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jaunte  Jan 5, 2022 • 11:39:21am
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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2022 • 11:40:06am

re: #1 jaunte

So true.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 5, 2022 • 11:40:29am

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2022 • 11:41:01am

re: #2 PhillyPretzel

Claire McCaskill’s tweet on the last thread comes to mind.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2022 • 11:42:37am

2 minute warning?

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 5, 2022 • 11:43:45am

re: #1 jaunte

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Republicans would tell you that this is why we need to make America Christian again.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 5, 2022 • 11:44:08am
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jaunte  Jan 5, 2022 • 11:44:29am

re: #6 Dopamine Fish

227 years go, they spelled ‘ethical’ differently.

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gocart mozart  Jan 5, 2022 • 11:44:39am
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No Malarkey!  Jan 5, 2022 • 11:44:47am
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No Malarkey!  Jan 5, 2022 • 11:46:08am

re: #6 Dopamine Fish

Republicans would tell you that this is why we need to make America Christian again.

And as they demonstrate on a daily basis, “Christian” and “moral” are not synonymous.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 5, 2022 • 11:46:39am
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EstebanTornado1963  Jan 5, 2022 • 11:46:48am

Ratio this tough guy

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mmmirele  Jan 5, 2022 • 11:48:51am

In line with that, I have an update on my request for an accommodation at work, and Charles is absolutely on to something.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 5, 2022 • 11:50:31am

re: #14 mmmirele

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 5, 2022 • 11:51:45am

re: #15 Eclectic Cyborg

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Charles Johnson  Jan 5, 2022 • 11:53:04am

Garland isn’t going to say anything newsworthy.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 5, 2022 • 11:53:26am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

Garland isn’t going to say anything newsworthy.

My shocked face, etc.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 5, 2022 • 11:55:23am
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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2022 • 11:55:59am

Well, there’s subtext:

We’re trying lesser crimes first, and imposing sentences against those folks first before going after the more serious crimes, and even with the lesser sentences, we’re seeing significant sentences.

He’s not tipping his hand about going directly at Trumpworld.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2022 • 11:57:54am

re: #20 lawhawk

He is keeping his cards close to his vest.

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mmmirele  Jan 5, 2022 • 11:59:17am

re: #15 Eclectic Cyborg

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 11:59:29am

re: #21 PhillyPretzel

He is keeping his cards close to his vest.

I think saying the law applies to everyone is preparing us for the arrests of high-ranking criminal politicians.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:00:13pm

re: #23 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Yes.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:02:33pm

Garland said some of the right things about holding the powerful to account. So I’m being told on Twitter I should just sit and wait because these things take time. I don’t find this very reassuring, with America’s history. I hope this time will be different, but I’m not expecting it.

Sorry if that makes me a downer, but it’s honest.

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:02:56pm

“linkages to less overt [crimes]”

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ipsos  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:04:16pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

Garland said some of the right things about holding the powerful to account. So I’m being told on Twitter I should just sit and wait because these things take time. I don’t find this very reassuring, with America’s history. I hope this time will be different, but I’m not expecting it.

Sorry if that makes me a downer, but it’s honest.

He’s the definition of an institutionalist, which would have been awesome at other times in history (e.g. after Watergate)

He’s the wrong person for the job right now, though, when the clock is ticking to the 2022 midterms and the possibility that all of the investigations will be shut down for good. We need more of a firebrand right now, I fear.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:05:35pm

We’ve produced a lot of violent, deranged, morons who live in fantasy-worlds.

Southern California man was arrested after he recently attacked workers at a coronavirus vaccination clinic, allegedly calling them “murderers” and falsely accusing the staffers of causing the covid pandemic, according to police and clinic officials.

Two staff members with Families Together of Orange County were injured in a Dec. 30 attack on the group’s mobile clinic in Tustin, Calif., the organization said in a news release Wednesday. Families Together said one of the members “sustained serious injuries and was sent to the hospital in an ambulance” but that both workers “are expected to make a full recovery within a few days.”

“We are thankful for our team’s bravery, strength and resilience,” the group wrote. “Despite the violent nature of the assault, Families Together kept offering vaccines and boosters to patients that day and the team was fully back at work the following week.”

Thomas Apollo, 43, entered the clinic maskless last week and accused workers of being “murderers” who are “making people sick” before he started throwing punches at staffers, Parsia Jahanbani, mobile operations manager for Families Together, told the Orange County Register. Jahanbani recounted to the Los Angeles Times that it took multiple people at the clinic to pry Apollo away from a medical assistant he was beating up and that seven police officers were needed to restrain the man over about 15 minutes.

Man arrested on charges of attacking vaccination clinic, injuring staffers he called ‘murderers’ (WaPo via MSN)

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:05:41pm

re: #27 ipsos

That is why we still have to GOTV for every election.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:05:45pm

RE: Governor Abbott’s latest dipshittery regarding the TX National Guard:

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:06:32pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

Garland said some of the right things about holding the powerful to account. So I’m being told on Twitter I should just sit and wait because these things take time. I don’t find this very reassuring, with America’s history. I hope this time will be different, but I’m not expecting it.

Sorry if that makes me a downer, but it’s honest.

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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:06:33pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

Overt crimes linking to more obscure ones. Some of Trump’s crimes were absolutely open and overt (where he was essentially bragging about doing the crimes)- so that diminishes the statement that all will be held to account.

The political timeline and the criminal justice timeline do not match up at all, and the political timeline is far more relevant as it can ultimately thwart any DOJ action against anyone in Trumpworld if Trump or his allies gain power in 2024 - because they can hamstring investigations, derail them outright, and if Trump or his allies retake the WH, issue outright pardons to all of them for their misconduct.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:07:25pm

re: #32 lawhawk

Overt crimes linking to more obscure ones. Some of Trump’s crimes were absolutely open and overt (where he was essentially bragging about doing the crimes)- so that diminishes the statement that all will be held to account.

The political timeline and the criminal justice timeline do not match up at all, and the political timeline is far more relevant as it can ultimately thwart any DOJ action against anyone in Trumpworld if Trump or his allies gain power in 2024 - because they can hamstring investigations, derail them outright, and if Trump or his allies retake the WH, issue outright pardons to all of them for their misconduct.

Yep, all of this.

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:10:15pm
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EstebanTornado1963  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:10:53pm

People expecting garland to say we’re going to drag trump to jail, are setting themselves up for disappointment. The problems run much deeper than that. We need to fight from the bottom up, from school board meeting to city council members who are fucking things up at a local level, etc. Nobody is going to ride in on a white horse and rescue us, we need to do it ourselves.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:12:01pm

re: #23 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Republicans: Like Hillary Clinton.

It’s odd how fixated they are with someone they beat. She still lives rent free in their nightmares.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:12:21pm

re: #35 EstebanTornado1963

So true. It has to be cleaned from the grassroots level and to the White House.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:13:40pm

Ugh. He Bothsides it.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:13:55pm

re: #36 Patricia Kayden

Republicans: Like Hillary Clinton.

It’s odd how fixated they are with someone they beat. She still lives rent free in their nightmares.

She’s a woman who’s smarter than any Conservative man. They do not care for that sort of thing.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:14:10pm

re: #22 mmmirele

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EstebanTornado1963  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:14:38pm
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Dangerman  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:15:39pm

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:15:49pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

Ugh. He Bothsides it.

Sounding political before all the evidence is documented would have been a bad approach. He has to sound like non-political law-enforcement that will catch criminal politicians. Right now, that’s Republicans, but you can’t just say so as head of law enforcement.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:17:07pm

re: #40 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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No Malarkey!  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:17:46pm

re: #27 ipsos

He’s the definition of an institutionalist, which would have been awesome at other times in history (e.g. after Watergate)

He’s the wrong person for the job right now, though, when the clock is ticking to the 2022 midterms and the possibility that all of the investigations will be shut down for good. We need more of a firebrand right now, I fear.

Congress can’t shut down an investigation being conducted by the DOJ.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:19:21pm

re: #45 No Malarkey!

That’s comforting to know.

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:26:11pm

re: #27 ipsos

He’s the definition of an institutionalist, which would have been awesome at other times in history (e.g. after Watergate)

He’s the wrong person for the job right now, though, when the clock is ticking to the 2022 midterms and the possibility that all of the investigations will be shut down for good. We need more of a firebrand right now, I fear.

Didn’t the Watergate investigation take multiple years to get finished?

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:27:36pm

re: #47 Belafon

yes

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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:28:37pm

re: #47 Belafon

It took 2+ years, but that was for a fraction of the criminal misconduct we know to have occurred just in relation to 1/6 itself. That’s not counting the election fraud, interfering in federal election certifications, obstruction of justice, and all the rest.

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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:29:23pm
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No Malarkey!  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:29:29pm

re: #40 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Charles Johnson  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:32:44pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:38:19pm

re: #44 Punish Domestic Terrorists

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:42:39pm

re: #28 Punish Domestic Terrorists

We’ve produced a lot of violent, deranged, morons who live in fantasy-worlds.

Man arrested on charges of attacking vaccination clinic, injuring staffers he called ‘murderers’ (WaPo via MSN)

The neo-Nazi news media is still pushing the narrative that it’s unauthorized immigrants from south of the border who are bringing the disease here and sickening Americans and not unvaccinated Americans who are responsible for the surge in disease. The people I know are deranged, morons but they haven’t yet turned violent. OTOH, they are very likely to vote for those who are willing to use violence against those who don’t support their orange messiah.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:50:24pm

re: #36 Patricia Kayden

Republicans: Like Hillary Clinton.

It’s odd how fixated they are with someone they beat. She still lives rent free in their nightmares.

Clinton’s name is still valuable to them as a rallying point for the conservative fascist outrage.

Know people who have been hit by Covid and are pretty damn upset about being lied to about it. But they are still ranting about Hilary so I know that there has been no real conversion or questioning of what the GOP and FOX has been telling them and continues to spout at them.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:53:48pm

re: #43 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Sounding political before all the evidence is documented would have been a bad approach. He has to sound like non-political law-enforcement that will catch criminal politicians. Right now, that’s Republicans, but you can’t just say so as head of law enforcement.

There’s also a point where being non-political in the face of multiple years of the DOJ *being* political and a lot of one-sided abuse makes people think that nothing will be done beyond hand-wringing and expressing “concern”. Because both parties are the same with different labels and there is no interest in really fixing things or addressing the issues.

(Tossing a bunch of low-level fools into the clink for a few years may look nice, but it’s decoration.)

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:56:29pm

I did appreciate Garland throwing some shade at Roberts over gutting the ‘65 VRA. But, it may be too little too late (not Garland’s fault). A large number of House Dems are retiring this year for a variety of reasons, but mostly, it seems, because they’re likely being gerrymandered out of competitive seats. So, yeah, to my small brain lawhawk’s observation of the lag between political events and DoJ actions is really worrying. Anyway, I think this was in a sense a political speech in that tomorrow’s commemorative events (that the GOP apparently won’t take part in) to be successful needed today’s speech as a foregrounding, an anchoring.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 12:58:21pm

re: #55 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Clinton’s name is still valuable to them as a rallying point for the conservative fascist outrage.

