Unbelievable Jam: Tigran Hamasyan, “Drip” (Live at Jazz Sous Les Pommiers, Coutances, 2015)

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Playing in Tigran Hamasyan’s band is a little like being a musical marathon athlete. This composition is like the Solvang Century Ride, and these dudes were the winners.

Track from the “Mockroot” album.

Band:

Tigran Hamasyan - piano, voice
Sam Minaie - bass
Arthur Hnatek - drums

In association with France Télévisions Culturebox & France Télévision Basse Normandie.

Social media pages:

iTunes: apple.co
Official website: tigranhamasyan.com
Facebook: facebook.com
Twitter: @tigranmusic
TikTok: vm.tiktok.com

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 1, 2022 • 6:07:40pm
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jaunte  Jan 1, 2022 • 6:10:53pm

Tigran Hamasyan is great at keeping his playing distinct enough for the other instruments to show “through the openings.”

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 1, 2022 • 6:11:26pm

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jaunte  Jan 1, 2022 • 6:20:02pm
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Captain Magic  Jan 1, 2022 • 6:23:04pm
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Captain Magic  Jan 1, 2022 • 6:24:33pm

GRAND TRAVERSE COUNTY, Mich., (WPBN/WGTU) —Divers with Scuba North took a cold plunge into the New Year.

The dive took place at Clinch Park Marina. Divers bundled in dry suits to withstand cold water temperatures. Some dove from the boat launch and others from the marina, because of the waves.

Instructors with Scuba North said that the New Year’s Day dive is all about having fun, since the winter conditions make it easier for divers to see underwater.

“We have a lot of people today using underwater scooters, which is a device to pull them through the water, so it’s just kind of a fun thing to do,” said Bob Thorpe, owner of Scuba North. “When swimming here you look around and there’s some fish life and that sort of thing to see under the water. It’s a chance to get out you know, it’s kind of like going for a hike. You don’t necessarily have any big goals. It’s just a nice way to get outside.”

Scuba North offers beginner classes for those wishing to learn how to scuba dive.

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gocart mozart  Jan 1, 2022 • 6:39:03pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 1, 2022 • 6:49:49pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jan 1, 2022 • 6:50:17pm

Dang. Philly is getting soaked.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 1, 2022 • 6:50:24pm
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jaunte  Jan 1, 2022 • 6:56:52pm
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darthstar  Jan 1, 2022 • 7:04:55pm

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 1, 2022 • 7:05:12pm

Sometimes I feel like the Biden comms people are like Sister Mary Elephant and the American people are the “class.”

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 1, 2022 • 7:09:40pm

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 1, 2022 • 7:10:23pm

re: #7 gocart mozart

I need to watch the entirety of whatever that was!!

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darthstar  Jan 1, 2022 • 7:12:33pm

Ole Miss’s Jesus freak QB got injured. And it looks like he over did it with the crucifixion tattoos. I don’t think Jesus likes being reminded of his execution that much.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 1, 2022 • 7:15:00pm

re: #1 Patricia Kayden

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A Mom Anon  Jan 1, 2022 • 7:17:58pm

re: #18 DodgerFan1988

And very fancy wigs and shoes.

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darthstar  Jan 1, 2022 • 7:19:28pm

re: #18 DodgerFan1988

Like football players

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 1, 2022 • 7:21:51pm

And in my neck of the woods it is pouring. It is supposed to end soon.
forecast.weather.gov

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 1, 2022 • 7:27:21pm

So far, here just north of Chicago, it seems like we’ve gotten 5” of snow, give or take. A neighbor a few houses down was struggling to start his gas blower. By the time he got it running, I cleared half my driveway. I don’t miss those days. Thank you Toro. 😅

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 1, 2022 • 7:28:27pm

re: #18 DodgerFan1988

I love the dragging these idiots get when they make these stupid proclamations on Twitter. 😂 😂 It’s as if they don’t realize that most of us hate their guts. They suppress our votes to win.

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Jay C  Jan 1, 2022 • 7:28:51pm

re: #22 GlutenFreeJesus

So far, here just north of Chicago, it seems like we’ve gotten 5” of snow, give or take. A neighbor a few houses down was struggling to start his gas blower. By the time he got it running, I cleared half my driveway. I don’t miss those days. Thank you Toro. 😅

So yours is electric?

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TarHellion  Jan 1, 2022 • 7:41:38pm

re: #17 darthstar

He was also a projected first-round pick in the NFL draft. The football chuckleheads have criticized top players for skipping bowl games. They lauded Corral for playing a meaningless bowl game. Wonder if these same folks will kick in the millions he probably has cost himself.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 1, 2022 • 7:41:55pm

It’s the weirdest phenomenon: this bona fide vaccine researcher and doctor who holds a huge grudge over not getting credit for his early research starts going on Rogan, Beck, and other suspect podcasts to say that not enough research has been done to be sure of the effects of the vaccines he helped to create and now he is speaking out about “mass psychosis formation.” He means people like us who are sheep for following Fauci and for getting vaxxed and boosted, but the whole twitter “trend” line is in fact by his definition a mass psychosis formation of all kinds of anti-vaxxers, pure bloods, rogan fans, etc. ***I guess it’s “mass formation psychosis” and not what I wrote (edit).

The funny thing is, he is now a long-covid sufferer and tried to take Moderna after the fact to ameliorate his symptoms, but it didn’t work (duh). So now he’s doubly angry. I hate 2022.

theatlantic.com

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 1, 2022 • 7:44:53pm

re: #24 Jay C

So yours is electric?

Yup!! 2 batteries. One used at a time. I can clear my driveway, sidewalk to front door, sidewalk to back gate, and sidewalks to both neighbors’ driveways with 1/2-1/4 a battery left. Trick with these electric blowers is to clear your driveway more often. The deeper snow will of course use up more battery. But in 3 years I’ve never had a problem. :)

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 1, 2022 • 7:46:12pm

re: #27 GlutenFreeJesus

Yup!! 2 batteries. One used at a time. I can clear my driveway, sidewalk to front door, sidewalk to back gate, and sidewalks to both neighbors’ driveways with 1/2-1/4 a battery left. Trick with these electric blowers is to clear your driveway more often. The deeper snow will of course use up more battery. But in 3 years I’ve never had a problem. :)

I like being able to do the entire driveway in one go, after the snow has finished falling, however deep it is. Going out multiple times to deal with snow is what drives me crazy. However, I can see the appeal of the electric approach, and I’m glad it works for you.

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Belafon  Jan 1, 2022 • 7:46:42pm

It’s currently 30F in Rockwall. 24 hours ago it was 69F. We’ve had a cold front moving in since about 3pm.

My wife bought a ticket for us to drive through Christmas lights at the Texas Motor Speedway, on the north side of Fort Worth, some 70 miles almost due west from here. After getting done, around 7ish, my phone reported the local temperature at 24F. As we drove home, I watched the temperature slowly climb. When we pulled into my house, the temperature was 33F. So, for a 70 mile drive, the temperature rose nine degrees, which is a pretty intense gradient for a weather pattern.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 1, 2022 • 7:47:40pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Jan 1, 2022 • 7:50:32pm

LOL Current mood

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ckkatz  Jan 1, 2022 • 8:00:07pm

re: #27 GlutenFreeJesus

Yup!! 2 batteries. One used at a time. I can clear my driveway, sidewalk to front door, sidewalk to back gate, and sidewalks to both neighbors’ driveways with 1/2-1/4 a battery left. Trick with these electric blowers is to clear your driveway more often. The deeper snow will of course use up more battery. But in 3 years I’ve never had a problem. :)

Wow! I just looked and see that Toro has battery powered two-stage snow blowers. Battery technology has really taken off! Still a bit pricey though.

