:14pm

G’nite all time to head to bed.

And of course, the requisite ‘Dad’ joke:

Why can’t drummers come back from retirement?
Because there will be repercussions.

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wrenchwench  Dec 6, 2021 • 10:59:43pm

re: #45 A Cranky One

Thanks. We have it on the guest bed, so I see it everyday. Seeing it today was harder.

Better pics of the quilt;

littlegreenfootballs.com

*snif* you got a CuriousLurker upding on there…

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A Cranky One  Dec 6, 2021 • 11:05:04pm

re: #49 wrenchwench

*snif* you got a CuriousLurker upding on there…

I really miss CL. I don’t do any social media and only comment on this blog. She motivated me to join by being a person I wanted to know.

I was also one of the folks who teased her about posting long comments after a thread ended (hence being CL’d).

So everytime I see that expression, I miss her.

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sagehen  Dec 6, 2021 • 11:07:14pm

I understand how frustrated everyone is that the 1/6 top-dog bad guys aren’t already sitting at the defense table. But c’mon.

Garland was sworn in 9 months ago. And it took another couple months after that to get all his appropriate deputies into place. Since then, 700 low-level defendants and several groups of conspirator-defendants have been indicted. One builds cases from the bottom up. And it’s a GOOD THING they’re not sprinkling all the details out into the media; they’ve had some grand juries that have kept quiet until they were ready to indict. Who knows how many more grand juries are currently empaneled; this admin isn’t nearly as leaky as the last one.

The Congressional committee has been in effect for less than 6 months. They’ve deposed 250 witnesses, gathered stacks and stacks of documents, and announced they’ll be doing televised hearings starting early in 2022. This will all play out on TV while the midterm campaigning is going on.

It took 2 years from the Watergate burglary until there was enough evidence to force the Capo di Tutti Capi to give up. 2 full years.

I’m relatively able to control my impatience. Now let’s talk about this voting rights case DOJ is bringing in Texas.

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2021 • 11:07:20pm

The plan, however, would have Democrats cast a vote to raise the debt ceiling. It’s something Republicans did three times under former President Donald Trump, adding over $7.8 trillion to the deficit. McConnell assumes that the vote would be toxic for Democrats, but the reality is that shutting down the government would be toxic for Republicans.

To accomplish his goal, Raju writes that Republicans will need to cooperate under the Senate rules, and break the filibuster. That would mean McConnell would have to find ten Republicans that would agree to allow the debt ceiling bill to come up and then vote against raising it.

So Yertle thinks he’ll get political mileage out of avoiding a default by forcing Dems to vote for it? Oh please, PLEASE don’t throw me in that thar briar patch…

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ericblair  Dec 6, 2021 • 11:11:04pm

re: #16 KGxvi

Turn around, walk away. Have we not read/watched any science fiction in the last 50 years?

This is the alien version of “we’ve discovered a new burial chamber and are opening it up without translating the inscriptions”

Nah. There’s some guy in Ohio waiting for his FedEx package, and we’ve got good news and bad news.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2021 • 11:16:43pm

re: #52 Targetpractice

So Yertle thinks he’ll get political mileage out of avoiding a default by forcing Dems to vote for it? Oh please, PLEASE don’t throw me in that thar briar patch…

I seriously doubt he gets ten Republicans. They have been trained to be incapable of cooperating on anything.

Plus, one sign of weakness out of Mitch McConnell and he’ll find a metaphorical shiv between his ribs by an even bigger wingnut.

I have no doubt that someone like Sen. Hawley or Sen. Cruz would love to have McConnell’s spot.

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wrenchwench  Dec 6, 2021 • 11:17:38pm

re: #51 sagehen

[…]

It took 2 years from the Watergate burglary until there was enough evidence to force the Capo di Tutti Capi to give up. 2 full years.

[…]

The Right and the Power, Leon Jaworski

A great read about those 2 years.

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sagehen  Dec 6, 2021 • 11:19:47pm

re: #54 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I seriously doubt he gets ten Republicans. They have been trained to be incapable of cooperating on anything.

They’ve also been trained to vote however Mitch tells them, whenever he tells them.

If this is something he seriously wants to happen, it’ll happen.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 6, 2021 • 11:38:32pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2021 • 11:39:32pm

re: #56 sagehen

They’ve also been trained to vote however Mitch tells them, whenever he tells them.

If this is something he seriously wants to happen, it’ll happen.

He’ll pull together votes from anybody who A) is retiring after next year or B) isn’t up for reelection next year and then make up any missing votes by offering up all sorts of promises of what he’ll do for them after the midterms when he’s back in charge.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 6, 2021 • 11:45:42pm

re: #58 Targetpractice

He’ll pull together votes from anybody who A) is retiring after next year or B) isn’t up for reelection next year and then make up any missing votes by offering up all sorts of promises of what he’ll do for them after the midterms when he’s back in charge.

Anyone other than the 8 Senators who voted to decertify Biden, those who celebrated July 4th in Moscow, and Rand Paul might be willing to collaborate with McConnell. But who knows with this party these days?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2021 • 11:52:42pm

We’re climbing to the top again!

Nebraska ranks 13th in new COVID cases; hospitalizations are highest in almost a year (Omaha World-Herald, one hour ago)

Nebraska continued to rank among the nation’s hot spots for COVID-19 last week, with cases and hospitalizations both rising again.

Meanwhile, a new pandemic player — the omicron variant of the coronavirus that causes COVID-19 — appeared on the scene.

Six cases involving the variant were identified late last week in southeast Nebraska, in a resident who had returned from Nigeria and in five members of the person’s household.

COVID-19 cases caused by omicron had been reported in at least 17 states by Monday. But the delta variant remains responsible for more than 99% of cases in the United States.

(more)

That’s on the opposite side of the state from me … SE Nebraska is nearly four hundred miles from here. With a 75mph speed limit on I-80 it could be here by morning.

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A Cranky One  Dec 7, 2021 • 12:09:05am

Mrs Cranky has been going stir crazy. She went to a restaurant with a close friend ( not happy about that, but I understand and she went to a place with good distance between customers and demonstrated safety protocols).

But OMG. Here is her order (specialty for this place, cocktails and cupcakes):

Cider on tap.

Just the pictures raised my blood sugar.

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sagehen  Dec 7, 2021 • 12:31:14am

re: #61 A Cranky One

Mrs Cranky has been going stir crazy. She went to a restaurant with a close friend ( not happy about that, but I understand and she went to a place with good distance between customers and demonstrated safety protocols).

But OMG. Here is her order (specialty for this place, cocktails and cupcakes):

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Just the pictures raised my blood sugar.

um…. you call this a restaurant? It looks to me like a bar. With snacks.

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Captain Magic  Dec 7, 2021 • 12:50:05am

From my backyard: TCAPS receives four threats in last week
upnorthlive.com

Disgusting.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 7, 2021 • 1:03:37am

re: #63 Eric The Fruit Bat

From my backyard: TCAPS receives four threats in last week
upnorthlive.com

Disgusting.

I note that in the body of the article the school says they’re not aware of one specific person both bullying and making a threat to the school, but they will investigate.

At this point regarding bullying in schools, it seems like school self-investigations are like police self-investigations regarding alleged brutality.

“We investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.”

I’m on-board with independent investigations of school bullying as well.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 1:09:14am

re: #1 mmmirele

On a personal note, my mother used to complain when I was a girl that up until Christmas it was Advent, NOT Christmas, and it wasn’t properly Christmas until Christmas Day, and the celebration kept going until Epiphany on January 6 (which also happens to be her birthday). She really had a thing about Christmas going for those 12 days, which may have been to spice up Christmas leftovers, but hey…

Advent is a big thing in Germany: the four Sundays before Christmas. Kids get an Advent calendar with a sweet treat for each day of the month and it is (a relatively modern) tradition to light an advent crown with four candles, lighting one candle on First Advent, etc., sorta like Hanukkah.

And Christmas Eve is the high point of the celebration, the other days are just follow up.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 1:13:43am

re: #25 DodgerFan1988

Where are the “Pro-Life?”