Know people who have been hit by Covid and are pretty damn upset about being lied to about it. But they are still ranting about Hilary so I know that there has been no real conversion or questioning of what the GOP and FOX has been telling them and continues to spout at them.

Right-wing idiots are never going to smarten up.
The Republican Party’s Image Has Recovered From the Fallout of Jan. 6 (Morning Consult)

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:01:05pm

I was thinking this, too. If Trump somehow wins in ‘24 Hannity will have to begin each show eating a big turd out of a MAGA hat.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:02:08pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:02:11pm

re: #59 Barefoot Grin

Hannity would do that gladly since he lives to please his lord and savior Trump.

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aatharuv  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:02:56pm

re: #1 jaunte

And the Republican party, in their quest to police people’s morality, by their standards has forgotten what the greatest of the founding fathers said, “Mind Your Business”

Fugio Cent - Mind Your Business

This pattern coin, which was actually designed by Benjamin Franklin, who probably meant, “pay attention to _your_ affairs”.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:03:50pm

Hubs just got his booster. I feel significantly better already.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:06:03pm

re: #63 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Hubs just got his booster. I feel significantly better already.

Normal people feel better when protected. Abnormal people try “treatments” to remove the vaccine so they don’t have to live with having their lives saved.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:07:23pm
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:08:57pm

re: #65 Patricia Kayden

This is America! That toddler has rights!

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aatharuv  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:10:24pm

re: #65 Patricia Kayden

A _Toddler_ has shot a person every week for the past two years???
There is something seriously wrong with our country if gun-owning parents are so incompetent at parenting and gun-safety so as to keep their guns in a place where toddlers (who in my personal experience are very good at getting things they can reach) can get access to them.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:10:51pm
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prairiefire  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:11:55pm

My former right wing doctor has gone completely off the rails. Karladine Graves, check her out, she’s all over the place with her chicanery. I heard in late December she and her husband caught Covid. It’s assumed at the Healing America Medical symposium. She’s in tight with Corsi and claims she partially responsible for Trump’s Hydr. “Protocol “.
Missouri, winning again🙄

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:13:31pm

re: #63 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Hubs just got his booster. I feel significantly better already.

Our youngest finally got his booster this morning also. Now all kids are vaxed and boosted.

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:14:06pm
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jaunte  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:15:34pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:18:05pm
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Eventual Carrion  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:18:29pm

re: #72 jaunte

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Yes, he does seem to be having some difficulty.

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calochortus  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:20:25pm

re: #70 Eventual Carrion

Our youngest finally got his booster this morning also. Now all kids are vaxed and boosted.

Congrats! The grandkids are too young for vaccination. Boo. Hiss.
They just keep moving the date out further and further (although there is a chance Moderna will be available in a couple months.)
What is incredibly annoying is that Pfizer apparently found their test dose of vaccine was effective for 6 mo. to 2 years and they won’t put it in for approval because they haven’t found the dose for 2-5 year olds. So, we just won’t worry about the really young ones because they have to go in order of descending age as though it was being in line for the throne or marrying off your kids by seniority or something? Help me out here.

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Mattand  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:23:11pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

Garland said some of the right things about holding the powerful to account. So I’m being told on Twitter I should just sit and wait because these things take time. I don’t find this very reassuring, with America’s history. I hope this time will be different, but I’m not expecting it.

Sorry if that makes me a downer, but it’s honest.

It’s called being a realist.

The story I heard about Garland being Obama’s nominee was that McConnell thought Obama would never pick Garland, because he was too middle of the road.

Obama, being Obama, went with Garland. Which then caused McConnell to decry Garland as Abbie Hoffman reincarnate.

Point being, if McConnell was initially okay with Garland before Obama nominated him, it kinda implies that Garland wasn’t a boat rocker would probably rule against Dems as often as he would the GOP.

Which, given the lack of urgency around, oh, I don’t know, fucking charging Trump with trying to destroy the Constitution and murder his VP and Congress with a mob of mouth breathing MAGAts, says to me that Garland will get to it when he gets to it.

And if the Republicans take over Congress next year? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:23:49pm

“…one thing that Donald Trump and Trumpism represent is a kind of intellectual debauchery, that attempts to overthrow any limits on what — critical caveat! — right wing maniacs such as, um, Donald Trump say in public.”

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:26:50pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:32:00pm

Lake Tahoe

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retired cynic  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:33:04pm

Recap: January 4, 2022
stonekettle.com

It’ll be interesting to see what he has to say.
— Mitch McConnell, January 4, 2022

Interesting.

That’s a word Mitch McConnell uses a lot. Interesting.

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ckkatz  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:33:49pm

The DC area just went through a winter fiasco. And guess what? We get to do it again!

Winter weather advisory issued for snow and slick roads on Thursday night
washingtonpost.com

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:36:15pm

re: #81 ckkatz

And Philly is going to do it again too:
forecast.weather.gov

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:36:45pm

re: #81 ckkatz

The DC area just went through a winter fiasco. And guess what? We get to do it again!

Winter weather advisory issued for snow and slick roads on Thursday night
washingtonpost.com

We’re just finishing up our snow, and are headed into a round of bitter cold. Our snow came with a side helping of 40 mph wind gusts, which actually helped - my driveway and sidewalk were remarkably clean this morning.

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retired cynic  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:38:12pm

A 717 gigapixel image of Rembrandt’s The Night Watchmen, where you can zoom in, and in, and in, and in…
ULTRA HOGE RESOLUTIE FOTO
Uit de serie Operatie Nachtwacht
Nachtwacht, Schutters van wijk II onder leiding van kapitein Frans Banninck Cocq, Rembrandt van Rijn, 1642
rijksmuseum.nl

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:40:20pm
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Teddy's Person  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:41:08pm

re: #84 retired cynic

A 717 gigapixel image of Rembrandt’s The Night Watchmen, where you can zoom in, and in, and in, and in…
ULTRA HOGE RESOLUTIE FOTO
Uit de serie Operatie Nachtwacht
Nachtwacht, Schutters van wijk II onder leiding van kapitein Frans Banninck Cocq, Rembrandt van Rijn, 1642
rijksmuseum.nl

That’s amazing. Thanks for the link.

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ckkatz  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:43:53pm

re: #82 PhillyPretzel

And Philly is going to do it again too:
forecast.weather.gov

Growing up in Pittsburgh, it always seemed to me that Pennsylvania had a good northern mindset for winter weather. It wasn’t always elegant, but it got the job done.

I will say, though, that Virginia’s mindset on clearing snow and ice from the roads has improved, a bit, from “Let the sun melt it”.

The DC area seems to still fit that old description “A city with all the charm of a Northern City. And all the efficiency of a Southern one.”

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ckkatz  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:47:30pm

re: #83 Dopamine Fish

We’re just finishing up our snow, and are headed into a round of bitter cold. Our snow came with a side helping of 40 mph wind gusts, which actually helped - my driveway and sidewalk were remarkably clean this morning.

I can imagine how the local weather folks would talk about the weather that you handle routinely. In the last storm it seemed like the local forecast descriptions were “The Apocolypse”, “Armeggadon” and more simply “Run! Run! Flee for your lives!”.

(It wasn’t quite that bad. But still…)

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:48:36pm

re: #81 ckkatz

The DC area just went through a winter fiasco. And guess what? We get to do it again!

Winter weather advisory issued for snow and slick roads on Thursday night
washingtonpost.com

Which is simply a periodic happening for places like that and further south.

They don’t have winter weather events of that scale often enough to feel they need to spend the money to keep and maintain a sufficient stock of snow removal equipment and associated materials (salt, sand, whatever). So the city and highways get paralyzed for multiple days while they dig out. (IIRC, Atlanta got hit by 3-4” a few years ago and was out of commission.) And there is hand-wringing afterwards, followed by things not changing.

And I’d state that this doesn’t compare to the Texas power grid since roads being messed up is generally less dangerous to the public at large (stay at home and off the roads) as compared to a power failure which leads to people freezing to death at home itself.

I experienced the big Veterans’ Day snow storm in the DC area in 1987 (11.5”) first hand. Including getting stuck on I-95 for about seven hours.

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Captain Magic  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:48:40pm

re: #14 mmmirele

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ckkatz  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:49:56pm

re: #84 retired cynic

A 717 gigapixel image of Rembrandt’s The Night Watchmen, where you can zoom in, and in, and in, and in…
ULTRA HOGE RESOLUTIE FOTO
Uit de serie Operatie Nachtwacht
Nachtwacht, Schutters van wijk II onder leiding van kapitein Frans Banninck Cocq, Rembrandt van Rijn, 1642
rijksmuseum.nl

Really cool! Thanks for posting!

Kind of reminded me of this:

Amsterdam - Rembrandt Flashmob - The Night Watch - HD

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:50:04pm

re: #87 ckkatz

Growing up in Pittsburgh, it always seemed to me that Pennsylvania had a good northern mindset for winter weather. It wasn’t always elegant, but it got the job done.

I will say, though, that Virginia’s mindset on clearing snow and ice from the roads has improved, a bit, from “Let the sun melt it”.

The DC area seems to still fit that old description “A city with all the charm of a Northern City. And all the efficiency of a Southern one.”

I think Pittsburgh had to take it seriously in part due to the terrain. Lots of slopes that get dangerous if you leave them unplowed or allow them to get icy.

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ckkatz  Jan 5, 2022 • 1:56:51pm

re: #89 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I experienced the big Veterans’ Day snow storm in the DC area in 1987 (11.5”) first hand. Including getting stuck on I-95 for about seven hours.

Sorry to hear about you getting stuck on I-95. As you saw, it is still happening.

I remember the 1987 snow too.

I was working in Columbia, Maryland at the time. Everybody else in the office fled at the first snowflake. I waited for a couple of hours and then drove home. Past abandoned cars on deserted roads. It was quite surreal.

A couple of days later I was down in DC. Many of the streets there had not been cleared. Connecticut Ave in the Dupont Circle area had huge swaths of 6” deep ice.

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ckkatz  Jan 5, 2022 • 2:03:09pm

re: #92 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I think Pittsburgh had to take it seriously in part due to the terrain. Lots of slopes that get dangerous if you leave them unplowed or allow them to get icy.

Very true!

There are some techniques that are needed in Pittsburgh that I have never used elsewhere.

I was driving up a hilly road behind a VW bug. The traffic light turned red.

I noticed that the last bit of the road before the light was a huge ice patch. So I stopped well clear of the ice patch on clear road.

Sure enough, when the light turned green, the VW Bug (manual transmission) tried to go into gear and slid backwards down the ice patch until it caught the clear pavement and could stop.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 5, 2022 • 2:05:49pm

Just watched that Desantis clip and…wow.

Is it possible he’s actually not vaxxed?