Certainly beats having to be a small gas engine mechanic. Particularly just as the snow is piling deeper and deeper.

But the major snowblowing lesson I have learned is to find the frickin’ newspaper before starting the snowblowing.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 1, 2022 • 8:02:49pm

re: #28 Dopamine Fish

I was like you before. Had a huge gas blower. Would let the snow pile up and only do it once. Even that thing struggled with 8”+ of snow. It was exhausting. And I would be out there the same amount of time vs doing it in stages. Now, maybe 15-20 minutes at a time. I think of it as a good workout. 😅

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ckkatz  Jan 1, 2022 • 8:03:15pm

re: #29 Belafon

It’s currently 30F in Rockwall. 24 hours ago it was 69F. We’ve had a cold front moving in since about 3pm.

My wife bought a ticket for us to drive through Christmas lights at the Texas Motor Speedway, on the north side of Fort Worth, some 70 miles almost due west from here. After getting done, around 7ish, my phone reported the local temperature at 24F. As we drove home, I watched the temperature slowly climb. When we pulled into my house, the temperature was 33F. So, for a 70 mile drive, the temperature rose nine degrees, which is a pretty intense gradient for a weather pattern.

It has been in the high 50s to 60s for most of the past week. We’re supposed to be facing that cold front Sunday night into Monday. With possible light snow for the first Monday morning commute in 2022. :/

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 1, 2022 • 8:03:47pm

re: #32 ckkatz

I just noticed that too. Overkill for my 6 car driveway, but still great to see!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 1, 2022 • 8:04:25pm

re: #26 Barefoot Grin

It’s the weirdest phenomenon: this bona fide vaccine researcher and doctor who holds a huge grudge over not getting credit for his early research starts going on Rogan, Beck, and other suspect podcasts to say that not enough research has been done to be sure of the effects of the vaccines he helped to create and now he is speaking out about “mass psychosis formation.” He means people like us who are sheep for following Fauci and for getting vaxxed and boosted, but the whole twitter “trend” line is in fact by his definition a mass psychosis formation of all kinds of anti-vaxxers, pure bloods, rogan fans, etc. ***I guess it’s “mass formation psychosis” and not what I wrote (edit).

The funny thing is, he is now a long-covid sufferer and tried to take Moderna after the fact to ameliorate his symptoms, but it didn’t work (duh). So now he’s doubly angry. I hate 2022.

theatlantic.com

My fanatic Trumpster FB friend who rants on a whole range of issues (especially CRT and COVID) delights in citing “Dr. Robert Malone who invented the mRNA platform” to discredit the use of vaccines and promote the notion that Omicron is just a bad head cold. But I don’t think Malone has really been associated with this discovery for the past 30 years; his work was in the late 1980’s.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 1, 2022 • 8:05:10pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 1, 2022 • 8:06:18pm
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Dave In Austin  Jan 1, 2022 • 8:08:25pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 1, 2022 • 8:09:51pm
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ckkatz  Jan 1, 2022 • 8:11:15pm

re: #35 GlutenFreeJesus

I just noticed that too. Overkill for my 6 car driveway, but still great to see!

The DC region is one of those ‘all or nothing’ places. Since 2017 we have had a grand total of 1@8” snowfall and 1@2” snowfall. However in 2016 we had (at least locally) a 30” snowfall. And that was the snowfall I went into with a hernia (acquired elsewhere and awaiting a surgeon appt) It took me three days of shoveling to dig out. Not that it mattered because nothing was moving locally.

I bought the snowblower on sale the following summer. And it has, so far, seemed to scare away the snow. In the past 4 years I have used it exactly… twice. (And the second time, on a 2’ snow was kind of pointless.)

Which reminds me, I need to pull it out, fuel it up and make sure that it starts. That (and La Nina) should keep the snow away for another year.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 1, 2022 • 8:11:39pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 1, 2022 • 8:16:46pm
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stpaulbear  Jan 1, 2022 • 8:17:37pm

re: #12 darthstar

I’m already falling behind on #3.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 1, 2022 • 8:18:13pm
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Jay C  Jan 1, 2022 • 8:22:22pm

re: #39 Dave In Austin

Yeah, I remember reading about that island: it happens to lie dead on the boundary line between Canadian and Greenlandic (Danish) waters. And isn’t a more serious territorial dispute, since, as we can see, it’s pretty barren - and also, only about 600m (?) across….

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retired cynic  Jan 1, 2022 • 8:22:36pm

re: #41 ckkatz

At our farm, about 1980, we had a really big snow with a lot of drifting. Snowmobiles were a big thing amongst the guys. But that time, one of the neighboring farmers had a heart attack, and no one could drive him out and no ambulance could get in. Another neighbor put him up in one of those huge tractors, and got him out over the fields to a waiting ambulance.

So we bought a snow blower, tractor sized, on a 3-point hitch. We were ready!

It never snowed deeply enough to use it, and it eventually rusted into the ground. As did all of the snowmobiles.

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BeachDem  Jan 1, 2022 • 8:24:17pm

re: #42 Dread Pirate Ron

[Embedded content]

Nina Turner has proven time and time again that she couldn’t successfully challenge a toddler to a game of checkers.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 1, 2022 • 8:25:55pm

re: #36 Hecuba’s daughter

My fanatic Trumpster FB friend who rants on a whole range of issues (especially CRT and COVID) delights in citing “Dr. Robert Malone who invented the mRNA platform” to discredit the use of vaccines and promote the notion that Omicron is just a bad head cold. But I don’t think Malone has really been associated with this discovery for the past 30 years; his work was in the late 1980’s.

It’s what makes him particularly dangerous, I think.

As depressing as this development is, I was bouyed just now by reading one of the most devastating book reviews I’ve seen—ever. By historian Timothy Snyder on a book that would not have been on my radar anyway. There is not a word out of place:

THE STORY PARADOX
How Our Love of Storytelling Builds Societies and Tears Them Down
By Jonathan Gottschall

It is a “considerable bother,” says Jonathan Gottschall, to write a book; he lightens the task by writing about himself and excusing himself from extensive research. He sets a memorable scene of a morning spent in the lounge of a college psychology department flipping through the indexes of textbooks. He concludes from this that no one has ever undertaken his subject, the “science” of how stories work. Eureka.

Gottschall, a research fellow at Washington & Jefferson College, tells us that “for as long as there have been humans, we’ve been telling the same old stories, in the same old way, for the same old reasons.” We live in “unconscious obedience to the universal grammar” of stories. In other words: We don’t tell stories, they tell us. And everyone is the same kind of storyteller, Jesus and Socrates and all the rest. The universal story hard-wired into our brains is, says Gottschall, one in which everything gets worse until it gets better.

This “universal grammar” doesn’t seem to fit the Book of Genesis, Norse mythology, Greek mythology, the Analects, the Rigveda, “Hamlet,” “The Brothers Karamazov,” “Madame Bovary,” etc. But that is the least of Gottschall’s problems.