“Hate the sin, love the sinner. But if they snuff themselves over their sins, that’s just too bad!”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 7, 2021 • 1:23:33am

Pastor of First Baptist Church in Dallas:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 1:25:07am

re: #67 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Pastor of First Baptist Church in Dallas:

“The Biden Administration is the ungodliest administration in the history of our country—I don’t care how many rosary beads they rub.”

Neither of the Two Corinthians could be reached for comment.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 7, 2021 • 1:30:28am

re: #67 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That thread is full of commentators showing their Christian love. By which I mean hate. Lots of Catholic bashing. Lots of Bible quoting.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 1:32:05am

re: #69 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That thread is full of commentators showing their Christian love. By which I mean hate. Lots of Catholic bashing. Lots of Bible quoting.

When they say “America is a Christian Nation!” they mean a Fundamentalist Protestant Christian Nation

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 7, 2021 • 1:34:07am

re: #70 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

When they say “America is a Christian Nation!” they mean a Fundamentalist Protestant Christian Nation

They also mean to marginalise (at best) anyone who they disagree with, or kill outright (at worst).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 1:36:26am

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

They also mean to marginalise (at best) anyone who they disagree with, or kill outright (at worst).

they have a very narrow view of what sort of people “deserve” basic human needs like food, shelter or medical care…

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wrenchwench  Dec 7, 2021 • 1:38:41am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 7, 2021 • 1:41:49am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 7, 2021 • 1:46:47am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 7, 2021 • 2:08:12am

Keep it classy, UK Conservative Party. You’re making the news in Scottsbluff, Nebr. again.

LONDON (AP) — British parliamentary authorities are calling in the police after a newspaper reported that traces of cocaine had been found at numerous sites in Parliament.

House of Commons Speaker Lindsay Hoyle said he was contacting police after the Sunday Times reported that illegal drugs were being used inside Parliament buildings.

The newspaper said tests using drug detection wipes found traces of cocaine in 11 locations that are only accessible by accredited parliamentary lawmakers, staff and journalists, including a washroom near Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s parliamentary office.

“The accounts of drug misuse in Parliament given to the Sunday Times are deeply concerning — and I will be raising them as a priority with the Metropolitan Police this week,” Hoyle said in a statement. “I expect to see full and effective enforcement of the law.”

(more)

UK police contacted over report of cocaine use in Parliament (NBC Scottsbluff)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 7, 2021 • 2:13:22am

Brr.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Dec 7, 2021 • 2:15:02am

T-minus 4 minute hold, polling completed, hold to be released momentarily

Dec. 7 Live Broadcast: Atlas V STP-3

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 2:15:11am

re: #76 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

British parliamentary authorities are calling in the police after a newspaper reported that traces of cocaine had been found at numerous sites in Parliament.

and right on time in typical Boris Johnson old-school-tie hypocrisy:

Users of class A drugs in UK face losing passports, say reports of proposals

Boris Johnson expected to launch 10-year plan this week to tackle drug-related crime

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Targetpractice  Dec 7, 2021 • 2:16:26am

re: #75 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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As I like to note to my friends, most of what we associate with a “traditional” Christmas in the West really came about as a result of a single novel: A Christmas Carol. Before it was published, Christmas was largely becoming a rural holiday as the increasing industrialization and urbanization of major nations left people feeling that the holiday could not be properly celebrated in what was largely a dreary and bleak existence for many in the growing cities.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 7, 2021 • 2:20:34am

re: #80 Targetpractice

As I like to note to my friends, most of what we associate with a “traditional” Christmas in the West really came about as a result of a single novel: A Christmas Carol. Before it was published, Christmas was largely becoming a rural holiday as the increasing industrialization and urbanization of major nations left people feeling that the holiday could not be properly celebrated in what was largely a dreary and bleak existence for many in the growing cities.

Plus in the early United States it was viewed as largely both a British holiday and a pagan one. Christians throughout the new country suppressed celebrations of Christmas as both pagan and unpatriotic.

Christmas was not made a federal holiday in the USA until June 26, 1870.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 7, 2021 • 2:21:52am

Logic: Non-religion is a religion. Also, you can’t say what you think if it offends me.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Dec 7, 2021 • 2:26:31am

re: #23 Targetpractice

Yeah, I’ve seen this film already…

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Video

I preferred this take on space vampires

LIFEFORCE Trailer (1985) Retro Horror Sci Fi

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Dec 7, 2021 • 2:27:43am

re: #83 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Sir Patrick Stewart providing the Star Trek connection

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 2:28:51am

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

…Christmas was largely becoming a rural holiday as the increasing industrialization and urbanization of major nations left people feeling that the holiday could not be properly celebrated in what was largely a dreary and bleak existence for many in the growing cities.

Midwinter was a time when there was little to do in rural areas but hunker down by the fire and celebrate.

In urban and industrial areas, there was work, work, work year-round.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 7, 2021 • 2:35:24am

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Midwinter was a time when there was little to do in rural areas but hunker down by the fire and celebrate. smoking peat and starve.

In urban and industrial areas, there was work, work, work year-round.

Hibernicized that fer ya.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 7, 2021 • 2:41:48am

(a) You’re not a Catholic; and even if you were, the Sacrament of the Confession should not be used to cover up crimes in a nation ruled by law.

Josh Duggar says a family friend can’t testify about his alleged child molestation admissions because of ‘priest-penitent privilege’ (Yahoo!)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 7, 2021 • 2:43:12am

re: #86 Decatur Deb

Hibernicized that fer ya.

We burn corn cobs here, at least the ones cattle don’t eat. Not a lot of peat.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 2:43:53am

re: #82 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Logic: Non-religion is a religion. Also, you can’t say what you think if it offends me.

There is a salon article about the overlap between the “new atheist” and right-wing grift.

But there is one point of atheism that a lot of people cannot get their heads around: it is not only not a religion, it is not organized in any sense, which makes it very different from any established church or sect.

It has no scriptures or doctrine or prophets or ministers. Just individual atheists who - for what ever reason - do not believe in God.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 2:44:37am

re: #88 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We burn corn cobs here, at least the ones cattle don’t eat. Not a lot of peat.

I thought you burned cow chips…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 7, 2021 • 2:48:30am

re: #90 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I thought you burned cow chips…

Those too.

Maybe I should put in a question to the HVAC installers of our new furnace if there is a cow chip/corn cob hopper I can load to save money on natural gas. /s

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 2:51:36am

Used to work as a beekeeper as a student sideline job in the desert outside of Tucson.

They put me in charge of the smoker, which meant gathering cow chips and igniting them with burlap to blow smoke on the hives to calm them down.

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EPR-radar  Dec 7, 2021 • 2:52:27am

re: #92 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Used to work as a beekeeper as a student sideline job in the desert outside of Tucson.

They put me in charge of the smoker, which meant gathering cow chips and igniting them with burlap to blow smoke on the hives to calm them down.

That sounds fragrant.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 7, 2021 • 2:58:10am

The so-called liberal Pope:

Pope Francis has compared the EU to a dictatorship in its attempt to impose ‘woke’ rules on language.

The pope, 84, said the bloc risked falling apart if it became a vehicle for “ideological colonisation” as he left Greece following a four-day trip.

(more)

Pope compares EU to dictatorship for attempts to ban Christmas (The Telegraph, December 6, 2021)

Pope warns the EU not to take the ‘path of ideological colonisation’

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Targetpractice  Dec 7, 2021 • 2:58:29am

Well, after several days of racking my brain, I finally figured out my sister’s Christmas gift this year. At this rate, I might figure out gifts for my folks sometime before the heat death of the universe.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 2:59:52am

re: #93 EPR-radar

That sounds fragrant.

It was ugly work but well paid.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 3:01:30am

re: #94 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The so-called liberal Pope:

(more)

Pope compares EU to dictatorship for attempts to ban Christmas (The Telegraph, December 6, 2021)

Pope warns the EU not to take the ‘path of ideological colonisation’

paywalled.

