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Mirrors - Weary (From the ‘Mirrors’ LP, GroundUP Music 2021)
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Justin Stanton - Sometimes we become blindly devoted to our relationships with others. We become unhappy; we are mistreated; we feel trapped. Still, we soldier on, ready to serve the person that betrayed, neglected, or abandoned us.

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Mirrors is: Becca Stevens, Gisela João, Justin Stanton, Louis Cato & Michael League

Written by Justin Stanton and Louis Cato
Arranged and Produced by Mirrors
Recorded, Engineered, and Mixed by Nic Hard
Mastered by Dave McNair
Filmed by João Marques
Video edited by João Marques and Justin Stanton

Louis Cato: Lead vocals, drum programming
Justin Stanton: Keyboards, synth bass
Becca Stevens: Background vocals
Gisela João: Background vocals

Special thanks to Cidade de Portalegre, Turismo do Alentejo, and Casa de Urra for their generous support.

“Weary” Lyrics
As I sit across from you and stare
I try my best to stay
I know that soon you’ll be leaving
And that I must get in the way

And it’s all that I can ask for
Something to keep safe
Still, you choose to treat me
Like something to throw away

You say you love me
I try to hear you beyond the chains
Again, more of the same

Even if you decide to leave
I know just where I got to be
With you, with you
With you, with you
Call it what you need to
Say what you want to say
Everyone can see you
Pushing the light away
I know you love me
But somehow you keep me wrapped in pain
You know that I will stay

Even if you decide to leave
Never find me too far away
I know just where I’ve got to be, got to be
With you

Even if you decide to leave
Never find me too far away
I know just where I’ve got to be
With you, with you
With you, with you
Weary in love

Even if you decide to leave
Never find me too far away
I know just where I’ve got to be, got to be
With you

Even if you decide to leave
Never find me too far away
I know just where I’ve got to be, got to be
With you

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sagehen  Jan 6, 2022 • 8:18:04pm
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jaunte  Jan 6, 2022 • 8:43:25pm
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 6, 2022 • 8:47:41pm
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Production on the series was immediately shut down Monday and has remained dark since. Sources say filming is expected to resume early next week, if not sooner, though details remain in limbo.

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:09:10pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:18:50pm

re: #2 jaunte

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If Tucker had demanded it in that moment, Ted would have cut his own balls off on live TV to appease Hair Furor.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:25:14pm

re: #5 Targetpractice

Tucker did demand it and Cruz obliged.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:25:30pm

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Targetpractice  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:34:08pm

re: #6 Patricia Kayden

Tucker did demand it and Cruz obliged.

I meant literally, as in Ted would have taken a rusty razor to the wedding tackle on live TV if Tucker had demanded it as contrition for speaking against Dear Leader.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:59:57pm

re: #5 Targetpractice

If Tucker had demanded it in that moment, Ted would have cut his own balls off on live TV to appease Hair Furor.

There is something about Trump that turns most Republicans into cowering traitors, unable to think independently, sacrificing any sense of independence to his needs. For Ted, maybe any person is able to reduce him to a whimpering rat, but it’s Ted’s need to appeal to the Trump base that makes him especially vulnerable.

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:00:17pm
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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:00:42pm

And now for something completely different..

When I looked at the spam entries in my mailbox tonight, I found one email, allegedly from LinkedIn (I’ve never joined), saying they’d found a job match for me. Out of curiosity, can anyone tell me what kind of a scam this is? All I can think of is ID phishing, but it seems a bit too complicated for that.

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retired cynic  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:21:53pm

re: #11 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

I used to get many many scam emails from them. I just ignored them.

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Targetpractice  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:23:05pm

re: #10 Belafon

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“Teachers have too much power” is people acknowledging that without public schools they have no way to babysit their kids while they work.

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sagehen  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:53:51pm

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JC1  Jan 6, 2022 • 11:02:37pm

re: #14 sagehen

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Why not both?

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 6, 2022 • 11:07:38pm

I don’t think I heard the press once tell their consumers that the wife of a SCOTUS Justice helped arrange 1/6—either then or yesterday.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 6, 2022 • 11:08:11pm

Don’t forget bikes, electric or acoustic.

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The GOP is a terrorist organization  Jan 6, 2022 • 11:09:12pm

I know people - one of whom is a longtime friend - who quote these conspiracy theories almost to the letter. Especially the “ANTIFA did it” yarn.

RIght wing media has eliminated original thought.

The Next Big Lies: Jan. 6 Was No Big Deal, or a Left-Wing Plot

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 6, 2022 • 11:11:31pm

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Targetpractice  Jan 6, 2022 • 11:17:29pm

re: #18 The GOP is a terrorist organization

I know people - one of whom is a longtime friend - who quote these conspiracy theories almost to the letter. Especially the “ANTIFA did it” yarn.

RIght wing media has eliminated original thought.

The Next Big Lies: Jan. 6 Was No Big Deal, or a Left-Wing Plot

They want you to believe both. They want people to believe that what was planned was a totally peaceful demonstration, but then Antifa/BLM provocateurs worked together with undercover FBI agents to stir up the crowd into a violent mob…but totally failed, which is why no act of violence you see on tape was committed by a Trump supporter and any suggestions that they were responsible is further proof that this was a “false flag” operation meant to discredit the protests.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 6, 2022 • 11:17:47pm

They lied, not until Saturday.

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Sherlock Hound  Jan 6, 2022 • 11:25:11pm

re: #10 Belafon

Whataboutism. I’m sure the tankies rooted for the insurrectionists. America hoist on our own petard, etc.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 6, 2022 • 11:28:43pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2022 • 11:50:18pm

I do not understand the issue.

The vaccination debate is one about personal freedoms.

These also entail personal responsibility and consequences for one’s actions.

Make your choice, live with it.

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Targetpractice  Jan 7, 2022 • 12:01:08am

re: #24 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I do not understand the issue.

The vaccination debate is one about personal freedoms.

These also entail personal responsibility and consequences for one’s actions.

Make your choice, live with it.

In the MAGAt vocabulary, “personal responsibility” means you bear the responsibility for my actions. If I come to work knowing (or strongly suspecting) I have COVID and one of my coworkers is dead two weeks later, it’s his fault for not taking precautions against my lack of responsibility.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2022 • 12:09:27am

re: #25 Targetpractice

In the MAGAt vocabulary, “personal responsibility” means you bear the responsibility for my actions. If I come to work knowing (or strongly suspecting) I have COVID and one of my coworkers is dead two weeks later, it’s his fault for not taking precautions against my lack of responsibility.

Just like “You are free to follow the tenets of my religion”.

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Targetpractice  Jan 7, 2022 • 12:22:46am

re: #26 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just like “You are free to follow the tenets of my religion”.

“You must respect my religious freedom…by abiding by my religious beliefs and none others.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2022 • 12:29:11am

re: #27 Targetpractice

“You must respect my religious freedom…by abiding by my selective and subjective religious beliefs and none others.”

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A Cranky One  Jan 7, 2022 • 1:41:52am

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 7, 2022 • 1:43:01am
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ericblair  Jan 7, 2022 • 2:37:49am

re: #14 sagehen

“I don’t want self driving cars but public transit”

Well, yes, but from a European perspective we’ve got pervasive public transport, intercity trains on hourly or better schedules, and (in some places) whole networks of separated bike paths for commuting, and the rush hour traffic still completely sucks. Also bike commuting looks great on a sunny day in May and a little different when it’s raining sideways in February.

The US needs a lot better public transport, and hopefully the 50-whatever billion in the BIF bill will help kickstart a lot of new projects. But there’s a lot of evidence that it won’t get rid of private cars, and we might not need self-driving ones but we sure need to get them off of fossil fuels.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2022 • 2:46:34am

re: #31 ericblair

The notion is that public transit should be a viable option. I know plenty of people in the big city who don’t own cars, on the odd occasion they need one, they rent one from a car-sharing agency, and do not have to worry about where to park it when they are done.

I live in a village where a car is still pretty much a necessity to get around conveniently. When I would visit my GF in Frankfurt, the running gas was me to call her after I had found a parking place and ask if we needed anything from the supermarket, as I was going to walk past at least one of them on the way to her place…

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ericblair  Jan 7, 2022 • 3:03:57am

re: #32 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The notion is that public transit should be a viable option. I know plenty of people in the big city who don’t own cars, on the odd occasion they need one, they rent one from a car-sharing agency, and do not have to worry about where to park it when they are done.

