New From Elvis Costello & the Imposters: “Magnificent Hurt”

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One of our host’s favorite bands, Elvis Costello & The Imposters, take over the Late Show stage for a performance of the first single from their new album, “The Boy Named If.” #Colbert #MagnificentHurt #ElvisCostello

After talking in tongues I began to preach
What falls from the branch is an apple or peach
Hold on to me there’s a red alert
It’s the way you make me feel, magnificent hurt

I took a little walk, I took another stimulant
I shed a single tear for my predicament
Don’t act surprised or insolent
It’s the way you make me feel, magnificent hurt

When we first met, I knew you were beautiful
You fit like the seat of a blue mohair suit
And the pain that I felt let me know I’m alive
And I opened my heart
To the way you make me feel, magnificent hurt

I speak low and intimate
Like a cardboard sophisticate
What if this is true love?
Not some town hall certificate
It’s the way you make me feel, magnificent hurt

I stood at the door, and I almost went through with it
Tight as the angle of my amen
And I swore there and then as I feign and I flirt
I unbuttoned my shirt
To the way you make me feel, magnificent hurt
To the way you make me feel, magnificent hurt

It’s the way you make me feel
It’s the way you make me feel, magnificent

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460 comments
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 22, 2022 • 12:04:55pm

Beautiful sunny day here… but I’m cold. Sure, the temps are rising (about 66F here) but the humidity is crashing.

66F may sound comfortable, but when the dew point is 0F it feels damn cold to me.

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A Cranky One  Jan 22, 2022 • 12:05:48pm

The best, most concise summary of 2021 (crank it up)

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 22, 2022 • 12:08:58pm

re: #1 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Beautiful sunny day here… but I’m cold. Sure, the temps are rising (about 66F here) but the humidity is crashing.

66F may sound comfortable, but when the dew point is 0F it feels damn cold to me.

It’s about to snow again here. On Tuesday, the low is supposed to be -20 °F (-28.9 C).

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 22, 2022 • 12:09:12pm

re: #2 A Cranky One

lol. And true.

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steve_davis  Jan 22, 2022 • 12:13:57pm

Finally got around to this:

And now, after I told Jesse she might have to be extra attentive to me today and to keep her under-weather papa warm, she hasn’t left my side, except for breakfast, secfast, brunch, lunch, and mostly recently munch.

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retired cynic  Jan 22, 2022 • 12:18:00pm

An old Virginia plantation, a new owner and a family legacy unveiled
Really good. Free link: wapo.st

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 22, 2022 • 12:19:08pm

re: #5 steve_davis

She is being a very good cat. And congrats on getting boosted. Welcome to the 3 of a kind (Pfizer) club.

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darthstar  Jan 22, 2022 • 12:19:13pm

re: #3 Dopamine Fish

It’s about to snow again here. On Tuesday, the low is supposed to be -20 °F (-28.9 C).

66 and sunny here. But we do have some wind.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 22, 2022 • 12:21:26pm

re: #8 darthstar

45, sunny and breezy here.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 22, 2022 • 12:22:48pm

The weather for the Greater Philadelphia Area.
weather.gov

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darthstar  Jan 22, 2022 • 12:26:03pm

I think we’ve officially found online small talk.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 22, 2022 • 12:26:34pm

re: #11 darthstar

I think we’ve officially found online small talk.

Alright, everybody pack it in. We’ve beaten the Internet. That was the last boss.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 22, 2022 • 12:31:14pm

I do not know who did it but I thank them for putting me at 63,000 Karma. And tonight a celebration. :)

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Teukka  Jan 22, 2022 • 12:32:08pm

re: #2 A Cranky One

The best, most concise summary of 2021 (crank it up)

Concur.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 22, 2022 • 12:33:56pm

re: #14 Teukka

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Captain Magic  Jan 22, 2022 • 12:40:23pm
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Belafon  Jan 22, 2022 • 12:42:40pm

They’ve been playing this on KKXT for about a month. Hearing this played along side Billy Idol’s “Bitter Taste” makes me think the 80s got old.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 22, 2022 • 12:44:50pm

😂

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jaunte  Jan 22, 2022 • 12:45:47pm
You fit like the seat of a blue mohair suit

This is not something I’ve experienced.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 22, 2022 • 12:47:05pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2022 • 12:47:06pm

re: #5 steve_davis

Finally got around to this:

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Proud of you both! Jessie, take good care of dad today. He needs a little extra TLC.

Well done, Steve!

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mmmirele  Jan 22, 2022 • 12:48:31pm

Well I managed to piss my brother off because he was going on about how “Democrat DAs” were being funded by George Soros. I just lit into him and pointed out that he was watching too much Fox News and that the attacks against Soros were based in anti-semitism. So he stomped out of the house and is off driving around.

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dat_said  Jan 22, 2022 • 12:51:38pm

Case study #179 on why clearly defining your terms in a study matters. Village hot sauce, out Grand Forks ND, could maybe charitably be described as a mild salsa. It’s definitely not a hot sauce in generally accepted terms and the only reason hot sauce is in the name is that the producers really know their ND customers. It sells in large bottles instead of those little bottles where a couple of drops will do you real hot sauce. The daring wild ND people serve it with tortilla chips. I’m certain three NDSU football watch parties was enough to push it to number one in ND.

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Teukka  Jan 22, 2022 • 12:54:32pm

re: #15 A Mom Anon

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 22, 2022 • 12:54:44pm

She’s back, bothering her own this time.

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jaunte  Jan 22, 2022 • 12:56:33pm

re: #23 dat_said

I like this stuff:
en.wikipedia.org

“…Valentina is described as thicker than Tabasco sauce and less vinegary, with more chili flavor. It comes in two varieties: hot (900 Scoville Heat Units) and extra hot (2100 SHU). The sauce is named for Valentina Ramírez Avitia, a Mexican revolutionary.”

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William Lewis  Jan 22, 2022 • 12:56:54pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

What report option is best for dealing with him?

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A Mom Anon  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:00:39pm

re: #22 mmmirele

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mmmirele  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:01:17pm

re: #24 Teukka

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Charles Johnson  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:04:00pm

re: #27 William Lewis

I used “suspicious or spam.”

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mmmirele  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:04:03pm

re: #28 A Mom Anon

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Teukka  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:07:52pm

re: #29 mmmirele

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nines09  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:08:35pm

So yesterday afternoon about 15 miles from me this happened.

Just like the start of a ……movie…..uh….

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Teukka  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:09:42pm

re: #33 nines09

So yesterday afternoon about 15 miles from me this happened.

Just like the start of a ……movie…..uh….

Outbreak (1995) Official Trailer - Dustin Hoffman, Morgan Freeman Sci-Fi Movie

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William Lewis  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:10:28pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

I used “suspicious or spam.”

Done.

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jaunte  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:12:30pm
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Captain Magic  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:13:21pm

re: #35 William Lewis

I followed him, and then he blocked me - guess he saw littlegreenfotballs.com in my profile…

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jaunte  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:14:43pm

Joe Kernen: “OK.”

en.wikipedia.org
“…Kernen authored Your Teacher Said What?!: Defending Our Kids from the Liberal Assault on Capitalism, (2011) with his then 5th grade daughter Blake.”

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nines09  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:15:22pm

re: #34 Teukka

“How many were there?”
A HUNDRED.
“Uh. Cap, uh we got….99…..Got that Bill? Bill? Billy? BILLY? WHERE’S BILLY??!!??”

(dramatic music) slow fade…..

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jaunte  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:17:30pm

“…JOE KERNEN: We expected to hear about climate change. In four hours yesterday, with the CEO of Bank of America, and Schwartzman with Blackstone, all we talked about, and all they wanted to talk about, was the strength of the U.S. economy. It’s the envy of the world. And I think if you have a strong economy, all these ancillary issues become easier to deal with. And I think even the Europeans, even the plutocrats of Davos, are now acknowledging that.”
cnbc.com

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Teukka  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:23:32pm

This fucking timeline, in which M&M’s are offensive?

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jaunte  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:25:22pm

re: #41 Teukka

In these moments we must ask which candies the Founding Fathers found irresistibly sexy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:26:33pm
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jaunte  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:26:50pm

That which melteth in the mouth, but not in the hand.

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jaunte  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:27:31pm

Strange days.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:27:33pm

re: #41 Teukka

It is a good thing I do not watch Fox because if I did I would have pitched my TV out the window.

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dat_said  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:27:49pm

re: #34 Teukka

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So yesterday this happened fifteen miles from me but all I have to worry about is that someone decides to make a sequel called “Attack of the Killer Potatoes”

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A Cranky One  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:30:05pm

re: #24 Teukka

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Teukka  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:30:49pm

re: #46 PhillyPretzel

It is a good thing I do not watch Fox because if I did I would have pitched my TV out the window.

That’s what I hear in the left-leaning chats I frequent, they don’t watch it because their TV’s would break upon impact with the floor, street or walls, or suffer random perforations by bullets…

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:32:20pm

re: #49 Teukka

That is why PBS gets my donations. :)

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Teukka  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:32:24pm

re: #48 A Cranky One

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:34:07pm
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Teukka  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:36:20pm

re: #52 Backwoods_Sleuth

#FloriduhMan

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Mattand  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:37:01pm

Me: “Meat Loaf’s vax status was technically ‘unknown’, but he was a rabid conservative who openly complained about vax mandates and died of COVID, so he most likely wasn’t vaccinated.”

My sister, the teacher: “Well, you don’t know that for sure. He could have been vaccinated but we’ll probably never know.”

Right, because if there’s one thing the news is full of, it’s stories of Republicans who openly rejected COVID vaccines, yet were secretly vaccinated and still died from COVID.

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prairiefire  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:46:59pm

Christine: “My dancer name was Cotton Candy.” Can’t confirm if she said that or Spun Sugar.

RIP Louie

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:47:10pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:49:57pm

re: #54 Mattand

The thing is they are saying they are “secretly” vaccinated. Is there any proof? I have not seen any. No vaccine cards unlike most of the folks in this thread. Honestly I do not believe them at all.

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steve_davis  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:50:05pm

Is she really my attentive nurse, or is she just in it for the heated denim seating?

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mmmirele  Jan 22, 2022 • 1:55:31pm

re: #57 PhillyPretzel

The thing is they are saying they are “secretly” vaccinated. Is there any proof? I have not seen any. No vaccine cards unlike most of the folks in this thread. Honestly I do not believe them at all.

Actually, if they were vaccinated and still died, this would be important information to have, along with any comorbidities that they may have had.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2022 • 2:00:28pm

re: #32 Teukka

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jaunte  Jan 22, 2022 • 2:10:53pm
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Eventual Carrion  Jan 22, 2022 • 2:12:10pm

re: #23 dat_said

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Case study #179 on why clearly defining your terms in a study matters. Village hot sauce, out Grand Forks ND, could maybe charitably be described as a mild salsa. It’s definitely not a hot sauce in generally accepted terms and the only reason hot sauce is in the name is that the producers really know their ND customers. It sells in large bottles instead of those little bottles where a couple of drops will do you real hot sauce. The daring wild ND people serve it with tortilla chips. I’m certain three NDSU football watch parties was enough to push it to number one in ND.

I’ll agree on Frank’s RedHot. Not blazing hot, just a nice spicy taste.