Europe used to be relatively free of the War on Christmas hype.

But it has spread to here as well…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 7, 2021 • 3:03:46am

I’m going to head off to bed.

Tonight I worked on some Advent and Christmas songs on the hammered dulicmer. I got about twenty minutes of playing in before my hands really started burning in pain.

I’ll leave this here on the way out: O Come O Come Emanuel (2:35, on the Dusty Strings model I asked my wife to buy)

O Come, O Come, Emmanuel on hammered dulcimer by Timothy Seaman

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 7, 2021 • 3:29:03am

re: #2 ckkatz

Thanks!! Good investment if you live in a state prone to snowstorms.

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 7, 2021 • 4:00:12am

Morning Lizardim from the bitterly cold and snowy wild north country. Today, we are coming out of a day of single-digit temperatures, with yesterday’s high actually being early in the morning, at 8 °F (-13.3 C), and this morning’s walk was conducted in a light breeze at 2 °F (-16.7 C) standing air temperature, with a wind chill of -8 °F (-22.2 C). How go things among the lizardfolk on this brutal winter day?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 7, 2021 • 4:05:20am

re: #76 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It appears there is now a UK version of the “War on Drugs” thing going on. So I expect a lot of stories about various chemical addictions to pop up in the British news outlets.

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 7, 2021 • 4:07:07am

This isn’t good.

A total of 68 doctors and nurses who work at a Spanish hospital have tested positive for COVID-19 since attending a massive Christmas party last week, officials said Monday.

The infected medics work in the intensive care unit at University Regional Hospital in Malaga. They were all present at the Dec. 1 celebration that had 173 attendees, according to the Andalusian regional government.

The source of the outbreak was still under investigation and authorities said a large meal for hospital staff could also be to blame.

The cases are all considered mild.

All the staffers who tested positive had either received their third booster vaccines or antigen tests before the party.

nypost.com

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 7, 2021 • 4:17:03am

re: #102 Shropshire Slasher

This isn’t good.

nypost.com

A reminder: No vaccine is 100% effective. Even boosted, it’s still important to take all the best mitigation steps you can, to avoid outcomes like this.

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 7, 2021 • 4:24:08am

re: #103 Dopamine Fish

A reminder: No vaccine is 100% effective. Even boosted, it’s still important to take all the best mitigation steps you can, to avoid outcomes like this.

But 40% of the attendees get Covid?

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William Lewis  Dec 7, 2021 • 4:26:41am

re: #104 Shropshire Slasher

But 40% of the attendees get Covid?

What variant, to what degree, etc? There isn’t enough information in this article to say much of anything. In addition it’s the Post, the Faux of print.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 7, 2021 • 4:36:57am

This alone should disqualify him from running again.

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 7, 2021 • 4:39:25am

re: #105 William Lewis

What variant, to what degree, etc? There isn’t enough information in this article to say much of anything. In addition it’s the Post, the Faux of print.

reuters.com

news.yahoo.com

bbc.com

cnn.com

abcnews.go.com

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 7, 2021 • 4:41:16am

This time of year one of the more popular Christmas songs is What Child Is This, which of course is a Christianization of Greensleeves.

The original composer of the music is lost to time, but there was a ballad written to it long ago.

An analysis of a particular recording:

Peter Hollens and Tim Foust “Greensleeves” REACTION & ANALYSIS by Vocal Coach / Opera Singer

..

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 7, 2021 • 4:46:17am

Vaccination is intended to give one an immediate response to the presence of a virus, instead of letting the virus replicate before your immune system fully responds.

Thus being vaccinated is not a goal of never catching a virus. A virus particle will enter your nasal passages regardless of whether you’re vaccinated or not.

Local data (San Diego County) suggests that the vaccinated are thirty-ish times less likely to die or be hospitalized than the unvaccinated.

Those Spanish medical personnel all report mild symptoms. Now, it will be interesting going forward to see how many mild cases of Covid-19 occur each season.

It is my suspicion, based on what virologists seem to be saying, is that we’re going to have treat ourselves with regular (annually, or biennially) coronavirus vaccinations, as we do for the flu.

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William Lewis  Dec 7, 2021 • 4:48:05am

re: #107 Shropshire Slasher

From that BBC link, the most important line:
“The infected staff were all fully vaccinated and are showing no symptoms, health authorities said.” (bolding by me). This shows that the vaccination has helped. If they were all seriously ill, I’d be worried. This is just more of the same as we’ve been seeing for some time.

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steve_davis  Dec 7, 2021 • 4:49:41am

re: #102 Shropshire Slasher

This isn’t good.

nypost.com

“The cases are all considered mild.” Works for me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 4:59:37am

re: #101 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It appears there is now a UK version of the “War on Drugs” thing going on. So I expect a lot of stories about various chemical addictions to pop up in the British news outlets.

Boris needs a good diversion from his war on the UK economy.

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 7, 2021 • 5:00:28am

LOL

An aide to Vice President Kamala Harris responded to the exodus of staffers from her office by publicly proclaiming how much he loves his job — only to get roasted online.

Following a blistering report in which Harris was described as a “bully” who dishes out “soul-destroying criticism,” David Gins took to Twitter to say he’d never been happier.
A large photo in a gilt frame on the wall to his left showed Harris standing behind a desk next to second gentleman Douglas Emhoff.

Gins’ tweet quickly racked up more than 7,000 comments, many of which suggested he was being less than candid.

blink twice if you need help dave,” one commenter mocked, likening him to a hostage.

nypost.com

I have had jobs like that

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 7, 2021 • 5:02:46am

re: #112 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There was a photo floating around a couple of days ago of BoJo in a policeman’s garb, as a way to draw attention to his War on Drugs.

Said photo was of course mocked endlessly.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 5:04:13am

re: #114 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

There was a photo floating around a couple of days ago of BoJo in a policeman’s garb, as a way to draw attention to his War on Drugs.

Said photo was of course mocked endlessly.

Waiting for a photoshop of him busting Keith Richards…

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jeffreyw  Dec 7, 2021 • 5:12:08am

Good morning!

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William Lewis  Dec 7, 2021 • 5:14:34am

re: #115 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Waiting for a photoshop of him busting Keith Richards…

With Paul doing “Band on the Run” as the soundtrack?

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The Squire of Logos  Dec 7, 2021 • 5:22:24am

re: #3 ckkatz

You bring up a fascinating question on how Christmas was observed before our generation. Unfortunately, I cannot add much to the conversation beyond some Boomer interpreted historic songs like this one:

1970’s English folk rock:

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Big up-ding for Steeleye Span. They are a very long-lived and wonderful group.

Gaudete - Steeleye Span (Live, 1989)

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No Malarkey!  Dec 7, 2021 • 5:33:27am

re: #102 Shropshire Slasher

This isn’t good.

nypost.com

I’ll take it if boosted individuals are only getting mild cases.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 7, 2021 • 5:36:57am

re: #106 Patricia Kayden

This alone should disqualify him from running again.

it should, but it won’t, because his cultists don’t care. In other Covid news, the winter surge has begun in Kentucky. I just got the morning update, and almost every county in the state is in the red again.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 5:40:51am

re: #120 No Malarkey!

it should, but it won’t, because his cultists don’t care. In other Covid news, the winter surge has begun in Kentucky. I just got the morning update, and almost every county in the state is in the red again.

It’s a hoax, it’s nothing worse than the flu, etc. No biggie.

750K dead? Co-morbidities and over-reporting because they get Soros money for reporting Covid deaths…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 7, 2021 • 5:44:04am

re: #14 ckkatz

If anybody has contact with Joe Bacon, I think that he might be interested in this article:

Pennsylvania awards Tree of Life synagogue $6.6 million grant for rebuilding project
post-gazette.com

I see Joe often over at SorryAntiVaxxer. I said Hey the other day and told him I missed him.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 7, 2021 • 5:52:36am

re: #121 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s a hoax, it’s nothing worse than the flu, etc. No biggie.