Understood, but the way it’s worded goes way beyond that. I take public transport to work 90% of the time, because it’s convenient and more pleasant than sitting in traffic, and for some cities like Amsterdam, Paris, or London it’s crazy to drive there when you can just take the high-speed train.

But still most people here have at least one car, and it’s not reasonable to think that US private car ownership is all going to go away because a bunch of US cities have decent public transport again. We have to work on both public transport and lower-impact private transport.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2022 • 3:07:58am

re: #33 ericblair

Understood, but the way it’s worded goes way beyond that

Because it is two-paragraph Internet rant and not an essay.

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ericblair  Jan 7, 2022 • 3:14:25am

re: #34 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because it is two-paragraph Internet rant and not an essay.

It’s not because it’s short. From my perspective, the one sentence up top sets up a false dichotomy that throws the message off, and also implies that supporting public transport means they’re going to take your cars away, and a lot of people aren’t in favor of that at all. I’m a big supporter of and user of public transport, but like a lot of rants, it would probably have been better to say it a different way.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2022 • 3:17:25am

re: #35 ericblair

It’s not because it’s short. From my perspective, the one sentence up top sets up a false dichotomy that throws the message off, and also implies that supporting public transport means they’re going to take your cars away, and a lot of people aren’t in favor of that at all. I’m a big supporter of and user of public transport, but like a lot of rants, it would probably have been better to say it a different way.

It is more meant to evoke a gut response than to address an issue in any rational or even helpful way. Almost as if it was meant to evoke the response of “You America-hatin’ liberals will pry the steering wheel of my SUV out of my cold, dead hands!”

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 7, 2022 • 3:24:08am

Morning Lizardim from the bitterly cold wild north country. How go things among the lizardfolk on this frigid, clear, and otherwise beautiful winter Friday?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2022 • 3:26:51am

re: #37 Dopamine Fish

Morning Lizardim from the bitterly cold wild north country. How go things among the lizardfolk on this frigid, clear, and otherwise beautiful winter Friday?

We had a few snowflakes to allow us to enjoy the last days of the Christmas tree (it is coming down on Sunday)

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 7, 2022 • 3:28:37am

re: #38 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We had a few snowflakes to allow us to enjoy the last days of the Christmas tree (it is coming down on Sunday)

We’re an artificial tree household, and Mrs. Fish has already put our tree in storage for the year. We have “Christmas” lights (so quoted because they are kind of kitschy, so could be used for longer than just the Christmas season, or so Mrs. Fish tells me) strung across the fireplace, and the Christmas lights on the front porch are still up. I think that’s about it for the remaining decorations.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 7, 2022 • 3:31:21am

re: #37 Dopamine Fish

Morning Lizardim from the bitterly cold wild north country. How go things among the lizardfolk on this frigid, clear, and otherwise beautiful winter Friday?

Snow started falling here overnight. 1” or so on the ground currently and it is continuing to fall. Pretty looking out, but I know to avoid the roads since few people around here know how to drive in these conditions.

I might go take a walk in a few hours once the sun is up.

News is still sort of disappointing. And Republican friend going on about Democrat “political theater” over in Discord.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 7, 2022 • 3:34:28am

re: #40 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Snow started falling here overnight. 1” or so on the ground currently and it is continuing to fall. Pretty looking out, but I know to avoid the roads since few people around here know how to drive in these conditions.

I might go take a walk in a few hours once the sun is up.

News is still sort of disappointing. And Republican friend going on about Democrat “political theater” over in Discord.

Thankfully, for once I woke up to a lack of new snow on the driveway. Tuesday night into Wednesday, it was supposed to snow, and I accepted that; I woke up Wednesday and expected to just deal with the snow. But nooooo, it kept on snowing randomly throughout the day, and then I woke up yesterday to a fresh new 1/2” of snow coating everything, because why wouldn’t it snow AGAIN overnight?! So, no new snow, but the air temperature is a brisk -22 °F (-28.9 C). Thankfully, the wind has died down, so the wind chill is not too much colder than that. This air temperature, with the 15-25 mph (40 mph gusting) wind, would be brutal.

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sagehen  Jan 7, 2022 • 3:34:38am

re: #33 ericblair

But still most people here have at least one car, and it’s not reasonable to think that US private car ownership is all going to go away because a bunch of US cities have decent public transport again. We have to work on both public transport and lower-impact private transport.

80% of Americans live in urban areas. Better public transport within cities, and between cities, would be a good enough reason to persuade 1/2 of American car owners to junk their cars instead of replacing them when the vehicles reach the end of their useful life, and use the occasional rental instead of owning.

Bad news maybe for GM and Ford, but they can start manufacturing buses and streetcars instead. From 1943 to 1945, there were 0 consumer cars manufactured. There’s no such thing as a ‘44 Chevy or a ‘45 Cadillac. And y’know, the companies did just fine.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 7, 2022 • 3:45:35am

re: #42 sagehen

80% of Americans live in urban areas. Better public transport within cities, and between cities, would be a good enough reason to persuade 1/2 of American car owners to junk their cars instead of replacing them when the vehicles reach the end of their useful life, and use the occasional rental instead of owning.

Bad news maybe for GM and Ford, but they can start manufacturing buses and streetcars instead. From 1943 to 1945, there were 0 consumer cars manufactured. There’s no such thing as a ‘44 Chevy or a ‘45 Cadillac. And y’know, the companies did just fine.

What is sort of needed is a equivalent to an all-weather e-bike with decent protection for the driver - that would allow for commuting without requiring clothes changing, worrying about rain/splash, etc. And enough cargo space for a backpack and a few bags of groceries. Though I expect the urban challenge would still be sufficient parking.*

The real evolution is more tele-commuting and lessening the pressures to commute into city centers as compared to using home or fairly cheap satellite offices. This is tied to infrastructure development as well since better internet extending into rural areas makes those areas more attractive for those who don’t want to live in cities but still would require the internet access for remote office work for their jobs.

* - I considered bike commuting more than once. And the main limitation was simply a large, if not complete, lack of secure places to put a bicycle during the day. Since where I worked had a locker room and showers I had the option of changing into work clothes once I got there.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2022 • 3:59:36am

re: #39 Dopamine Fish

We’re an artificial tree household, and Mrs. Fish has already put our tree in storage for the year. We have “Christmas” lights (so quoted because they are kind of kitschy, so could be used for longer than just the Christmas season, or so Mrs. Fish tells me) strung across the fireplace, and the Christmas lights on the front porch are still up. I think that’s about it for the remaining decorations.

I would like to leave the tree up a bit longer just because it looks nice but they are coming around on Monday to collect the old trees.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2022 • 4:00:04am

re: #40 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Snow started falling here overnight. 1” or so on the ground currently and it is continuing to fall. Pretty looking out, but I know to avoid the roads since few people around here know how to drive in these conditions.

I might go take a walk in a few hours once the sun is up.

News is still sort of disappointing. And Republican friend going on about Democrat “political theater” over in Discord.

As if armed insurrection was not political theater enough

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2022 • 4:07:13am

re: #42 sagehen

Bad news maybe for GM and Ford, but they can start manufacturing buses and streetcars instead. From 1943 to 1945, there were 0 consumer cars manufactured. There’s no such thing as a ‘44 Chevy or a ‘45 Cadillac. And y’know, the companies did just fine.

Build more Shermans!!!

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sagehen  Jan 7, 2022 • 4:08:00am

re: #46 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Build more Shermans!!!

Or at least Jeeps. Those things last forever.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 7, 2022 • 4:12:03am

re: #45 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As if armed insurrection was not political theater enough

He is of the stated opinion they should finish the investigations, punish the offenders, and get on with things. Implying that the Democrats are dragging things out for political purposes while seemingly ignoring the constant GOP roadblocks and obstruction of the investigation, etc.

He is not a complete wingnut, since if he was I would simply quit talking to him. But at times he seems clueless or unaware of what the Republicans have been doing. I suspect that he is generally ignoring political news and very little is filtering in since he has different priorities than paying attention to it. And with the nature of our national news media the bits that filter in are anti-Biden and anti-Democrat simply to that appearing to be the default mode.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 7, 2022 • 4:15:24am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2022 • 4:15:52am

re: #48 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

He is of the stated opinion they should finish the investigations, punish the offenders, and get on with things. Implying that the Democrats are dragging things out for political purposes…

It would all be over if we had taken the GOP approach and simply surrounded the building and gassed everyone inside…

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 7, 2022 • 4:19:16am

re: #28 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Religious freedom is: I can’t do that, it is against my religion.
Religious freedom is not: YOU can’t do that, it is against MY religion.