In “The Story Paradox,” he explains that stories filter what we should hear into what we want to hear. What might seem like innocent narrative tension can mean the rallying of one tribe against another. These are perfectly sensible points, made decades ago by Hannah Arendt. Yet in this book Gottschall tells just such a story about himself: a heroic scholar whose original insight challenges our preconceptions, leading a charge against an enemy tribe of terrifying left-wing academics. Defending this version, he ignores others who have made arguments very similar to his own, and dismisses whole disciplines and professions that offer counterarguments to his views. Gottschall demonstrates the power of stories by falling for his own….

nytimes.com

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Belafon  Jan 1, 2022 • 8:31:40pm

re: #49 Barefoot Grin

If he didn’t fall for his on story would he be credulous?

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ckkatz  Jan 1, 2022 • 8:32:29pm

re: #45 Dread Pirate Ron

One of the things I have been reading is that Russia has committed a significant part of it’s ground power to the threatened invasion. (I have seen numbers as high as 75% of its maneuver battalions.)

Ukraine has little likelihood of stopping such an invasion immediately. What Ukraine has done instead is to threaten to drag such a war on indefinitely. Which means the vast majority of Russia’s ground combat power would be stuck in there.

Plus, Russia is not a rich or highly stable country. It might require additional beyond what ever it declares as winning, to rebuild the wear and tear out of it’s army. That is not counting units that will have to remain in Ukraine and cannot be used elsewhere.

It seems to me this is Russia’s response to the Ukrainian threat to drag the war out. Basically, that Russia can inflict crippling damage without committing its ground forces.

A factor to watch is that it is expensive for Russia to maintain its military in invasion readiness stance. I have seen estimates that Russia probably has until June at the latest to either invade or return its forces to their garrisons.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 1, 2022 • 8:34:40pm

SNL is running g the Betty White episode tonight

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ckkatz  Jan 1, 2022 • 8:36:44pm

re: #49 Barefoot Grin

The book “Sapiens” talks about the power of human storytelling. How it can mobilize humans over vast territories, who have never met each other, to work together towards some mutual goal. And that this power was evident even before any sort of mass communication.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 1, 2022 • 8:37:23pm

re: #50 Belafon

If he didn’t fall for his on story would he be credulous?

Heh. For me, I think this is like an unwitting trap that postmodernism played on the right wing. Just another “the tyranny of narrative” in a narrative 25 years after it was cool. In my field, my favorite title in the heyday of postmodernism was a sarcastic one that played on that “tyranny of narrative” theme that was always described in the most dense jargon-laden language: “The Tyranny of Lucidity.”

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 1, 2022 • 8:37:33pm

re: #52 Dave In Austin

Watching it now.

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Jay C  Jan 1, 2022 • 8:38:01pm

re: #48 BeachDem

Nina Turner has proven time and time again that she couldn’t successfully challenge a toddler to a game of checkers.

True, but for her, and her horde* of online stans, the “success” part seems to be far less-important than the “challenge” bit.

*value for “horde” may fluctuate.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 1, 2022 • 8:39:12pm

re: #52 Dave In Austin

SNL is running g the Betty White episode tonight

Thanks for the heads up.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 1, 2022 • 8:48:09pm
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BeachDem  Jan 1, 2022 • 8:51:44pm

re: #56 Jay C

True, but for her, and her horde* of online stans, the “success” part seems to be far less-important than the “challenge” bit.

*value for “horde” may fluctuate.

She is truly one of the most unpleasant people I have ever had the displeasure of meeting (unfortunately, many times.) She is obnoxious, full of herself (also full of shit) and has the depth of a shallow puddle. (So I guess it stands to reason that she would have a “horde” of online stans.) Sigh.

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ckkatz  Jan 1, 2022 • 8:58:10pm

re: #47 retired cynic

At our farm, about 1980, we had a really big snow with a lot of drifting. Snowmobiles were a big thing amongst the guys. But that time, one of the neighboring farmers had a heart attack, and no one could drive him out and no ambulance could get in. Another neighbor put him up in one of those huge tractors, and got him out over the fields to a waiting ambulance.

So we bought a snow blower, tractor sized, on a 3-point hitch. We were ready!

It never snowed deeply enough to use it, and it eventually rusted into the ground. As did all of the snowmobiles.

I hope that your neighbor was able to get to medical treatment in time.

Yes. You have my sympathies on the unused preparations.

Robert Burns probably said it best: “the best-laid plans of mice and men gang aft a-gley.”

I guess that we all face the question of what problems to prepare for and what to ignore. It seems to me that being prepared but never having to use those preparations was a pretty good result.

My personal experience is usually that if I try to ignore that kind of problem, it would happen again. (“Murphy was an optimist.”)

I will say that I have always been very impressed with the very large farm tractors. As long as one is careful with them, they can do quite a lot. Including go through a lot of snow and mud. On the other hand, my 1/4 acre of suburbia has little demand for the services of one.

Btw, the Hagerstown, Md Mall has a display of various tractors. And when I was dating a lady there, we used to go past that exhibit a lot. It also has the closest Primantis Restaurant to DC. (A Pittsburgh restaurant chain.)

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retired cynic  Jan 1, 2022 • 8:59:55pm

re: #60 ckkatz

Yes, I should have said, our neighbor recovered well.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 1, 2022 • 9:00:54pm

re: #59 BeachDem

She is truly one of the most unpleasant people I have ever had the displeasure of meeting (unfortunately, many times.) She is obnoxious, full of herself (also full of shit) and has the depth of a shallow puddle. (So I guess it stands to reason that she would have a “horde” of online stans.) Sigh.

Unfortunately it’s people like her that led to Trump’s election and can lead to that devastating outcome again.

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retired cynic  Jan 1, 2022 • 9:03:12pm

re: #60 ckkatz

We had a semi, loaded full with grain from our crop, sink up to the axles in our pasture once. We tried with our biggest tractor, which was big for us, but not on the scale tractors are now. We could not wiggle it. A neighbor, with one of those early huge, lime-green Steigart (?name) come down, and he didn’t even shift into low. Just pulled it on out to the road. We were certainly impressed. Not enough to spend the money on one (the equivalent of about a quarter of million today, I’m guessing).

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Dave In Austin  Jan 1, 2022 • 9:08:17pm

Jason is running in E. Texas….
He’s the one who coined this meme back in 19. Please give him a follow.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 1, 2022 • 9:10:42pm

Uh oh. Apparently an NCO has been sending dick pics to junior service members and cadets. I suspect he will be busted in short order. Good hunting, General.

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BeachDem  Jan 1, 2022 • 9:13:15pm

re: #62 Hecuba’s daughter

Unfortunately it’s people like her that led to Trump’s election and can lead to that devastating outcome again.

I think I can say, in the case of Nina Turner—never gonna happen. She has some loud, equally obnoxious supporters on the left, but most Democrats I know can’t stand her. And she would not get a single Republican vote as far as I can see.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 1, 2022 • 9:14:49pm

re: #65 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

What a fucking idiot.

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ckkatz  Jan 1, 2022 • 9:16:57pm

re: #63 retired cynic

We had a semi, loaded full with grain from our crop, sink up to the axles in our pasture once. We tried with our biggest tractor, which was big for us, but not on the scale tractors are now. We could not wiggle it. A neighbor, with one of those early huge, lime-green Steigart (?name) come down, and he didn’t even shift into low. Just pulled it on out to the road. We were certainly impressed. Not enough to spend the money on one (the equivalent of about a quarter of million today, I’m guessing).