750K dead? Co-morbidities and over-reporting because they get Soros money for reporting Covid deaths…

Everytime I sneak a peek at rightwing media, they are pushing antivaxxer talking points. Yesterday, I listened to a few seconds of Hannity, and he was pushing hydroxychloroquine.

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Belafon  Dec 7, 2021 • 5:58:47am

re: #102 Shropshire Slasher

This isn’t good.

nypost.com

If you wear a seat belt, but attend a demolition derby in you car, you’re probably going to get hurt.

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Belafon  Dec 7, 2021 • 6:06:58am

re: #113 Shropshire Slasher

LOL

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nypost.com

I have had jobs like that

I have, too, but it was the president, the secretary of Defense, the Secretary of the Navy, and my captain on the wall.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 7, 2021 • 6:10:25am

This is just speculation, but I’ve been wondering what, if any, standard the Court might set if they decide to treat women as something more than “earthen vessels” and preserve some shred of bodily autonomy when they reverse Roe v. Wade. There didn’t seem to be much interest in Roberts’ “I personally think that 15 weeks is long enough to decide whether or not to get an abortion” test. If they wanted a bare minimum standard, maybe they will allow women the right to an abortion to protect women who face disabling or life threatening conditions if the pregnancy continues. The media might then present this as a “compromise” preserving a right to an abortion.

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 7, 2021 • 6:18:29am
‘many Portlanders no longer feel safe in their city. Business owners have closed up shop for fear of doing business in high-risk areas. Commuters fear for their safety, whether taking public transport or going by foot. Parents are scared to let their children play outside.’

They have $62 million extra to play with this year, I am sure crime stats will go down.

Mayor Wheeler announces public safety investments as part of the Fall Budget Monitoring Process

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 6:25:26am

re: #123 No Malarkey!

Everytime I sneak a peek at rightwing media, they are pushing antivaxxer talking points. Yesterday, I listened to a few seconds of Hannity, and he was pushing hydroxychloroquine.

that will never go away.

and god, had it proved even the least bit effective against Covid, it would have meant that Trump would still be President, he would have been praised as savior of America and the World and avatar of science and proof that those elitist guys with their college degrees and years of experience in their fields of study are just pawns of Soros.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 7, 2021 • 6:25:59am

re: #116 jeffreyw

Eastern Black Swallowtail

NOM NOM NOM

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Dec 7, 2021 • 6:26:05am
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mmmirele  Dec 7, 2021 • 6:29:16am

Speaking of last nerves…

John MacArthur thinks of himself as a Bible scholar…well, he obviously can’t read the text. It says nothing about husbands being saviors of wifes wives. /spelling!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2021 • 6:30:36am

re: #1 mmmirele

jeebus, what on earth is going on in this painting? especially at the right side of the table…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 6:39:52am

re: #131 mmmirele

Oh, Patriarchal men. You just have way too high a view of yourselves and way too low a view of women.

and their obsessive cult of purity and virginity, which is based on the notion that “damaged” property has a lower market value, because otherwise one cannot ensure that a man’s herds and lands will be passed along to his own spawn…

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 7, 2021 • 6:40:19am

OH HAI

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Belafon  Dec 7, 2021 • 6:40:59am
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mmmirele  Dec 7, 2021 • 6:42:12am

re: #87 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

(a) You’re not a Catholic; and even if you were, the Sacrament of the Confession should not be used to cover up crimes in a nation ruled by law.

Josh Duggar says a family friend can’t testify about his alleged child molestation admissions because of ‘priest-penitent privilege’ (Yahoo!)

The judge in the case stomped all over this. Josh Duggar’s attorney was trying to get Bobye (pronounced Bobbie) Holt disqualified as a witness because her husband was an elder in Jim Bob Duggar’s home independent fundamental Baptist church. And gee, wives of elders are covered by clergy privilege? Nope, said the judge. Bobye Holt was the prosecution’s last witness yesterday. It was apparently harrowing testimony (scroll down).

nwahomepage.com

The case currently is with the defense and they’re trying to throw up various bogus defenses to build some, ANY, doubt.

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Belafon  Dec 7, 2021 • 6:43:07am

re: #135 Belafon

Reload

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darthstar  Dec 7, 2021 • 6:44:34am

re: #135 Belafon

twitter.com

I clicked on that link, then the California link on that page and got a stream of CA specific Covid data.

Actually a useful page.

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Belafon  Dec 7, 2021 • 6:50:59am

This seems like a good thing, but I bet antivaxxers will go nuts:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 6:52:08am

re: #139 Belafon

This seems like a good thing, but I bet antivaxxers will go nuts:

mothers poisoning innocent babies with beelzebub’s milkshake of perdition!

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Belafon  Dec 7, 2021 • 6:52:40am

re: #138 darthstar

I clicked on that link, then the California link on that page and got a stream of CA specific Covid data.

Actually a useful page.

The original link is the one that Twitter is including at the bottom of every covid tweet.

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Belafon  Dec 7, 2021 • 6:57:34am

It’s time for Republicans to ask why God is hardening their hearts:

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Dec 7, 2021 • 6:59:58am

re: #116 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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darthstar  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:04:38am

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Dangerman  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:07:12am

re: #29 Dave In Austin

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how did this manage a mere 5 updings?
i’ve got tears rolling down my face

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:10:58am

re: #82 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Logic: Non-religion is a religion. Also, you can’t say what you think if it offends me.

It makes them feel better about themselves.

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Belafon  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:12:14am

re: #82 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Logic: Non-religion is a religion. Also, you can’t say what you think if it offends me.

Not breathing is a form of breathing.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:13:39am

re: #103 Dopamine Fish

A reminder: No vaccine is 100% effective. Even boosted, it’s still important to take all the best mitigation steps you can, to avoid outcomes like this.

68 people sitting together eating means no masks. Why would anyone have 68 people together without masks? That doesn’t affect efficacy, it’s just plain stupidity.

And all cases were mild so the vax is doing its job.

Humans, however, are not.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:15:32am

re: #107 Shropshire Slasher

reuters.com

news.yahoo.com

bbc.com

cnn.com

abcnews.go.com

Might want to start with one of those. If it’s anything from the post, personally, I just go past it without reading anything because they are not a real news source.

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jeffreyw  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:16:04am

re: #129 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I originally captioned my pic ” Swallowtail caterpillar in the parsley sacrifice zone”, but the the caption was eated.
I wrote the caption in the pop-up when I dragged the file into the comment box, but I wanted to check that the caption was not overlaid on the photo so I entered the image library and saw that it that option was selected. I changed it to ‘outside’, hit save and then clicked insert without noticing that the caption box was blank.
I’ve noticed that behavior before but forgot. Not sure if the overlay option is the default or if it was because it was the last selected.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:16:52am

re: #109 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Vaccination is intended to give one an immediate response to the presence of a virus, instead of letting the virus replicate before your immune system fully responds.

Thus being vaccinated is not a goal of never catching a virus. A virus particle will enter your nasal passages regardless of whether you’re vaccinated or not.

Local data (San Diego County) suggests that the vaccinated are thirty-ish times less likely to die or be hospitalized than the unvaccinated.

Those Spanish medical personnel all report mild symptoms. Now, it will be interesting going forward to see how many mild cases of Covid-19 occur each season.

It is my suspicion, based on what virologists seem to be saying, is that we’re going to have treat ourselves with regular (annually, or biennially) coronavirus vaccinations, as we do for the flu.

Something else that would interest me is how many in their own personal circles have gotten the virus from them, how they fared, and their vax status.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:18:08am

re: #113 Shropshire Slasher

LOL

[Embedded content]

nypost.com

I have had jobs like that

So, you’re assuming that he is a hostage and not happy with his job? Really?