(Edited to add ‘do’)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2022 • 4:28:50am

re: #51 Eventual Carrion

Religious freedom is: I can’t that, it is against my religion.
Religious freedom is not: YOU can’t do that, it is against MY religion.

and the added nuance of “God will forgive me if I repent” vs. “God will never forgive you unless you turn to Jesus!!!”

GOP politicians can fornicate and steal all they want and Jesus will take them back into the fold if they ask his forgiveness, but Democrats who support abortion, gay marriage, CRT, gun control and socialized medicine (all abominations until The Lord) can never be forgiven until they repent their ways (and support passing the appropriate legislation to make such things illegal)

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 7, 2022 • 4:28:56am

re: #49 Dave In Austin

Oh the power of makeup. Her color in not good.
You gotta cook the meatball in the sauce!

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ericblair  Jan 7, 2022 • 4:31:17am

re: #42 sagehen

80% of Americans live in urban areas. Better public transport within cities, and between cities, would be a good enough reason to persuade 1/2 of American car owners to junk their cars instead of replacing them when the vehicles reach the end of their useful life, and use the occasional rental instead of owning.

If you look at the per-country stats, car ownership rates tend to track national income more than anything. I don’t know how many people really want to get rid of theirs, basically, even if they end up using them less. In a high density area, having a car can be enough of a pain in the ass to want to ditch it, but if not, they’re tools and toys and symbols in many ways that people will pay a lot of money to get and keep.

Again, I live in Western Europe, which is the target state for a lot of the public transport activists in North America. There are a lot of cars here. When we moved here, we downsized from two cars to one, and the “little” car by US standards became the “big” car by European standards, but we still have it, although we use it a fair bit less. I don’t have to use it to commute, and the kids can take public transport (which is a big thing too: we don’t have to drive them all over the place).

So as public transport gets better, you’ll probably see more households decide they just need one car instead of two, but it’s pretty doubtful private car ownership is going to drop off a cliff, and we need to deal with that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2022 • 4:37:53am

re: #54 ericblair

Not to mention that I need a car for my line of work (mostly tourism, which involves getting to locations on time, along with playing music, which involves hauling instruments and gear and leaving at odd hours when there is little other option)

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Thanos  Jan 7, 2022 • 4:42:16am

I’m in favor of both great self driving cars and great public transport. To me the latter should also be lux and free. (e.g. like a first class air accommodation with internet, etc, etc,) If we are going to lure folks away from private transport then we’ve got to make public transport more appealing.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 7, 2022 • 4:44:22am

re: #56 Thanos

I’m in favor of both great self driving cars and great public transport. To me the latter should also be lux and free. (e.g. like a first class air accommodation with internet, etc, etc,) If we are going to lure folks away from private transport then we’ve got to make public transport more appealing.

The problem is, that takes money, and Republicans are against spending money on anything that actually makes people’s lives better. They only want to spend money when it 1) makes ordinary people miserable, or 2) makes rich people even richer.

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Dangerman  Jan 7, 2022 • 4:48:32am

re: #25 Targetpractice

In the MAGAt vocabulary, “personal responsibility” means you bear the responsibility for my actions. If I come to work knowing (or strongly suspecting) I have COVID and one of my coworkers is dead two weeks later, it’s his fault for not taking precautions against my lack of responsibility.

re: #26 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just like “You are free to follow the tenets of my religion”.

see also: guns

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Thanos  Jan 7, 2022 • 4:50:24am

re: #57 Dopamine Fish

The problem is, that takes money, and Republicans are against spending money on anything that actually makes people’s lives better. They only want to spend money when it 1) makes ordinary people miserable, or 2) makes rich people even richer.

Agreed, but it takes money we are going to have to spend. The Republicans can only hang on for dear life because their laffer curve / trickle down / austerity bullshit is only resonating with their hard core base and not the general public anymore. This power structure they have breaks within a decade -OR- we slump into fascism, so I’m picking the optimistic vision because I’m indefatigable that way.

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ericblair  Jan 7, 2022 • 4:51:37am

re: #57 Dopamine Fish

The problem is, that takes money, and Republicans are against spending money on anything that actually makes people’s lives better. They only want to spend money when it 1) makes ordinary people miserable, or 2) makes rich people even richer.

There’s also good old racism. If you create good public transport to your area, then Those People can get to your neighborhood and rape your TVs and do whatever else they do before taking the 7:35 local train back to Badpeopleville.

Happens in Europe, too; if you take a close look at transit maps and know where the “good” areas are, there’s often a correlation with lack of service and higher average income.

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Dangerman  Jan 7, 2022 • 4:51:53am

re: #33 ericblair

Understood, but the way it’s worded goes way beyond that. I take public transport to work 90% of the time, because it’s convenient and more pleasant than sitting in traffic, and for some cities like Amsterdam, Paris, or London it’s crazy to drive there when you can just take the high-speed train.

But still most people here have at least one car, and it’s not reasonable to think that US private car ownership is all going to go away because a bunch of US cities have decent public transport again. We have to work on both public transport and lower-impact private transport.

Porque no los dos,
the middle way,
Etc

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2022 • 4:53:11am

re: #59 Thanos

… This power structure [the GOP] have breaks within a decade -OR- we slump into fascism, so I’m picking the optimistic vision because I’m indefatigable that way.

I am pretty defagitated lately: mostly because I get the impression that enough of Moderate Middle America is apathetic or clueless enough to let them get away with their minority agenda.

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Thanos  Jan 7, 2022 • 4:53:28am

re: #60 ericblair

The Barrytown factor

steely dan - barrytown

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 7, 2022 • 4:54:21am

re: #60 ericblair

There’s also good old racism. If you create good public transport to your area, then Those People can get to your neighborhood and rape your TVs and do whatever else they do before taking the 7:35 local train back to Badpeopleville.

Happens in Europe, too; if you take a close look at transit maps and know where the “good” areas are, there’s often a correlation with lack of service and higher average income.

If that’s what they’re worried about, they’re even crazier than I thought.///

The whole post is a good point, though. See, e.g., New York and the “we’re gonna build overpasses that are too short for buses so Those People can’t have access to nice things” shenanigannery.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2022 • 4:55:41am

re: #64 Dopamine Fish

The only bus service is so that the maids and nannies can get to their jobs in the ‘burbs

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 7, 2022 • 4:58:18am

re: #5 Targetpractice

If Tucker had demanded it in that moment, Ted would have cut his own balls off on live TV to appease Hair Furor.

What balls?

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 7, 2022 • 4:58:39am

re: #66 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What balls?

The ones that are in Trump’s purse, of course.

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Dangerman  Jan 7, 2022 • 4:59:09am

re: #48 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

He is of the stated opinion they should finish the investigations, punish the offenders, and get on with things. Implying that the Democrats are dragging things out for political purposes while seemingly ignoring the constant GOP roadblocks and obstruction of the investigation, etc.

He is not a complete wingnut, since if he was I would simply quit talking to him. But at times he seems clueless or unaware of what the Republicans have been doing. I suspect that he is generally ignoring political news and very little is filtering in since he has different priorities than paying attention to it. And with the nature of our national news media the bits that filter in are anti-Biden and anti-Democrat simply to that appearing to be the default mode.

Get on with things…

Granted its civil, but tfg has been fighting release of his taxes for four years.

Due process flows like molasses

Should new York stste, new York city, House ways and means just wrap it up and move on?

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Thanos  Jan 7, 2022 • 5:00:48am

Short PSA: Cinemablend’s Television premier dates schedule, scroll down for the schedule

cinemablend.com

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Thanos  Jan 7, 2022 • 5:15:33am
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Belafon  Jan 7, 2022 • 5:22:22am
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jeffreyw  Jan 7, 2022 • 5:30:38am

Miss Bea

Good morning!

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Belafon  Jan 7, 2022 • 5:41:57am
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Belafon  Jan 7, 2022 • 5:42:35am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2022 • 5:45:54am

re: #74 Belafon

We look on health care as just another commercial commodity, as we do with education.

Those are bad long-term choices for a society to make.