Yes, managing cash flow on a farm is a critical skill. And I understand that there are a number of large “vulture” corporations which now swoop down and buy out, very cheaply, small farmers who did not have that skill.

I was also reading somewhere that folks are starting to put AC and stereo cabs on tractors.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Jan 1, 2022 • 9:20:43pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jan 1, 2022 • 9:20:48pm

re: #68 ckkatz

Yes, managing cash flow on a farm is a critical skill. And I understand that there are a number of large “vulture” corporations which now swoop down and buy out, very cheaply, small farmers who did not have that skill.

I was also reading somewhere that folks are starting to put AC and stereo cabs on tractors.

In the 1960s and 1970s most of my cousins on my dad’s side were farmers in Adams Co and Tazewell Co Illinois. Their sons tried to make a go, but couldn’t compete with the corporations buying up farms starting in the 1980s. I think only one is still doing it.

ETA: left out some context: they needed more acreage to profit but couldn’t expand because of the big ag corps buying up much of the land. Could rent for a while, but that didn’t last.

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retired cynic  Jan 1, 2022 • 9:22:55pm

re: #68 ckkatz

Yes, managing cash flow on a farm is a critical skill. And I understand that there are a number of large “vulture” corporations which now swoop down and buy out, very cheaply, small farmers who did not have that skill.

I was also reading somewhere that folks are starting to put AC and stereo cabs on tractors.

Oh, absolutely. Computers, AC, heat, stereo. They pretty well are computerized now. Guided along the rows to make them straight, turning at the proper spot. Helicopters are flying on insecticide and herbicide. If you aren’t farming thousands of acres now, with investments in crop futures and huge storage facilities, you aren’t in the business. And you never buy a tractor. Or a combine, heaven forbid. You lease them. Servicing built in to the contracts.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 1, 2022 • 9:23:23pm

re: #66 BeachDem

I think I can say, in the case of Nina Turner—never gonna happen. She has some loud, equally obnoxious supporters on the left, but most Democrats I know can’t stand her. And she would not get a single Republican vote as far as I can see.

It’s not that people will vote for her — it’s that she will persuade people either not to vote or vote for some alternative candidate. Bernie fanatics contributed to Hillary’s loss by refusing to vote or to vote for Jill Stein or some other alternative.

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ckkatz  Jan 1, 2022 • 9:24:47pm

re: #65 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

I am reminded of the very old Army comment:

Murphy’s Time-Action Quandary: You never know how soon is too late.

(But that NCO is about to find out.)

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ckkatz  Jan 1, 2022 • 9:31:55pm

re: #70 Barefoot Grin

In the 1960s and 1970s most of my cousins on my dad’s side were farmers in Adams Co and Tazewell Co Illinois. Their sons tried to make a go, but couldn’t compete with the corporations buying up farms starting in the 1980s. I think only one is still doing it.

Yes, a farmer is no longer a farmer, but also has to be a small businessman. And many folks just do not have the interest to do that.

A similar thing went through the medical profession not long ago as well. And most doctors are now employees because their skill set does not include the needed business skills.

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BeachDem  Jan 1, 2022 • 9:32:19pm

re: #72 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s not that people will vote for her — it’s that she will persuade people either not to vote or vote for some alternative candidate. Bernie fanatics contributed to Hillary’s loss by refusing to vote or to vote for Jill Stein or some other alternative.

All true. I was addressing the Politico statement that she might be the one to challenge Biden.

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Targetpractice  Jan 1, 2022 • 9:34:11pm

re: #42 Dread Pirate Ron

[Embedded content]

Continuing the theme that Biden is repeating Obama’s presidency, now we’re on to the “Progressives are restless, may try a primary challenge” portion of the script.

FFS

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ckkatz  Jan 1, 2022 • 9:40:55pm

re: #71 retired cynic

Oh, absolutely. Computers, AC, heat, stereo. They pretty well are computerized now. Guided along the rows to make them straight, turning at the proper spot. Helicopters are flying on insecticide and herbicide. If you aren’t farming thousands of acres now, with investments in crop futures and huge storage facilities, you aren’t in the business. And you never buy a tractor. Or a combine, heaven forbid. You lease them. Servicing built in to the contracts.

Didn’t John Deere Co sue a farmer who did his own maintenance on his John Deere equipment recently?

Iirc some sort of legal action based upon intellectual property, between Monsanto and a farmer next to a farmer who used Monsanto’s GMO crop seed due to cross fertilization between the two farmers’ crops.

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A Cranky One  Jan 1, 2022 • 9:46:50pm

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 1, 2022 • 9:50:05pm

Here’s something Big Brush, Big Paste, and Big Floss don’t want you to know: your teeth build up natural immunity to bacteria through layers of plaque and gook.

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ckkatz  Jan 1, 2022 • 9:52:26pm

Looks like Putin’s aggression has Finland seriously looking at the option of joining NATO:

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IngisKahn  Jan 1, 2022 • 9:59:56pm

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ckkatz  Jan 1, 2022 • 10:01:37pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 1, 2022 • 10:08:51pm

re: #81 IngisKahn

So Ben Garrison endorses the murder of Dr. Fauci. It is distressing that our country is so damaged that someone like him retains a platform to promote calls for violence against anyone who doesn’t agree with him.

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ckkatz  Jan 1, 2022 • 10:16:31pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 1, 2022 • 10:22:37pm

re: #82 ckkatz

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The Founders couldn’t even agree on the proper form and function of government within their own lifetimes. Which is why we ended up drafting the Constitution after it was found that the Articles of Confederation were an unworkable mess, despite wingnuts constantly confusing the two when asserting “states rights.”

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ckkatz  Jan 1, 2022 • 10:27:23pm

Yup.

Yet another reason why all this talk about burning everything down, throwing away centuries of agreed upon law, and having a Constitutional Convention is both stupid and highly destructive.

By the way, I hope that your NYE evening did not end up too unpleasant or crazy.

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A Cranky One  Jan 1, 2022 • 10:29:15pm

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Targetpractice  Jan 1, 2022 • 10:33:37pm

re: #86 ckkatz

Yup.

Yet another reason why all this talk about burning everything down, throwing away centuries of agreed upon law, and having a Constitutional Convention is both stupid and highly destructive.

By the way, I hope that your NYE evening did not end up too unpleasant or crazy.

Nah, it was a fairly tame night, all things considered. Just busy with people coming in way later than normal, but otherwise I didn’t have to tell anybody to turn things down and I wasn’t breaking up any fights, so it was all good. Though it’s a sad commentary on America today that I couldn’t tell whether the popping I heard at midnight was fireworks…or gunshots.

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wrenchwench  Jan 1, 2022 • 10:37:22pm

re: #87 A Cranky One

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Are you and Oscar related?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 1, 2022 • 10:47:44pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 1, 2022 • 10:49:28pm

We’re going to get a freeze tonight in the bay area. 34.5F now.

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ckkatz  Jan 1, 2022 • 10:50:02pm

re: #88 Targetpractice

Nah, it was a fairly tame night, all things considered. Just busy with people coming in way later than normal, but otherwise I didn’t have to tell anybody to turn things down and I wasn’t breaking up any fights, so it was all good. Though it’s a sad commentary on America today that I couldn’t tell whether the popping I heard at midnight was fireworks…or gunshots.