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No Malarkey!  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:19:50am

re: #139 Belafon

This seems like a good thing, but I bet antivaxxers will go nuts:

Too late; antivaxxers are already nuts.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:20:39am

re: #150 jeffreyw

I originally captioned my pic ” Swallowtail caterpillar in the parsley sacrifice zone”, but the the caption was eated.
I wrote the caption in the pop-up when I dragged the file into the comment box, but I wanted to check that the caption was not overlaid on the photo so I entered the image library and saw that it that option was selected. I changed it to ‘outside’, hit save and then clicked insert without noticing that the caption box was blank.
I’ve noticed that behavior before but forgot. Not sure if the overlay option is the default or if it was because it was the last selected.

I was just amused by the similarity of the pictures. That was my neighbor’s parsley that the caterpillars denuded twice. Enough time between generations this summer for it to recover.

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Dangerman  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:20:44am

re: #89 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is a salon article about the overlap between the “new atheist” and right-wing grift.

But there is one point of atheism that a lot of people cannot get their heads around: it is not only not a religion, it is not organized in any sense, which makes it very different from any established church or sect.

It has no scriptures or doctrine or prophets or ministers. Just individual[s] atheists who - for what ever reason - do not believe in God.

there are no meetings.
exactly the same as aphilatelists

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:21:43am

re: #147 Belafon

Not breathing is a form of breathing.

We’ve been over this ground before, and I have to leave anyway. But simply put, there is a difference between nonreligious and antireligious. The latter has led to persecutions as major as anything religions have done, and since the nonexistence of God is no more provable than the existence, forcing it down other people’s throats counts as promulgating religion.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:22:18am

re: #152 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

So, you’re assuming that he is a hostage and not happy with his job? Really?

How many Trump employees (outside immediate family) were the least bit satisfied with their jobs (for as long as they held them)?

But this is Kamala, and when it comes to her, our media are basically (Obama + Hillary)³ when it comes to negative reporting.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:22:46am

re: #139 Belafon

This seems like a good thing, but I bet antivaxxers will go nuts:

I hope so, but they do not have data on whether it does any good yet.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:23:05am

re: #155 Dangerman

there are no meetings.
exactly the same as aphilatelists

trying to force their non-hobby on those whose entire life is based on it

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Dangerman  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:24:05am

re: #116 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

monarchs?

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:24:55am
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Dangerman  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:25:53am

re: #129 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

[Embedded content]

NOM NOM NOM

re: #160 Dangerman

monarchs?

ok nevermind

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No Malarkey!  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:26:01am

re: #156 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

We’ve been over this ground before, and I have to leave anyway. But simply put, there is a difference between nonreligious and antireligious. The latter has led to persecutions as major as anything religions have done, and since the nonexistence of God is no more provable than the existence, forcing it down other people’s throats counts as promulgating religion.

That persecution is part of the Marxist belief system, which is itself a secular cult promising a future utopia, in every respect a religion except that it lacks a supernatural component.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:28:43am

re: #163 No Malarkey!

That persecution is part of the Marxist belief system, which is itself a secular cult promising a future utopia, in every respect a religion except that it lacks a supernatural component.

Marxist anti-religion was a result of the organized churches generally being ardent supporters, allies and enablers of the autocracy and aristocracy, making them Enemies of the People..

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No Malarkey!  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:29:34am

re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Marxist anti-religion was a result of the organized churches generally being ardent supporters, allies and enablers of the autocracy and aristocracy, making them Enemies of the People..

“The opiate of the masses.”

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jeffreyw  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:31:51am

re: #154 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I was just amused by the similarity of the pictures. That was my neighbor’s parsley that the caterpillars denuded twice. Enough time between generations this summer for it to recover.

We see the same thing every year, here’s a Swallowtail chrysalis from July of 2014.

I plant two or more containers with parsley every year with them in mind. They also love dill.

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lawhawk  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:32:03am

re: #128 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that will never go away.

and god, had it proved even the least bit effective against Covid, it would have meant that Trump would still be President, he would have been praised as savior of America and the World and avatar of science and proof that those elitist guys with their college degrees and years of experience in their fields of study are just pawns of Soros.

The truly insane bit is had Trump handled the pandemic in any semblance of semi competency, he would have easily won reelection. But his insane choice to purposefully make the pandemic as bad as possible for as many people as possible doomed his chances - killing 500,000+ Americans isn’t good for the resume of an American leader.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:33:08am

re: #165 No Malarkey!

“The opiate of the masses.”

That is one thing. Marx simply meant that they were what the disheartened masses turned to to ease their suffering.

But massive Communist anti-religion was based on political expediency: remember that that the Pillars of the Russian Empire said to be Autocracy and Orthodoxy.

Do not forget the close relations between Franco and the Catholic Church, and of course the British Monarchs are still titular head of the Anglican Church, etc…

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darthstar  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:34:57am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:35:12am

re: #167 lawhawk

The truly insane bit is had Trump handled the pandemic in any semblance of semi competency, he would have easily won reelection. But his insane choice to purposefully make the pandemic as bad as possible for as many people as possible doomed his chances - killing 500,000+ Americans isn’t good for the resume of an American leader.

That would have called on him to actually display leadership: to name and appoint competent people and listen to their counsel and recommendations.

That was never his style. He was much more concerned with the economic fallout, especially to his heavily-leveraged commercial properties.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:35:25am

re: #167 lawhawk

The truly insane bit is had Trump handled the pandemic in any semblance of semi competency, he would have easily won reelection. But his insane choice to purposefully make the pandemic as bad as possible for as many people as possible doomed his chances - killing 500,000+ Americans isn’t good for the resume of an American leader.

The real pity and frustration of all this is that his behavior, and that of the Republicans in support of it, should have led to a 30+ exile to the political wilderness for the party if not its outright extinction. With Trump being relegated to historical footnotes and a very high rating in the Worst Presidents Ever list.

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jeffreyw  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:35:53am

re: #160 Dangerman

monarchs?

Monarchs are similar, but those were Swallowtails.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:37:33am

There was an active shooter around the Kentucky Capitol this morning, but he was apparently just a car thief and not a terrorist. His accomplice, who did not fire at police, is still at large. No reports of injuries. kentucky.com

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Decatur Deb  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:38:51am

re: #171 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

The real pity and frustration of all this is that his behavior, and that of the Republicans in support of it, should have led to a 30+ exile to the political wilderness for the party if not its outright extinction. With Trump being relegated to historical footnotes and a very high rating in the Worst Presidents Ever list.

The fact that such a revulsion did not occur tells us things about the American people that we did not want to know. But we need to.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:40:54am

re: #172 jeffreyw

Monarch - which prefer munching on milkweed
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:41:32am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:42:43am

Milkweed Tussock Caterpillar (moth) - another muncher of milkweed

These things look a bit like colorful mobile pieces of pipe cleaner.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:42:57am

re: #174 Decatur Deb

The fact that such a revulsion did not occur tells us things about the American people that we did not want to know. But we need to.

And the state of our media, who had a clear financial interest in keeping a reality TV star in the White house to guarantee sensationalism and high ratings.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:43:11am

re: #174 Decatur Deb

The fact that such a revulsion did not occur tells us things about the American people that we did not want to know. But we need to.

Good article about the growing insanity in the GOP and Republican cowardice in the face of it.

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Dangerman  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:43:34am

re: #167 lawhawk

The truly insane bit is had Trump handled the pandemic in any semblance of semi competency, he would have easily won reelection. But his insane choice to purposefully make the pandemic as bad as possible for as many people as possible doomed his chances - killing 500,000+ Americans isn’t good for the resume of an American leader.

he could have been a leader.

but then he then would have turned off some of his base.
the anti-science/anti-intellectual who today are still cowering in fear and demonizing CDC, WHO, Fauci, etc.

as the broken ego that he is, who just has to be loved, maybe he couldnt risk this.
or maybe he would have upped the rally schedule and been even more careful about who got in (now only the ‘right’ kind of R’s).

finally, the guy’s a coward.
he was never going to ‘lead’; that wouldnt be him.
he took the temperature and decided he was ok with it wherever it went.

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lawhawk  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:44:05am

re: #170 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Even if he was solely concerned about his properties, his refusal to deal with the pandemic in any rational manner resulted in more economic harms to him, the economy, and the population.