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 2:09:55pm

re: #71 jaunte

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prairiefire  Jan 5, 2022 • 2:10:28pm

re: #75 calochortus

I honestly don’t know what I would do. It must be maddening with kiddos. My kids were sticky gummy worms that caught every hint of something in the air. They’ve outgrown that, phew.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 2:11:13pm

re: #95 Eclectic Cyborg

Just watched that Desantis clip and…wow.

Is it possible he’s actually not vaxxed?

It’s possible. We see again and again that the complete idiots that the Republicans exploited for decades have gotten entirely out of control, and are now in office themselves.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 5, 2022 • 2:12:04pm

re: #92 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I think Pittsburgh had to take it seriously in part due to the terrain. Lots of slopes that get dangerous if you leave them unplowed or allow them to get icy.

Yeah. You don’t want to come down from Mt. Washington on slippery roads.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 5, 2022 • 2:12:30pm

re: #99 Eventual Carrion

Yeah. You don’t want to come down from Mt. Washington on slippery roads.

My wife lived in Pittsburgh when I met her. She has some stories about that.

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Sinistershade  Jan 5, 2022 • 2:14:16pm

re: #95 Eclectic Cyborg

Just watched that Desantis clip and…wow.

Is it possible he’s actually not vaxxed?

At this point, it’s possible he’s not even wearing pants.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 2:15:23pm

re: #93 ckkatz

Sorry to hear about you getting stuck on I-95. As you saw, it is still happening.

I remember the 1987 snow too.

I was working in Columbia, Maryland at the time. Everybody else in the office fled at the first snowflake. I waited for a couple of hours and then drove home. Past abandoned cars on deserted roads. It was quite surreal.

A couple of days later I was down in DC. Many of the streets there had not been cleared. Connecticut Ave in the Dupont Circle area had huge swaths of 6” deep ice.

Here’s a nice positive story from the current disaster on I-95.

Casey Holihan and her husband, John Noe, had been stranded on Interstate 95 in Virginia for about 16 hours when they got an idea.

The couple spotted a Schmidt Baking Company truck just a few cars ahead of them about 9 a.m. Tuesday. At that point, they estimated, it had been approximately 37 hours since they had last eaten.

“We were starving,” said Holihan, 23, who at the time was at a standstill near Quantico. “People around us were very much struggling as well. We could hear kids crying.”

They decided to call Schmidt Baking Company in Baltimore in the hope that maybe it would be willing to offer whatever products were on the truck to hungry travelers. The couple knew it was a long shot, but they — and countless other people, some of whom were trapped on I-95 for close to 24 hours after snow and ice triggered an overnight shutdown — were desperate for food.

They reached the customer service line and left their phone number with a representative.

“I didn’t think it would actually work,” Holihan said.

What happened next stunned her: Just 20 minutes later, Chuck Paterakis, one of the owners of H&S Bakery, which operates Schmidt Baking Company, called the couple directly.

He advised them to go to the truck, then instructed the driver to offer up two products — one package of rolls and one loaf of bread — to any person who wanted them.

Drivers were stuck on I-95 when one saw a bakery truck. Soon, stranded motorists were breaking bread together. (WaPo via MSN)

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Mike Lamb  Jan 5, 2022 • 2:16:56pm

re: #84 retired cynic

A 717 gigapixel image of Rembrandt’s The Night Watchmen, where you can zoom in, and in, and in, and in…
ULTRA HOGE RESOLUTIE FOTO
Uit de serie Operatie Nachtwacht
Nachtwacht, Schutters van wijk II onder leiding van kapitein Frans Banninck Cocq, Rembrandt van Rijn, 1642
rijksmuseum.nl

My last international trip was to Amsterdam and London. We stopped at the Rijksmuseum and were fortunate to see the Night Watchmen in person as it was being re-furbished.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 5, 2022 • 2:17:17pm

re: #100 Eclectic Cyborg

My wife lived in Pittsburgh when I met her. She has some stories about that.

A few years back I was visiting a friend of mine that lived up Mt Washington. His neighbor a week or so before had slid off the road on ice and went down a 40 foot ravine. She lived but had some bad injuries. If it had happened a bit farther up the road she could have plunged about 100 feet. I say if it’s bad, take the incline and catch a bus at the bottom.

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Citizen K  Jan 5, 2022 • 2:20:14pm

re: #56 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

There’s also a point where being non-political in the face of multiple years of the DOJ *being* political and a lot of one-sided abuse makes people think that nothing will be done beyond hand-wringing and expressing “concern”. Because both parties are the same with different labels and there is no interest in really fixing things or addressing the issues.

(Tossing a bunch of low-level fools into the clink for a few years may look nice, but it’s decoration.)

I think this is where the crux of the matter lies. Folks are so used to the overt politicization of institutions at the hands of the GOP that they believe that’s how it should work. This feels especially the case of the media. All this in turn creates the self-fulfilling prophecy where lack of overt politically-motivated activity is politically bad, because people expect the fast, flashy, fashy movement meant to captivate but not actually be legally actionable. And for that…well…I have no fucking answer. Because as much as I understand the need to actually do the full due diligence rather than act half-assed for political gain, the problem is the half-assed action for political gain works, at least for what it’s meant to be. Look how Bill Bar’s transparent spin on the Mueller report completely defanged it, precisely because the media bought fully into it, and thus the public only heard that part.

The problem here is if we try to emulate that kind of movement, we don’t have your Fox Newses, Rush Limbaughs, Breitbarts, OANNs, etc. to run the bullshit screens for us and encourage the ‘legitimate’ media to run with it. Hell, ‘legitimate’ media already is primed to believe the worst-case scenario for Dems from anything that happened, does anyone believe that Garland going full bore political agent at the podium would do anything but result in all knives out for him, Biden, and the whole of Dems?

So…yeah. It’s just a damned if you do damned if you don’t situation, because the actual work takes time and lack of bombast, but we need the bombast and express action to even buy ourselves time to actually do the due diligence without it being stonewalled to death, and it’s just a full death spiral we can’t fight our way out of.

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ckkatz  Jan 5, 2022 • 2:23:23pm

re: #102 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I hadn’t heard the Schmidt Baking Company truck story. That is really sweet.

I had read that many Semi drivers keep some food in their cabs. So desperate parents were wandering along the road begging drivers for food and water to feed their children.

Somebody in VaDOT really porked the puppy on this one.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 2:29:24pm

Dying in agony seems to be some people’s primary goal in life. Sometimes you just have to let people attain their goals rather than stand in the way of their dream.

Candace Owens Says She Would Rather Die of Covid Than Take Covid Vaccine (Mediaite via MSN)

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ckkatz  Jan 5, 2022 • 2:30:12pm

re: #105 Citizen K

You make a good point.

That there are different mindsets and skill sets. Some are better suited for different tasks.

Garland, as I understand it, comes from a government judicial background. Where the judge is not supposed to be the center of the news story. Instead the case is supposed the central figure in the story.

Leadership, particularly political leadership may require more performative activity in order to motivate people and move things in a specific direction.

And theater is highly performative, with reduced substance. Which is generally what we had with tfg’s administration.

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ipsos  Jan 5, 2022 • 2:31:59pm

re: #107 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Dying in agony seems to be some people’s primary goal in life. Sometimes you just have to let people attain their goals rather than stand in the way of their dream.

Candace Owens Says She Would Rather Die of Covid Than Take Covid Vaccine (Mediaite via MSN)

Who are we to stand between a girl and her life goals? (Or end-of-life goals?)

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ckkatz  Jan 5, 2022 • 2:39:24pm

re: #108 ckkatz

For some reason, while discussing performative theater, I was reminded of this story:

Years ago, when I was in the Army, I mentioned to my father, (who was a World War 2 twice-wounded combat veteran), that the enlisted seem to complain a lot.

He went silent and got a far away look.

Then he turned to me and said to me “As long as they complain, it’s a good sign. If they ever get quiet, that’s a very bad sign. It means that they have decided to do something about their complaints.”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 5, 2022 • 2:39:30pm

re: #107 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Dying in agony seems to be some people’s primary goal in life. Sometimes you just have to let people attain their goals rather than stand in the way of their dream.

Candace Owens Says She Would Rather Die of Covid Than Take Covid Vaccine (Mediaite via MSN)

Terms are acceptable. Get on with it.

(except we all know she’s vaxxed)

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 2:41:02pm

re: #111 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Terms are acceptable. Get on with it.

(except we all know she’s vaxxed)

We know she’s hopelessly dishonest, but she seems to be stupid as well, and went off the deep end when Trump told her vaccines save lives. I suspect that she is not vaccinated.

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2022 • 2:41:28pm

re: #110 ckkatz

For some reason, while discussing performative theater, I was reminded of this story:

Years ago, when I was in the Army, I mentioned to my father, (who was a World War 2 twice-wounded combat veteran), that the enlisted seem to complain a lot.

He went silent and got a far away look.

Then he turned to me and said to me “As long as they complain, it’s a good sign. If they ever get quiet, that’s a very bad sign. It means that they have decided to do something about their complaints.”

Shortened to “A bitchin’ sailor is a happy sailor” from my Navy years.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 5, 2022 • 2:43:17pm

re: #109 ipsos

Who are we to stand between a girl and her life goals? (Or end-of-life goals?)

You break that glass ceiling, Candace!

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2022 • 2:44:02pm

re: #111 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

This the one thing I do not understand regarding the vaccine. Both Pfizer and Moderna are vaccines that are genetic code based. There is no dead or live virus in them. That actually makes them safer than a vaccine that has a bit of the virus in it like J & J. Are these folks so afraid of new technology that they are willing to die of the virus?

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2022 • 2:45:29pm

re: #115 PhillyPretzel

This the one thing I do not understand regarding the vaccine. Both Pfizer and Moderna are vaccines that are genetic code based. There is no dead or live virus in them. That actually makes them safer than a vaccine that has a bit of the virus in it like J & J. Are these folks so afraid of new technology that they are willing to die of the virus?

Haven’t you heard? mRNA based vaccines are genetic engineering that will change your cells. That’s how you become magnetic.

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ckkatz  Jan 5, 2022 • 2:45:45pm

re: #112 Punish Domestic Terrorists

We know she’s hopelessly dishonest, but she seems to be stupid as well, and went off the deep end when Trump told her vaccines save lives. I suspect that she is not vaccinated.

I agree that her grifting performative public personality is dishonest (and insincere). But I guess that I always thought it shallow rather than stupid. (Of course, I’m not ruling out stupid too.)

And, she really isn’t that good an actor. Certainly not of the quality we should expect on a national stage.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2022 • 2:46:20pm

re: #116 Belafon

I do not believe that baloney. Or even the 5G baloney.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 5, 2022 • 2:50:40pm

re: #118 PhillyPretzel

I do not believe that baloney. Or even the 5G baloney.

I keep hoping for better WiFi signals but, alas, no luck thus far.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2022 • 2:53:12pm

re: #119 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Same here. I have even asked my co-workers where is the interface? They could not answer me.