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darthstar  Jan 22, 2022 • 2:14:26pm

re: #25 Dread Pirate Ron

She’s back, bothering her own this time.

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Is there a rule that if Chuck Johnson rears his racist head Laura Loomer also needs attention?

Spoiler:

BTW, the Eternals saved the planet.

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darthstar  Jan 22, 2022 • 2:19:15pm

I will give the movie credit for one thing though…Tiamut was the celestial in the Enuma Elis whom Marduk tore asunder, making the continents from her body and the sky from her skull. Babylonian creation myths rock.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 22, 2022 • 2:19:24pm

Had no idea.

Iframe

Former Lubbock Christian University student, Marvin Aday, known as Meat Loaf, passed away January 20, 2022. Condolences to his family, friends, and fans.

facebook.com

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darthstar  Jan 22, 2022 • 2:20:47pm

re: #63 darthstar

Is there a rule that if Chuck Johnson rears his racist head Laura Loomer also needs attention?

Spoiler:

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In a series of tweets, Sherman said that Laura Loomer — who was reportedly not invited to the meeting…

Not invited? You don’t say!

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Belafon  Jan 22, 2022 • 2:20:51pm
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Belafon  Jan 22, 2022 • 2:22:37pm
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jaunte  Jan 22, 2022 • 2:24:31pm
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jaunte  Jan 22, 2022 • 2:31:22pm

Interesting thread about that Los Angeles railroad thefts story from the other day:

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 22, 2022 • 2:31:27pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 22, 2022 • 2:33:26pm

re: #71 Dread Pirate Ron

I wonder if the next variants will mimic that same behavior?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 22, 2022 • 2:35:59pm

a bit of Summer on a winter’s day…

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 22, 2022 • 2:37:50pm

re: #73 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 22, 2022 • 2:38:20pm

re: #16 Captain Magic

Gaah…

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A Mom Anon  Jan 22, 2022 • 2:42:09pm

re: #73 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 22, 2022 • 2:43:11pm
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Belafon  Jan 22, 2022 • 2:46:48pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 22, 2022 • 2:48:25pm
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Dopamine Fish  Jan 22, 2022 • 2:48:43pm

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

I AM NOT A TREE! I AM AN ENT!

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Belafon  Jan 22, 2022 • 2:52:30pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 22, 2022 • 2:54:57pm
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retired cynic  Jan 22, 2022 • 2:56:39pm

re: #82 Backwoods_Sleuth

awww

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 22, 2022 • 3:06:17pm

Ladies and Gentlemen the buffet in honor of my 63,000 Karma points is now open. Please enjoy. :)

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darthstar  Jan 22, 2022 • 3:09:32pm

re: #82 Backwoods_Sleuth

Is this some kind of ‘When we go low, we go lower’ thing with that group? They appear to be handling recent adversity less than smoothly.

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darthstar  Jan 22, 2022 • 3:10:37pm

Trump would be pissed to come in 7th if he saw this.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 22, 2022 • 3:12:59pm
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A Cranky One  Jan 22, 2022 • 3:14:58pm

re: #81 Belafon

This is so tragic.
l was lead engineer for quite a few large development teams in the telecom industry. Once had a senior manager praise me for having such diverse teams on the projects.

And while it was true that the teams were very diverse, that wasn’t intentional.

I simply picked the best engineers I could find for each role. They were folks who impressed me (not an easy task). And was never disappointed with the results.

So I can’t understand or cope with the kind of bigotry this doctor experienced.

It’s too bad she couldn’t respond that she agrees to a change since she doesn’t treat idiots.

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The Squire of Logos  Jan 22, 2022 • 3:16:24pm

re: #84 PhillyPretzel

Ladies and Gentlemen the buffet in honor of my 63,000 Karma points is now open. Please enjoy. :)

Yum!

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gocart mozart  Jan 22, 2022 • 3:19:54pm
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b.d  Jan 22, 2022 • 3:32:21pm

re: #87 Dave In Austin

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Because if there is anything Chuck is an expert on, it’s foreign policy, analysis & predictions.

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mmmirele  Jan 22, 2022 • 3:43:13pm

re: #70 jaunte

Alec Karakatsanis also did a decisive takedown of the New York Times story regarding the murder (yah, I’m gonna call it that) of 14 YO Valentina Orellana-Peralta by an LAPD cop who shot wherever he wanted and killed her as she hid in a dressing room. It is also worth a read.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 22, 2022 • 3:43:50pm

Republicans: IF YOU DON’T WANT TO WORK FOR SHIT WAGES, PULL YOURSELF UP BY YOUR BOOTSTRAPS AND GO GET A JOB THAT OFFERS BETTER MONEY
Also Republicans: WAIT WAIT NO I DIDN’T MEAN IT, YOU CAN’T LEAVE, I’M GOING TO SUE YOU AND PREVENT YOU FROM STARTING YOUR NEW JOB

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A Mom Anon  Jan 22, 2022 • 3:46:21pm

re: #93 Dopamine Fish

How is that even legal? I wouldn’t set foot in a place that did that to me ever again. They cannot force you to go to work, what the hell?

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jaunte  Jan 22, 2022 • 3:46:42pm

re: #93 Dopamine Fish

The idiots managing that business don’t realize they’ve just invited a bunch of people to sabotage the place.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 22, 2022 • 3:47:18pm

re: #94 A Mom Anon

How is that even legal? I wouldn’t set foot in a place that did that to me ever again. They cannot force you to go to work, what the hell?

Actually, it’s even worse than that. They now don’t work at EITHER hospital - they’re jobless. If you ask me, it’s not legal, and what the judge is doing is cruel and stupid, but the courts have terrifying power in this country.

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jaunte  Jan 22, 2022 • 3:48:44pm
“One of his colleagues received an offer from Ascension that was attractive “not just in pay but also a better work/life balance,” which caused others on his team to apply, Breister wrote.

After approaching ThedaCare with the chance to match the offers they’d been given, Breister wrote that they were told “the long term expense to ThedaCare was not worth the short term cost,” and no counter-offer would be made.”

Time to call in sick.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 22, 2022 • 3:50:01pm

re: #97 jaunte

Time to call in sick.

What kills me about that quote is, they openly admitted that they would not be severely harmed by letting these people go, but now they’re crying to the court about it. What the fuck, dude? If they’re that valuable to you, PAY THEM.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 22, 2022 • 3:51:32pm

I seriously hope those poor doctors and nurses get some compensation for the time they were forced to spend unemployed because a judge decided it was more important for a hospital to get petty revenge than it was for people to do their fucking jobs and get paid.

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William Lewis  Jan 22, 2022 • 3:56:03pm

re: #99 Dopamine Fish

I seriously hope those poor doctors and nurses get some compensation for the time they were forced to spend unemployed because a judge decided it was more important for a hospital to get petty revenge than it was for people to do their fucking jobs and get paid.

Probably the only way is to get the decision vacated on appeals and then sue the original employer. They might see pennies on the dollar several years from now.

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Belafon  Jan 22, 2022 • 3:57:50pm

re: #93 Dopamine Fish

Republicans: IF YOU DON’T WANT TO WORK FOR SHIT WAGES, PULL YOURSELF UP BY YOUR BOOTSTRAPS AND GO GET A JOB THAT OFFERS BETTER MONEY
Also Republicans: WAIT WAIT NO I DIDN’T MEAN IT, YOU CAN’T LEAVE, I’M GOING TO SUE YOU AND PREVENT YOU FROM STARTING YOUR NEW JOB

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“Let me tell you how we’re going to make our company more appealing to you: We’re going to sue to keep you from leaving.”

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gocart mozart  Jan 22, 2022 • 3:59:08pm
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Mattand  Jan 22, 2022 • 4:03:22pm

re: #57 PhillyPretzel

The thing is they are saying they are “secretly” vaccinated. Is there any proof? I have not seen any. No vaccine cards unlike most of the folks in this thread. Honestly I do not believe them at all.

The thing that chaps my ass is that people like my sister giving someone like Meat Loaf the benefit of the doubt because he never officially came out and said “I have not and will not take a COVID vaccine.”

‘Cause then it spirals into the whole hyper skeptical “Well, you can’t prove he wasn’t vaccinated, therefore it’s possible he was vaccinated and still died from it” bullshit argument.

No, technically I can’t prove he wasn’t vaccinated. But for fuck’s sake, I can point you to interview after interview where he was adamant against any sort of vax mandate, yet there’s zero statement of him admitting to getting even a single shot.

But, nooooooo, it’s somehow logically wrong to state he most likely wasn’t vaxxed despite tons of evidence pointing in that direction.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 22, 2022 • 4:04:40pm

Wordle 217 3/6

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 22, 2022 • 4:09:07pm
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KGxvi  Jan 22, 2022 • 4:11:12pm

re: #93 Dopamine Fish

If it’s true that they are at will employees, there’s absolutely no basis for the TRO that the judge ordered.

If there’s some sort of non-compete agreement at issue, then there may be something there. However, I think non-compete clauses should be unlawful and unenforceable as a matter of law, full stop.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 22, 2022 • 4:13:38pm

re: #106 KGxvi

If it’s true that they are at will employees, there’s absolutely no basis for the TRO that the judge ordered.

If there’s some sort of non-compete agreement at issue, then there may be something there. However, I think non-compete clauses should be unlawful and unenforceable as a matter of law, full stop.

The TRO is against the new employer, enjoining them from starting the new employees; it is an unfair trade practices suit. The old employer is claiming the new employer poached their employees. The judge is seriously off base here in his decision; the employees were not poached, unless you want to count it that once one employee jumped ship, and others saw the benefits package that was offered, they followed suit. I agree wholeheartedly with your closing statement about how non-competes should be unlawful. I sign them all the time, but they’re effectively meaningless in my industry, as they are always waived unless the employer is wanting to be a dick.

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austin_blue  Jan 22, 2022 • 4:16:09pm

re: #102 gocart mozart

I mentioned the 45th anniversary of Rich Girl to She Who Must Be Obeyed, and opined that we are old, and she looked me square in the eye and intoned “We will never speak of this again.”

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Dave In Austin  Jan 22, 2022 • 4:17:19pm

re: #93 Dopamine Fish

Isn’t that indenturement?

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gocart mozart  Jan 22, 2022 • 4:22:01pm
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John Hughes  Jan 22, 2022 • 4:22:20pm

re: #93 Dopamine Fish

It’s simple. All doctors, nurses, nursing assistants should make it clear. They will never treat that “judge” or his family. Ever.

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A Cranky One  Jan 22, 2022 • 4:23:17pm

re: #108 austin_blue

Things that make me feel old:

When I realized that all my kids were older than 30 yrs old.

Realizing that I’m now the oldest generation in my family.

Getting out of a chair. 😬

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 22, 2022 • 4:24:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 22, 2022 • 4:25:37pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 22, 2022 • 4:26:24pm
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ckkatz  Jan 22, 2022 • 4:31:31pm

re: #33 nines09

So yesterday afternoon about 15 miles from me this happened.

Just like the start of a ……movie…..uh….