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Dangerman  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:45:14am

re: #175 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

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my babies!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:45:43am

re: #181 lawhawk

Even if he was solely concerned about his properties, his refusal to deal with the pandemic in any rational manner resulted in more economic harms to him, the economy, and the population.

Remember the half a trillion dollars in financial aid to investors (with minimal oversight) that he released? You can damn well bet that a good chunk of that was shell-gamed around to help keep his finances afloat.

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Belafon  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:51:18am

re: #169 darthstar

My ten inch isn’t big enough for me to see the non-lunar objects to the left of Jupiter.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:52:07am
“I dare say, from many of my understanding of many of your viewpoints, you also promote, like, the way of interacting with women. And I go, ‘Have you been in a relationship with a woman,’” asked Watson.

“No,” replied Fuentes, who is 23.

The Blaze Interviews White Supremacist and Anti-Semite Nick Fuentes, Asks If He’s Ever Been With a Woman (Mediaite)

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lawhawk  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:52:27am

re: #184 Belafon

My ten inch isn’t big enough for me to see the non-lunar objects to the left of Jupiter.

Hey now…. this is a family site. /

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Belafon  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:52:34am

re: #184 Belafon

My ten inch isn’t big enough for me to see the non-lunar objects to the left of Jupiter.

Part of my problem is that I wouldn’t know if I was staring at Neptune.

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Belafon  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:52:52am

re: #186 lawhawk

Hey now…. this is a family site. /

Since when?

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lawhawk  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:54:33am
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No Malarkey!  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:56:10am

re: #189 lawhawk

Its much easier just to blame Joe Biden.

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The Squire of Logos  Dec 7, 2021 • 7:59:24am

re: #184 Belafon

My ten inch isn’t big enough for me to see the non-lunar objects to the left of Jupiter.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:03:17am

re: #190 No Malarkey!

Its much easier just to blame Joe Biden.

That is part of the job of being President.

The last guy was just very successful at ignoring/deflecting the blame and not doing his job of fixing the problem regardless whose fault it was.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:04:00am

re: #187 Belafon

Part of my problem is that I wouldn’t know if I was staring at Neptune.

What about Uranus?

(ba dum bum)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:04:30am

re: #177 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

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These things look a bit like colorful mobile pieces of pipe cleaner.

Those fuzzy bits are stingers

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Belafon  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:05:46am

re: #193 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What about Uranus?

(ba dum bum)

There’s a reason I chose Neptune. I’ve been informed that this is a family web site.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:06:44am

And a good morning from Southern Idaho to the Lizard family.

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Belafon  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:06:53am

I dont know who this is, but considering the musical tastes here someone might: Folk singer Bill Staines died of cancer on the fifth.

m.dailykos.com

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:08:23am

re: #195 Belafon

There’s a reason I chose Neptune. I’ve been informed that this is a family web site.

Since when?

(not to be redundant)

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Jay C  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:08:54am

re: #192 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is part of the job of being President.

The last guy was just very successful at ignoring/deflecting the blame and not doing his job of fixing the problem regardless whose fault it was.

And, of course, according to TFG, every problem was always Somebody Else’s fault…..

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jeffreyw  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:10:52am

re: #175 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

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Monarch Storm Shelter

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gocart mozart  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:12:56am
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No Malarkey!  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:16:14am

Hold him in contempt of Congress.

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jeffreyw  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:18:28am

This hornworm will be goin thru some thangs.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:19:43am
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The Squire of Logos  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:23:21am

re: #202 No Malarkey!

Hold him in contempt of Congress.

He’s just barely smart enough to realize that they are asking questions he can’t answer without implicating himself (and others).

Carnac the Magnificent sees a contempt citation in his near future.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:25:07am

re: #204 No Malarkey!

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Can’t really tell from the video, but was it that ugly gold monstrosity that was sitting on private property?

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Jay C  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:25:15am

re: #204 No Malarkey!

So was that the weird painted fiberglass (?) statue of Forrest looking wild-eyed and waving his sword? *

IIRC, that had been set up on private property, so its removal may well be because it is going to be relocated to someplace even more prominent (it’s Tennessee, after all)….

*ETA it looks like it

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Belafon  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:25:47am

re: #204 No Malarkey!

[Embedded content]

Is that the goofy looking one?

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Belafon  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:26:34am

re: #206 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

re: #207 Jay C

I sense a pettern…

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Jay C  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:27:32am

re: #209 Belafon

I sense a pettern…

GMTA

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Dangerman  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:30:33am

re: #205 The Squire of Logos

He’s just barely smart enough to realize that they are asking questions he can’t answer without implicating himself (and others).

Carnac the Magnificent sees a contempt citation in his near future.

some people are definitely cooperating
it’s gonna make it real hard to assert exec priv or some other legalese

- “xxx already testified so the committee already knows…”
- “how can you assert exec priv* on the same info when xxx didnt”

* plus it’s not your call in the first place

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:31:51am

re: #209 Belafon

I sense a pettern…

Probably because as sane, intelligent beings, we all want that thing destroyed. Not only because of what it represents, but because it was as fugly as hell.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:32:27am

There appears to be an outage with Disney Plus right now.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:37:59am

Upon further digging, it appears to be an outage at AWS affecting multiple services.

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lawhawk  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:39:01am

re: #204 No Malarkey!

Wasn’t that the insanely weird statue of the KKKer treasonweasel insurrectionist Forrest?

You got it.

It was removed one year after the guy who erected it died, and the executor of the estate ordered it removed.

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lawhawk  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:40:01am

re: #215 lawhawk

Backgrounder on the removal of the statute:

newschannel5.com

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:42:35am

re: #204 No Malarkey!

Owner of the land died a year ago.

tennessean.com

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Jay C  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:44:38am

re: #216 lawhawk

re: #217 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

LOL
(about the Forrest statue guy who died)

Dorris’ will left his estate to three parties:

The Sons of Confederate Veterans
The Battle of Nashville Trust
And his border collie Lulu

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:45:41am

re: #218 Jay C

Dorris’ will left his estate to three parties:

The Sons of Confederate Veterans
The Battle of Nashville Trust
And his border collie Lulu

so he was every bit as bonkers as his statue

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mmmirele  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:46:16am

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus, what on earth is going on in this painting? especially at the right side of the table…

[Embedded content]

“The past is another country, they do things differently there.”

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BlueSpotinAL  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:46:40am

re: #206 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Can’t really tell from the video, but was it that ugly gold monstrosity that was sitting on private property?

Speaking of ugly gold monstrosities…

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The Squire of Logos  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:46:44am

re: #217 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Owner of the land died a year ago.

tennessean.com

Can you image someone wanting that hideous thing to be their legacy?
🤢

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Jay C  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:52:11am

re: #222 The Squire of Logos

Can you image someone wanting that hideous thing to be their legacy?
🤢

Sadly, yes.
I can easily envision the estate auctioning it off and it being bought by some jackwad (or consortium of jackwads) who will likely re-erect it in some place even more visible than before, and probably seriously fundraise off of it over “triggering the libs” or whatever…

Oh well, at least Lulu the Border Collie will have her kibble and vet bills taken care of for the rest of her life: maybe they can keep one of Forrest’s boots for her to use as a “fire hydrant”…..

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:52:47am

re: #214 Eclectic Cyborg

Upon further digging, it appears to be an outage at AWS affecting multiple services.

That would explain why I couldn’t get Amazon to search for the cat water fountain replacement filters I was looking to order a few minutes ago.

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Belafon  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:52:59am

re: #222 The Squire of Logos

Can you image someone wanting that hideous thing to be their legacy?
🤢

If your cause is white supremacy, yes.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:54:49am

re: #202 No Malarkey!

Hold him in contempt of Congress.

And start throwing these fuckers into a jail cell.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:54:50am

re: #221 BlueSpotinAL

Speaking of ugly gold monstrosities…

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Got you beat. 😉

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darthstar  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:57:07am

re: #224 Eventual Carrion

That would explain why I couldn’t get Amazon to search for the cat water fountain replacement filters I was looking to order a few minutes ago.