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garzooma  Jan 5, 2022 • 2:55:11pm

re: #115 PhillyPretzel

This the one thing I do not understand regarding the vaccine. Both Pfizer and Moderna are vaccines that are genetic code based. There is no dead or live virus in them. That actually makes them safer than a vaccine that has a bit of the virus in it like J & J. […]

AFAIK, J&J doesn’t have the SARS-CoV-2 virus in it either. It uses a different virus to make SARS-CoV-2 spike proteins.

See https://www.mayoclinic.org/johnson-johnson-adenovirus-vaccine-explained/vid-20510091

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2022 • 2:57:32pm

re: #121 garzooma

Alright something similar and the fact that it has been published in a reputable source (The Mayo Clinic) I will believe it. Most of this other crap I have read has not even been reviewed let alone edited.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 5, 2022 • 3:05:21pm

re: #95 Eclectic Cyborg

Just watched that Desantis clip and…wow.

Is it possible he’s actually not vaxxed?

That is difficult to believe. DeathSantis arranged to have the elderly affluent in Florida vaccinated when the vaccines were first available. It’s remotely possible that he isn’t boosted. Maybe his recent disappearance from the public stage was a breakthrough case.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 5, 2022 • 3:05:32pm

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 3:08:42pm

re: #120 PhillyPretzel

Same here. I have even asked my co-workers where is the interface? They could not answer me.

That sort of question is not appropriate at work. In most offices, discussing your reproductive/5G body parts is off-limits.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2022 • 3:12:53pm

re: #125 Punish Domestic Terrorists

That is okay. When the vaccine first came available practically almost everyone at work thought they would lose their life insurance if they got the shot. Fortunately our life insurance people who represent New York Life set them straight. That and I found an article in Forbes Magazine that also said the same thing.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2022 • 3:13:26pm

I was so fuckin’ busy today I’m three threads behind. It’s not often I sit down for a 9:30 call and then don’t leave my computer until 3pm. Not sure I’m wild about this professional responsibility bullshit…but I’ve got a chance of establishing a pretty good name for myself if I don’t fuck up and go down in flames.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 5, 2022 • 3:13:33pm

Well, fuck a duck. One of the guys who was at our weekend gaming session just told us he tested positive. I’ve got a rapid test decanting on the counter now. At least we all at the games had our shots, except for my dumbass best friend.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2022 • 3:15:47pm

re: #128 Dopamine Fish

Well, fuck a duck. One of the guys who was at our weekend gaming session just told us he tested positive. I’ve got a rapid test decanting on the counter now. At least we all at the games had our shots, except for my dumbass best friend.

Let’s hope he didn’t infect anyone in your group.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2022 • 3:16:20pm

I just got a text message from a restaurant I never heard of. Since I do not know them I blocked them.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 3:19:22pm

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austin_blue  Jan 5, 2022 • 3:22:22pm

re: #123 Hecuba’s daughter

That is difficult to believe. DeathSantis arranged to have the elderly affluent in Florida vaccinated when the vaccines were first available. It’s remotely possible that he isn’t boosted. Maybe his recent disappearance from the public stage was a breakthrough case.

If so, it appears he has had a Delta breakthrough, not Omicron.

I have read that Omicron is less likely, by 80% (!!) to efficiently reproduce in the lungs. DeathBoy is having real problems, there.

Good. I hope he ends up face down on a respirator. Serve him right.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 5, 2022 • 3:23:12pm
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No Malarkey!  Jan 5, 2022 • 3:25:49pm

re: #95 Eclectic Cyborg

Just watched that Desantis clip and…wow.

Is it possible he’s actually not vaxxed?

I doubt it, but its possible he hadn’t gotten his booster shot yet.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 5, 2022 • 3:26:41pm

re: #129 darthstar

Let’s hope he didn’t infect anyone in your group.

Well, not me, at least. Rapid test shows negative.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2022 • 3:27:38pm

re: #135 Dopamine Fish

Yay.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 3:29:12pm

re: #135 Dopamine Fish

Well, not me, at least. Rapid test shows negative.

Your dumbass contrarian friend who’s trying to die in agony from COVID is the person who needs to worry about this. You’d be fine if you caught it.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 5, 2022 • 3:31:25pm

re: #137 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Your dumbass contrarian friend who’s trying to die in agony from COVID is the person who needs to worry about this. You’d be fine if you caught it.

Ayup. It didn’t even sink in until I typed it upthread, but he’s the only one without his shots. Even my son has had his jabs.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 5, 2022 • 3:33:53pm

Late last week Marc Elias predicted this and warned Dems not to take the bait:

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2022 • 3:36:13pm

re: #139 Barefoot Grin

Late last week Marc Elias predicted this and warned Dems not to take the bait:

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A dark money group is spending $1M to run ads in West Virginia to get Manchin to not support changing the filibuster for this. dailykos.com

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 5, 2022 • 3:37:10pm

re: #140 Belafon

No worries. They could save their $$$.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 5, 2022 • 3:38:49pm

re: #107 Punish Domestic Terrorists

That’s fine with me.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 5, 2022 • 3:43:55pm

re: #124 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

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Dave In Austin  Jan 5, 2022 • 3:45:01pm

Pure Pander. Az lowered the drinking age back in the 70’s. Then raised it back up in the 80’s for obvious reason’s.
Cheryl is a DanamaGuns wannabe.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 3:48:50pm

re: #144 Dave In Austin

Pure Pander. Az lowered the drinking age back in the 70’s. Then raised it back up in the 80’s for obvious reason’s.
Cheryl is a DanamaGuns wannabe.

Kari is trash.

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prairiefire  Jan 5, 2022 • 3:49:01pm

re: #116 Belafon

Haven’t you heard? mRNA based vaccines are genetic engineering that will change your cells. That’s how you become magnetic.

And your daughters will be barren.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 5, 2022 • 3:50:02pm

re: #135 Dopamine Fish

Well, not me, at least. Rapid test shows negative.

Not to be a downer, but I suggest you take it again in 2-3 days. These tests, IMHO, are giving people a false sense of security in terms of in-person get-togethers. A test may be negative at that moment and positive several hours or days later.

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Dangerman  Jan 5, 2022 • 3:56:54pm
Nearly all of the 147 Republicans who voted to reject the 2020 presidential election results wouldn’t tell the HuffPost if they regret that vote.

The “coup attempt” is ongoing

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:00:54pm

re: #143 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:01:40pm

re: #140 Belafon

A dark money group is spending $1M to run ads in West Virginia to get Manchin to not support changing the filibuster for this. dailykos.com

This is definitely a plan to peel off Manchin, probably with Manchin’s blessing.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:02:30pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:05:59pm

This is actually (Live at the Hammersmith Odeon, London ‘75) the Born to Run tour. Check out Little Steven’s red pimp suit.

Here’s some awesome jazz fusion

Kitty’s Back (Live at the Hammersmith Odeon, London ‘75)

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:06:12pm
Sweden created the Swedish Psychological Defense Agency on Saturday to combat election disinformation.

Ahead of the country’s Sept. 11 general election, the agency was created on Jan. 1 to fight against disinformation and undue election influence, The Associated Press reported.

“We defend our open and democratic society and free opinions by identifying, analysing and responding to inappropriate influences and other misleading information directed at Sweden or Swedish interests,” the agency’s website states.

The group says it will “offer support to agencies, municipalities, regions, companies and organisations and contribute to strengthening resilience within our population.”

Sweden creates Swedish Psychological Defense Agency to combat disinformation (The Hill)

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:07:14pm

re: #153 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Sweden creates Swedish Psychological Defense Agency to combat disinformation (The Hill)

Can they do us next?

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retired cynic  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:07:38pm

re: #94 ckkatz

Very true!

There are some techniques that are needed in Pittsburgh that I have never used elsewhere.

I was driving up a hilly road behind a VW bug. The traffic light turned red.

I noticed that the last bit of the road before the light was a huge ice patch. So I stopped well clear of the ice patch on clear road.

Sure enough, when the light turned green, the VW Bug (manual transmission) tried to go into gear and slid backwards down the ice patch until it caught the clear pavement and could stop.

Remember the comedy routine of one W. Cosby, about stopping on the streets of San Francisco with a stick shift.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:07:55pm

re: #135 Dopamine Fish

Well, not me, at least. Rapid test shows negative.

Whew…wait…You didn’t pee on a stick did you?

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:08:29pm

Would like some lizard opinions.

I’m planning to go to Durant, OK. to play in three WSOP poker tournaments at Choctaw next Thursday thru Saturday. I am fully vaxxed and had my booster shot two weeks ago. However, I looked up the county (Bryan) fully-vaccinated rate, and it’s 42%. With omicron spreading like wildfire, I’m beginning to think I should call this off. Thoughts?

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EstebanTornado1963  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:08:36pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:08:53pm

re: #149 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:11:07pm

re: #154 Dopamine Fish

Can they do us next?

Nope. The 1st Amendment is a suicide pact. If we could shut down disinformation, 30% of the nation wouldn’t be seditious madmen who have no idea what’s real.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:11:22pm

re: #156 darthstar

Whew…wait…You didn’t pee on a stick did you?

Is that wrong? Should I not do that?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:12:11pm

re: #154 Dopamine Fish

Can they do us next?

It won’t matter. The Fact Checkers have tried to combat Covid disinformation and it hasn’t persuaded a single member of the anti-vax Trump cult.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:12:17pm

re: #157 Ace Rothstein

Would like some lizard opinions.

I’m planning to go to Durant, OK. to play in three WSOP poker tournaments at Choctaw next Thursday thru Saturday. I am fully vaxxed and had my booster shot two weeks ago. However, I looked up the county (Bryan) fully-vaccinated rate, and it’s 42%. With omicron spreading like wildfire, I’m beginning to think I should call this off. Thoughts?

I wouldn’t go anywhere I didn’t absolutely have to. I’m sorry to say that. I know so many people traveling and I don’t get it. A breakthrough infection may be mild and it may not. I’m hyper conservative when it comes to possibly being sick for the rest of my life. Especially with a side of “you might die, too.)

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:12:55pm

re: #157 Ace Rothstein

Would like some lizard opinions.

I’m planning to go to Durant, OK. to play in three WSOP poker tournaments at Choctaw next Thursday thru Saturday. I am fully vaxxed and had my booster shot two weeks ago. However, I looked up the county (Bryan) fully-vaccinated rate, and it’s 42%. With omicron spreading like wildfire, I’m beginning to think I should call this off. Thoughts?

Fold

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:12:58pm

re: #157 Ace Rothstein

Would like some lizard opinions.

I’m planning to go to Durant, OK. to play in three WSOP poker tournaments at Choctaw next Thursday thru Saturday. I am fully vaxxed and had my booster shot two weeks ago. However, I looked up the county (Bryan) fully-vaccinated rate, and it’s 42%. With omicron spreading like wildfire, I’m beginning to think I should call this off. Thoughts?

I’d pass because my county is similar and MrBWS, despite being fully vaxxed and masked when out and about, is still recovering what appears to be an Omicron breakthrough infection.
No reason to take a chance, Ace.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:13:46pm

re: #161 Dopamine Fish

Is that wrong? Should I not do that?