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mmmirele  Jan 22, 2022 • 4:31:49pm

re: #93 Dopamine Fish

Republicans: IF YOU DON’T WANT TO WORK FOR SHIT WAGES, PULL YOURSELF UP BY YOUR BOOTSTRAPS AND GO GET A JOB THAT OFFERS BETTER MONEY
Also Republicans: WAIT WAIT NO I DIDN’T MEAN IT, YOU CAN’T LEAVE, I’M GOING TO SUE YOU AND PREVENT YOU FROM STARTING YOUR NEW JOB

Akiva Cohen has a thread on Twitter on this, about how he’d handle this from a litigation perspective. It’s worth a read. I’m hoping someone points this out to the idiot judge so they have the ability to correct themselves come Monday.

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darthstar  Jan 22, 2022 • 4:33:42pm

re: #111 John Hughes

It’s simple. All doctors, nurses, nursing assistants should make it clear. They will never treat that “judge” or his family. Ever.

Thetacare is going to have to raise the salary to get replacements because who will want to work for them after this?

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retired cynic  Jan 22, 2022 • 4:35:32pm
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austin_blue  Jan 22, 2022 • 4:36:23pm

re: #116 ckkatz

Run, monkey! Run!

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darthstar  Jan 22, 2022 • 4:36:32pm

re: #116 ckkatz

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I saw that movie.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 22, 2022 • 4:42:54pm

Wordle 217 5/6

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ckkatz  Jan 22, 2022 • 4:47:15pm

(I don’t think that this has been posted here yet.)

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ckkatz  Jan 22, 2022 • 4:49:22pm

re: #5 steve_davis

Congrats!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 22, 2022 • 4:52:01pm

niterz, lizardz!

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lawhawk  Jan 22, 2022 • 5:03:59pm

re: #16 Captain Magic

Fauci is like Ali… he’s not going to let some chump goad him. Oz is a punk ass weasel flyweight who thinks he can make a name for himself by challenging Fauci, when Oz is a junk science and woo guy who has misinformed the masses for decades.

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mmmirele  Jan 22, 2022 • 5:04:09pm

Dunno if you all are familiar with the story of Jorts and Jean the cats, but here’s the backstory: cnet.com

That said, Jorts and Jean’s human has a Twitter account and it’s delightful. Take this, for example:

Jorts is also pro-union.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 22, 2022 • 5:10:18pm

re: #112 A Cranky One

Things that make me feel old:

When I realized that all my kids were older than 30 yrs old.

Realizing that I’m now the oldest generation in my family.

Getting out of a chair. 😬

It’s getting up from the floor that does it for me!

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 22, 2022 • 5:11:44pm

re: #16 Captain Magic

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Captain Magic  Jan 22, 2022 • 5:20:34pm
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austin_blue  Jan 22, 2022 • 5:21:47pm

re: #130 Captain Magic

Aaaaarrrrrggggghhhhh!

The horror!

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lawhawk  Jan 22, 2022 • 5:22:18pm

re: #70 jaunte

Top story for the day should be the 10 airplanes that crashed yesterday, each with 290 people on board.

Did I say airplanes? I meant covid deaths, where people died gasping for their last breath at hospitals all across the country because +90% of those who died were not vaccinated.

2900+ died on Friday from covid. That’s fucking nuts. And yet the media is glossing over all of this because it doesn’t fit the narrative. They want people to think omicron is mild.

It might be milder than delta, but omicron can kill people who aren’t vaccinated just as surely as other variants.

This pandemic is a culling of the right wing lunatics who think they’re dying to pwn the libs. I remain out of fucks to give. My supply chain has indicated no ETA on restoration of fucks to have. Therefore, I’ll be rationing my fucks to give to those who actually deserve it.

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Weaselone  Jan 22, 2022 • 5:24:15pm

re: #127 mmmirele

Musk is worth billions because he excels at raising capital and paying smarter people including actual rocket scientists to do the real work.

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austin_blue  Jan 22, 2022 • 5:32:46pm

re: #132 lawhawk

Top story for the day should be the 10 airplanes that crashed yesterday, each with 290 people on board.

Did I say airplanes? I meant covid deaths, where people died gasping for their last breath at hospitals all across the country because +90% of those who died were not vaccinated.

2900+ died on Friday from covid. That’s fucking nuts. And yet the media is glossing over all of this because it doesn’t fit the narrative. They want people to think omicron is mild.

It might be milder than delta, but omicron can kill people who aren’t vaccinated just as surely as other variants.

This pandemic is a culling of the right wing lunatics who think they’re dying to pwn the libs. I remain out of fucks to give. My supply chain has indicated no ETA on restoration of fucks to have. Therefore, I’ll be rationing my fucks to give to those who actually deserve it.

Well, to be honest, 2900 deaths were reported on Friday. Florida saves them up during the week. It skews the numbers.

But the bitch is a valid bitch. We are coming to the end of the Delta fatalities and from here on out, it will be Omicron fatalities and almost all of those will be laissez-faire suicides by the unvaccinated. Stupid, preventable suicides that take up hospital assets, that result in the spread to toddlers, immuno-compromised folks, and fuckwits who make up 20% of the population and will almost guarantee that there will be another flavor of COVID that will hammer us in April or May.

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darthstar  Jan 22, 2022 • 5:33:47pm

re: #130 Captain Magic

I could eat one of those right about now.

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BigPapa  Jan 22, 2022 • 5:36:08pm

I found the Disco Duck

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BigPapa  Jan 22, 2022 • 5:36:59pm

re: #130 Captain Magic

Sir, how da.. SIR, HOW DARE YOU DEFILE THIS THREAD.

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lawhawk  Jan 22, 2022 • 5:39:52pm

re: #134 austin_blue

Deaths are trending up, and that’s because deaths lag the hospitalizations in each of the waves.

All those hospitalizations decrease resources available to everyone else, so don’t get in a car crash or have a fall or get a stroke or heart attack, because your local hospital might not have an ICU slot available for you. Hospitals around the country are cancelling electives because they have no resources available (rooms or personnel).

I’d also point out that delta hasn’t gone away either. It’s still out there. Omicron is just more effective as a spreader.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 22, 2022 • 5:46:00pm

Enjoying Tim Burton’s “Dark Shadows”.
It’s better that I thought it would be. And a great cast.

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BigPapa  Jan 22, 2022 • 5:52:45pm

The greatest Dad Rock band before they became cool

Cake - Jolene Live in San Francisco- 1994

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Belafon  Jan 22, 2022 • 5:52:54pm

re: #130 Captain Magic

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But did the kid choose pineapple on pizza or did he choose mushrooms and pepperoni?

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darthstar  Jan 22, 2022 • 5:58:47pm

Couch potato…I know… keep him on the floor, no jumping on the furniture for 10 weeks…I lifted him up and am holding the leash to keep him from jumping down.

And he’s happy.

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Belafon  Jan 22, 2022 • 5:59:06pm
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A Cranky One  Jan 22, 2022 • 6:01:27pm

re: #142 darthstar

What a good boy!

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William Lewis  Jan 22, 2022 • 6:14:07pm

re: #130 Captain Magic

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Yum! All it needs is fungus on the pepperoni side!

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darthstar  Jan 22, 2022 • 6:20:36pm

re: #140 BigPapa

The greatest Dad Rock band before they became cool

[Embedded content]

I saw Cake in Sacramento when they were still just a local Sacramento band. Good show.

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Belafon  Jan 22, 2022 • 6:35:49pm

re: #140 BigPapa

The greatest Dad Rock band before they became cool

[Embedded content]

Cake is Bob Belcher’s favorite band on Bob’s Burgers.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 22, 2022 • 6:43:35pm

Tit for twat, or something.

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Dangerman  Jan 22, 2022 • 6:47:08pm

re: #112 A Cranky One

Things that make me feel old:

When I realized that all my kids were older than 30 yrs old.

Realizing that I’m now the oldest generation in my family.

Getting out of a chair. 😬

I ran 20 miles this morning.

I’m 64.

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jaunte  Jan 22, 2022 • 6:50:24pm


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jaunte  Jan 22, 2022 • 6:54:27pm

18 U.S. Code § 241 - Conspiracy against rights
law.cornell.edu

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ckkatz  Jan 22, 2022 • 7:02:34pm

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 22, 2022 • 7:03:26pm
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jaunte  Jan 22, 2022 • 7:05:40pm
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Belafon  Jan 22, 2022 • 7:06:56pm

LOL

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EstebanTornado1963  Jan 22, 2022 • 7:07:53pm

I _ _ _ _ _ed when I found out the next wordle is in 5 hours 😆

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Belafon  Jan 22, 2022 • 7:09:28pm

Hiding this so that all the “Nopes” a comin’ can hide it again:

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A Mom Anon  Jan 22, 2022 • 7:14:17pm

re: #152 ckkatz

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 22, 2022 • 7:14:19pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

What do we use to report him? Imitating someone? I didn’t see a category for banned people.

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ckkatz  Jan 22, 2022 • 7:38:30pm

re: #158 A Mom Anon

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ckkatz  Jan 22, 2022 • 7:44:43pm

re: #153 Dread Pirate Ron

Looks like the Pennsylvania State Police did not monkey around.

On Saturday night, two Pennsylvania State Police (PSP) troopers, Andrea Pelachick and Lauren Lesher, tweeted “All monkeys have been accounted for.”

One monkey had been unaccounted for Saturday morning, according to a tweet from the Pennsylvania State Police Troop F.

Temperatures were below freezing on Friday night.

All monkeys accounted for after trailer crashes in Pennsylvania
By Melissa Alonso, Keith Allen and David Williams, CNN
Updated 8:12 PM ET, Sat January 22, 2022

cnn.com

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jaunte  Jan 22, 2022 • 7:46:42pm

re: #161 ckkatz

“All monkeys have been accounted for.”

“Come on, you apes! You wanna live forever?”

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jaunte  Jan 22, 2022 • 7:50:07pm
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Sherlock Hound  Jan 22, 2022 • 7:51:16pm

re: #161 ckkatz

Looks like the Pennsylvania State Police did not monkey around.

All monkeys accounted for after trailer crashes in Pennsylvania
By Melissa Alonso, Keith Allen and David Williams, CNN
Updated 8:12 PM ET, Sat January 22, 2022

cnn.com

And I was looking forward to that remake of The Hot Zone!
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A Mom Anon  Jan 22, 2022 • 7:51:20pm

My kid is going to see Bruce Dickinson tomorrow night. It’s just Bruce and a couple of guitars, lots of photographs and stories about life on tour and making music. He’s going to try and meet Bruce, the venue is not huge, so he’s got a shot at it.

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wrenchwench  Jan 22, 2022 • 7:56:30pm
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ckkatz  Jan 22, 2022 • 7:58:11pm

re: #164 Sherlock Hound

And I was looking forward to that remake of The Hot Zone!
///

I lived about 1.5 miles from that monkey house back while it was happening. And only learned about it when I read the book years later.

I now live maybe 5 miles from there.

So, put me down for a “Thanks… but Nope!”

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Jan 22, 2022 • 8:08:38pm

re: #142 darthstar

From my heelers: best wishes for recovery

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 22, 2022 • 8:10:45pm

Covidiot Aaron Rodgers just got his season ended by the 49ers.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 22, 2022 • 8:11:48pm

re: #169 Eclectic Cyborg

Can he go away now? He’s such a pompous asshole. Yuck.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 22, 2022 • 8:13:31pm

re: #169 Eclectic Cyborg

Covidiot Aaron Rodgers just got his season ended by the 49ers.

😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

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EstebanTornado1963  Jan 22, 2022 • 8:13:52pm

Covid brain is real. #🖕AaronRodgers

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austin_blue  Jan 22, 2022 • 8:17:58pm

Both the #1 seeds (Tennessee and Green Bay) got beat tonight. Top seed left is Tampa Bay, and boy, howdy, I’d love to see Brady go home tomorrow.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 22, 2022 • 8:21:33pm
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William Lewis  Jan 22, 2022 • 8:23:54pm

re: #169 Eclectic Cyborg

Covidiot Aaron Rodgers just got his season ended by the 49ers.

I’m a Packers fan from as long as I can remember (my earliest memory is a Packers game - Superb Owl 1) but it really doesn’t bother me that SF keeps beating Rodger’s like a $10 mule. He’s now 0 - 4 in the playoffs against SF ;)

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jaunte  Jan 22, 2022 • 8:24:19pm

re: #174 Dread Pirate Ron

Really working that stereo separation.

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jaunte  Jan 22, 2022 • 8:27:22pm
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jaunte  Jan 22, 2022 • 8:32:54pm
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jaunte  Jan 22, 2022 • 8:33:21pm
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A Mom Anon  Jan 22, 2022 • 8:34:19pm

So I’ve been thinking about something. Brace yourselves, lol. Or run.

I keep coming back to how mean humans are being to one another and how that breaks so many things. And keeps them broken. This is coming from humans and our choices as a whole over a rather short(relative to history) time frame. Humans have to fix this. Somehow. What we’re doing now is not sustainable. Not even close.

There do have to be consequences for shit behavior, it helps keep bad behavior from becoming normalized. But there also has to be an eye towards preventing more mean people from being created. And most of this is learned, passed down and often accepted. I am not so naive to think this is something that can be forced or legislated entirely or even mostly, but there have to be lines and limits that aren’t tolerated. Like threatening to shoot up a school because you’re a fucked up asshole who thinks wearing a mask is worth death threats. This shit HAS to be minimized somehow so it becomes something without rewards.

How we even begin with this is totally above my pay grade, but something has to give and it’s only one of many things that need readjusted.

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mmmirele  Jan 22, 2022 • 8:34:34pm

re: #180 jaunte

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Belafon  Jan 22, 2022 • 8:38:19pm

At least I don’t have to decide between Green and Tampa in the NFC championship.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 22, 2022 • 8:42:00pm

Evening Lizards. From yesterdays outing at the Vancouver Aquarium.

From left to right. Magnus, me and Robyn. We were in front of the Jellyfish tank.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 22, 2022 • 8:44:52pm
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jaunte  Jan 22, 2022 • 8:45:57pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 22, 2022 • 8:47:07pm

I may die of old age before these tweets render.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 22, 2022 • 8:47:48pm

Windows 11 - Just slightly more annoying than windows 10.

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Teukka  Jan 22, 2022 • 8:49:16pm

re: #60 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 22, 2022 • 8:49:41pm

If I hit the start icon I don’t need the pinned apps to be displayed, they are already on the bar! It is redundant.

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Belafon  Jan 22, 2022 • 8:50:40pm

re: #188 Dread Pirate Ron

Windows 11 - Just slightly more annoying than windows 10.

In what way?

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jan 22, 2022 • 8:50:45pm

re: #188 Dread Pirate Ron

Windows 11 - Just slightly more annoying than windows 10.

So you’re saying my sticking with win 7 was a good choice.

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Belafon  Jan 22, 2022 • 8:54:27pm

re: #190 Dread Pirate Ron

If I hit the start icon I don’t need the pinned apps to be displayed, they are already on the bar! It is redundant.

OK, now I see. I’m debating on whether or not to remove some stuff from my task bar for that reason.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 22, 2022 • 8:56:06pm

re: #192 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

So you’re saying my sticking with win 7 was a good choice.

No, it is much more secure. Nothing wrong with any operations. They killed my old windows desktop gadgets workaround for windows 10. Their widgets are fucking useless. Looks more like MacOS or whatever they call it now.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 22, 2022 • 8:57:02pm

It is a free upgrade from Windows 10.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 22, 2022 • 8:58:43pm
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jaunte  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:00:15pm
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ckkatz  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:00:25pm

Yes, like you, I have been thinking about some of the issues that we have been seeing recently.

From what I have been seeing.

1. If institutions can’t protect themselves, they are going to be destroyed. That includes the US Government. (I’m looking at you DOJ and Congress in particular.)

2. The group of people who believe that they can make money by stripping the institutions and selling them for parts. It used to be called plundering. Now the libertarian dude-bro’s and their vulture capitalist friends call it ‘disruption’.

3. The layer of authoritarians and their billionaire patrons who want to weaken institutions so that they can more easily seize power and money.

4. Plus those who do not view laws as benefiting them and want to destroy them. Among these are those who just want to see the world burn.

5. Plus foreign entities who want to weaken the United States by damaging our institutions.

6. The passing away of the last generation who remember what happened the last time laws and institutions failed back in the 1920’s and 1930’s.

7. A Republican Leadership that has institutionalized and now reflects the sociopathy of its leader.

8. On top of that is the pandemic and its disruptions.

9. With all of this a certain percentage of people are just not going to react well. Unfortunately, sometimes the people exhibiting this behavior are indistinguishable from deliberately malevolent actors mentioned above.

What do we do about it?

Folks here have mentioned a few things:
- Protect yourself;
- Act with compassion;
- Remember your ethics and professionalism;
- Choose a valuable institution to support;
- Be as courageous as you can.

Timothy Snyder has a few ideas in his series on youtube

re: #181 A Mom Anon

So I’ve been thinking about something. Brace yourselves, lol. Or run.

I keep coming back to how mean humans are being to one another and how that breaks so many things. And keeps them broken. This is coming from humans and our choices as a whole over a rather short(relative to history) time frame. Humans have to fix this. Somehow. What we’re doing now is not sustainable. Not even close.

There do have to be consequences for shit behavior, it helps keep bad behavior from becoming normalized. But there also has to be an eye towards preventing more mean people from being created. And most of this is learned, passed down and often accepted. I am not so naive to think this is something that can be forced or legislated entirely or even mostly, but there have to be lines and limits that aren’t tolerated. Like threatening to shoot up a school because you’re a fucked up asshole who thinks wearing a mask is worth death threats. This shit HAS to be minimized somehow so it becomes something without rewards.

How we even begin with this is totally above my pay grade, but something has to give and it’s only one of many things that need readjusted.

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Belafon  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:00:58pm

And:

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:02:52pm

Basically, you need a UEFI ? based motherboard, instead of BIOS based one, and you need to enable a motherboard security setting. Then you need to join the Windows Insider Program, and you need to set your clock ahead 24 hours before windows will let you install Windows 11. then after the upgrade set your clock back.

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BeachDem  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:04:39pm
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Belafon  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:10:23pm

re: #200 Dread Pirate Ron

Basically, you need a UEFI ? based motherboard, instead of BIOS based one, and you need to enable a motherboard security setting. Then you need to join the Windows Insider Program, and you need to set your clock ahead 24 hours before windows will let you install Windows 11. then after the upgrade set your clock back.

I didn’t have the motherboard setting turned on. So I’m waiting until it recognizes the change. I dont think you have to be part of the insider program unless you’re trying to hurry up this process. I’m not on it on my laptop, and I didn’t have any trouble. My desktop is a few years old.

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wrenchwench  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:11:20pm
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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:12:21pm

re: #194 Dread Pirate Ron

No, it is much more secure. Nothing wrong with any operations. They killed my old windows desktop gadgets workaround for windows 10. Their widgets are fucking useless. Looks more like MacOS or whatever they call it now.

I do everything that requires security on devices that use current mac os. I didn’t upgrade to 10 because the home version didn’t allow you to choose when to install the upgrades. Someday I may have to go to a modern windows system, but this isn’t the day.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:14:25pm

A cable provider would have to be insane to do business with OAN after they asked their audience to dig up dirt on the head of DirecTV. These people are deranged.

OAN Owner Begs Viewers to Call Other Cable Providers After DirecTV Drops Channel (The Daily Beast)

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JC1  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:15:51pm

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This was a tough one. Lucky I got it.

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wrenchwench  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:16:17pm

I’ve been through Heber.

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KGxvi  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:16:20pm

re: #149 Dangerman

I ran 20 miles this morning.

I’m 64.

I’ve taken to walking recently, can usually do 2-3 miles now. I have never been a runner. I don’t think I’ve ever done anything that resembles long distance running. If I could actually learn to run properly, I could probably be pretty good at triathlons since I’m good on a bike and am a swimmer (though I probably need to both of those a bit more)

But gods, I have always hated running

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:18:15pm

I am proud of this. On the other hand, going to have to change my starting word.

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mmmirele  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:18:17pm

Was looking for docs for a lawyer friend of mine in NYC who wanted to know more about the Thedacare v. Ascension case (aka “those seven employees you hired, we have an injunction to keep them from being onboarded as employees”). Here’s a Tweet with the email Thedacare sent out to its staff.

Also, r/antiwork started up a GoFundMe for the seven so they could go ahead and quit working at Thedacare even if they weren’t able to go straight to Ascension.

There is a hearing on Monday at 10 am. I expect it’s going to be ugly. People are *pissed off*.

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retired cynic  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:18:23pm

re: #207 wrenchwench

I’ve been through Heber.

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Beautiful! (At least not driving on debris!)

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:18:55pm

re: #208 KGxvi

I can’t walk very much because of impact caused pain but I can ride 25 miles a day on an e-bike.

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KGxvi  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:21:29pm

re: #188 Dread Pirate Ron

Windows 11 - Just slightly more annoying than windows 10.

It’s been all downhill since they introduced Windows 98

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KGxvi  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:26:02pm

re: #212 Dread Pirate Ron

I can’t walk very much because of impact caused pain but I can ride 25 miles a day on an e-bike.

I’ve just always been shit at running. In high school one swim season our regular Friday workout was a run swim - 1000 yard swim, maybe a 3 mile run, 1000 yard swim. I’d be one of the first out of the water, get passed by everyone, including freshmen, because I’d basically walk the three miles, and then still end up catching and passing about half the guys on the second swim.

Biking is fun, especially since I live by the beach. It’s just a time thing, I think, especially in these winter months

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Belafon  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:27:24pm

Ummmm

A video of a reporter in West Virginia being hit by a car while doing a live report has gone viral on social media, with many talking about the depths reporters go to get the news out. In the video, the journalist, identified as Tori Yorgey, immediately pulls herself up and continues speaking on camera—despite having just been hit by a car.

“Oh my God. I just got by a car, but I’m okay!” Yorgey says as she falls to the ground. After she gets up, she laughingly says, “You know, that’s live TV for ya! It’s all good! I actually got hit by a car in college, too, just like that. I am so glad I’m okay!”

m.dailykos.com

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:28:43pm

I barely survived the mile run test in PE in high school. Running is worse than riding a bike uphill.

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wrenchwench  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:30:24pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:31:39pm

re: #216 Dread Pirate Ron

I barely survived the mile run test in PE in high school. Running is worse than riding a bike uphill.