Good to hear that things were fairly tame.

And yes, loud unidentifiable noises, where one real option is gunshots, can be a pucker factor. At least for me.

Probably the most surreal hotel visit I have ever had was at a cousins wedding in Ocean City, Maryland.

There was a NASCAR race in nearby Delaware. Which led to a lot of fans staying in large numbers per room. And they were not examples of high fashion.

There was also a deputy sheriffs’ convention going on at the same time. And there was convention for llama related businesses in the lobby.

When I turned into the parking lot, past groups of less than sober men, saw that it was full of police cars and uniformed deputy sheriffs, then saw someone walking a llama, I knew that it would be a very different kind of weekend.

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Targetpractice  Jan 1, 2022 • 10:55:05pm

re: #92 ckkatz

Good to hear that things were fairly tame.

And yes, loud unidentifiable noises, where one real option is gunshots, can be a pucker factor. At least for me.

Probably the most surreal hotel visit I have ever had was at a cousins wedding in Ocean City, Maryland.

There was a NASCAR race in nearby Delaware. Which led to a lot of fans staying in large numbers per room. And they were not examples of high fashion.

There was also a deputy sheriffs’ convention going on at the same time. And there was convention for llama related businesses in the lobby.

When I turned into the parking lot, past groups of less than sober men, saw that it was full of police cars and uniformed deputy sheriffs, then saw someone walking a llama, I knew that it would be a very different kind of weekend.

Yeah, when I worked at the beach, the sales dept was sane enough to only ever book one event at a time. Though that did bring a varied and interesting schedule, as one week might be an annual bridge tournament (nice folks), the next would involve a middle/high school sports group (GAH!!!), and then following week after that might be a family throwing a quinceañera (very friendly, if a little loud). The one group I actually looked forward to annually were the Shriners, since they were always well-behaved, friendly, and the worst you dealt with was one or two drunks playing poker into the late hours in the convention hall.

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ckkatz  Jan 1, 2022 • 11:09:14pm

re: #93 Targetpractice

Yeah, when I worked at the beach, the sales dept was sane enough to only ever book one event at a time. Though that did bring a varied and interesting schedule, as one week might be an annual bridge tournament (nice folks), the next would involve a middle/high school sports group (GAH!!!), and then following week after that might be a family throwing a quinceañera (very friendly, if a little loud). The one group I actually looked forward to annually were the Shriners, since they were always well-behaved, friendly, and the worst you dealt with was one or two drunks playing poker into the late hours in the convention hall.

Yes. After I posted, I was thinking that you probably have a lot of great stories that you (and William Lewis) can’t (or shouldn’t) talk about.

Sounds like you did have a sane sales department. And also, how most people are fairly reasonable decent folks. Even if the media seems to concentrate on and amplify the deviants.

When I was in college, somebody talked the University of Pittsburgh Student Union staff into having a one day “Beer Festival”. Beyond the hopelessly inebriated, the sprung wood ballroom floor upon which the event was being held, ended up under about an inch of beer. For some reason that particular event never happened again.

I was bummed, because in my usual fashion, I did not find out about it until about 10 minutes before it (was) closed (down).

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ckkatz  Jan 1, 2022 • 11:23:45pm

Baltimore County, Maryland is the county that surrounds Baltimore, Md:

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sagehen  Jan 1, 2022 • 11:25:44pm

re: #87 A Cranky One

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2020
2020 won
2020 too

A trio that certainly justifies Oscar’s pessimism.

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Targetpractice  Jan 1, 2022 • 11:29:54pm

re: #90 Dread Pirate Ron

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To me, the ur-example of how fucked modern journalism in this country is happened back in 2013, when Chuck Todd first opined that Repubs had been better at messaging on the ACA, before covering his (and the legacy media in general’s) ass by declaring that the WH had failed to “sell” the law. A sentiment that he has since repeated this past year when talking about the “failure” of the WH to “sell” the BBB bill.

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ckkatz  Jan 1, 2022 • 11:41:24pm

Ketamine is used to sedate intubated patients. (Ie patients on ventilators).

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American Society of Health-System Pharmacists
Current Drug Shortages
12/13/2021
Ketamine Injection

Reason for the Shortage
AuroMedics has ketamine on shortage due to increased demand.
Hikma has ketamine injection on shortage due to increased demand.
Mylan Institutional divested ketamine to AuroMedics.
Par had Ketalar on shortage due to increased demand.
Pfizer has ketamine on shortage due to manufacturing delays.

ashp.org

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ckkatz  Jan 1, 2022 • 11:49:55pm

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ckkatz  Jan 1, 2022 • 11:57:32pm
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Belafon  Jan 1, 2022 • 11:59:52pm

At 11:30, CERT was called out for a house fire. About 6 of us responded. It was about 25F the whole 90 minutes we were out there, with a wind chill of 17. We set up a table with coffee for the fire fighters. At the end, when we were packing up, one of the members poured water on the table to clean a spot and we watched the water freeze on the table.

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Targetpractice  Jan 2, 2022 • 12:00:59am

re: #100 ckkatz

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The “fiscally conservative’ Repubs would like you to know that the proper way to deal with a pandemic is not to get the free federally subsidized vaccine and wear masks that are practically falling from the skies, but to instead wait until you get sick and then beg hospitals to give you expensive treatments that might keep you from ending up on a ventilator.

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2022 • 12:04:34am

re: #100 ckkatz

I’m thinking some Democrats in the Senate should introduce a bill requiring that Covid funding going to Texas to be tied to masking in preschool.

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ckkatz  Jan 2, 2022 • 12:07:06am

re: #101 Belafon

Sounds like you spent Saturday evening in a more productive and more socially beneficial way than I did.

Saw this from earlier today:

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ckkatz  Jan 2, 2022 • 12:15:21am

re: #102 Targetpractice

I have great respect for our Texas lizards; Lots of appreciation for all that they contribute to lgf; And I have great sympathy for what they are going through. I wish them and all of theirs well and hope for everyone’s continued safety.

But to be honest, I am not sure what to say about what is currently happening in Texas. Nor am I even certain that there is anything that I could say.

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A Cranky One  Jan 2, 2022 • 12:18:50am

re: #89 wrenchwench

Are you and Oscar related?

I don’t like to acknowledge that. His bubbly enthusiasm is too contagious.

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Targetpractice  Jan 2, 2022 • 12:25:34am

re: #105 ckkatz

I have great respect for our Texas lizards; Lots of appreciation for all that they contribute to lgf; And I have great sympathy for what they are going through. I wish them and all of theirs well and hope for everyone’s continued safety.

But to be honest, I am not sure what to say about what is currently happening in Texas. Nor am I even certain that there is anything that I could say.

The GQP midterms sales pitch is simple: “COVID is over, it’s time to go back to worrying about the things that are really dangerous: Illegals and BIG GOVERNMENTtm.”

And Gov. Ironsides is going all in, first raiding the state coffers to build Trump’s “wall,” then bitching that he can’t get funding from the Feds for expensive COVID treatments while crowing at the same time that he’s beating back Biden’s mandates.

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ckkatz  Jan 2, 2022 • 12:26:27am

Time to head to bed.

Please stay safe out there!