Depends on what you’re into. 😂

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:13:51pm

Done. I’ll wait until things calm down, and play in March in Tulsa if things are better.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:14:10pm

re: #157 Ace Rothstein

Would like some lizard opinions.

I’m planning to go to Durant, OK. to play in three WSOP poker tournaments at Choctaw next Thursday thru Saturday. I am fully vaxxed and had my booster shot two weeks ago. However, I looked up the county (Bryan) fully-vaccinated rate, and it’s 42%. With omicron spreading like wildfire, I’m beginning to think I should call this off. Thoughts?

How willing are you to be sick for a few days? If you catch Omicron on top of your booster, you wind up well protected from COVID when you recover. I think it’s something we all have to face eventually, but I’m doing everything I can to avoid it for as long as possible.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:14:14pm

re: #160 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Nope. The 1st Amendment is a suicide pact. If we could shut down disinformation, 30% of the nation wouldn’t be seditious madmen who have no idea what’s real.

Begging your pardon, but yes, they would. Because 30% of the country believes that literally anything a Democrat says is a lie and that liberalism is literally the enemy of America, they would have inevitably have independently come to the same conclusion.

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gocart mozart  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:14:27pm

Orwell nails it.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:16:13pm

re: #115 PhillyPretzel

This the one thing I do not understand regarding the vaccine. Both Pfizer and Moderna are vaccines that are genetic code based. There is no dead or live virus in them. That actually makes them safer than a vaccine that has a bit of the virus in it like J & J. Are these folks so afraid of new technology that they are willing to die of the virus?

No. It’s political theater.

If another pandemic disease or similar made an outbreak it’s 50/50* that the GOP and associated nuts will accept a vaccine for it without complaint whether it was a typical one or RNA/DNA based.

Trump and the Republicans made a political calculation that keeping the economy running full-out and poo-poo-ing the virus and how to properly react to it outweighed the potential political cost of doing any sort of effective lock-down. There would still be anti-vaccine and anti-mask nuts, but they wouldn’t have the majority of the media and one of the political parties backing them to the hilt.

* - I say 50/50 since the GOP may well have poisoned the well badly enough regarding government led public health measures that they feel they do have to resist any vaccine for any disease from now on.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:17:35pm

re: #155 retired cynic

Remember the comedy routine of one W. Cosby, about stopping on the streets of San Francisco with a stick shift.

Lombard St.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:18:51pm

re: #169 Dopamine Fish

Begging your pardon, but yes, they would. Because 30% of the country believes that literally anything a Democrat says is a lie and that liberalism is literally the enemy of America, they would have inevitably have independently come to the same conclusion.

They believe that because of the disinformation. Now the poison is in their heads, so it will continue indefinitely, but it could have been stopped at one time.

Back when we had the big three networks, and far-right propaganda was circulated in newsletters via the mail rather than on TV and Facebook, we had a lot less delusional people running around. We still had nutjobs, but we hadn’t lost a major political party to them.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:22:49pm

I got so busy today I forgot to install my new Condensate pump for the furnace…still got the cracked one leaking water onto my garage floor. Meh…it can wait until morning. Wife’s almost home and I want a cocktail.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:23:55pm

re: #171 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

No. It’s political theater.

If another pandemic disease or similar made an outbreak it’s 50/50* that the GOP and associated nuts will accept a vaccine for it without complaint whether it was a typical one or RNA/DNA based.

Trump and the Republicans made a political calculation that keeping the economy running full-out and poo-poo-ing the virus and how to properly react to it outweighed the potential political cost of doing any sort of effective lock-down. There would still be anti-vaccine and anti-mask nuts, but they wouldn’t have the majority of the media and one of the political parties backing them to the hilt.

* - I say 50/50 since the GOP may well have poisoned the well badly enough regarding government led public health measures that they feel they do have to resist any vaccine for any disease from now on.

Trumpism is a factor, but Right-wing Christians laid the groundwork for the mass suicide long ago, calling vaccines “the mark of the beast,” and their Jonestown could have happened with any new vaccine. They should have been fringe kooks in a sane society, but their numbers are so large now that they control the Republican party.
Trump is a symptom. Right-wing, theocratic, lie-based politics is the disease.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:24:05pm

re: #157 Ace Rothstein

Don’t. Just don’t, you WILL get sick. We all just need to buckle up here and do the right thing.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:28:13pm

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piratedan  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:30:57pm

this year I think I’m just going to bypass all of the political punditry bullshit… the usual doom and gloom about what Dems can and cannot do…

despite the playing field tilting done by the media, the complete hypocrisy that we see from the GOP to endorse and condone political sabotage in these times have caused a great many of us to simply tune out. I don’t need to be inundated every day by a media that calls balls and strikes differently depending upon which team is on the field.

We know who is to blame, and we know who is trying… the GOP simply wants to be in control and punish people that do not share their POV, period, they’re in a club and we’re all very much no in it. So that makes it easy, do I want to cast my vote for a party that is trying to solve the problems that we face or do I want to be a spiteful SOB….

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:31:17pm

re: #157 Ace Rothstein

Would like some lizard opinions.

I’m planning to go to Durant, OK. to play in three WSOP poker tournaments at Choctaw next Thursday thru Saturday. I am fully vaxxed and had my booster shot two weeks ago. However, I looked up the county (Bryan) fully-vaccinated rate, and it’s 42%. With omicron spreading like wildfire, I’m beginning to think I should call this off. Thoughts?

I’ve always wanted to play in the WSOP. I don’t suck at poker, though I get bored after a while and bet recklessly…but in no limit money games I bluffed my way into a number of big pots. It helped that I had an overactive thyroid at the time…gave me the shakes and made me sweat all the time.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:32:08pm

re: #157 Ace Rothstein

Would like some lizard opinions.

I’m planning to go to Durant, OK. to play in three WSOP poker tournaments at Choctaw next Thursday thru Saturday. I am fully vaxxed and had my booster shot two weeks ago. However, I looked up the county (Bryan) fully-vaccinated rate, and it’s 42%. With omicron spreading like wildfire, I’m beginning to think I should call this off. Thoughts?

If you are older or have preexisting conditions that make you more vulnerable, I wouldn’t risk it.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:32:39pm

Al Franken on Joy Reid’s show right now - he’s obviously got them on a second monitor so he’s not looking at the screen with the camera on it.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:33:32pm

re: #180 No Malarkey!

If you are older or have preexisting conditions that make you more vulnerable, I wouldn’t risk it.

I suspect the vaccination rate at a poker tournament could be even lower - unless it was required.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:36:02pm

re: #182 darthstar

I suspect the vaccination rate at a poker tournament could be even lower - unless it was required.

Poker players are generally very intelligent people, but there are plenty of donkeys and it is Oklahoma.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:37:21pm

I should say the really good poker players are very intelligent people, tend to be educated and trend liberal.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:37:53pm

re: #115 PhillyPretzel

This the one thing I do not understand regarding the vaccine. Both Pfizer and Moderna are vaccines that are genetic code based. There is no dead or live virus in them. That actually makes them safer than a vaccine that has a bit of the virus in it like J & J. Are these folks so afraid of new technology that they are willing to die of the virus?

These are the people who were smoking under the bleachers during Biology.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:38:48pm

re: #184 Ace Rothstein

Better safe than sorry. If you have any doubts don’t go.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:39:28pm

NC Republican secretly used an outside map for redistricting which was later destroyed, and lied to the legislature about it.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:40:49pm

re: #185 Decatur Deb

It sounds like they were.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:40:55pm

re: #179 darthstar

I’ve always wanted to play in the WSOP. I don’t suck at poker, though I get bored after a while and bet recklessly…but in no limit money games I bluffed my way into a number of big pots. It helped that I had an overactive thyroid at the time…gave me the shakes and made me sweat all the time.

When I used to travel for work is always go play in a tournament. I’ve never not made the final table. I’ve only won twice but making the final table all the time ain’t too shabby.

I never play online because they’re almost all suckers. If you don’t fold the first 50+ hands some schmuck will luck out and take you out. Case in point. Hand one: I had AA hold cards. I was just to the right on the SB. By the time it got to me THREE people went all in. I folded my AA. I would have lost because some asshole with like A10 off won the hand.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:42:35pm

re: #183 Ace Rothstein

Poker players are generally very intelligent people, but there are plenty of donkeys and it is Oklahoma.

I used to play a lot in S California. I can’t tell you how many times I overhead conversations about how Obama was a (Kenyan, secret muslim, communist…). Intelligent maybe, but there is a huge number of players that are Libertarians. (they act like they built every road and should never have to pay a nickel in taxes.)

I’m willing to bet that in OK, at least 25% are not vaxed, refuse to wear a mask, and think the media is over hyping the virus.

I love poker, but am not playing live for another month.

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Mattand  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:44:42pm

re: #183 Ace Rothstein

Poker players are generally very intelligent people, but there are plenty of donkeys and it is Oklahoma.

I’ve been playing a lot of poker in Red Dead Redemption Online lately, LOL. I keep telling myself it’s practice. I’ve actually been doing well, but like most free online poker, you play against a lot of psychos who go all in on every. Freaking. Hand.

Makes it hard to play a strategic game.

I keep trying to screw up the nerve to do it in real life in Philly or AC, but I have a feeling I’d fulfill the “If you don’t recognize the fish at the table…” maxim.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:45:11pm
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BeenHereAwhile  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:46:48pm

re: #183 Ace Rothstein

Poker players are generally very intelligent people, but there are plenty of donkeys and it is Oklahoma.

Even being vaxed and boosted, I’d compare the odds of infection - being at tournament, or at home - and decide what was the safest bet.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:47:18pm

re: #191 Mattand

I’ve been playing a lot of poker in Red Dead Redemption Online lately, LOL. I keep telling myself it’s practice. I’ve actually been doing well, but like most free online poker, you play against a lot of psychos who go all in on every. Freaking. Hand.

Makes it hard to play a strategic game.

I keep trying to screw up the nerve to do it in real life in Philly or AC, but I have a feeling I’d fulfill the “If you don’t recognize the fish at the table…” maxim.

Set an amount you can afford to lose, and go have fun. If you think of it as entertainment, like paying for a ticket to a concert or a game, any money you come home with is just gravy.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:49:13pm

re: #193 BeenHereAwhile

Even being vaxed and boosted, I’d compare the odds of infection - being at tournament, or at home - and decide what was the safest bet.

Not to mention there will be a lot of staff walking around and where ever the players go when not playing. If the area is at 42% vaccination, and the facilities are not requiring test, vaccination, masks, etc. then it’s essentially a super-spreader event since there is going to be exposure and then the virus gets to the tables within a day or two if it is not already there.

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Mattand  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:49:18pm

re: #194 No Malarkey!

Set an amount you can afford to lose, and go have fun. If you think of it as entertainment, like paying for a ticket to a concert or a game, any money you come home with is just gravy.