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Thanos  Jan 7, 2022 • 5:49:28am

re: #73 Belafon

It might be a bit much for some — but it works for me : you can extend the life of an n95 mask by covering it with a cloth mask, and you can also sterilize it a few times without degrading it by steaming it in hydrogen peroxide. Dampen paper towel with 3% solution H202, suspend mask above dampened towel in microwave, microwave on medium for 45 to 90 seconds. Really high heat degrades the mask, so the goal here is to let the steam perfuse the mask without overheating.

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Teukka  Jan 7, 2022 • 5:55:19am

re: #76 Thanos

It might be a bit much for some — but it works for me : you can extend the life of an n95 mask by covering it with a cloth mask, and you can also sterilize it a few times without degrading it by steaming it in hydrogen peroxide. Dampen paper towel with 3% solution H202, suspend mask above dampened towel in microwave, microwave on medium for 45 to 90 seconds. Really high heat degrades the mask, so the goal here is to let the steam perfuse the mask without overheating.

FWIW, I’ve been using IIR’s for more than a year, following protocol:
1) Mask MUST cover both your nose and mouth.
2) Mask MUST seal over nose. Always pinch the wire on the mask edge over the nose so it fits snugly.
3) Mask itself MUST NOT be touched once you have pinched the wire over your nose. Only touch strings.
4)
  a) You MUST replace the mask if it gets too wet/damp inside.
  b) You SHOULD replace the mask if you suspect exposure.
  c) You MUST replace the mask at least every 3 hours.
5) You MUST NOT touch the old mask itself when replacing it, only the strings.
These rules apply for cloth, surgical (IIR), *94 and *95 masks alike, but are the most important for surgical and cloth masks.
MUST, MUST NOT and SHOULD are to be interpreted as specified in RFC 2119.

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sagehen  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:09:32am

December jobs report:

199,000 jobs (which, like the last few months, will probably be revised upward)

3.9% jobless rate.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:18:45am

re: #78 sagehen

December jobs report:

199,000 jobs (which, like the last few months, will probably be revised upward)

3.9% jobless rate.

“But we’re all suffering from Bidenflation!”

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:24:27am

re: #5 Targetpractice

If Tucker had demanded it in that moment, Ted would have cut his own balls off on live TV to appease Hair Furor.

He would have to find them first.

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Dangerman  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:38:23am

Remember this story??

When Andreas Flaten didn’t receive his final paycheck from a former employer last January, he complained about it, calling up the US Department of Labor to lodge an accusation of wage theft. That employer responded by leaving more than 91,000 pennies on his driveway in Fayetteville, Georgia.

Well

Now the US government is suing that company, arguing the act constituted illegal retaliation.

In a complaint filed with a federal court in Georgia, the Department of Labor accuses A OK Walker Autoworks and its owner, Miles Walker, of more than just pettiness.

The lawsuit claims the auto-repair shop bilked its workers out of money they were owed. The lawsuit accuses the company of “repeatedly and willfully” failing to pay time and a half for overtime, instead relying on a flat rate of pay regardless of whether someone worked more than 40 hours in a week.

businessinsider.com

Like tfg running for office
If you’re gonna crime, best to keep a low profile

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makeitstop  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:42:01am

I didn’t read the whole thread. Is it just me, or did that whole Ted Cruz groveling thing seem staged to anyone else?

Felt like pro wrestling minus McMahon to me.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:45:17am

I appreciated Hoarse, but stopped paying attention awhile ago. But I saw someone retweet this and thought it was spot-on. It reflects something I was thinking earlier:

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mmmirele  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:45:54am

First World Problems…this is day three of this guy needling on me. He’s trying to get me to block him, but I won’t do it because I block when I want, not when some asshat decides he’s going to try and get me to block him. He’s a supporter of the Southern Baptist Executive Committee members who resigned because they refused to give up legal privilege so the SBC’s coverup of child sexual abuse can be investigated. I guess I have another day of throwing articles about clergy rapists at him. (I am assuming this is a “him.”)

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Belafon  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:47:16am
Anti-vaxxer Robert Kennedy Jr. is suing Daily Kos, trying to force us to reveal the identity of one of our community members. We’re telling him to go pound sand. Lawyers are involved. You can get the background here, here, here, here, here, here, and here. In short, community member DowneastDem wrote about Kennedy cavorting with Nazis at a Berlin rally. Kennedy then sued in New York court to reveal her or his identity. Kennedy claims he wants to sue for defamation, but he’s refused to sue any other media outlet reporting on the Nazi rally, and he’s refused to sue me and Daily Kos, even though I’ve said much worse things about him. Kennedy is attempting to dox a community member for criticizing him, and we’re refusing to let him do it. The great folks at Public Citizen are providing that community member with pro bono legal services.

Kennedy won the first round in New York state court, which allowed him to try and get the blogger’s identity from us. But, we’re in California, and a California court said “nope” and quashed the subpoena, pending the outcome of any New York appeals. So we’re now back in New York, where we have appealed the trial court’s decision. In the final days of 2021, we got unexpectedly great news on that front, as the entire media establishment has filed an amicus brief supporting our First Amendment fight.

The brief was written by The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, joined by 11 media companies and organizations: The E.W. Scripps Company, First Amendment Coalition (the nation’s fourth-largest local TV broadcaster with 61 stations), The Media Institute, MediaNews Group (which owns over 100 newspapers and 200 other assorted news platforms), New York News Publishers Association, New York Public Radio, The New York Times Company, Online News Association, Radio Television Digital News Association, Society of Professional Journalists, and the Tully Center for Free Speech at Syracuse University. This means the full weight of the media establishment has joined in on our side. As they write in their brief, “Amici thus have a strong interest in ensuring that New York courts apply a standard for pre-suit disclosure of anonymous online speakers’ identities that appropriately accounts for the First Amendment interests in such speech.”

To recap, the New York trial court ruled that there was no harm in unmasking DowneastDem because she or he could then defend against defamation in court. The judge was unpersuaded by our argument that the unmasking was the sole purpose of Kennedy’s lawsuit, not defamation, and would impact both the diarist, and everyone else’s ability to comment on current events anonymously without fear of public reprisal—a right enjoyed from the very founding of our nation.

dailykos.com

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:47:53am

re: #42 sagehen

80% of Americans live in urban areas. Better public transport within cities, and between cities, would be a good enough reason to persuade 1/2 of American car owners to junk their cars instead of replacing them when the vehicles reach the end of their useful life, and use the occasional rental instead of owning.

Bad news maybe for GM and Ford, but they can start manufacturing buses and streetcars instead. From 1943 to 1945, there were 0 consumer cars manufactured. There’s no such thing as a ‘44 Chevy or a ‘45 Cadillac. And y’know, the companies did just fine.

OH HAI from Motown! GM does manufacture buses, it is called the “GM Coach Division.”

That said, Detroit did have a thriving public transportation system up to the 1950’s when it was dismantled at the behest of GM, Ford and Chrysler. I took the bus every day to high school downtown from my home in northwest Detroit during the ‘60’s.

In the ‘90’s I worked for a while at the SMART (Suburban Michigan Authority Regional Transportation) facility in Oakland County, which was allowed to take passengers as far as 8 Mile where they then had to transfer to a DDOT (Detroit Department of Transportation) bus to get to their job in the city of Detroit. I got free bus passes for everyone in my family but nobody ever used them because the bus service was so sporadic and involved too many transfers.

I asked my boss why SMART and DDOT didn’t just merge and he rolled his eyes and muttered “fucked up politics.”

After that I went to work at Ford and never talked about public transportation ever again.

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makeitstop  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:49:19am

re: #83 Barefoot Grin

I appreciated Hoarse, but stopped paying attention awhile ago.

Hoarse takes his Twitter celebrity way too seriously. He’s still pretty good at moments, but most of the time he comes off like a total asshole.

Dog forbid you disagree with one of his posts. Then you’re forced to catch another recitation about how people with low follower counts can’t possibly have opinions as valid as his.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:49:31am

re: #82 makeitstop

I didn’t read the whole thread. Is it just me, or did that whole Ted Cruz groveling thing seem staged to anyone else?

Felt like pro wrestling minus McMahon to me.

I think you give Ted too much credit.

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lawhawk  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:51:04am

re: #10 Belafon

Left flank veterans seem to have a problem with spelling.

Overthrow.

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mmmirele  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:52:01am

re: #53 Shropshire Slasher

Oh the power of makeup. Her color in not good.
You gotta cook the meatball in the sauce!

I never wear makeup…I think my color is good. (For the record, I have a layer of freckles on top of the white skin. Otherwise I’d look like a ghost.)

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makeitstop  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:53:10am

re: #88 Barefoot Grin

I think you give Ted too much credit.