OK, just remembered my attempt at riding up Mt. Diablo on my 10 speed in high school. Pedaling as fast as I can and moving up the hill at barely 3 MPH sucked more than running.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:32:58pm

re: #217 wrenchwench

Gourami?

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jaunte  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:33:28pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:34:07pm

re: #219 Dread Pirate Ron

Gourami?

Oh, salt water.

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wrenchwench  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:34:35pm

re: #218 Dread Pirate Ron

OK, just remembered my attempt at riding up Mt. Diablo on my 10 speed in high school. Pedaling as fast as I can and moving up the hill at barely 3 MPH sucked more than running.

Choice of equipment makes a bigger difference in cycling than in running. Especially if electricity is allowed.

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Jay C  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:43:38pm

Major personal rant over The Medical System below the button:

Sorry to have to use this valuable Internet space to vent personal frustrations: but 2022 has started off extraordinarily fucked chez Jay. The problem is with my wife : Mrs. Jay is a chronic-pain patient (Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome: inherited, untreatable and VERY painful), and last month, she suddenly had her supply of prescription painkillers cut off: our GP, who had been prescribing them, abruptly decided not to (citing “regulations”) - and her pain-management specialist proved even less useful: barred by corporate policy (he is part of a HUGE med complex in the City), from being “licensed” to prescribe “controlled” medications (or medical MJ for that matter); and could only suggest one particular drug - that we had already cited to him as being useless): though in a stepped-up-from-zero dosage. Makes no sense, but our complaints were, basically, met with shrugs. As has been most efforts to get her the Rx she needs, as, apparently, the State of NY has gone on another “anti-abuse” campaign enforcing regulations on serious-medication prescriptions: which, of course, negatively impacts legitimate users (like my wife) - while, I am sure, doing little or nothing to combat the major abuses, and still less to deter the abusers. So we are back to Square One in trying to deal with a situation of intractable, intense pain with no pharmaceutical relief. Good times…..

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retired cynic  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:46:43pm

re: #223 Jay C

Oh, I am so sorry! Every time I go to fill my pain meds, I’m afraid I will get cut off! Please give my sincere sympathy to Mrs. Jay! Good luck on finding a better doc. Contact your congressman?

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A Mom Anon  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:48:47pm

re: #223 Jay C

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:48:54pm

re: #223 Jay C

Yep, my wife is on pain management, she had back surgery, next is hip surgery, then knee surgery. Drug tests, getting refills in time, all sorts of troubles, and we’re not having near your troubles.

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wrenchwench  Jan 22, 2022 • 9:51:59pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 22, 2022 • 10:07:35pm
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wrenchwench  Jan 22, 2022 • 10:10:39pm
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stpaulbear  Jan 22, 2022 • 10:15:59pm

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No angst with this one.

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Jay C  Jan 22, 2022 • 10:17:02pm

re: #224 retired cynic

Oh, I am so sorry! Every time I go to fill my pain meds, I’m afraid I will get cut off! Please give my sincere sympathy to Mrs. Jay! Good luck on finding a better doc. Contact your congressman?

Actually, we have gotten a more-or-less sympathetic response from our State Senator (Liz Krueger): I figured that would be a better place to start, since the problems seem originate on the State level. Though sympathy and $2.75 will get you a subway ride: these sort of “enforcement” crusades come and go, and are typically pitched as a law-enforcement issue: so very little is likely to get done without major pressure from “The Public”. Which unfortunately, for pain patients, is a pretty small demographic…..

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Belafon  Jan 22, 2022 • 10:22:22pm

NBC just finished a story about a paraolympian (?sp). She an American, adopted from Ukraine when she was seven. She suffered radiation poisoning, which ended up costing her her legs from the knees down, and the use of most of her hands. She’s competed in the summer Olympics, and is doing winter for the first time. The radiation made her hands pretty gnarly, and she can’t grip because she has no use of her thumbs. They tape her sticks to her hands.

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Jay C  Jan 22, 2022 • 10:28:16pm

re: #225 A Mom Anon

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RinaX  Jan 22, 2022 • 10:28:22pm

I’m drowning myself in the Aaron Rodgers schadenfreude.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 22, 2022 • 10:29:02pm

re: #209 I Would Prefer Not To

I am proud of this. On the other hand, going to have to change my starting word.

Wordle 218 2/6

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Never have managed it in 2. My starting words are designed to pinpoint the vowels and so not as likely to detect the actual word before the 3rd guess.

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Belafon  Jan 22, 2022 • 10:30:22pm
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Belafon  Jan 22, 2022 • 10:30:54pm

re: #234 RinaX

I’m drowning myself in the Aaron Rodgers schadenfreude.

Wordle 218 4/6

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90% of my twitter feed is dunking on him.

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Belafon  Jan 22, 2022 • 10:34:36pm
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ckkatz  Jan 22, 2022 • 10:35:26pm
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 22, 2022 • 10:35:32pm

re: #236 Belafon

Because his ironic punishment is to be the cosmic punisher, and he’s made to do it?

The whole hell concept was a bad idea. The idea of a god that punishes with infinite torture, who’s supposedly a loving god, is what got me started questing the religion my parents attempted to raise me in. I know sadistic tyranny when I see it.

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ckkatz  Jan 22, 2022 • 10:56:08pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 22, 2022 • 10:58:57pm

re: #239 ckkatz

The big difference between the 30’s and now is that, unlike Germany, Russia is not an economic powerhouse nor a real military powerhouse, outside of its nuclear arsenal. It is not a potential conventional war that is the source of true concern; it is the terror that a conflict could escalate out of control and lead to a potential nuclear exchange. We also don’t know what type of damage Trump inflicted on our military capabilities because of his deference to Putin and what information he may have provided to the Russians. We do know that the GOP is a fifth column, waiting to impair any actions we might take to stop Putin’s invasion or attempts to overthrow the Ukraine government.

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Belafon  Jan 22, 2022 • 11:08:58pm

re: #242 Hecuba’s daughter

We do know that the GOP is a fifth column, waiting to impair any actions we might take to stop Putin’s invasion or attempts to overthrow the Ukraine government.

Until Japan attacked Pearl Harbor and Germany declared war on us, the Republicans acted the same way during WW2.

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Jay C  Jan 22, 2022 • 11:09:33pm

Wordle 218 4/6

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13 for 13 so far: 8 of them on four guesses (like this one)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 23, 2022 • 12:12:44am

re: #189 Teukka

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 23, 2022 • 12:24:33am

re: #230 stpaulbear

Wordle 218 4/6

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No angst with this one.

Nor here.

Wordle 218 3/6

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 23, 2022 • 12:27:54am

re: #235 Hecuba’s daughter

Never have managed it in 2. My starting words are designed to pinpoint the vowels and so not as likely to detect the actual word before the 3rd guess.

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I was using 3 vowels in word 1 as well. Hubs uses 3 consenants and always beats me. Today, I started with 3 consenants and, well, there ya go. Got it in 3.

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Targetpractice  Jan 23, 2022 • 12:41:06am

re: #210 mmmirele

Was looking for docs for a lawyer friend of mine in NYC who wanted to know more about the Thedacare v. Ascension case (aka “those seven employees you hired, we have an injunction to keep them from being onboarded as employees”). Here’s a Tweet with the email Thedacare sent out to its staff.

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Also, r/antiwork started up a GoFundMe for the seven so they could go ahead and quit working at Thedacare even if they weren’t able to go straight to Ascension.

There is a hearing on Monday at 10 am. I expect it’s going to be ugly. People are *pissed off*.

Realistically, this shit shouldn’t go past Monday. Thedacare’s CEO badly played his hand, between refusing to make counter-offers when his employees informed him about being hired by Ascension, trying to work over the hiring director at Ascension to give him “more time” instead of beginning to screen and hire replacements, and then waiting until the day before they were all supposed to begin the on-boarding process to file for an injunction. His whole legal strategy now amounts to begging the court to put the kibosh on the whole thing because his hospital’s stroke recovery department will lose Level II accreditation if he lacks staff to be open 24/7/365, while effectively accusing Ascension of maliciously poaching his staff in order to hurt his business.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 23, 2022 • 1:35:33am

re: #230 stpaulbear

Wordle 218 4/6

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No angst with this one.

Wordle 218 4/6

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Jan 23, 2022 • 1:44:58am

re: #243 Belafon

Until Japan attacked Pearl Harbor and Germany declared war on us, the Republicans acted the same way during WW2.

Neither Wendell Wilkie nor Thomas Dewey were among those asshats though.

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Targetpractice  Jan 23, 2022 • 1:47:02am

re: #228 Dread Pirate Ron

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That’s the issue that they (and a lot of people) don’t seem to really understand: Putin does not consider them sovereign states. Whether because he genuinely believes it or just acts like he does in order to keep the nationalists happy, his stated position is those nations belong to Russia and they takes their orders from the Kremlin. Remember that when he was still a KGB thug, the general policy for dealing with the leaders of those nations that refused Moscow’s will was not a bombastic speech on state media and vague threats of “consequences,” it often was being dragged in the night into a dark room to “apologize” for your offenses before suffering a sudden bout of “9mm flu.”

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ericblair  Jan 23, 2022 • 2:30:55am

re: #251 Targetpractice

That’s the issue that they (and a lot of people) don’t seem to really understand: Putin does not consider them sovereign states.

This is exactly right. Lavrov complained that the countries of Eastern Europe were “unowned” (beskhoznye), and Putin’s demands are basically for the US to hand back Ukraine to Russia or Russia will go and take it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 23, 2022 • 2:34:21am

re: #239 ckkatz

I don’t want to overstretch the Putin/Hitler comparisons, but all those ethnic Russian (up to 30 million) left stranded outside Russia after the breakup of the USSR are the equivalent of Hitler’s Sudentendeutschen and an ongoing pretext for making claims and demands.

And I do believe that Russia has a valid historical claim to Crimea, I just do not find that Putin’s use of military force to occupy it was justified because of it.

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JC1  Jan 23, 2022 • 2:36:06am

re: #223 Jay C

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 23, 2022 • 2:37:42am

re: #252 ericblair

This is exactly right. Lavrov complained that the countries of Eastern Europe were “unowned” (beskhoznye), and Putin’s demands are basically for the US to hand back Ukraine to Russia or Russia will go and take it.

People like to use the term “New Cold War” but I find it misleading: the Cold War was a global ideological conflict. Putin simply wants to re-establish the former Russian Empire by bringing all the former Soviet Republics back under Russia’s sphere of control.

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Targetpractice  Jan 23, 2022 • 3:29:49am

re: #242 Hecuba’s daughter

The big difference between the 30’s and now is that, unlike Germany, Russia is not an economic powerhouse nor a real military powerhouse, outside of its nuclear arsenal. It is not a potential conventional war that is the source of true concern; it is the terror that a conflict could escalate out of control and lead to a potential nuclear exchange. We also don’t know what type of damage Trump inflicted on our military capabilities because of his deference to Putin and what information he may have provided to the Russians. We do know that the GOP is a fifth column, waiting to impair any actions we might take to stop Putin’s invasion or attempts to overthrow the Ukraine government.

The country with the most powerful fighting force in 1938? France.
The country with the most tanks of any type in-service in 1938? Soviet Union.
The country with the largest naval forces in 1938? United Kingdom.