That’s actually a good way of looking at it. Lord knows I’ve spent money on stupider things…

*eyes solid gold Roomba in the corner that plays Bavarian folk jazz*

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:50:10pm

re: #189 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

AA like other big pairs does not play well against multiple opponents. If I was in your situation in a tournament, and I had AA, and we were already in the money, and three went all in, I would almost definitely let my hand go and let two people bust and move up the pay ladder.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:50:10pm

re: #191 Mattand

I’ve been playing a lot of poker in Red Dead Redemption Online lately, LOL. I keep telling myself it’s practice. I’ve actually been doing well, but like most free online poker, you play against a lot of psychos who go all in on every. Freaking. Hand.

Makes it hard to play a strategic game.

I keep trying to screw up the nerve to do it in real life in Philly or AC, but I have a feeling I’d fulfill the “If you don’t recognize the fish at the table…” maxim.

I hate online poker. I played in a tourney once. I’ll never do it again. I used to play online private games with some pros and that was very cool, very educational.i used to write a poker blog. Man, that was years and years ago. I’m so fucking old.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:50:36pm
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Eventual Carrion  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:50:56pm

re: #161 Dopamine Fish

Is that wrong? Should I not do that?

Just don’t stick it up your nose afterwards.

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Mattand  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:51:56pm

re: #195 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Not to mention there will be a lot of staff walking around and where ever the players go when not playing. If the area is at 42% vaccination, and the facilities are not requiring test, vaccination, masks, etc. then it’s essentially a super-spreader event since there is going to be exposure and then the virus gets to the tables within a day or two if it is not already there.

I’m trying to justify seeing the new Spidey movie, and that line of thought keeps going through my head. And we’re something like 67% vaxxed where I’m at. The adult in me is waging a so-far successful “Just wait until it’s on streaming” war.

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Mattand  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:52:46pm

re: #198 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I hate online poker. I played in a tourney once. I’ll never do it again. I used to play online private games with some pros and that was very cool, very educational.i used to write a poker blog. Man, that was years and years ago. I’m so fucking old.

Wow, that’s genuinely cool. The blog still up? I’d like to take a peek.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:52:47pm
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Dopamine Fish  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:53:49pm

re: #203 Backwoods_Sleuth

The screen shot in that first tweet makes her look like a complete psychopath. So, in other words, it’s very accurate.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:54:01pm

re: #198 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I LOVE online poker. The things I have learned from online poker (the constant aggression, the stealing blinds, learning how to play a frequency-based game, etc) have allowed me to play any live game and destroy it. Three people limp in, and you blast with a big raise. Two will call and almost always fold to a 65% sized continuation bet on the flop. It’s one of my favorite bread and butter plays.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:54:01pm

re: #201 Mattand

I’m trying to justify seeing the new Spidey movie, and that line of thought keeps going through my head. And we’re something like 67% vaxxed where I’m at. The adult in me is waging a so-far successful “Just wait until it’s on streaming” war.

People who are fully vaxxed and want to get back to life will be going to movies, but so will idiots who are just pretending that the pandemic doesn’t exist because trying to adapt to change makes their heads hurt.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:54:13pm

I’m in an online tourny a I type this. close to the money. will keep you posted.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:54:46pm

re: #204 Dopamine Fish

The screen shot in that first tweet makes her look like a complete psychopath. So, in other words, it’s very accurate.

I was going to say the same thing.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:55:28pm

re: #194 No Malarkey!

Set an amount you can afford to lose, and go have fun. If you think of it as entertainment, like paying for a ticket to a concert or a game, any money you come home with is just gravy.

That’s what I do…but I like to do it at the craps table now. So much fun when you get a hot roller…then take a break, reset, and play your limit again.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:56:12pm

re: #207 I Would Prefer Not To

I’m in an online tourny a I type this. close to the money. will keep you posted.

If you’re close to the money, and there’s a jam and a call, I wouldn’t hesitate to fold anything worse than AA if one of the all-ins has your stack covered.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:56:15pm

I played in exactly one poker tournament. My (at the time soon-to-be) brother-in-law fancied himself the hot shit at the poker table, and took me to a tournament at a local lakeside bar. (Essentially, a place that only very rich people would ordinarily see the inside of.) Call it beginner’s luck or being an outsider or whatever, but said brother-in-law-to-be wound up sitting beside me and watching as I went all the way to the second-to-last table before I got tired and bored and pushed all in until they took me out.

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JC1  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:56:26pm

re: #144 Dave In Austin

Pure Pander. Az lowered the drinking age back in the 70’s. Then raised it back up in the 80’s for obvious reason’s.
Cheryl is a DanamaGuns wannabe.

What obvious reasons? The 21 drinking age is absurd.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:56:32pm
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Mattand  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:57:06pm

re: #205 Ace Rothstein

I LOVE online poker. The things I have learned from online poker (the constant aggression, the stealing blinds, learning how to play a frequency-based game, etc) have allowed me to play any live game and destroy it. Three people limp in, and you blast with a big raise. Two will call and almost always fold to a 65% sized continuation bet on the flop. It’s one of my favorite bread and butter plays.

I can never quite figure out the math of how much to bet. When watching on TV, I try to guess what a player will bet. I then try to figure out what percentage of the pot the bet was in relation to where they are in the hand. I’m guessing there’s probably better ways to learn, LOL.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:57:35pm

re: #212 JC1

What obvious reasons? The 21 drinking age is absurd.

drunk teenagers kill a lot of people on the roads.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:58:43pm

re: #210 Ace Rothstein

If you’re close to the money, and there’s a jam and a call, I wouldn’t hesitate to fold anything worse than AA if one of the all-ins has your stack covered.

When it comes to tournaments I get into survivor mode until the money.

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Mattand  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:59:09pm

re: #215 No Malarkey!

drunk teenagers kill a lot of people on the roads.

I remember when NJ bumped the drinking age from 18 to 21 in the 80s. Teenage drunk driving deaths were like halved almost immediately.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2022 • 4:59:11pm
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:00:25pm

re: #212 JC1

What obvious reasons? The 21 drinking age is absurd.

It’s obviously not absurd, since it saves lives. I’d expect that kind of wild claim from my Libertarian former friend.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:01:00pm

re: #134 No Malarkey!

I doubt it, but its possible he hadn’t gotten his booster shot yet.

He was definitely vaccinated in April with J&J. But it does appear he may not have received the booster. Given the ignoramus he hired for Florida’s Surgeon General, it is possible that he has decided that politically it’s wiser to avoid further vaccinations. After all, political power is more important than preserving one’s health.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:03:28pm

re: #216 I Would Prefer Not To

When it comes to tournaments I get into survivor mode until the money.

Unless you have the big stack and then you start punishing those trying to survive!

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:08:26pm

This was my graph after getting to 50,000 hands for 2021, playing micro cash online.

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JC1  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:09:15pm

re: #215 No Malarkey!

drunk teenagers kill a lot of people on the roads.

Philosophically, I don’t think that you should be able to vote until you have all the rights of an adult.

Practically, drinking and driving is the problem (for people of any age), not the drinking.

If an 18 year old isn’t responsible enough to buy a beer, they’re probably not responsible enough to buy a gun, serve in the armed forces, sign legally binding contracts, etc.

The drinking age is 18 in Europe, south America, Australia, and most of Canada, and drinking isn’t a big deal in those cultures as a result.

Maybe if an 18 year old could get a drink at a bar, instead of at a middle of nowhere kegger, they could just take an Uber home.

I’ll get off my soap box now.

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JC1  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:17:16pm

re: #215 No Malarkey!

drunk teenagers kill a lot of people on the roads.

Drunk drivers, of any age, kill a lot of people on the road. Drinking and driving is the problem.

If you want to combat drunk driving, lower the legal BAC limit. In the US it’s .08%, in much of the rest of the world it’s .02%

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:17:31pm

re: #202 Mattand

Wow, that’s genuinely cool. The blog still up? I’d like to take a peek.

It’s an old blogspot one. I’m pretty sure it’s still up if blogspot is still alive. Let me see if I can Google it. It was literally like 5 computers ago.

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JC1  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:17:52pm

re: #217 Mattand

I remember when NJ bumped the drinking age from 18 to 21 in the 80s. Teenage drunk driving deaths were like halved almost immediately.

Pre Uber, pre ubiquitous credit cards.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:17:52pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:18:29pm

re: #225 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I really want to see this. Please post if you find it.

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JC1  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:20:20pm

re: #227 Dave In Austin

From 1983. Pre Lyft/Uber/Cell phones, etc

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No Malarkey!  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:21:40pm

re: #224 JC1

Drunk drivers, of any age, kill a lot of people on the road. Drinking and driving is the problem.

If you want to combat drunk driving, lower the legal BAC limit. In the US it’s .08%, in much of the rest of the world it’s .02%

I would lower the age of marijuana use before I would alcohol. A student at the University of Kentucky recently died of alcohol poisoning after he did 18 shots of bourbon.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:22:16pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:23:26pm

I knew there was a reason I liked this guy.

A Vital Introduction to Todd Rundgren!

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JC1  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:24:48pm

re: #230 No Malarkey!

I’ve seen a lot of irresponsible binge drinking when I was an RA in college in the 90s. Invariably it was someone sheltered at home getting their first taste of freedom, or a stupid hazing ritual.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:25:16pm

I lived in a twin-cities community: Champaign the age was 19 and Urbana was 18. So of course the Champaign 18yos drove a few extra blocks to go to bars and then pick up a sixer for after hours parties. When the Feds threatened to cut funding for those state and communities that didn’t raise the age to 21, there was compliance, but usually 18yos like me got grandfathered in. I think it should stay 21. There. I said it.

On a different note, an LA Times story about a mutual support group of congress-folk traumatized on 1/6 has been trending on and off. The comments are 95% “Lol, you pussies.” Mostly because it’s mainly female congresspeople, but also because trolls sense signs of weakness. Empaths, they are not.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:26:42pm

re: #229 JC1

From 1983. Pre Lyft/Uber/Cell phones, etc

Data is data….. Teenage drinking is teenage drinking
Driving drunk in 83 is driving drunk in 22

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No Malarkey!  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:28:33pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:29:31pm

re: #205 Ace Rothstein

I LOVE online poker. The things I have learned from online poker (the constant aggression, the stealing blinds, learning how to play a frequency-based game, etc) have allowed me to play any live game and destroy it. Three people limp in, and you blast with a big raise. Two will call and almost always fold to a 65% sized continuation bet on the flop. It’s one of my favorite bread and butter plays.

I rarely bluff. I might limp in, hoping someone would do just what you said, then limp (call) again on the turn and (depending on where I was sitting) re-raise or go all in on the river (or if I’m so-so but fairly confident in my hand, do that on the turn so we don’t even get to the river), but if I’ve got the nuts, I’m taking you for every chip I can. Of course there’re variables; my hold cards, cards on the table, where I’m sitting, how many people are in the pot, etc., etc., etc., but while I’m pretty conservative in betting, I also take no prisoners.