Maybe. But on the other hand, if Tucker was really mad at Cruz and wanted him excommunicated (like Gorka demanded this morning), why even have him on the show?

It was a rehab session to quiet the rubes. At least it looked like one to me.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:55:03am
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lawhawk  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:55:26am

re: #73 Belafon

I purchased a batch of KN95s to upgrade my double masking efforts.

Bought from costco, though they’re now out of stock there.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:55:49am

re: #91 makeitstop

Maybe. But on the other hand, if Tucker was really mad at Cruz and wanted him excommunicated (like Gorka demanded this morning), why even have him on the show?

It was a rehab session to quiet the rubes. At least it looked like one to me.

That’s interesting. I just saw the Seb Gorka thing. Christ. Anyway, so purify Cruz as a MAGA-douche-extraordinaire by fire?

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:57:17am

re: #93 lawhawk

I purchased a batch of KN95s to upgrade my double masking efforts.

Bought from costco, though they’re now out of stock there.

I need some. I saw someone post that he stocked up a couple of months ago at $60/box and now the same product is $77/box.

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makeitstop  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:59:35am

re: #94 Barefoot Grin

That’s interesting. I just saw the Seb Gorka thing. Christ. Anyway, so purify Cruz as a MAGA-douche-extraordinaire by fire?

Seemed like it. It was too pat.

Tucker’s whole ‘Whoa, whoa, whoa, I don’t buy that! Explain yourself!’ sounded like it was set up before hand.

I could be wrong, but I got a big whiff of kayfabe from the whole segment.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:03:10am

re: #83 Barefoot Grin

I appreciated Hoarse, but stopped paying attention awhile ago. But I saw someone retweet this and thought it was spot-on. It reflects something I was thinking earlier:

The media is saying 199,000 jobs created in December is “disappointing.” But 1, this is a rough preliminary estimate; the October numbers were revised upward by over 100k jobs in the same report. 2, this was into the teeth of another Winter surge of Covid; last December, over 300k jobs were lost. 3, 2021 was the greatest job creation year ever, with over 6.4 million jobs created; unemployment has dropped to historically low levels. Pretty much everyone who wants a job has one.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:04:31am

re: #97 No Malarkey!

The media is saying 199,000 jobs created in December is “disappointing.” But 1, this is a rough preliminary estimate; the October numbers were revised upward by over 100k jobs in the same report. 2, this was into the teeth of another Winter surge of Covid; last December, over 300k jobs were lost. 3, 2021 was the greatest job creation year ever, with over 6.4 million jobs created; unemployment has dropped to historically low levels. Pretty much everyone who wants a job has one.

Butbutbut what about the narrative that employers can’t get workers because of extended unemployment? How is that possible?!?!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:06:38am

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Dangerman  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:06:46am

re: #88 Barefoot Grin

I think you give Ted too much credit.

like all those times we thought tfg was playing x-dimensional chess
because he was president and we assume a president should be able to

…when

The truth is, these are not very bright guys…*

*deep throat

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:07:12am

re: #98 Dopamine Fish

Butbutbut what about the narrative that employers can’t get workers because of extended unemployment? How is that possible?!?!

The counter-spin is that Bidenflation is eating up all our hard-earned wages.

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darthstar  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:07:37am

re: #1 sagehen

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Wife just played that in bed. Awesome.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:10:24am
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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:11:29am

Teukka is this correct?

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Dangerman  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:11:47am

re: #93 lawhawk

I purchased a batch of KN95s to upgrade my double masking efforts.

Bought from costco, though they’re now out of stock there.

we’re upgrading from cloth with insert to kn95/kf94

I think we’ve been vigilant and lucky so far.
with mrsdm’s condition, we need to decrease our reliance on the luck factor

last friday we ordered a 50 pack of kn95 from amazon ($62, WWDOLL)
the eta was 1/31 - 2/4
monday I got an update they are arriving today

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lawhawk  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:12:55am

Rest in Power Mr. Tibbs:

In the Heat of the Night (4/10) Movie CLIP - They Call Me Mr. Tibbs (1967) HD

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Dangerman  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:13:59am

re: #97 No Malarkey!

The media is saying 199,000 jobs created in December is “disappointing.” But 1, this is a rough preliminary estimate; the October numbers were revised upward by over 100k jobs in the same report. 2, this was into the teeth of another Winter surge of Covid; last December, over 300k jobs were lost. 3, 2021 was the greatest job creation year ever, with over 6.4 million jobs created; unemployment has dropped to historically low levels. Pretty much everyone who wants a job has one.

the media goes through this every time a number is released

it’s like the election night horse race of who’s ahead
meaningless - until all the votes are counted. the order they’re counted is irrelevant.

this too is meaningless, until all the adjustments and corrections are in.

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Dangerman  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:15:24am

re: #102 darthstar

Wife just played that in bed. Awesome.

fortune cookie?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:17:23am

re: #97 No Malarkey!

I’m not an economist, but I do know that typically December is a not a great month for job growth. The service sector has done all their seasonal hiring and on the corporate side, companies are waiting for new fiscal years to begin (and new budgets to be available) before bringing in more bodies.

(Yes, I know many companies have fiscal years that don’t exactly match the calendar year.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:23:41am

re: #104 The Pie Overlord!

I have friends in Finland and have visited there a lot (Ryanair used to do cheap flights from Hahn airport, not far from where I live) and find that their approach to life and work and society in general is very humane and people-centric and it seems to work.

But moving there is out of the question, not because of the climate, which is not that much worse than what I grew up with in the Midwest, but for the extremes of daylight and darkness. And I don’t drink very much or very often, which would put me at a great social disadvantage.

I would be more than happy to keep a little lakeside cabin with a sauna to visit a few weeks a year to enjoy the White Nights in summer or the Northern Lights & cross-country skiing in winter but if I lived there permanently I would grow depressive and self-destructive.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:26:29am

Regarding our shady friends the Cyber Ninjas and being found in contempt of court: Apparently, it just kept getting worse.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:26:48am

re: #72 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Dangerman  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:31:59am

they thought this would be a springboard of sorts

no one told them ETTD

Cyber Ninjas Fires All Staff and Will Shut Down After Shambolic Arizona Election Audit

“Cyber Ninjas is shutting down. All employees have been let go,” Rod Thomson, the company’s representative, told NBC News Thursday night. The dramatic announcement came a day after elections officials in Maricopa County determined that 76 of the 77 claims made in the Cyber Ninjas report into the county’s 2020 election were false or misleading…

bankruptcy / being poor is not a defense.
ask scads of people in jail who can’t make bail or afford a top flight lawyer

interesting that of late, a bunch of these top flight lawyers also end up not getting paid.
they’re really not very good at this at all.

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Dangerman  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:32:38am

re: #111 Dopamine Fish

re: #113 Dangerman

gmta

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:32:47am

re: #114 Dangerman

gmta

So do ours.

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Sherlock Hound  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:37:06am

re: #89 lawhawk

Left flank veterans seem to have a problem with spelling.

Overthrow.

It’s exactly how a Russian disinfo op would go.

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makeitstop  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:39:23am

The Press Secretary Who Never Held A Press Conference seems to be turning into a valuable witness.

Still not gonna wash off that Trump stank, but I’ll give her points for trying.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:40:20am

re: #93 lawhawk

I purchased a batch of KN95s to upgrade my double masking efforts.

Bought from costco, though they’re now out of stock there.

Same here, even to their being out of stock now, except I used amazon. Having issues getting the mask to seal enough that it doesn’t fog my glasses, a problem I didn’t have with cloth-and- surgical.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:42:05am

re: #117 makeitstop

The Press Secretary Who Never Held A Press Conference seems to be turning into a valuable witness.

Still not gonna wash off that Trump stank, but I’ll give her points for trying.

When seeking witnesses to a criminal conspiracy, you won’t find them among the saints.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:42:22am

re: #113 Dangerman

interesting that of late, a bunch of these top flight lawyers also end up not getting paid.
they’re really not very good at this at all.

Anybody who works for scam artists should insist on a retainer…

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darthstar  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:43:56am

re: #106 lawhawk

Rest in Power Mr. Tibbs:

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One of my all time favorite actors. Going to always appreciate his movies.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:44:17am

My brother-in-law is having a second bout of Covid; he hadn’t gotten a booster shot yet. The husband of a woman I know who got covid works with a bunch of guys who brag about how many times they have had Covid.