The country with the most successful bullshit artist as its Minister of Propaganda? Nazi Germany.

So much of what we “know” about German military prowess is pre and early war bullshit, much of it generated by people who were looking for reasons to play up war with Germany as a mistake. The Germans lied about their prowess in order to give their demands greater weight, warhawks played about their strength to justify increased defense spending, while doves presented it as reason to acquiesce to Germany’s demands. Britain and France played up the might of “Blitzkrieg” to excuse their withdrawal from the continent and the routing of their forces in under a month respectively. And even the Soviets loved to portray Germany as an unstoppable juggernaut to handwave away all the damage that Stalin’s purges had done to the Red Army’s leadership.

What turned the tide on all of this? When Germany began losing in North Africa, largely to save Mussolini’s ass after his efforts to “rebuild” the Roman Empire had failed, thus putting their military in a position where they could not count upon superior numbers or control of the engagement to overwhelm enemy forces.

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Targetpractice  Jan 23, 2022 • 3:44:03am

re: #253 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I don’t want to overstretch the Putin/Hitler comparisons, but all those ethnic Russian (up to 30 million) left stranded outside Russia after the breakup of the USSR are the equivalent of Hitler’s Sudentendeutschen and an ongoing pretext for making claims and demands.

And I do believe that Russia has a valid historical claim to Crimea, I just do not find that Putin’s use of military force to occupy it was justified because of it.

The “annexation” of Crimea was basically Putin’s Anschluss, between the invasion, occupation, and subsequent “vote” to rejoin Russia. What is going on now is Putin’s Munch, an effort to try to force the hand of NATO by threatening a destructive force over land that none of the participants really care about in order to force a negotiated “peace.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 23, 2022 • 3:48:01am

re: #256 Targetpractice

The country with the most powerful fighting force in 1938? France.
The country with the most tanks of any type in-service in 1938? Soviet Union.
The country with the largest naval forces in 1938? United Kingdom.

The country with the most successful bullshit artist as its Minister of Propaganda? Nazi Germany.

Germany’s early successes were as much political as military. Hitler conquered Austria and Czechoslovakia without firing a shot. He signed a non-aggression pact with his biggest ideological foe, Russia, in order to invade Poland.

And in the West, he knew that the Allies would be divided. Belgium, desperate to remain neutral, refused any military alliance or cooperation with France and Germany and did not even allow allied forces into Belgium until the Germans invaded first.

They handed him the initiative and he used it. But both Poland and France were matters of only a few weeks. The strain did not begin to show until Germany got involved in campaigns that lasted longer.

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Targetpractice  Jan 23, 2022 • 3:57:57am

re: #258 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Germany’s early successes were as much political as military. Hitler conquered Austria and Czechoslovakia without firing a shot. He signed a non-aggression pact with his biggest ideological foe, Russia, in order to invade Poland.

And in the West, he knew that the Allies would be divided. Belgium, desperate to remain neutral, refused any military alliance or cooperation with France and Germany and did not even allow allied forces into Belgium until the Germans invaded first.

They handed him the initiative and he used it. But both Poland and France were matters of only a few weeks. The strain did not begin to show until Germany got involved in campaigns that lasted longer.

Theirs was a military very much in the Roman manner: They did not live to conquer so much as conquer to live, every conquest feeding the machine and enabling the next campaign. They would draft able-bodied men either into the military or the paramilitary forces, enslave portions of the population to do manual labor, incorporate captured weapons into the line of battle, and plunder any resources to fuel the whole machine. Only when they encountered sustained resistance did the machine begin to hiccup and then eventually break down, as the initial head rush of constant victories first turned into uncertainty and then eventually into feelings of defeat.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 23, 2022 • 4:02:33am

re: #259 Targetpractice

Theirs was a military very much in the Roman manner: They did not live to conquer so much as conquer to live, every conquest feeding the machine and enabling the next campaign. They would draft able-bodied men either into the military or the paramilitary forces, enslave portions of the population to do manual labor, incorporate captured weapons into the line of battle, and plunder any resources to fuel the whole machine. Only when they encountered sustained resistance did the machine begin to hiccup and then eventually break down, as the initial head rush of constant victories first turned into uncertainty and then eventually into feelings of defeat.

They really busted their teeth out trying to cross the Rhine and occupy Germania and move the borders of the Empire east to the Elbe, which would have saved considerable resources.

And that is pretty much the point when they stopped expanding and started contracting.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 23, 2022 • 4:33:14am
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Captain Magic  Jan 23, 2022 • 4:36:10am
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No Malarkey!  Jan 23, 2022 • 4:45:28am

Scott Quiner, whose wife had him transferred to a hospital in Texas from Minnesota when his doctors said it was time to take him off the ventilator, predictably died. The antivaxx right is whipping up hatred of his doctors for “murdering” him. I won’t link to it, but you can google his name if you want to read their insane rants.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 23, 2022 • 5:00:06am

re: #258 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Germany’s early successes were as much political as military. Hitler conquered Austria and Czechoslovakia without firing a shot. He signed a non-aggression pact with his biggest ideological foe, Russia, in order to invade Poland.

And in the West, he knew that the Allies would be divided. Belgium, desperate to remain neutral, refused any military alliance or cooperation with France and Germany and did not even allow allied forces into Belgium until the Germans invaded first.

They handed him the initiative and he used it. But both Poland and France were matters of only a few weeks. The strain did not begin to show until Germany got involved in campaigns that lasted longer.

Given the situation that existed on September 1, 1939, Nazi Germany could not win WWII. It lacked the capacity to successfully invade the UK. Its only hope to force them out of the war was unrestricted submarine warfare, which would inevitably bring the U.S. into the war just as it did in WWI. War with the Soviet Union was inevitable, as much due to Nazi ideology as anything. They were gambling that the Soviet Union would quickly collapse, and when that didn’t happen, the Nazis were doomed, because they didn’t have the resources, most critically oil, to defeat the Soviet Union, the British Empire and the United States combined. Finally, if the war had lasted a few months longer, the U.S. would’ve nuked them into oblivion.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 23, 2022 • 5:02:23am

Today’s was better than yesterday
Wordle 218 3/6

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Captain Magic  Jan 23, 2022 • 5:02:33am

re: #264 No Malarkey!

Finally, if the war had lasted a few months longer, the U.S. would’ve nuked them into oblivion.

And the US is still the only country to use nuclear weapons in anger.

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steve_davis  Jan 23, 2022 • 5:05:45am

re: #235 Hecuba’s daughter

Never have managed it in 2. My starting words are designed to pinpoint the vowels and so not as likely to detect the actual word before the 3rd guess.

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I as sooo irritated yesterday on wordle unlimited. My starting word is query, to kill three vowels, and I had a u, r and y all green. Do you think I could remember that curry is a fucking word? No.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 23, 2022 • 5:07:17am

re: #266 Captain Magic

And the US is still the only country to use nuclear weapons in anger.

That’s true.
It’s also fairly insignificant.
Civilization depends on our willingness to do it again.

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Jay C  Jan 23, 2022 • 5:07:55am

re: #254 JC1

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 23, 2022 • 5:09:29am

re: #266 Captain Magic

And the US is still the only country to use nuclear weapons in anger.

Saw some of Putin’s left-flank trolls citing that very fact as proof of US depravity just this morning. As though Stalin would not have gleefully nuked Berlin if he had the opportunity.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 23, 2022 • 5:24:19am
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Decatur Deb  Jan 23, 2022 • 5:26:56am

I missed the entire M&M shtick. What’s the recap?

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Ming5000  Jan 23, 2022 • 5:31:01am

Perusing Antivaxxer and saw some comments posted by Anymouse. Hi Anymouse.

This was also posted:
Mother of 6 dies from COVID-19 after emergency birth. She was 27. According to her husband, who also caught Covid, “Rico says the couple were not vaccinated due to their beliefs.” #FAFO
news4sanantonio.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 23, 2022 • 5:43:55am

re: #266 Captain Magic

And the US is still the only country to use nuclear weapons in anger.

Imagine Vietnam on steroids. That would’ve been an invasion of Japan.

Then imagine the USSR invading it from the north while we were fighting in the south.

That would’ve left us with North Korea on steroids.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 23, 2022 • 5:46:59am

re: #273 Ming5000

Mother of 6 dies from COVID-19 after emergency birth. She was 27. According to her husband, who also caught Covid, “Rico says the couple were not vaccinated due to their beliefs stupidity.”

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 23, 2022 • 5:53:35am

re: #45 jaunte

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sagehen  Jan 23, 2022 • 5:54:09am

re: #272 Decatur Deb

I missed the entire M&M shtick. What’s the recap?

The company that makes M&M’s has done some redesign on their “mascots”. The girl M&M’s are changing from heels and sexy boots into running shoes, the green M&M is losing the mascara and eyeliner, etc.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 23, 2022 • 5:55:24am

re: #277 sagehen

The company that makes M&M’s has done some redesign on their “mascots”. The girl M&M’s are changing from heels and sexy boots into running shoes, the green M&M is losing the mascara and eyeliner, etc.

Thnx. Slow news week.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 23, 2022 • 5:59:45am

re: #277 sagehen

The company that makes M&M’s has done some redesign on their “mascots”. The girl M&M’s are changing from heels and sexy boots into running shoes, the green M&M is losing the mascara and eyeliner, etc.

Tucker is mad that the cartoon M&Ms no longer give him a chubby.

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Dangerman  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:05:25am

re: #266 Captain Magic

And the US is still the only country to use nuclear weapons in anger.

truman had to figure that he was faced with no good choice and this was probably the least horrible.

japan would have been defeated without the bomb. it would have cost a lot in $ and in the lives of japanese, americans, chinese, russians. the overwhelming nature of this sort of gave the japanese a way to capitulate quickly and not dishonorably.

he also partly had to be thinking that using the bomb would make a ‘statement’, to the nuclear world that was just waking up. looks like it did.

(one man’s admittedly amateurish opinion)

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Dangerman  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:09:41am
New Zealand’s Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has cancelled her wedding after announcing new Covid restrictions,” the BBC reports.

“The entire country is set to be placed under the highest level of Covid restrictions after an outbreak of the Omicron variant.”

But nobody ” advised” Bojo the boozer was against regs

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:12:15am

re: #281 Dangerman

But nobody ” advised” Bojo the boozer was against regs

That fucker is still in office and from the looks of it is going to weather the storm. (I knew he had won out when they found out that Labour leader Keir Starmer had also had beers with his staff after hours)

Remember, you cannot shame a person who has no sense, of it or morally reproach someone without a conscience.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:12:52am

re: #280 Dangerman

truman had to figure that he was faced with no good choice and this was probably the least horrible.

japan would have been defeated without the bomb. it would have cost a lot in $ and in the lives of japanese, americans, chinese, russians. the overwhelming nature of this sort of gave the japanese a way to capitulate quickly and not dishonorably.

he also partly had to be thinking that using the bomb would make a ‘statement’, to the nuclear world that was just waking up. looks like it did.