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:30:04pm

re: #227 Dave In Austin

That woman is promoting the “WalkAway” campaign, started by Brandon Straka, who helped assault Capitol Police on Jan 6.

gunfreedomradio.com

“…The website Hamilton 68, which tracks Russia’s interference on U.S. elections, reported that #WalkAway was “connected to Kremlin-linked Russian bots to manipulate voters into thinking the movement was more popular and active that it actually was.”
en.wikipedia.org

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:32:01pm

MyPillow Man is apparently launching YET ANOTHER crazypants lawsuit:

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Dave In Austin  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:32:36pm

re: #238 jaunte

Yep. She’s a total phony….. Her Husband is about 30 yrs older than her and obviously gave her anything she wanted.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:32:49pm

re: #214 Mattand

I can never quite figure out the math of how much to bet. When watching on TV, I try to guess what a player will bet. I then try to figure out what percentage of the pot the bet was in relation to where they are in the hand. I’m guessing there’s probably better ways to learn, LOL.

There’s two great books on playing poker - Harrington on Hold Em. Two volumes. Best books I’ve ever read and I’ve read many.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:34:25pm

re: #225 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

It’s an old blogspot one. I’m pretty sure it’s still up if blogspot is still alive. Let me see if I can Google it. It was literally like 5 computers ago.

Holy shit. Not only is blogspot still around but there are like a zillion poker blogs. Now I have to remember the name or something.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:36:28pm

Made the money. Currently in 3rd.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:36:44pm

Omicron; very contagious, but continues to appear to be less lethal, fingers crossed.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:38:52pm

re: #244 No Malarkey!

Omicron; very contagious, but continues to appear to be less lethal, fingers crossed.

I hope so, but a lot of the people who have it are vaccinated, and that alone will keep the death rate well below what we saw with Delta in the unvaccinated.

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JC1  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:38:58pm

re: #235 Dave In Austin

Data is data….. Teenage drinking is teenage drinking
Driving drunk in 83 is driving drunk in 22

Drinking is drinking, drunk driving is drunk driving. Let’s just go back to the prohibition.

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plansbandc  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:39:29pm

re: #205 Ace Rothstein

My bread and butter play is don’t be afraid to fold and choose your playing hands carefully.

I’m pretty good, but don’t play enough to be very good.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:40:05pm

re: #241 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

There’s two great books on playing poker - Harrington on Hold Em. Two volumes. Best books I’ve ever read and I’ve read many.

I read those Harrington books back in the day. The best poker book I’ve read the last couple of years is “Play Optimal Poker” by Andrew Brokos. Gets into GTO and how to apply it to any opponent. Main thing I got out of it was polarized and condensed ranges and how to bet or not them. It’s great stuff. Brokos also has by far the best poker podcast out there called “Thinking Poker.” I can not recommend it enough. I also love every single thing Ed Miller has ever written.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:40:11pm

re: #246 JC1

Drinking is drinking, drunk driving is drunk driving. Let’s just go back to the prohibition.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:42:04pm

re: #228 Ace Rothstein

I really want to see this. Please post if you find it.

I’m on a mission now. Google is no help but maybe something is in one of my old email accounts, both of which I still have access to…I think. I haven’t logged into the Hotmail account in years. This is gonna be interesting.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:42:12pm

re: #247 plansbandc

My bread and butter play is don’t be afraid to fold and choose your playing hands carefully.

I’m pretty good, but don’t play enough to be very good.

I would be considered a TAG (tight aggressive) player. I play maybe 18-20% of my hands, but I play them very aggressively, always open raising and stealing any pot I think I can win based on the frequencies of my opponent(s).

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:43:37pm

A little truth from the king of the soft ballad…

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:51:27pm

re: #252 darthstar

A little truth from the king of the soft ballad…

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Not as “exactly the same” as Nirvana, though.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:51:57pm

I started playing poker in little bars in Kenosha, WI. There was like a club almost where they had regular poker nights at this and that bar. I’d go do that two evenings a week. I’d never played hold em before that. I was hooked. I kept getting better and became friends with this one guy (who sadly passed away from diabetes at like 30). He’s the one who invited me to play with this group of pros. This was before WSOP was a big deal so a long time ago.

Reminiscing. It’s bittersweet. I miss you Chris. You were a heck of a nice guy.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:53:38pm

This thread will make you smile.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:56:22pm

Yikes. Some people are Twitter are really their shit over Merrick Garland.

Then again, people on Twitter are basically always losing their shit over simple disagreements.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:56:56pm

Mentally ill tech executive accuses the Jews of plotting to kill everyone, gets fired, then says some of his closest friends are Jews. news.yahoo.com

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Dave In Austin  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:57:04pm

re: #246 JC1

Have it your way. Don’t go away mad because some my disagree….

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:59:46pm

re: #254 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I started playing in 2002. The first time I got my ass handed to me. The next morning I went out and bought a book on hold em strategy. I basically memorized what it said about position (the absolute most important thing in poker), and playing pretty tight, and what not. I immediately got better. I started playing small bar tournaments for $10 to $20 and started cashing regularly. Then I read tournament strategy and figured out jam strategies when your stack gets to around 10-12 big blinds and my win rate skyrocketed. You would be amazed at how many people out there still do not understand how to play the late game in tournaments. They will hold on to the last chip for dear life as the blinds eat them alive, then curse the poker gods when they bubble out.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 5, 2022 • 5:59:55pm
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jaunte  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:00:48pm

The Caine Mutiny (1954) - Frozen Strawberries

The Caine Mutiny (1954) - Frozen Strawberries Scene (4/9) | Movieclips

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:02:43pm

re: #255 No Malarkey!

This thread will make you smile.

That is absolutely fucking AWESOME!

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:03:02pm

re: #260 Charles Johnson

If I had a shit for every shit I lost over shit I shouldn’t care about I’d have a lot of shit.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:03:45pm

Some parts of this country are real shitholes.

George Floyd’s 4-year-old niece was hospitalized after she was struck in the torso by gunfire that pierced her family’s Houston home just hours after the new year.

“Daddy, I’ve been hit,” Arianna Delane told her father after several bullets tore through their second-story home just before 3 a.m. on New Year’s Day.

“I was shocked until I seen the blood and I realized my 4-year-old daughter was really hit,” her dad, Derrick Delane, told KTRK-TV. “She didn’t know what was going on. She was asleep.”

Delane slammed the police’s sluggish response to the incident, accusing the cops of taking roughly four hours to arrive after his daughter was shot.

In a statement on Tuesday, Houston Police Chief Troy Finner said that he had initiated an investigation into the department’s delay.

Cops Accused of Taking Hours to Show Up After George Floyd’s 4-Year-Old Niece Was Shot in Bed (The Daily Beast)

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KingKenrod  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:04:23pm

I’ve been much happier since I replaced the political talking heads in my twitter feed with stuff like this.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:04:50pm

Any word on Fat Donny’s rant in Southern AZ tonight?

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:04:52pm

re: #262 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

That is absolutely fucking AWESOME!

Made my jaw hurt imagining all that gum.

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JC1  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:05:02pm

re: #258 Dave In Austin

Have it your way. Don’t go away mad because some my disagree….

I’m not at all angry. Just pointing out that drunk driving is a problem regardless of age. I’m all for trying to prevent drunk driving and there are more effective things we can do than the 21 drinking age.

Since drunk driving is bad, and since your way of combating it is to have a prohibition against those under 21 buying alcohol, a logical extension of your position is to extend the prohibition to everyone.

By your reasoning, even more lives will be saved.

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:05:06pm

re: #264 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Investigation finds “we decided not to go right away.”

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No Malarkey!  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:05:30pm

re: #263 darthstar

If I had a shit for every shit I lost over shit I shouldn’t care about I’d have a lot of shit.

Shiiiiiit dude

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:05:44pm

re: #266 Dave In Austin

Any word on Fat Donny’s rant in Southern AZ tonight?

I thought it was in two weeks?

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No Malarkey!  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:07:06pm

Out of respect for Hoarse, I deleted his tweet.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:08:22pm

re: #267 darthstar

Made my jaw hurt imagining all that gum.

There’s a story there and I WANT IT! Why did he have that much gum? Is there a fetish for that? Was his fetish sharing the gum? Honestly, I need answers.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:08:50pm

re: #268 JC1

With all due respect, that’s not worth a response.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:09:19pm

re: #272 No Malarkey!

Oh no, what a terrible thing to happen to such a fine, upstanding public servant.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:10:40pm

Seriously though, fuck him.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:10:48pm

re: #275 Ace Rothstein

Oh no, what a terrible thing to happen to such a fine, upstanding public servant.

If desantis dies and winds up on SAV, I may have to review my beliefs on God.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:11:47pm

re: #272 No Malarkey!

I agree.

Twitter says he deleted that Tweet.

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:11:49pm

re: #277 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

“Nemesis, the goddess who enacts retribution against those who succumb to hubris.”

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No Malarkey!  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:12:04pm

re: #277 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

If desantis dies and winds up on SAV, I may have to review my beliefs on God.

What do we say to the Goddess of Death?

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No Malarkey!  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:12:50pm

re: #278 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Twitter says he deleted that Tweet.

That was fast; I wonder why?

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:12:52pm
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:13:01pm

re: #279 jaunte

“Nemesis, the goddess who enacts retribution against those who succumb to hubris.”

Where’s she been for the past five years? That’s exactly what we need.

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:13:45pm

re: #283 Punish Domestic Terrorists

She’s been warming up the oceans.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:14:11pm

Still feeling a bit of fogginess (like just completing a very demanding spin class on the Peloton) from doing what I did with my job today (could be the tequila)…It’s weird when someone asks you to attend a call and in the first two minutes you realize you’ve been volunteered to own a major component of sign off on a three year project set to go live in 30 days…so you gird your loins and spend five hours on Microsoft Teams convincing people who normally take days to respond to give you information you need in hours.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:14:48pm

re: #281 No Malarkey!

That was fast; I wonder why?

Midas still has it up.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:15:27pm

re: #272 No Malarkey!

I agree.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:16:41pm

They got it anyway because of shitheads like her.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:20:08pm

They brag about how stupid and irresponsible they are.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:20:15pm
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darthstar  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:20:50pm

My latest geek-wear t-shirt arrived today. It reads, “There is no cloud. It’s just someone else’s computer.” (with a cloud image above).

Since I run the Cloud Automation team I wanted to have a shirt to wear on Zoom to give them a grin…will probably buy on for each of them later when we return to office.

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JC1  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:21:23pm

re: #274 Dave In Austin

With all due respect, that’s not worth a response.

Sure Jan.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:22:16pm

re: #292 JC1

Sure Jan.

This isn’t a blog for teenagers. Move on.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:22:19pm

re: #281 No Malarkey!

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:24:52pm

re: #268 JC1

I’m not at all angry. Just pointing out that drunk driving is a problem regardless of age. I’m all for trying to prevent drunk driving and there are more effective things we can do than the 21 drinking age.