And I have no further comments about that incident while playing peek-a-boo that ended with the ICU. ;)

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ckkatz  Jan 2, 2022 • 12:48:25am

re: #107 Targetpractice

The GQP midterms sales pitch is simple: “COVID is over, it’s time to go back to worrying about the things that are really dangerous: Illegals and BIG GOVERNMENTtm.”

And Gov. Ironsides is going all in, first raiding the state coffers to build Trump’s “wall,” then bitching that he can’t get funding from the Feds for expensive COVID treatments while crowing at the same time that he’s beating back Biden’s mandates.

You will get _no_ argument from me.

But for the life of me, I do not understand why the folks that matter, a plurality of Texas voters, are completely fine with this.

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Targetpractice  Jan 2, 2022 • 1:22:05am

re: #109 ckkatz

You will get _no_ argument from me.

But for the life of me, I do not understand why the folks that matter, a plurality of Texas voters, are completely fine with this.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2022 • 2:38:41am

re: #68 ckkatz

Yes, managing cash flow on a farm is a critical skill. And I understand that there are a number of large “vulture” corporations which now swoop down and buy out, very cheaply, small farmers who did not have that skill.

I was also reading somewhere that folks are starting to put AC and stereo cabs on tractors.

Yet we still cling to the image of the family farmer as the repository of all those American virtues of independence, self-reliance, hard work and family. And we somehow assume that these are the sort of people who benefit from agricultural subsidies…

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Dangerman  Jan 2, 2022 • 4:24:21am

re: #74 ckkatz

Yes, a farmer is no longer a farmer, but also has to be a small businessman. And many folks just do not have the interest to do that.

A similar thing went through the medical profession not long ago as well. And most doctors are now employees because their skill set does not include the needed business skills.

Ive been counseling for 30 years that having a skill is entirely different from managing and running a company using those skills.

Great plumber or farmer or even accountant thinks he’s working for a moron wants to go into business for himself

I explain instead of working for a moron now youll be working for an idiot…

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Dangerman  Jan 2, 2022 • 4:25:07am

re: #76 Targetpractice

Continuing the theme that Biden is repeating Obama’s presidency, now we’re on to the “Progressives are restless, may try a primary challenge” portion of the script.

FFS

Less than 1 year in

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Dangerman  Jan 2, 2022 • 4:27:13am

re: #82 ckkatz

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Self awareness, not her thing?

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Dangerman  Jan 2, 2022 • 4:34:43am

re: #84 ckkatz

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“Cawthorn is a Matt Gaetz wanna-be, with all the charm of Marjorie Taylor Green, the intellectual firepower of Paul Gosar, and the legislative skill of Jim Jordan, screaming look at me.”

I stole this

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Nojay UK  Jan 2, 2022 • 4:39:50am

re: #111 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Farmers everywhere, apart from maybe subsistence farmers digging at the ground with a stick, have always been businessmen (and women too, often enough). They hopefully grow more food than they need and trade the surplus for other things they don’t have. They employ labour when needed, rent properties, purchase services and so on.

Someone I used to know was the last farming member of a Lincolnshire family which had grown grain for over 150 years in England. According to the farm’s accounting books (another sign a farm is a business) they had never actually owned all the land they farmed at any time, it having been mortgaged or rented or used as security for bank loans for the entire period. In the good decades they cleared off some of the debt, in the bad years they accumulated more, that’s all.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 2, 2022 • 5:04:29am
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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2022 • 5:05:08am

re: #116 Nojay UK

Farmers everywhere, apart from maybe subsistence farmers digging at the ground with a stick, have always been businessmen (and women too, often enough). They hopefully grow more food than they need and trade the surplus for other things they don’t have. They employ labour when needed, rent properties, purchase services and so on.

Someone I used to know was the last farming member of a Lincolnshire family which had grown grain for over 150 years in England. According to the farm’s accounting books (another sign a farm is a business) they had never actually owned all the land they farmed at any time, it having been mortgaged or rented or used as security for bank loans for the entire period. In the good decades they cleared off some of the debt, in the bad years they accumulated more, that’s all.

In the early 80s, farmers, particularly egg producers, led the way in turning personal computers from hobbyist toys into workaday tools. Canadian Hutterites (think Amish who love electricity) were noteworthy early adapters on their large communal farms.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 2, 2022 • 5:08:55am

re: #117 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

A lovely example of how he takes a simple melody and musical theme and fills it out.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2022 • 5:16:26am

Our low last night was 73. Our predicted high is 74. Then a front is coming through.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 2, 2022 • 5:18:15am

re: #120 Decatur Deb

Our low last night was 73. Our predicted high is 74. Then a front is coming through.

Current air temperature: -20 °F, -28.9 C.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2022 • 5:20:19am

re: #121 Dopamine Fish

Unseasonably mild mid-50’s on the Rhine, supposed to get closer to January average next week but no daytime freezing temperatures until next week.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 2, 2022 • 5:21:02am

Current Conditions in Philly:
weather.gov

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jeffreyw  Jan 2, 2022 • 5:41:22am

Good morning!

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 2, 2022 • 5:49:16am
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No Malarkey!  Jan 2, 2022 • 5:55:59am

Russia has been ravaged by Covid.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2022 • 6:00:09am

re: #126 No Malarkey!

Russia has been ravaged by Covid.

again, shows that actual cases are up to 3x the official reports…

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2022 • 6:02:40am

re: #127 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and those are the official stats. Real cases up to 3x higher…

Visions of an increasingly weak Russia holding tight to its nuclear parity.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2022 • 6:04:39am

re: #128 Decatur Deb

Visions of an increasingly weak Russia holding tight to its nuclear parity.

The country’s health care system was already a shambles before Covid and in no state to cope with a pandemic.

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Teukka  Jan 2, 2022 • 6:05:33am

re: #125 DodgerFan1988

G-d friggin’ grief…

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Teukka  Jan 2, 2022 • 6:11:50am

re: #126 No Malarkey!

Russia has been ravaged by Covid.

re: #127 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

again, shows that actual cases are up to 3x the official reports…

re: #128 Decatur Deb

Visions of an increasingly weak Russia holding tight to its nuclear parity.

re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The country’s health care system was already a shambles before Covid and in no state to cope with a pandemic.

So I’m calling it, ‘20-‘21-‘22 is a trilogy (at least). Wish I was /S….

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 2, 2022 • 6:18:11am

re: #131 Teukka

If you look back in history that is about the length of one of the old plague type waves that went through Europe.

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Teukka  Jan 2, 2022 • 6:19:56am

re: #132 PhillyPretzel

If you look back in history that is about the length of one of the old plague type waves that went through Europe.

*cringe* Let’s hope the Crowned Bastard TM doesn’t reach parity wrt mortality…

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 2, 2022 • 6:20:37am

re: #133 Teukka

Amen.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 2, 2022 • 6:28:01am

re: #90 Dread Pirate Ron

Rubin also has to point fingers at voters who still support Republicans despite what happened on January 6th. See VA gubernatorial race, for example.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 2, 2022 • 6:30:06am

re: #135 Patricia Kayden

Rubin also has to point fingers at voters who still support Republicans despite what happened on January 6th. See VA gubernatorial race, for example.