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darthstar  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:45:16am

re: #117 makeitstop

The Press Secretary Who Never Held A Press Conference seems to be turning into a valuable witness.

[Embedded content]

Still not gonna wash off that Trump stank, but I’ll give her points for trying.

SHE WAS A MOLE!!

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Dangerman  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:50:28am

re: #120 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Anybody who works for scam artists should insist on a retainer…

correct

all these people seem have it backwards:
take on the big case
win
earn a rep and notoriety leading to more cases
get paid

it’s a tell if a potential client balks at a retainer
if they wont let a lawyer hold escrowed funds, they’re certainly not going to pay later

retainers are a bit easier with tax cases
we already already know you don’t pay your bills

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:55:35am

re: #81 Dangerman

When Andreas Flaten didn’t receive his final paycheck from a former employer last January, he complained about it, calling up the US Department of Labor to lodge an accusation of wage theft. That employer responded by leaving more than 91,000 pennies on his driveway in Fayetteville, Georgia.

Well

Now the US government is suing that company, arguing the act constituted illegal retaliation.

In a complaint filed with a federal court in Georgia, the Department of Labor accuses A OK Walker Autoworks and its owner, Miles Walker, of more than just pettiness.

The lawsuit claims the auto-repair shop bilked its workers out of money they were owed. The lawsuit accuses the company of “repeatedly and willfully” failing to pay time and a half for overtime, instead relying on a flat rate of pay regardless of whether someone worked more than 40 hours in a week.

businessinsider.com

Like tfg running for office
If you’re gonna crime, best to keep a low profile

This is why the yokel gentry HATE the Federal Government. Wage chiseling has become an epidemic during the last 30 years, probably part of the lepertarian fallout from the Reagan years. I personally know at least 6 small business owners who have been fined and forced to pay huge settlements for overtime violations alone. One of them lost his business because he could not raise $300K to pay the back wages and fines. He owed one long time employee $68K in back overtime. He is a “mighty man of God,” a highly regarded Sunday school teacher and deacon at one of the Baptist gun churches in Lubbock.
If you could load my contempt for these scumbags into bombs and shells, the resulting weapons would be banned by the Geneva Conventions.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:05:17am

And the wheel goes ‘round again, as Texas continues to argue over its virtue-signaling SB8, the bill that lets people sue the pants off of anyone remotely related to an abortion, anywhere in the country, and bankrupt them even if they don’t win:

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:11:07am

re: #126 Dopamine Fish

It looks like the case is going to be headed to the Supreme Court of Texas, and thus, the federal courts will have done nothing to enjoin this absurd and blatantly unconstitutional law from being in force - which is, of course, entirely the point of such a thing originating in Texas, where the Fifth Circuit has been legislating from the bench for quite some time.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:14:33am

re: #97 No Malarkey!

The media is saying 199,000 jobs created in December is “disappointing.” But 1, this is a rough preliminary estimate; the October numbers were revised upward by over 100k jobs in the same report. 2, this was into the teeth of another Winter surge of Covid; last December, over 300k jobs were lost. 3, 2021 was the greatest job creation year ever, with over 6.4 million jobs created; unemployment has dropped to historically low levels. Pretty much everyone who wants a job has one.

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jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:17:27am

re: #84 mmmirele

Eric Boehlert:

Joe Rogan sounds like the new Rush Limbaugh

“…Late last year, popular podcast host Joe Rogan invited onto his show Dr. Robert Malone, a world-class Covid denier and medical quack, who told Rogan’s millions of listeners that public health experts advocating for vaccines today are akin to Nazi’s in the 1930s. Getting vaccinated against a deadly virus was a sign of “mass formation psychosis,” and Malone suggested Biden was leading a hypnotized cult. It was a misinformation-fest that Rogan said at the time he hoped would go viral.

It did. Then the whole thing got banned by YouTube, where the Joe Rogan Experience gets uploaded, for violating the platform’s rules about trafficking in pandemic lies. It was the latest, reckless example of a once-libertarian podcast host with an eclectic past (actor, comedian, “cage-fighting commentator”), hitching his wagon to conservative lies and distortion, as he whips up distrust of the government and science.

As Rogan takes a hard turn to the right, you get the feeling he wants to be the new Rush Limbaugh — the source of GOP misinformation and conspiracies. More than any other daytime talker, it’s Rogan who could fill Limbaugh’s shoes after the GOP host passed away last year.

Like Limbaugh, Rogan preaches to a mostly male audience of roughly 10 million that wallows in victimhood while the host lashes out at imaginary forces trying to keep the White Man down in America. (“Straight white men are not allowed to talk.”) Like Limbaugh, Rogan faces no consequences for peddling ceaseless lies. “
pressrun.media

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:24:18am

re: #25 Targetpractice

In the MAGAt vocabulary, “personal responsibility” means you bear the responsibility for my actions. If I come to work knowing (or strongly suspecting) I have COVID and one of my coworkers is dead two weeks later, it’s his fault for not taking precautions against my lack of responsibility.

Also:

Covid is a mild illness, especially since Omicron, and you should not live in fear of catching it

and

It’s illegal immigrants spreading it, not unvaccinated Americans. Biden and his handlers refuse to acknowledge this.

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jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:25:40am
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Belafon  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:31:57am

re: #129 jaunte

So is Rogan gay, not white, or a woman?

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jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:32:57am

re: #132 Belafon

No self-reflection, please, we’re conservatives!

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:33:33am

re: #90 mmmirele

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I never wear makeup…I think my color is good. (For the record, I have a layer of freckles on top of the white skin. Otherwise I’d look like a ghost.)

You are sweet and beautiful and thank you for posting!
Happy Friday!!!!

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jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:34:10am

SCOTUS considering whether OSHA should be able to respond to Covid.

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jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:34:47am
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mmmirele  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:36:06am

Hoo boy, this is shaking a lot of people up. I didn’t know that Citi had put an absolute “you must be vaxxed” mandate in. My evil too big to fail employer wants to know if you’re vaxxed but has said nothing beyond “if/when we return to the office you’ll have to undergo testing” regarding unvaccinated persons,

I have to wonder with Citi going this route, if other banks will follow. And I’m wondering, since Citi is in a lot of foreign countries, whether what some foreign governments (I’m thinking France in particular, but also China) are doing regarding vaccination isn’t driving this. Your guess is as good as mine.

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jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:37:58am
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jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:38:38am

Ivermectin facepalm.

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jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:41:28am
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jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:42:33am

Antivaxxers have lost their tiny minds.

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jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:44:46am
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Belafon  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:48:22am

re: #142 jaunte

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Alito is second guessing OSHA because he doesn’t believe it should exist.

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jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:49:49am

re: #143 Belafon

He’s angry imagining the people accusing him of wanting more death, just because he wants more death.

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jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:50:18am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:51:38am

re: #111 Dopamine Fish

Regarding our shady friends the Cyber Ninjas and being found in contempt of court: Apparently, it just kept getting worse.

How can a judge force a lawyer to work without getting paid?

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:55:40am

re: #146 Eclectic Cyborg

How can a judge force a lawyer to work without getting paid?

I am not a lawyer, but I’ve read through several tweet threads concerning this issue. As far as I’ve been able to gather, this is not a thing that commonly happens UNLESS a case gets to the point like the Cyber Ninjas garbage, where sanctions and contempt of court are in play. In that case, judges routinely deny lawyers’ motions for withdrawal in order to ensure continuity and to Just Get Stuff Done, preventing the party at issue from being able to delay cooperation with the court’s orders by shuffling lawyers around. The “without pay” part is fairly rare, and appears to be a de facto sanction of the lawyer - “I’m not going to let you withdraw, even if you’re not being paid, because you’re being an asshole and I just want this shit to get done now.”

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:58:24am

re: #146 Eclectic Cyborg

How can a judge force a lawyer to work without getting paid?

I suspect that the lawyer, while employed by the plaintiff, was enjoined to produce the documentation as a representative of his client. So they are on the hook to the court to produce the materials. I expect they can request to be personally let out of the requirement, which the lawyer has. But the judge doesn’t have to accept it since the payment issue is between the lawyer and the client.

And I also suspect the judge is not feeling lenient given that his (and courts in general) and public money has been wasted in this frivolous fishing expedition.

(And if a lawyer/client combo could dodge or delay producing demanded materials by claiming non-payment of fees if would be a pretty common tactic. I expect that Cyberninjas claiming bankruptcy and closing is not going to get everyone off the hook either.)