I’m guessing Duolingo is in AWS as well.

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ipsos  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:57:23am

re: #227 Eclectic Cyborg

I peed in that toilet when it was on display at the Guggenheim a few years ago.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:57:44am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:58:50am
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Belafon  Dec 7, 2021 • 8:59:49am

re: #228 darthstar

I’m guessing Duolingo is in AWS as well.

I bet it is:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:00:11am

re: #228 darthstar

I’m guessing Duolingo is in AWS as well.

It is.

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A Cranky One  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:01:27am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:01:32am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:02:52am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:04:37am

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

Donald Trump on the other hand, would be trying to convince the Generals to send troops to support Putin.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:06:32am

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is such cringe graphic design.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:07:47am
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Jay C  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:08:56am

re: #237 Eclectic Cyborg

Donald Trump on the other hand, would be trying to convince the Generals to send troops to support Putin.

And blaming Joe Biden for stirring up the Ukrainians - probably to “cover up Joe and Hunter’s corrupt dealings”…..

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darthstar  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:11:42am

re: #228 darthstar

I’m guessing Duolingo is in AWS as well.

And Xfinity just took a dump. It’s a good thing Charles runs this site from a Commodore 64 in his garage.

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sagehen  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:14:42am

re: #116 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning!

that’s lovely, you can look forward to a Spring full of butterflies.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:15:35am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:17:00am
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:17:01am

Hey don’t dis the C-64. I ran my first BBS on one. Ran All American BBS software with a D9060 10 meg, yes meg, HD using a Skyles Electric Works IEEE 488 interface/adapter and a 28.8 kbs modem. It was considered cutting edge back then.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:17:54am
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nines09  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:18:40am

Good Tuesday all.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:19:04am

re: #241 darthstar

And Xfinity just took a dump. It’s a good thing Charles runs this site from a Commodore 64 in his garage.

Same with Comcast Business in the suburbs of Chicago. Back up now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:20:23am

re: #234 A Cranky One

I have a nephew about 12 years younger, who, I was told was just like me when I was his age.

There were several times when I found myself with my hands around his little neck, but then thought “Well, they let me live!” and relented.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:20:42am

re: #247 nines09

Good Tuesday all.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:20:56am

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:23:11am

re: #238 Eclectic Cyborg

That is such cringe graphic design.

unpaid intern

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nines09  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:23:32am

re: #250 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Hbsk/ebQeQNweosCEwfh4K16Q6IsFLCVx8UDRnELWTVpOCCcFg7K/ItuZTnes8NB

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:24:04am
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BeachDem  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:27:03am

re: #244 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Squire of Logos  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:28:17am

Looks like Amazon is back up.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:28:47am

Let us not forget how quickly the USA went about getting those women back out of the workforce and back home to raise kids after the war…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:34:08am

re: #256 The Squire of Logos

Looks like Amazon is back up.

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Belafon  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:39:03am

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Vlad might want to go look up how Democratic presidents react to needing to use force.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:39:50am

re: #259 Belafon

Vlad might want to go look up how Democratic presidents react to needing to use force.

and how leaders of a coalition react

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The Squire of Logos  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:47:51am

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well it was, I was back to shopping at least for a bit anyway.

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jaunte  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:48:11am

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

As usual, Ted Cruz opts for the most simpleminded interpretation of events so he can bash Democrats.
reuters.com

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Dangerman  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:50:34am

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

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- accept that things you don’t like are still the way they are
- recognize impermanence
- never think you have anything under control

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wrenchwench  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:51:50am

re: #184 Belafon

My ten inch isn’t big enough for me to see the non-lunar objects to the left of Jupiter.

At this point, it has become an ear caterpillar.

Aerosmith - Big Ten Inch Record (Live California Jam II ‘78) HD

I have a white vinyl 10 inch Dickies record.

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Dangerman  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:53:16am

re: #264 wrenchwench

At this point, it has become an ear caterpillar.

[Embedded content]

I have a white vinyl 10 inch Dickies record.

wow it took y’all long enough

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:54:19am

re: #256 The Squire of Logos

Looks like Amazon is back up.

And I was able to order the cat fountain filters. Bunny will be happy.

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The Squire of Logos  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:55:20am

re: #266 Eventual Carrion

And I was able to order the cat fountain filters. Bunny will be happy.

I am still adding to the cart so we’ll see if the website stays up.

Yay for Bunny!

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jaunte  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:55:33am

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

Some years ago I sent my middle daughter to Hawaii for the summer to get her away from some bad influences in Houston. She visited the Arizona memorial and was so inspired to do her part for the country she joined the Army.

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jaunte  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:57:39am

I have a feeling “Toddler Takeover” is not going to be a thing.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:58:25am

re: #233 Eclectic Cyborg

It is.

Does it work?

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:58:47am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:59:17am

re: #269 jaunte

“The Democrats have written their Toddler Takeover in ways that would turn families’ finances literally upside down.”

You mean it would make it possible for them to be able to raise a family and offer their children a chance at a better future?

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jaunte  Dec 7, 2021 • 9:59:53am

re: #272 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Imagine spending the money you now spend on childcare on food and clothing!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:01:43am

re: #273 jaunte

Imagine spending the money you now spend on childcare on food and clothing!

or (god forbid) helping finance their education!!!

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jaunte  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:02:25am

re: #274 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The World Turned Upside Down.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:04:31am

re: #264 wrenchwench

At this point, it has become an ear caterpillar.

[Embedded content]

I have a white vinyl 10 inch Dickies record.

I saw them, the Ramones, and Iggy Pop at a show in Chicago. The tinnitus from the event lasted a year.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:05:16am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:05:58am

re: #247 nines09

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wrenchwench  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:07:27am

re: #276 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I saw them, the Ramones, and Iggy Pop at a show in Chicago. The tinnitus from the event lasted a year.

Fast and loud. {{{ears}}}

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:12:01am

re: #279 wrenchwench

Fast and loud. {{{ears}}}

All bands that I like, but for the third band, I could just hear crunching sounds as my ears were wrecked.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:12:12am

re: #272 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“The Democrats have written their Toddler Takeover in ways that would turn families’ finances literally upside down.”

You mean it would make it possible for them to be able to raise a family and offer their children a chance at a better future?

That’s totally upside down to Republicans. We and our children are supposed to beg for scraps and be damn happy for whatever crumbs are thrown our way. Only the rich are supposed to succeed.

Totally upside down to them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:13:59am

re: #281 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

That’s totally upside down to Republicans. We and our children are supposed to beg for scraps and be damn happy for whatever crumbs are thrown our way. Only the rich are supposed to succeed.

Totally upside down to them.

I lifted this from here a few days back and will now return it:

2000: Go to college or you’ll be flipping burgers!
2008: What do you mean you can’t find a job, is flipping burgers too good for you?
2016: You want $15/hr for flipping burgers?! Millennials are so entitled.
2021: Why does no one want to flip burgers anymore?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:14:23am

re: #281 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

That’s totally upside down to Republicans. We and our children are supposed to beg for scraps and be damn happy for whatever crumbs are thrown our way. Only the rich are supposed to succeed.

Totally upside down to them.

As their base cries for the whites to have more children. But, of course, not one cent to go towards educating them and helping ensure they are healthy. Unless you’re wealthy enough to afford it.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:15:26am

re: #276 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I saw them, the Ramones, and Iggy Pop at a show in Chicago. The tinnitus from the event lasted a year.

I saw Deep Purple back in the 1980s and my ears rang for three days. Wore ear plugs to concerts after that point.

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Jay C  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:16:41am

re: #269 jaunte

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I have a feeling “Toddler Takeover” is not going to be a thing.

Disagree: I think the GOPers are totally going to try to make it a “thing”, though Mitch’s blatherings about “families’ finances” are, IMO, just a blind for their real (ideological) objections: i.e., that if the G gets involved [even more] in childcare and pre-K, the “woke left-wing mob” will seize on the programs to indoctrinate “our” kiddies into becoming America-hating, sex-crazed, atheist, Communistic race-shamed America-haters, and undermine “parental authority”, like woke Commies always do…..