Most voters are unaware that the GOP represents an existential threat to Democracy, because the mainstream media won’t tell them.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 2, 2022 • 6:31:18am
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No Malarkey!  Jan 2, 2022 • 6:41:22am

re: #137 No Malarkey!

Just for comparison Mississippi, a state with fewer than 3 million people, has 656 people hospitalized with Covid, more than twice the total in Puerto Rico.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 2, 2022 • 6:53:29am

Finally, I hope.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 2, 2022 • 6:54:16am

re: #139 No Malarkey!

Finally, I hope.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 2, 2022 • 6:56:07am

re: #139 No Malarkey!

Finally, I hope.

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I reported that one (along with probably 12,000 other people).

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No Malarkey!  Jan 2, 2022 • 6:56:31am
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:03:29am
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:06:14am

re: #139 No Malarkey!

Great way to start the New Year!

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No Malarkey!  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:07:32am

re: #143 Patricia Kayden

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:18:53am

re: #110 Targetpractice

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The two largest ethnic groups in TX are non-hispanic whites and hispanics. Neither has a majority, but unless you can demonstrate that hispanics have the same attitude towards blacks, you have to find another explanation for Texas voters — this one is obsolete.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:20:03am

re: #136 No Malarkey!

But the media showed them in real time how the Right violently tried to overthrow a democratic election. We all saw that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:20:24am

re: #146 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

The two largest ethnic groups in TX are non-hispanic whites and hispanics. Neither has a majority, but unless you can demonstrate that hispanics have the same attitude towards blacks, you have to find another explanation for Texas voters — this one is obsolete.

Hispanics know what it is like to be treated as second-class citizens.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:22:28am

re: #147 Patricia Kayden

But the media showed them in real time how the Right violently tried to overthrow a democratic election. We all saw that.

The media showed it but at the same time advanced and perpetuated every explanation of what happed from Antifa/FBI/Deep State false flag to “just tourists” or “good people caught up the excitement of the moment”, etc. instead of the Blatantly Obvious one.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:23:17am

re: #147 Patricia Kayden

But the media showed them in real time how the Right violently tried to overthrow a democratic election. We all saw that.

We saw it. Most voters were watching reality TV instead.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:25:24am

re: #125 DodgerFan1988

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:26:50am

re: #151 Patricia Kayden

They got that one backward.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:27:32am

re: #124 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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No Malarkey!  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:33:06am

re: #152 PhillyPretzel

They got that one backward.

Yep, its the Nazis who think that the weak should die for the greater good.

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Renaissance_Man  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:38:13am

re: #148 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Hispanics know what it is like to be treated as second-class citizens.

Sure, but that in itself won’t mean that Hispanics will vote against a white supremacist oligarchy.

This is a pattern that repeats all over the world and throughout history. Human societies are just fine with fascism and oligarchy. They’re just fine with there being second and third class citizens, as long as they think that there are castes beneath them. They don’t empathise with the lower castes, they gleefully kick them just as hard, grateful that there’s somebody worse off than them.

I say this all the time - demographic change will not doom the GOP. While FOX News and Facebook and Youtube exist, the demographics you think will naturally vote against white supremacist fascists will instead be converted. They will happily support fascism, or hold their nose and support fascism, or rationalise their support for fascism, as long as they are convinced that there’s someone else they can hate.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:42:53am

re: #148 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I find the terms “Latino” and “Hispanic” to be a little odd since they do not refer to race. If I remember correctly, Spanish, Portuguese, Latin Americans, Haiti, Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic, etc., all fit within the categories of Latino. I wonder if all Latinos/Hispanics can really be said to know what it means to be a second-class citizen when many are what we would describe as White. Many of the Latinos I know personally identify as White.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:48:53am

re: #156 Patricia Kayden

I find the terms “Latino” and “Hispanic” to be a little odd since they do not refer to race. If I remember correctly, Spanish, Portuguese, Latin Americans, Haiti, Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic, etc., all fit within the categories of Latino. I wonder if all Latinos/Hispanics can really be said to know what it means to be a second-class citizen when many are what we would describe as White. Many of the Latinos I know personally identify as White.

The majority of Mexicans I worked with identified as MEXICAN. They did not appreciate being lumped into the larger Latino/Hispanic grouping and would not hesitate in letting you know it.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:55:41am

re: #157 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

The majority of Mexicans I worked with identified as MEXICAN. They did not appreciate being lumped into the larger Latino/Hispanic grouping and would not hesitate in letting you know it.

Guy who ran the Puerto Rican restaurant here was loudly pro-Trump.

“He’s trying to keep out the Mexicans.”

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lawhawk  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:06:26am

re: #144 Patricia Kayden

All of her accounts should be frozen/suspended. She violates the Twitter TOS, and has done so repeatedly. Using multiple accounts to circumvent a suspension is itself grounds for suspension and permanent ban.

This is a long overdue move. Her feed has been rife with nonsensical ravings of a lunatic mind on covid antivax and misinformation.

More of this.

Of course, right wingers are caterwauling about how this is suppressing speech. No one is entitled to a platform to speak. Go stand on a street corner. Government isn’t involved here - a private business decision and agreement violated when you sign up that you abide by the TOS. She broke the rules, but right wingers consistently take position rules don’t apply to them, they aren’t responsible for their actions, and never held to account for their actions.

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darthstar  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:08:52am

re: #159 lawhawk

I looked at her official account. It’s all boilerplate political stuff. She seems to keep her conspiracy crap to her personal account. If she does use it for spreading anti-vax garbage, kill that account too.

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darthstar  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:10:45am

Expect to see her fund raise off her suspension…actually, expect to see a bunch of those grifters fund raise off her suspension.

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:15:36am

re: #139 No Malarkey!

Finally, I hope.

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We should have reported Rubio’s idiotic tweet that was basically the same thing.

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darthstar  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:18:14am

She’s whining over on the racist platform.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:21:18am

re: #158 Decatur Deb

Guy who ran the Puerto Rican restaurant here was loudly pro-Trump.

“He’s trying to keep out the Mexicans.”

I listened to a podcast interview with Aida Rodriguez last week. She’s a successful comedian/actor whose mother is Puerto Rican and father Dominican. She talked about some of the weird stuff she wasn’t prepared for when she found out her largely absent father was Dominican—mostly from Puerto Ricans. I wish she had gone further into it, but the interview was more about her career. I learned long ago that the Spanish created many social castes based on amount of Spanish/native/African/Anglo “blood” one had, but I don’t know how far reaching that legacy is today. I guess it’s still having some influence? Anyway, white mainstream Democrats have too long taken minority groups that voted D in the past for granted (just as they did the Catholic vote for a time).

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Dangerman  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:22:31am

re: #161 darthstar

Expect to see her fund raise off her suspension…actually, expect to see a bunch of those grifters fund raise off her suspension.

twitter is ubiquitous and mainstream - that’s why at least for now it’s hard for another platform to truly compete.
so when a whacko loses twitter they are de facto silenced to a great extent

sure trump makes his ‘official proclamations and someone else tweets them, but compare that to 20-30 insane tweets from him a day, every day. mostly no one’s paying attention

i care less about the fundraising and grift - if idiots want to part with their $…
i do care about them flouting the fundraising rules, but that’s another matter

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:22:48am
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darthstar  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:24:12am

re: #165 Dangerman

He doesn’t have the millions of eyes he used to either.

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:24:45am

29° around here. I hope it kills off the damn mosquitoes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:25:00am

re: #154 No Malarkey!