(one man’s admittedly amateurish opinion)

Some people are righteously sure that dropping the bombs was a war crime, and some are absolutely sure it was the only way to end the war without invading Japan, causing millions of casualties. I don’t know what would’ve happened, so I’m not going to second guess Truman’s decision, which he viewed as his only realistic option.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:15:04am

re: #281 Dangerman

And I will bet New Zealand has very few COVID-19 cases.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:15:08am

The comments above about pain meds (opioids) in America has me a bit distressed as well.
Most of you know about my back fusion a couple of years back where they were lifesavers for me once I gave up the fight to NOT use them because of my fear of addiction. As an OCD alcky, that’s justified. But they got me thru that procedure without dependence and a small stockpile for emergencies. I think most of us tend to do this.

It’s been 3 years, my body’s aging as expected and not it looks like I may have ruptured a disc in my cervical region ( pain and numbness down my left arm into my hand). I’ve had to bite into that stockpile just to get some sleep. I’m without insurance as I’m just starting into Medicare, and we know how those wheels turn. I’ll get on Gail’s insurance next month to ride thru the administrative period.

Now I’m back to clinical doses of ibuprofen and 1 hydro at night.

It will be interesting and concerning to see what Doc Turner sez when I see him next month because I flat out told him I need these med available if and when I needed them. And he told me not to worry. Will see.
Fucking Sackler family screws America in more ways than the obvious.

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Dangerman  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:15:48am

re: #277 sagehen

The company that makes M&M’s has done some redesign on their “mascots”. The girl M&M’s are changing from heels and sexy boots into running shoes, the green M&M is losing the mascara and eyeliner, etc.

Its like doing “what’s the difference between these pictures”
I didn’t see any of it
I had to read the descriptions

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Teukka  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:17:11am

re: #245 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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jeffreyw  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:19:29am

Good morning!

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ipsos  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:20:12am

If Chuck Todd tends to irritate you, today’s an especially good day to not watch Press the Meat.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:22:42am

re: #289 ipsos

If Chuck Todd tends to irritate you, today’s an especially good day to not watch Press the Meat.

Never do.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:23:38am

re: #289 ipsos

If Chuck Todd tends to irritate you, today’s an especially good day to not watch Press the Meat.

That would be a hard No from this guy. I strongly believe we’re related as there are strong family resemblance’s.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:27:02am

re: #291 Dave In Austin

That would be a hard No from this guy. I strongly believe we’re related as there are strong family resemblance’s.

part of his appeal is that he is so archetypal in appearance

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No Malarkey!  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:27:13am

A Washington State Trooper who became an antivaxx hero when he got fired for not getting vaccinated because it “violated his religious beliefs” may be hospitalized with Covid. He hasn’t posted on FB in two weeks. I don’t understand why anyone would think their God wants them to suffer and possibly die from an easily preventable cause. sorryantivaxxer.com

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:27:31am

I went over to google and took a look at COVID-19 cases in NZ. They have 71 cases. I can see why they are locking down and why the PM cancelled her wedding.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:28:54am

re: #277 sagehen

The company that makes M&M’s has done some redesign on their “mascots”. The girl M&M’s are changing from heels and sexy boots into running shoes, the green M&M is losing the mascara and eyeliner, etc.

Tastes and sensibilities change over time, and arch-conservative pundits see this as a sign of moral decay and social decline. These are much the same people who think that it was a bad idea to expand the voting franchise beyond landowning white males…

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steve_davis  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:32:00am

Nurse Jesse keeping me warm this morning.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:35:52am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:36:00am

re: #248 Targetpractice

Realistically, this shit shouldn’t go past Monday. Thedacare’s CEO badly played his hand, between refusing to make counter-offers when his employees informed him about being hired by Ascension, trying to work over the hiring director at Ascension to give him “more time” instead of beginning to screen and hire replacements, and then waiting until the day before they were all supposed to begin the on-boarding process to file for an injunction. His whole legal strategy now amounts to begging the court to put the kibosh on the whole thing because his hospital’s stroke recovery department will lose Level II accreditation if he lacks staff to be open 24/7/365, while effectively accusing Ascension of maliciously poaching his staff in order to hurt his business.

So a probable lover of unfettered capitalism fucked around and is finding out.

I presume that when or if someone digs deeper there will be discovery that they treated employees as just another asset and not as a set of professionals who are very much key to your business. That they run to the courts to prevent consequences just continues to show the hypocrisy in which they treat the employer/employee relationship.

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Dangerman  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:36:19am

re: #283 No Malarkey!

Some people are righteously sure that dropping the bombs was a war crime, and some are absolutely sure it was the only way to end the war without invading Japan, causing millions of casualties. I don’t know what would’ve happened, so I’m not going to second guess Truman’s decision, which he viewed as his only realistic option.

“conventional” bombing of Japanese cities probably killed and injured more people than the two atomic bombings.

Just the number of planes and crew.

I guess this discussion comes up whenever new war killing tech evolves.
Musket vs sword and lance, repeater vs musket, gatling gun, and on and on

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2020 Blue Wisconsin  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:37:30am

Got lucky on attempt 2, thought for sure I had it on #3.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:38:16am
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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:40:15am

re: #223 Jay C

Major personal rant over The Medical System below the button:

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:40:23am

What if it’s the Sars versions of the common cold plus a genetic predisposition:

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:40:54am

re: #267 steve_davis

I as sooo irritated yesterday on wordle unlimited. My starting word is query, to kill three vowels, and I had a u, r and y all green. Do you think I could remember that curry is a fucking word? No.

Why not use RATIO, AUDIT or something with more popular letters than Q?

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Dangerman  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:44:02am

re: #297 Belafon

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This this this this this this this!!!!!!!!

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:45:44am

re: #299 Dangerman

“conventional” bombing of Japanese cities probably killed and injured more people than the two atomic bombings.

Just the number of planes and crew.

I guess this discussion comes up whenever new war killing tech evolves.
Musket vs sword and lance, repeater vs musket, gatling gun, and on and on

Trying to ban use of the crossbow since it was an “Unchristian” weapon.*

* - And probably in part due to the fact that as a number of ranges it could penetrate the nobility’s expensive armor. And a fairly untrained infantryman could be trained to use it.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:47:04am

re: #304 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Why not use RATIO, AUDIT or something with more popular letters than Q?

PESTO?

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:48:43am

It snowed about 2 inches last night and my grandkids are SOOOO EXCITED!!! They came from Florida just to experience Michigan weather and the weather obliged.

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steve_davis  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:50:49am

re: #304 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Why not use RATIO, AUDIT or something with more popular letters than Q?

Because I chose query, and I’m sticking with it, damnit. Plus I didn’t think of those two.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:53:05am

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 23, 2022 • 6:59:12am

When I was a kid about 3rd or 4th grade, we read a story in class about a pair of dogs who were adopted by typesetters at a newspaper. They named the dogs Etaoin and Shrdlu.

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Dangerman  Jan 23, 2022 • 7:01:55am

Hes calling a senior advisor to the president of the united states, in fact *his* senior advisor, a child

Former President Donald Trump slammed the Jan. 6 committee investigating the Capitol insurrection after it asking his daughter Ivanka Trump to sit for an interview, The Hill reports.

Said Trump: “It’s a very unfair situation for my children. Very, very unfair.”

He added: “It’s a disgrace, what’s going on. They’re using these things to try and get people’s minds off how incompetently our country is being run. And they don’t care. They’ll go after children.”

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Dangerman  Jan 23, 2022 • 7:02:50am

re: #312 Dangerman

Hes calling a senior advisor to the president of the united states, in fact *his* senior advisor, a child

Ps another reason not to use nepotism

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 23, 2022 • 7:04:29am

My 14-month-old grandson, who started walking just 2 weeks ago, has figured out how to go up and down stairs. NOTHING IS SAFE!

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 23, 2022 • 7:05:28am

re: #312 Dangerman

Hes calling a senior advisor to the president of the united states, in fact *his* senior advisor, a child

She is a 40-year-old grown ass adult.

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Dangerman  Jan 23, 2022 • 7:05:53am

re: #313 Dangerman

Ps another reason not to use nepotism

Pps as mrsdm just pointed out, then hunter Biden’s a child.

Who went after him?

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Dangerman  Jan 23, 2022 • 7:12:46am

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 23, 2022 • 7:14:42am

re: #317 Dangerman

Might? Hmm. I would probably use a word that is stronger.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 23, 2022 • 7:18:35am

re: #307 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

PESTO?

That’s a good one! I change mine daily. DINER, SONAR, RADIO… There so many good ones.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 23, 2022 • 7:19:31am

re: #309 steve_davis

Are you feeling ok? Is nurse Jessie making the boo boo all better?

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2022 • 7:20:08am

Whenever you see people bashing the youth, give them the story of the EMT service in Sackets Harbor, NY, made up of high school students. The kids have actually left school, responded to an emergency, and then have gone back to school, sometimes after telling someone their family member could not be saved.

cbsnews.com

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 23, 2022 • 7:33:21am

re: #270 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Saw some of Putin’s left-flank trolls citing that very fact as proof of US depravity just this morning. As though Stalin would not have gleefully nuked Berlin if he had the opportunity.

With a lot of his own troops in the blast radius.

To people like Hitler and Stalin human lives are just tokens to be fed into a slot machine.

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dat_said  Jan 23, 2022 • 7:34:14am

re: #303 Belafon

What if it’s the Sars versions of the common cold plus a genetic predisposition:

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I think this line of thought about Alzheimers and Parkinson has been going on for a number of years. Covid is just accelerating studying that type of impact to the body. It’s pretty clearly established that chronic fatigue syndrome/fibromyalgia can be triggered by a viral infection. There are a number of diseases that impact the autonomic nervous system and, once there’s ANS dysfunction, things start cascading. Heart failure, GERD, Alzheimers, Parkinsons, epilepsy, diabetes, and more all adversely impact the ANS. I do believe in years forward that ANS dysfunction diagnosis and management will play a key role in treatment and outcomes will improve.

ANS plays a role in regulating basic functions like heart rate, breathing, blood pressure, digestion. The ANS is typically thought of as having two roles - sympathetic (flight or fight response) and parasympathetic (rest and digest) - and a healthy ANS keeps those two in balance.

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darthstar  Jan 23, 2022 • 7:35:17am

Good morning…back on the winning side…unlike that plague rat Aaron Rodgers.

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darthstar  Jan 23, 2022 • 7:38:22am

re: #317 Dangerman

Barron and Tiffany aren’t in legal trouble…yet. But I suspect Tiffany is talking to lawyers about how to extract her inheritance before it gets impounded.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2022 • 7:40:47am

re: #323 dat_said

I think this line of thought about Alzheimers and Parkinson has been going on for a number of years. Covid is just accelerating studying that type of impact to the body. It’s pretty clearly established that chronic fatigue syndrome/fibromyalgia can be triggered by a viral infection. There are a number of diseases that impact the autonomic nervous system and, once there’s ANS dysfunction, things start cascading. Heart failure, GERD, Alzheimers, Parkinsons, epilepsy, diabetes, and more all adversely impact the ANS. I do believe in years forward that ANS dysfunction diagnosis and management will play a key role in treatment and outcomes will improve.

ANS plays a role in regulating basic functions like heart rate, breathing, blood pressure, digestion. The ANS is typically thought of as having two roles - sympathetic (flight or fight response) and parasympathetic (rest and digest) - and a healthy ANS keeps those two in balance.

This time, we know the virus, and can see the effects. Medicine, until the late 20th century, was about figuring out the disease from the symptoms. Knowing the trigger in this case is going to give us clues about the structure of other viruses.