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nines09  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:58:52am

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:00:13am

Floof Cat found the snow entertaining for about thirty seconds.

“Wet paw. Wet paw. Nope Nope Nope.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:01:16am

re: #147 Dopamine Fish

re: #148 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Thank you both for the insights.

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jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:02:23am

SCOTUS is infested with fantasists.

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jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:03:30am
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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:03:37am

T’is only a flesh wound!

“Only a flesh wound.”

A laughable Twitter post on the Battle of Waterloo, which currently boasts over 80,000 likes, is being ripped online after claiming that a French soldier was only “wounded” despite sporting a gaping cannonball hole in his armor.

“Armor of a soldier wounded by a cannonball at the Battle of Waterloo in 1815,” reads the caption to the 18-second Twitter clip, which was posted Jan. 3 by Twitter user @TheFigen.

The accompanying footage shows a French soldier’s breastplate — currently on display at the Musee de l’Armee in Paris — which sports holes in the front and back from where a cannonball entered and exited, likely killing him instantaneously.

nypost.com

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:03:56am

re: #152 jaunte

SCOTUS is infested with fantasists.

I love how they can just make baseless assertions on this, as if they’re experts, rather than asking questions and, if the attorneys in the room don’t have an answer, taking a note to FIND the actual answer before proceeding.

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makeitstop  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:06:21am

Joe’s in no fucks mode today.

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jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:06:55am
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jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:07:34am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:08:10am
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Dopamine Fish  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:08:28am

re: #158 jaunte

The emergency ends when the disease is no longer infecting millions of Americans at a time, you useless bint.

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jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:09:05am

re: #160 Dopamine Fish

“What’s the big deal? I feel fine.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:10:26am

SCOTUS is going to keep fucking us all, aren’t they?

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:10:58am

re: #162 Eclectic Cyborg

SCOTUS is going to keep fucking us all, aren’t they?

That is the job for which they have been inappropriately appointed, yes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:11:30am
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Belafon  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:12:26am

re: #162 Eclectic Cyborg

SCOTUS is going to keep fucking us all, aren’t they?

Without our consent, and we’re going to have to carry it to term.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:12:37am

re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth

Let’s see how long it takes me to get suspended today.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:13:25am

re: #162 Eclectic Cyborg

SCOTUS is going to keep fucking us all, aren’t they?

When people said how important it was to not let a fascist party steal control of the court they weren’t kidding around.

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jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:14:15am
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A Cranky One  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:15:02am

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:15:22am

re: #106 lawhawk

Rest in Power Mr. Tibbs:

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LuLu (To Sir With Love)

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jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:16:00am

re: #169 A Cranky One

The Original Inappropriate Birthday Gift.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:16:18am

re: #144 jaunte

He’s angry imagining the people accusing him of wanting more death, just because he wants more death.

I am all in favor of his being blamed and his name prominently displayed as being responsible for people dying. Let’s see this political hack get totally discredited publicly.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:16:50am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:19:31am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:22:36am

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

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lawhawk  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:25:51am

So, today’s job report.

Biden’s 199,000+ new jobs added is a disappointment. Uh.. yeah. About that.

For December, it’s better than 75% of Trump’s term. For December going back a decade, it’s on par with about half of the monthly job gains.

It’s still better than 25% of Trump’s monthly job totals, including when the media was falling over themselves to claim that it was a strong economy.

I’m guessing if you took a poll and asked people what the unemployment rate was, you’d probably get people claiming it was 8-10% or higher (U-6 official rate).

It’s 3.9%.

The media is relentless in downplaying the economic recovery under Biden.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:26:10am

re: #146 Eclectic Cyborg

How can a judge force a lawyer to work without getting paid?

By denying his motion to withdraw from the case.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:29:41am
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No Malarkey!  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:34:10am

re: #163 Dopamine Fish

That is the job for which they have been inappropriately appointed, yes.

Yes, they have been appointed for the purpose of enacting a conservative policy agenda judicially which is too unpopular to be enacted through legislation.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:36:04am

re: #179 No Malarkey!

I was watching a stand-up comic on Netflix last night. At one point he said: “Just to be clear, my comedy is not political. I don’t care if you’re Conservative or a decent human being.”

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:36:36am

re: #179 No Malarkey!

Yes, they have been appointed for the purpose of enacting a conservative policy agenda judicially which is too unpopular to be enacted through legislation.

That’s what Conservatives worldwide do. This is our backward-Christian version of a Guardian Council now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:36:55am

jeebus

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lawhawk  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:37:10am

re: #135 jaunte

The entire right wing - GOP, Federalists, etc. are all about trying to end the administrative state. They’re out to destroy OSHA and every other regulatory body. The mandates are just one aspect of this.

They don’t want government overseeing anything. They want to let companies run rampant - except when they do the things the right wing lunatics don’t want (like initiate mandates to vaccinate or terminate at-will employees for failure to comply). They are out to sabotage functioning government, and the Supreme Court’s right wing extremists are more than willing to do so - lying every step of the way, by purposefully introducing lies and misinformation about conditions, statistics, and evidence.

The number of cases of influenza each year, and the average death rates are available from the CDC. We know what the average flu season looks like.

Covid wasn’t the flu.

In a bad year, we might get 60-80,000 deaths from influenza when there’s vaccinations that can help reduce that death toll.

Covid killed 10x as many in two years as the worst flu year. It wrecked health care systems. It led to excess mortality that isn’t captured directly in covid19 direct deaths.

2019 saw just under 50,000 influenza deaths. Since January 2020, we’ve seen 850,000+ deaths from covid. Do the fucking math for the SCOTUS anti-science cretins.

This is not mere conjecture. The number of deaths over the past two years are so much higher than any prior year that it leaps off the page.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:40:26am

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

Because strongly manly men always wait until the DAY AFTER to respond to someones attack on them.

/

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lawhawk  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:42:34am
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makeitstop  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:45:19am

Am I being greedy for wanting someone to drop another news bomb on Trump today?

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mmmirele  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:46:22am

re: #81 Dangerman

Remember this story??

Well

Like tfg running for office
If you’re gonna crime, best to keep a low profile

Yeah, this “employer” fucked around and is now finding out.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:47:00am

re: #185 lawhawk

I know we keep losing people where I work, even in my department where conditions are better than in some departments. If they’d stuck around, they would have earned a pension. It seems to be a really good time to change jobs and get a big salary increase.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:47:53am

re: #185 lawhawk

I don’t have to guess what the U6 unemployment rate is, because I look every month. Its 7.3%, lower than it was for nearly 18 years from 2001-2019.

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lawhawk  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:48:26am

re: #186 makeitstop

No. There should be these news stories on a daily basis. Once the 1/6 Commission rolls into public hearings, we should expect that.

We know that some of Trump’s sycophantic suckups have been cooperating with the Commission, and still others are bitching at Trump for not covering their legal bills (as if Trump’s paying for his own legal bills - he got the RNC to pick up his tab, and he’s more than happy to let everyone else flutter in the breeze). That doesn’t even begin to get into all the insurrectionists themselves realizing that they’ve got to pay for their criminal defense lawyers and Trump will not care what happens to them either.

We’ll continue to see more case dispositions of the 727 announced individuals, and more indictments to come. Just need the pace to pick up on all accounts.

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jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:53:25am
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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:53:34am
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:57:20am

It’s a really bad time to be a wealthy pedophile with a history of abusing teenagers.
Good.

EXCLUSIVE: Prince Andrew to sell £17m Swiss chalet with Queen NOT paying costs of sex abuse case (The Mirror)

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:57:22am

re: #192 The Pie Overlord!

Damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:57:27am

Lincoln Project on the two Teds.

Which Is It Ted?

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:02:33am

The whipped cream goes on just before serving.

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mmmirele  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:05:32am

re: #144 jaunte

He’s angry imagining the people accusing him of wanting more death, just because he wants more death.

Only some death. He cares oh so much about snowflake fetuses, but fuck everyone else after they are born. Alito is a horrible person.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:07:12am
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mmmirele  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:07:32am

re: #147 Dopamine Fish

I am not a lawyer, but I’ve read through several tweet threads concerning this issue. As far as I’ve been able to gather, this is not a thing that commonly happens UNLESS a case gets to the point like the Cyber Ninjas garbage, where sanctions and contempt of court are in play. In that case, judges routinely deny lawyers’ motions for withdrawal in order to ensure continuity and to Just Get Stuff Done, preventing the party at issue from being able to delay cooperation with the court’s orders by shuffling lawyers around. The “without pay” part is fairly rare, and appears to be a de facto sanction of the lawyer - “I’m not going to let you withdraw, even if you’re not being paid, because you’re being an asshole and I just want this shit to get done now.”