Yep, its the Nazis who think that the weak should die for the greater good.

“Fascism” is the term I apply to everything I disagree with unless it is government spending, then it’s “Communism”.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:25:10am

re: #163 darthstar

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No Malarkey!  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:25:41am

Biden is doing an outstanding job of nominating and getting confirmed a diverse, progressive crop of judges. That needs to continue this year, because if the GOP regains control of the Senate, Biden won’t get a single other judge confirmed his next two years. That’s why its critical for Breyer to retire before the midterms. slate.com

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:26:30am

A continuing theme of conservatives lying to each other.

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:29:43am
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Belafon  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:30:15am

re: #146 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

The two largest ethnic groups in TX are non-hispanic whites and hispanics. Neither has a majority, but unless you can demonstrate that hispanics have the same attitude towards blacks, you have to find another explanation for Texas voters — this one is obsolete.

The answer is that Hispanic whites vote like non-Hispanic whites and for the same reasons. So, yes, it still holds.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:33:50am
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Dangerman  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:37:15am

re: #171 No Malarkey!

Biden is doing an outstanding job of nominating and getting confirmed a diverse, progressive crop of judges. That needs to continue this year, because if the GOP regains control of the Senate, Biden won’t get a single other judge confirmed his next two years. That’s why its critical for Breyer to retire before the midterms. slate.com

Yesterday’s electoral-vote.com

The Supreme Court, of course, is currently dominated by Republican appointees. However, the Supreme Court also hears less than 200 cases per year, and often closer to 100.

By contrast, the rest of the federal court system hears about 400,000 cases per year. And the non-SCOTUS federal judges are about 52% Democratic appointees right now, with the number headed to about 55% in the near future. So, even if Democratic appointees are not deciding the “glamour” cases, they are deciding a disproportionate percentage of the overall federal caseload.

And Biden’s got a lot of those confirmed:

The result is that in his first year in office, Joe Biden has already seen 40 judges approved, more than any other president, including Trump (19), Obama (13), George W. Bush, or Bill Clinton (both 28). And the folks Biden is getting approved are delighting progressives (see here and here for examples), in part because of the appointees’ diversity, and in part because of their lefty politics. Biden has been particularly successful in filling slots on the appeals courts—11 so far—which decide far more cases than the Supreme Court does, even if those decisions are not precedent-setting outside of their circuits.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:37:35am

re: #109 ckkatz

You will get _no_ argument from me.

But for the life of me, I do not understand why the folks that matter, a plurality of Texas voters, are completely fine with this.

Texas does its best to make it difficult to vote and to terrify people of color from voting. After all, Crystal Mason was sentenced to 5 years in prison because she mistakenly cast a provisional ballot thinking that she was eligible to vote. Texas does everything possible to place barriers to obstruct voting and they are at it again with new restrictions they just implemented. Too many people voted in 2020 and they are trying to prevent that from happening again.

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:42:13am

re: #175 No Malarkey!

This one makes a different point but still relevant:

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:48:36am
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Belafon  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:51:11am
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ckkatz  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:51:32am

Prediction on mtg’s twitter banning:

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ckkatz  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:54:00am

Celestial tech support:

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ckkatz  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:02:17am

Since I apparently killed the thread, one more:

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:09:35am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:11:37am

boofuckinghoo

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:15:21am
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jaunte  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:16:58am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:20:01am
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ckkatz  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:22:34am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:22:36am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:27:10am
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Belafon  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:27:19am
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PhillyPretzel  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:27:46am

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

Liz is absolutely correct. DT will if he has not already killed the GOP.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:30:18am
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Barefoot Grin  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:30:21am

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Incoherence over economic policy, hell basically any policies, is not disqualifying for the GOP. For Walker it can only help.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:30:57am
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Belafon  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:32:07am

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

Her Twitter bio now:

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(((Archangel1)))  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:32:33am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:33:03am
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PhillyPretzel  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:33:20am

re: #197 Belafon

Ahh. Using what is given as a weapon.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:35:24am

I’m sure MTG will find a proxy to tweet her BS, much like TFG is doing.

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:37:34am

How incompetent is Greg Abbott? Here’s an example of his neglect that helps quantify it:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:38:41am
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jaunte  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:38:52am

If you ever doubt that conservatives are fanatics, consider how many people they’re willing to kill for their political and economic theories.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:41:22am
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Belafon  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:42:17am

Was it the mailman?

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(((Archangel1)))  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:44:01am

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:45:27am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:45:33am

re: #206 Belafon

Was it the mailman?

Or unvaxxed occupants?

Either way, Covid has officially hit all 7 continents.

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:46:06am

High filtration mask thread:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:55:35am
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Belafon  Jan 2, 2022 • 10:00:02am
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Belafon  Jan 2, 2022 • 10:01:58am
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Sherlock Hound  Jan 2, 2022 • 10:02:28am

re: #13 Barefoot Grin

Sometimes I feel like the Biden comms people are like Sister Mary Elephant and the American people are the “class.”

“Now, give me that gun!”

BLAM!

“Thank-yewwww!”

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ckkatz  Jan 2, 2022 • 10:04:27am

Don’t remember this being posted on lgf. If it already has been, my apologies:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2022 • 10:11:00am

Brunch time…

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 2, 2022 • 10:14:26am

re: #216 Eclectic Cyborg

I have banana bread currently in the oven. Picture in about 20 minutes.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 2, 2022 • 10:20:06am

Glenn is ok with Peter Thiel, the guy who wants to destroy democracy. It’s those other tech titans, tho….

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gocart mozart  Jan 2, 2022 • 10:27:14am
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Eventual Carrion  Jan 2, 2022 • 10:29:59am

re: #218 Barefoot Grin

Glenn is ok with Peter Thiel, the guy who wants to destroy democracy. It’s those other tech titans, tho….

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Hey Glenn, I guess they are going to have to bake their own fucking cake.

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steve_davis  Jan 2, 2022 • 10:48:27am

re: #98 ckkatz

Ketamine is used to sedate intubated patients. (Ie patients on ventilators).

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.
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ashp.org

of course ketamine is in short supply. dexter still has two more episodes in the first season. man’s gotta work!

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steve_davis  Jan 2, 2022 • 10:57:04am

re: #126 No Malarkey!

Russia has been ravaged by Covid.

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is it possible this is by design? As I recall, Russia has an enormous number of old people drawing pensions. Maybe eliminating the elderly is a feature here.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 2, 2022 • 11:45:43am

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Florida Panhandler  Jan 2, 2022 • 1:17:54pm

re: #218 Barefoot Grin

Glenn is ok with Peter Thiel, the guy who wants to destroy democracy. It’s those other tech titans, tho….

‘Unelected Tech Oligarchs” … Glenn means CEO’s.

CEO’s. You know… the guys that every real Republican businessman is supposed to emulate and wish to be. The man in charge (and I do mean Man in the gender sense to Republicans) who is supposed to be completely free from government interference and proceed with whatever policy he thinks will bring in the most revenue and profits for the most important shareholders.

Whatever Glenn may think he himself, he is actually an enabler of those who want to kill everyone not exactly like themselves and exterminate gay people just like Glenn Greenwald.

Whatever Glenn Greenwald was before 10 years ago, he has now been exposed as nothing but a plain, old boring psychopath.


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