Since drunk driving is bad, and since your way of combating it is to have a prohibition against those under 21 buying alcohol, a logical extension of your position is to extend the prohibition to everyone.

By your reasoning, even more lives will be saved.

Full disclosure, I got away with driving under several conditions where I shouldn’t have been behind a wheel.

HeGary2rOaxlWbfcl2R+DFapAQn97T000qKYE0XzZQCiCdfxXOyCXxDbpJSYp7y12rrPK1FKG2SgJ4zlmQlbSAvAhGKABtNpTNW49LuUgKNxa9d6noOLIQxFLIML623cl7PlO/bBkoVrdNMSaSuC/qNUTSVRR8vdScc8tnwYd0qSiGSkx5rNepxm7+2sLY4bMX88FWLiNId1/PVigJp+nPggihxeF+uCr2VI3x3DgFJwXLbfB2UtOOXYiUVaIlDK

(don’t eat fungus and drive)…

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No Malarkey!  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:25:12pm

re: #294 Dread Pirate Ron

Compare what Hoarse did here to what the Right did to Hillary when she got ill.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:26:11pm

Got knocked out in 20th place for $53.00. Paid 6 bucks to enter. Not happy, no one is unless they win. Jammed on the button with A 5 (after it was folded to me). Big blind woke up with Q Q. I only had about 10 BB. Thanks for cheering me on.

Edit: I did better than player trump202@coinbase.com (a fucking trump supporter AND crypto nut).

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JC1  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:31:18pm

re: #293 Punish Domestic Terrorists

This isn’t a blog for teenagers. Move on.

Is there a 21 minimum age for posting here as well? What if I’m not driving while doing it?

This isn’t your sandbox.

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:32:18pm

re: #298 JC1

If you have some data that supports your argument, post that. Otherwise you’re just huffing.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:34:55pm

re: #286 Ace Rothstein

Midas still has it up.

What’s this about?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:36:04pm

re: #295 darthstar

Full disclosure, I got away with driving under several conditions where I shouldn’t have been behind a wheel.

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(don’t eat fungus and drive)…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:37:21pm

re: #294 Dread Pirate Ron

Ah. When I first saw it earlier today I didn’t agree that he looked ill. from that angle, though, he does look to be struggling.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:38:01pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:39:13pm

re: #297 I Would Prefer Not To

Got knocked out in 20th place for $53.00. Paid 6 bucks to enter. Not happy, no one is unless they win. Jammed on the button with A 5 (after it was folded to me). Big blind woke up with Q Q. I only had about 10 BB. Thanks for cheering me on.

Edit: I did better than player trump202@coinbase.com (a fucking trump supporter AND crypto nut).

Jamming any ace in that spot with 10BB was 100% the right thing you do. Glad you got more than just a min cash. Great job.

ADD: Fuck, way more than just a min cash. Almost 9X!

305
I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:40:54pm

re: #304 Ace Rothstein

Jamming any ace in that spot with 10BB was 100% the right thing you do. Glad you got more than just the min cash. Great job.

Thanks. I look forward to cheering you on when you make it to the final table at the WSOP. (may have to wait until next year).

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:43:48pm

re: #298 JC1

Is there a 21 minimum age for posting here as well? What if I’m not driving while doing it?

This isn’t your sandbox.

This isn’t your litterbox, threadshitter.

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JC1  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:48:02pm

re: #299 jaunte

If you have some data that supports your argument, post that. Otherwise you’re just huffing.

I’m not denying the data that barring alcohol sales to a sub group of people will lower drunk driving accidents. I’m asking if that’s the criteria, why stop at 21? A 45 year old drunk behind the wheel is as dangerous as a 20 year old.

If lives saved is the only metric we’re considering, then why not mandate a 45 mph speed limit on the highways, 20 mph in neighborhoods, and enforce them in a draconic fashion?

Clearly we make rules knowing that they will cost X lives per year, and as a society we’re okay with those (65+mph speed limits, etc).

I’ve listed some of the reasons I’m against the 21 drinking age in post 223.

If we want to lower drunk driving deaths, we should lower the BAC limit to .02%, like much of the civilized world.

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JC1  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:52:27pm

re: #306 Punish Domestic Terrorists

This isn’t your litterbox, threadshitter.

Cute.

I’m discussing issues at hand. I’m sorry that you have trouble dealing with differing viewpoints.

Have I been insulting to anyone?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:52:36pm

re: #307 JC1

I’m not denying the data that barring alcohol sales to a sub group of people will lower drunk driving accidents. I’m asking if that’s the criteria, why stop at 21? A 45 year old drunk behind the wheel is as dangerous as a 20 year old.

If lives saved is the only metric we’re considering, then why not mandate a 45 mph speed limit on the highways, 20 mph in neighborhoods, and enforce them in a draconic fashion?

Clearly we make rules knowing that they will cost X lives per year, and as a society we’re okay with those (65+mph speed limits, etc).

I’ve listed some of the reasons I’m against the 21 drinking age in post 223.

If we want to lower drunk driving deaths, we should lower the BAC limit to .02%, like much of the civilized world.

Thousands of lives have been saved by increasing the drinking age to 21. Lives have also been saved by enforcing the laws to all ages.

I’m also happy not sending kids to war so that argument doesn’t work with me.

Lowering the drinking age is never going to happen. If it’s the hill you want to die on, enjoy.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:52:45pm

853,612 dead.

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:53:48pm

re: #307 JC1

If we want to lower drunk driving deaths, we should lower the BAC limit to .02%, like much of the civilized world.

I agree. And fully fund mass transit, which may be one of the mitigating factors in the rest of the world.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:57:51pm

re: #308 JC1

Cute.

I’m discussing issues at hand. I’m sorry that you have trouble dealing with differing viewpoints.

Have I been insulting to anyone?

You’ve spun nonsense.
I don’t have a problem with differing viewpoints in general, other than the pineapple on pizza thing, but there are limits. You’re the one person here who annoys me. Do you think you’re the only person with a “differing viewpoint” here?

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Sherlock Hound  Jan 5, 2022 • 6:58:09pm

re: #287 Ace Rothstein

I wish we didn’t invoke Darwin. The right is always accusing us of being “Darwinists”. They love their soft eugenics, and too many liberals accept that framing.

Charles Darwin himself was horrified of the idea of “social Darwinism”.
I say this as one who DESPISES Republicans.
One calls it, “tone policing”, but I call it “not letting your enemies set the terms”.

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JC1  Jan 5, 2022 • 7:01:16pm

re: #309 I Would Prefer Not To

Thousands of lives have been saved by increasing the drinking age to 21. Lives have also been saved by enforcing the laws to all ages.

I’m also happy not sending kids to war so that argument doesn’t work with me.

Lowering the drinking age is never going to happen. If it’s the hill you want to die on, enjoy.

Never is a long time. We might all be driving autonomous vehicles in 20 years; if drunk driving is the concern then it shouldn’t matter at that point.

In the meantime maybe we should raise the age of majority to 21, just to be consistent.

Have you spent much time abroad? The idea that an 18 year old can’t order a glass of wine or can of beer with lunch or at a sporting event is pretty ridiculous in much of the civilized world.

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JC1  Jan 5, 2022 • 7:07:33pm

re: #312 Punish Domestic Terrorists

You’ve spun nonsense.
I don’t have a problem with differing viewpoints in general, other than the pineapple on pizza thing, but there are limits. You’re the one person here who annoys me. Do you think you’re the only person with a “differing viewpoint” here?

Just because you disagree, or don’t understand, doesn’t make it nonsense. Maybe Charles can add an ignore user feature.
I’ve been here over for over a decade, and unless Charles has a problem with my posts or with me in general, I’m not going anywhere.

You have yourself a nice evening.

PS. I love Hawaiian pizza.

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A Cranky One  Jan 5, 2022 • 7:11:38pm

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2022 • 7:11:52pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 5, 2022 • 7:12:21pm

re: #310 Dread Pirate Ron

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853,612 dead.

Sigh. In Illinois, average new case count is over twice as high as in November 2020 and deaths continue to rise. The 7 day average is about 40% of the maximum in December 2020 but nothing to cheer about. Over 7 x as high as in July and August. Don’t know if it’s Delta or Omicron or some other variant that is striking people down here.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 5, 2022 • 7:14:23pm

re: #315 JC1

Just because you disagree, or don’t understand, doesn’t make it nonsense. Maybe Charles can add an ignore user feature.
I’ve been here over for over a decade, and unless Charles has a problem with my posts or with me in general, I’m not going anywhere.

You have yourself a nice evening.

PS. I love Hawaiian pizza.

In much of the civilized word, they have excellent public transportation. Not so much in most the USA.

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JC1  Jan 5, 2022 • 7:21:45pm

re: #319 I Would Prefer Not To

In much of the civilized word, they have excellent public transportation. Not so much in most the USA.

This is true, but we ride sharing now. It’d be interesting to see if drunk driving accidents have declined in recent (but pre covid) years as Uber and Lyft got introduced.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 5, 2022 • 7:27:31pm

re: #317 jaunte

.
There aren’t any definitive or thorough studies on this subject — just a multitude of articles from sources with various degrees of credibility and knowledge of actual details of the events. The teachers are not likely to be well versed in the subject especially when the information is rapidly changing on a daily basis. Given the current battles over what should be taught about struggles of the past two centuries, you are putting teachers in firing line over history that has not been written. I am not a teacher but maybe some who are here, especially those with backgrounds in history, might have suggestions.

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2022 • 7:28:02pm

re: #303 The Pie Overlord!

And he was really counting on Antifa being there.

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sagehen  Jan 5, 2022 • 7:28:13pm

re: #320 JC1

This is true, but we ride sharing now. It’d be interesting to see if drunk driving accidents have declined in recent (but pre covid) years as Uber and Lyft got introduced.

Government subsidized public transit in the countries you reference, even poor people can afford a monthly pass.

Uber and Lyft, poor people just can’t very often.

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JC1  Jan 5, 2022 • 7:28:48pm

re: #320 JC1

This is true, but we ride sharing now. It’d be interesting to see if drunk driving accidents have declined in recent (but pre covid) years as Uber and Lyft got introduced.

Found a study that shows significant reduction in alcohol related accidents among those under 30 after Uber got introduced.

jamanetwork.com

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 5, 2022 • 7:32:52pm

re: #322 Belafon

And he was really counting on Antifa being there.

💯

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2022 • 7:42:20pm

re: #313 Sherlock Hound

I wish we didn’t invoke Darwin. The right is always accusing us of being “Darwinists”. They love their soft eugenics, and too many liberals accept that framing.

Charles Darwin himself was horrified of the idea of “social Darwinism”.
I say this as one who DESPISES Republicans.
One calls it, “tone policing”, but I call it “not letting your enemies set the terms”.

The Right accuses us of trying to kill people with Covid and with a vaccine, of being Communists and Nazis, and a spending everyone’s money. And I think people are demonstrating how evolution works: a trait, even if it’s a social one, cause part of a group to not survive and environmental pressure.


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