Yeah, that’s pretty much how I explained it to my brother yesterday. I noted that the judge REALLY wants this gone, because he rejected the Arizona Republic’s idea of only a $1,000/day fine, and instead imposed a $50,000/day fine (which is allowed by statute). As I told my brother, “the judge is telling these guys to shit or get off the pot.”

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EstebanTornado1963  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:10:44am

re: #162 Eclectic Cyborg

SCOTUS is going to keep fucking us all, aren’t they?

We let them do it because people are too lazy to vote.

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EstebanTornado1963  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:14:30am

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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wrenchwench  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:16:15am

re: #196 The Pie Overlord!

The whipped cream goes on just before serving.

What time?

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jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:21:26am
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No Malarkey!  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:22:42am

re: #201 EstebanTornado1963

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:23:17am

re: #201 EstebanTornado1963

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Having “ministries” in the name means nutter 99% of the time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:24:44am

re: #154 Shropshire Slasher

The accompanying footage shows a French soldier’s breastplate — currently on display at the Musee de l’Armee in Paris — which sports holes in the front and back from where a cannonball entered and exited, likely killing him instantaneously.

I saw that in person when I visited Paris, it was a near-religious experience.

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Captain Magic  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:25:25am

LANSING — The Michigan State Police is investigating allegations of sexual assault involving former House Speaker Lee Chatfield, according to an attorney representing the complainant.

Okemos attorney Jamie White said Chatfield sexually abused a girl, starting approximately 11 years ago when she was about 15 and ending only recently. The sexual contact began when Chatfield was working at a school and church the complainant attended near his home in northern Michigan, White said.

Michigan State Police spokeswoman Shanon Banner confirmed the department will investigate Chatfield after the Lansing Police Department referred a complaint to the state agency. She declined to provide details about the allegation, but referenced an article in Lansing City Pulse, which first reported the allegations against Chatfield.

Chatfield could not be reached for comment Thursday.

White previously represented dozens of women sexually assaulted by ex-gymnastics trainer Larry Nassar in a lawsuit against Michigan State University and still represents men suing the University of Michigan who say they were sexually assaulted by former trainer Robert Anderson.

He said Thursday there are further allegations against Chatfield. These include accusations related to misappropriation of public funds while he was in the Legislature. He declined to elaborate, except to say that the allegations relate to certain expenditures.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:25:28am

re: #203 jaunte

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:25:39am

re: #204 No Malarkey!

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lawhawk  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:27:56am

Bhwahaha.

Guy who has precisely zero experience can’t get on ballot because he doesn’t meet residency requirement.

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lawhawk  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:30:23am

*chef’s kiss*

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wrenchwench  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:31:20am

re: #210 lawhawk

Bhwahaha.

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Guy who has precisely zero experience can’t get on ballot because he doesn’t meet residency requirement.

Not a great way to start. Now he’s going to put more work and money into the ending.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:32:38am

re: #211 lawhawk

*chef’s kiss*

Incompetent narcissists never realize that they’re incompetent because every failure is someone else’s fault in their self-serving minds. They lack the feedback/correction mechanism that the rest of us have.

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mmmirele  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:34:16am

re: #188 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I know we keep losing people where I work, even in my department where conditions are better than in some departments. If they’d stuck around, they would have earned a pension. It seems to be a really good time to change jobs and get a big salary increase.

My issue with finding a new job is trying to explain what I do to a potential employer. My skill set is as a generalist. I’m VERY GOOD at asking the right questions in the right order to assess impact for an incident, to see if it’s worthy of my team’s time, or needs to be thrown back to the app support team. I’m VERY GOOD at herding techs through to a resolution when we have a major incident. I have a couple of decades of experience, and the ability to use that wealth of experience to ask oddball questions like “uhm, are we sure this isn’t impact from (fill in the blank with weird coincidence)?” And it turns out in the end that Weird Coincidence is actually the cause of the incident.

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That’s what I bring to the table. But a lot of companies don’t really have a separate, overall enterprise availability department like we do. And if they do, they expect people to have certain skill sets I do not have. *shrug*

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:34:40am

re: #213 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Incompetent narcissists never realize that they’re incompetent because every failure is someone else’s fault in their self-serving minds. They lack the feedback/correction mechanism that the rest of us have.

…and surround themselves only with yea-saying sycophants

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Dangerman  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:34:43am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:35:54am

re: #216 Dangerman

bad choice of analogy: remember that they escaped in Star Wars

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:36:06am

re: #210 lawhawk

Mr. Kristof’s family moved to a sheep and cherry farm in Yamhill, Ore., when he was a child, and his campaign had made the case that he saw the farm as home even as his life and career took him to other places in the country and around the world.

His campaign had argued, in part, that Oregon’s residency requirements had roots in historical racism as a way for white elites to hold on to power and exclude people of color or newcomers.

Sure, we’ll just let people govern one state while living in ANOTHER. Makes total sense.

/

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:37:00am

re: #217 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

bad choice of analogy: remember that they escaped in Star Wars

And they were the good guys. Terrible analogy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:37:30am

re: #218 Eclectic Cyborg

Mr. Kristof’s family moved to a sheep and cherry farm in Yamhill, Ore., when he was a child, and his campaign had made the case that he saw the farm as home even as his life and career took him to other places in the country and around the world.

His campaign had argued, in part, that Oregon’s residency requirements had roots in historical racism as a way for white elites to hold on to power and exclude people of color or newcomers.

Sure, we’ll just let people govern one state while living in ANOTHER. Makes total sense.

/

Fer chrissakes, even universities have a residency requirement for in-state tuition

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Dangerman  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:42:51am

re: #217 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

bad choice of analogy: remember that they escaped in Star Wars

They we’re clever and competent

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Dangerman  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:44:42am

re: #218 Eclectic Cyborg

Mr. Kristof’s family moved to a sheep and cherry farm in Yamhill, Ore., when he was a child, and his campaign had made the case that he saw the farm as home even as his life and career took him to other places in the country and around the world.

His campaign had argued, in part, that Oregon’s residency requirements had roots in historical racism as a way for white elites to hold on to power and exclude people of color or newcomers.

Sure, we’ll just let people govern one state while living in ANOTHER. Makes total sense.

/

Drivers license?
Where do you vote?
Get the bulk of your mail?

Also look at the Senate race in PA

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gocart mozart  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:46:10am

Dee Holmes, let’s see if Simon decides it’s worth his time to rip this choad a new asshole.

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Dangerman  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:46:26am

re: #219 Punish Domestic Terrorists

And they were the good guys. Terrible analogy.

We’re rewriting it. It’s fanfic.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:48:09am

re: #214 mmmirele

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:48:57am

re: #221 Dangerman

They we’re clever and competent

Actually, they would have all been flattened if R2 hadn’t been outside the compactor to shut it down. Somehow I don’t think these idiots have a competent R2 unit waiting outside to save them though.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:51:26am

re: #223 gocart mozart

Dee Holmes, let’s see if Simon decides it’s worth his time to rip this choad a new asshole.

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And that Taliban leader, how did he get out of prison anyway?

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:52:31am

re: #204 No Malarkey!

Report the lies. Thanks

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EstebanTornado1963  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:54:04am

re: #228 Patricia Kayden

Report the lies. Thanks

Reported. Twitter ain’t gonna do anything

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 7, 2022 • 11:02:09am

re: #223 gocart mozart

Dee Holmes, let’s see if Simon decides it’s worth his time to rip this choad a new asshole.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 7, 2022 • 11:21:24am

re: #218 Eclectic Cyborg

He can afford a home there and make it his primary residence. Who the fuck, besides rich dipshits like this, actually wants people representing them in government who don’t live anywhere near them? We’ve got enough problems with this type of crap,in some places it’s hard enough to find someone who gives a damn about the people they were elected to represent. I can name several just in Georgia alone from personal experiences over 30 years. It’s just acting spoiled and stupid and even if he has good ideas and great plans for Oregon, he looks like an asshole now.

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sagehen  Jan 7, 2022 • 2:37:11pm

re: #222 Dangerman

Drivers license?
Where do you vote?
Get the bulk of your mail?

Also look at the Senate race in PA

what’s the address on your income tax return?


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