Mitch McConnell might avoid being so blatant about it, but I’m sure MTG or some other member of the GOP Krazy Kaukus will step right up to make the argument much plainer.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:17:03am

re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Marxist anti-religion was a result of the organized churches generally being ardent supporters, allies and enablers of the autocracy and aristocracy, making them Enemies of the People..

Now do Southeast Asia.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:17:32am

re: #215 lawhawk

Wasn’t that the insanely weird statue of the KKKer treasonweasel insurrectionist Forrest?

You got it.

It was removed one year after the guy who erected it died, and the executor of the estate ordered it removed.

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Dangerman  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:19:44am

re: #277 Eclectic Cyborg

[Embedded content]

I have a set of Bluetooth headphones but they are wired to each other

I am totally both sidering this

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:21:15am

re: #285 Jay C

Disagree: I think the GOPers are totally going to try to make it a “thing”, though Mitch’s blatherings about “families’ finances” are, IMO, just a blind for their real (ideological) objections: i.e., that if the G gets involved [even more] in childcare and pre-K, the “woke left-wing mob” will seize on the programs to indoctrinate “our” kiddies into becoming America-hating, sex-crazed, atheist, Communistic race-shamed America-haters, and undermine “parental authority”, like woke Commies always do…..

West Germany was proud of its lack of child care for a long time as it was promoted as “proof” of their economic (and moral) superiority over the Communist East: “we can afford to let our mothers be housewives!”

That has changed greatly, especially since reunification and subsidized preschool is now (theoretically) guaranteed by law.

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wrenchwench  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:22:18am

I am the second of seven kids in my family (first girl). Twins were born when I was 8. I started babysitting at 12.

The Toddler Takeover is real.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:22:56am

re: #288 Dangerman

I have a set of Bluetooth headphones but they are wired to each other

I am totally both sidering this

I used to have a phoneless cord

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:23:14am

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Dangerman  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:25:00am
During Brett Kavanaugh’s controversial 2018 Supreme Court confirmation hearings, President Donald Trump ‘strongly considered’ dropping the nominee and instead going with a ‘stronger candidate,’ according to a new book by Trump’s former chief of staff Mark Meadows,” Politico reports.

“It wasn’t because of accusations that Kavanaugh had sexually assaulted Christine Blasey Ford while in high school, but because he’d professed that he ‘liked beer’ during his hearings and was, in Trump’s estimation, being too apologetic.”

What an ignoramus

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nines09  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:25:13am

Just texted an old friend to see how they are. Tells me 8 weeks ago him and his wife were driving to the shore and felt ill. Got Covid. Mild case. He lost sense of smell and taste and had a fever after they got there. His wife, who has medical issues, had a less severe reaction. He says the booster a week before saved his wifes’ butt.
I’m not asking him how. But he’s among that group of old time friends who just were reckless IMO.
But when you tire of the isolation….
And if anyone wondered why my pool was visitor free this summer…..
And I’m invited to a soiree out in my old stomping grounds this Friday. One of my best friends who went full on Trumper and I’m not sure I can ever look at him the same way. His daughter was besides herself. His wife is a self righteous know it all. Guy is talented. But he’s a sucker. And he’s unable to level with you.
Like a habitual liar. But we always made fun of that. Not any more.
Uh, well, ahh…..NOPE.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:26:39am

re: #287 No Malarkey!

I hope the dog gets all the money.

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Dangerman  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:28:36am
A source close to Donald Trump tells the New York Times the former president hates Mark Meadows’ new book and feels betrayed by him.

You hired him.
Only the best!

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:30:07am

re: #167 lawhawk

The truly insane bit is had Trump handled the pandemic in any semblance of semi competency, he would have easily won reelection. But his insane choice to purposefully make the pandemic as bad as possible for as many people as possible doomed his chances - killing 500,000+ Americans isn’t good for the resume of an American leader.

Jonathan Karl’s Betrayal has a very disturbing section (am about a third into the book) about a conversation he had with Will Steakin after Trump’s rally in Grand Rapids right before the election. He asked Will what he thought and Will said “I think he’s going to win”, a conclusion he had reached after attending multiple rallies and seeing the enthusiasm and excitement among the large numbers of Trump supporters, supporters who even before the election bought into the assertion that Trump could lose only if the election were rigged. Trump received 11 million more votes than in 2016 — he came within about 40,000 votes of winning, despite his disastrous mishandling of the pandemic.

He is the leader of a mindless cult, he is Hitler reborn with an uncanny skill at attracting followers, and almost the entire GOP party is either onboard or is too afraid to challenge him. Our future is bleak indeed unless we can find someway of dispelling the enchantment he holds over almost half our nation.

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Dangerman  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:30:42am

re: #293 Dangerman

What an ignoramus

And ffs that’s how you decide who to put on scotus??

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:31:30am

re: #295 Decatur Deb

I hope the dog gets all the money.

The article I read said originally the dog was getting 5M, but the executor of the will got that cut to 30K as sufficient for the rest of the dog’s life.

Assuming there was 5M in the estate that means someone else is making out.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:32:11am

re: #296 Dangerman

*I* could have told Meadows that would be Trumps reaction.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:32:37am

re: #299 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

The article I read said originally the dog was getting 5M, but the executor of the will got that cut to 30K as sufficient for the rest of the dog’s life.

Assuming there was 5M in the estate that means someone else is making out.

Dog should sue. Or bite.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:33:08am

The latest on the world chess championship, which is almost over. fivethirtyeight.com

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wrenchwench  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:37:11am

re: #302 No Malarkey!

The latest on the world chess championship, which is almost over. fivethirtyeight.com

They’re covering it like women’s sports!

The day began full of promise. Nepomniachtchi arrived at the board with a fresh haircut, without the man bun that had become his trademark, and with fresh reinforcements.

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nines09  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:40:44am

When I was young I saw many a big act. We went to Strawberry Fields concert in Mosport Ontario. Among the many acts was Grand Funk Railroad. To this day that was the most painful band to ever try and kill with volume.
And then in a form that has repeated itself to me time after time, years later driving Bunky Big Rig I’m on my way to Lindsay Ontario and pass the Mosport Speedway sign on CN route 35.
I…………I’ve been here before……
doo doo doo dooooo…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:40:45am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:44:13am

re: #294 nines09

I know several people who are going through withdrawals needing to do something, anything. One is considering flying from her home in FL to Chicago for NYE. I’m like, honey, no. We’re all wanting to live life but I’d we don’t get this under control there won’t be a life to live. She said she was bored. I told her at least he was breathing on her own. That made her think. Not sure what she’ll do but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ what are you gonna do? I’ve done my bit. It’s up to her now. I hope she makes the right decision.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 7, 2021 • 10:47:55am

re: #297 Hecuba’s daughter

Jonathan Karl’s Betrayal has a very disturbing section (am about a third into the book) about a conversation he had with Will Steakin after Trump’s rally in Grand Rapids right before the election. He asked Will what he thought and Will said “I think he’s going to win”, a conclusion he had reached after attending multiple rallies and seeing the enthusiasm and excitement among the large numbers of Trump supporters, supporters who even before the election bought into the assertion that Trump could lose only if the election were rigged. Trump received 11 million more votes than in 2016 — he came within about 40,000 votes of winning, despite his disastrous mishandling of the pandemic.

He is the leader of a mindless cult, he is Hitler reborn with an uncanny skill at attracting followers, and almost the entire GOP party is either onboard or is too afraid to challenge him. Our future is bleak indeed unless we can find someway of dispelling the enchantment he holds over almost half our nation.

Trump will be dead within a few years max. It’s not like he’s a young man whose influence will go on for decades. Who’s after him? Jr is a fuck up. Ivanka is a girl, and one who’s actually pretty dumb. Eric is just dumb and has no personality. There’s no one to pick up the cult mantle.


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