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darthstar  Jan 23, 2022 • 7:42:22am

re: #267 steve_davis

I started with AERIE yesterday and wasn’t happy with only having vowels and no consonants. I’d rather use a single vowel (SPELT today) and then burn other vowels on the second word with a working consonant.

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darthstar  Jan 23, 2022 • 7:45:06am
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Dangerman  Jan 23, 2022 • 7:45:23am

re: #324 darthstar

Good morning…back on the winning side…unlike that plague rat Aaron Rodgers.

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Guess he wont need to be tested next week, huh?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 23, 2022 • 7:46:22am

re: #304 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Why not use RATIO, AUDIT or something with more popular letters than Q?

I start with POINT

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Dangerman  Jan 23, 2022 • 7:47:27am

re: #325 darthstar

Barron and Tiffany aren’t in legal trouble…yet. But I suspect Tiffany is talking to lawyers about how to extract her inheritance before it gets impounded.

Well it did say “3”, not ” all”

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2022 • 7:49:30am

re: #325 darthstar

Barron and Tiffany aren’t in legal trouble…yet. But I suspect Tiffany is talking to lawyers about how to extract her inheritance before it gets impounded.

What inheritance?

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William Lewis  Jan 23, 2022 • 7:49:31am

One aside on Rodgers. In the draft, everyone expected him to be the number one pick of SF. Instead, he fell to 24 and was picked up by the Packers. Where, to be honest, he’s had a damn good football career. But as one of his points of arrogance along with the whole Covid shit is that he likes to say how he’ll make SF sorry that they didn’t draft him.

He’s 0 - 4 against SF in the playoffs now… ;)

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2022 • 7:51:29am

re: #333 William Lewis

One aside on Rodgers. In the draft, everyone expected him to be the number one pick of SF. Instead, he fell to 24 and was picked up by the Packers. Where, to be honest, he’s had a damn good football career. But as one of his points of arrogance along with the whole Covid shit is that he likes to say how he’ll make SF sorry that they didn’t draft him.

He’s 0 - 4 against SF in the playoffs now… ;)

Who did the 49’ers pick?

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Teukka  Jan 23, 2022 • 7:52:06am

Ara ara…

Iframe

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ipsos  Jan 23, 2022 • 7:54:25am

The difference between MTP and Face the Nation is especially stark today.

Tuck Choad’s Hour of Assholery was almost entirely horse-race stuff, gloom-and-dooming Democratic prospects for the midterms and pushing their latest bullshit poll numbers. (Hint, Chuck: “presidential approval rating” when you’re polling know-nothings is really just a measure of the overall national mood, and we live in shitty times, so.)

While Todd at least talked briefly about Ukraine, interviewing Antony Blinken, Face the Nation led off with 20+ minutes with Bennie Thompson, talking about 1/6 and about Ukraine with much more substance and depth, and now Marg Brennan is having as serious a conversation with Michael McFaul as it’s possible to have with any Republican.

One country, one politic, two completely different levels of seriousness in talking about it.

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William Lewis  Jan 23, 2022 • 7:55:11am

re: #334 Belafon

Who did the 49’ers pick?

Alex Smith

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mmmirele  Jan 23, 2022 • 7:56:25am

re: #226 Dread Pirate Ron

Yep, my wife is on pain management, she had back surgery, next is hip surgery, then knee surgery. Drug tests, getting refills in time, all sorts of troubles, and we’re not having near your troubles.

Yeah, my brother is now in a pain management practice and right now, things are OK-ish. But he was in SCREAMING pain at one point last summer, he went over to the Banner Baywood Medical Center ER (yeah, I’m naming names) and was reamed out by the doc there for wanting pain pills. He was treated like some sort of DRUG FIEND. Oh, and told to never come back. But he did get four Percocet to tide him over until his first cortisone shot. Ironically, as I was driving home from having been over there to watch mom while he was in the ER, I was sitting in the driveup line at McDonalds and came across some doctor on Twitter who was crowing about how she and her group had reduced the number of opioids being prescribed in the USA, and I LIT INTO HER. No, it was not a good time for me to come across some self-righteous woman on a crusade, not when I’d seen the result of same crusade only a few minutes previously.

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darthstar  Jan 23, 2022 • 7:58:47am

Sounds like Rudy Giuliani is going to experience some things. Flipping on Trump is probably his best bet now.

Igor Fruman just got a year for giving Russian cash to Republicans…and the Special Master has reviewed all of Rudy’s 18 mobile phones and handed them all over to the FBI.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 23, 2022 • 8:01:00am

re: #314 The Pie Overlord!

My 14-month-old grandson, who started walking just 2 weeks ago, has figured out how to go up and down stairs. NOTHING IS SAFE!

Going up is fine, it’s is just the coming down part that is worrisome.

One of my first childhood memories is lying at the bottom of the cellar stairs, looking up at my family and hearing my mother ask who left the gate open…

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Dangerman  Jan 23, 2022 • 8:06:22am

re: #339 darthstar

Sounds like Rudy Giuliani is going to experience some things. Flipping on Trump is probably his best bet now.

Igor Fruman just got a year for giving Russian cash to Republicans…and the Special Master has reviewed all of Rudy’s 18 mobile phones and handed them all over to the FBI.

“It is hard to convey how monumentally stupid this was”. (The forged certificates)

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Teukka  Jan 23, 2022 • 8:07:27am

re: #341 Dangerman

“It is hard to convey how monumentally stupid this was”. (The forged certificates)

Yeah, like, when you get Anderson Cooper to drop an expletive on air, that’s something…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 23, 2022 • 8:08:35am

re: #339 darthstar

Sounds like Rudy Giuliani is going to experience some things. Flipping on Trump is probably his best bet now.

.

Trump will be left in the position of saying “Who are you gonna believe, me or all these people who used to get up and say how great I was?”

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Dangerman  Jan 23, 2022 • 8:10:22am

re: #340 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Going up is fine, it’s is just the coming down part that is worrisome.

One of my first memories as a kids is one of lying at the bottom of the cellar stairs, looking up at my family and hearing my mother ask who left the gate open…

A little like cats and trees, they have to figure out how to descend butt first.

Because of their claws most all cats cannot descend head first like squirrels

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Florida Panhandler  Jan 23, 2022 • 8:12:28am

re: #339 darthstar

Sounds like Rudy Giuliani is going to experience some things. Flipping on Trump is probably his best bet now.

Igor Fruman just got a year for giving Russian cash to Republicans…and the Special Master has reviewed all of Rudy’s 18 mobile phones and handed them all over to the FBI.

Every single co-conspirator is counting on Trump or virtually any other Republican winning the White House in 2024 and quickly being issued full Pardons for everything and shielded from any other investigations. This is their legal strategy. It relies on the nation willfully giving up on being based on law and instead substituting rule by decree.

About 35%-45% of this country wants this sort of authoritarian rule by a white man …either directly or tacitly.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 23, 2022 • 8:14:37am

re: #345 Florida Panhandler

About 35%-45% of this country wants this sort of authoritarian rule by a white man …either directly or tacitly.

And historically, that has proven to be enough to get authoritarians in power. Permanently.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 23, 2022 • 8:15:47am

re: #345 Florida Panhandler

re: #346 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And that is why we must GOTV for every election.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 23, 2022 • 8:15:50am

re: #308 The Pie Overlord!

It snowed about 2 inches last night and my grandkids are SOOOO EXCITED!!! They came from Florida just to experience Michigan weather and the weather obliged.

We need pics.

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darthstar  Jan 23, 2022 • 8:17:48am

re: #345 Florida Panhandler

Trump pardoned a shit-ton of people on his way out, and if he had a few more days, might have been able to double that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 23, 2022 • 8:20:12am

re: #349 jaunte

“…we ought to have went armed and took it back…”

We need to start teaching Bubbonics as a sub-dialect of English.

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sagehen  Jan 23, 2022 • 8:20:30am

re: #325 darthstar

Barron and Tiffany aren’t in legal trouble…yet. But I suspect Tiffany is talking to lawyers about how to extract her inheritance before it gets impounded.

Marla’s no fool.

I’m sure Marla and Tiff were both well-compensated for their silence.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 23, 2022 • 8:21:43am

Again, Trump is THE FIRST PRESIDENT IN HISTORY who has refused to recognize the legality of his successor and the first living President since Andrew Johnson in 1869 who failed to attend his successor’s inauguration.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jan 23, 2022 • 8:26:40am

re: #288 jeffreyw

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Western good morning!

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 23, 2022 • 8:27:14am

re: #354 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

They are pretty.

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jaunte  Jan 23, 2022 • 8:27:33am

“…For Fredrick Miller, the 10.5-acre-estate he’d purchased for $225,000 ended up not being just a future gathering spot for the family, but also its first traceable point in the United States — an astonishing revelation for him. It also left him thinking about family history and the absence of that history for many people like him.
“You’ve got to know where you come from,” he said in a phone interview from his California home. “You’ve got to know where you come from. It’s unfortunate that a lot of us don’t.”
In an undated photo of [great-grandmother] Sarah that family members have shared with one another, the mother of seven wears wire-rimmed glasses and faces the camera with a somber expression. When he looks at the photo of his great-grandmother, Fredrick Miller sees sadness in her face. But, he hopes, maybe this purchase has brought some redemption.
With Sharswood in his hands, her family is reclaiming its past.
“I just hope that somehow she’s looking down from heaven and finally cracking a beautiful smile,” he said.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 23, 2022 • 8:30:28am

re: #299 Dangerman

“conventional” bombing of Japanese cities probably killed and injured more people than the two atomic bombings.

Just the number of planes and crew.

I guess this discussion comes up whenever new war killing tech evolves.
Musket vs sword and lance, repeater vs musket, gatling gun, and on and on

Bombing is a little different because bombing is method of sliding over defenses to attack the infrastructure of war, which invariably means civilians dying, since logistics and manufacturing to keep a war going is largely civilian labor and material re-tooled for the effort. Even when doing “strategic bombing” you’re targeting population centers, and doing so with weapons that, by nature of how they’re deployed and under what conditions, will miss the strategic target.

Intentionality and accuracy are an important aspect of dictating what constitutes atrocity…or at least used to be, since developed countries have assembled an entire rhetoric to justify dropping explosives on people that can’t fight back by redefining what constitutes a legitimate target. The distinction between the V-1—which was a terror weapon precisely because it had no aiming, and a gravity bomb that could nominally be aimed by a sight but in the breach was often off-target because of prevailing conditions is…semantics.

“We trying, but there was collateral damage” just keeps being developed into more and more sophisticated versions, but bombs continue to function and be used as terror weapons, and also coincidentally their collateral damage has become normalized…the target, the overall strategy, requires random arbitrary civilian death is now an implicit part of the war-making of developed nations…mostly against targets in undeveloped nations. The rhetoric of drone killings is simply the purest distillation of this: this one guy has to die so the wedding party has to die (but also the wedding party is suspect because The War in Terror is built on the core premise of collective guilt).

…to say nothing of the colonial history of just doing terror bombing (or massed artillery versus cities, if you’re Russia) versus people who have no ability to counter…which is ongoing. Saudi Arabia right now is just throwing shit randomly at dense targets in Yemen, and always claiming that there’s a justification…enough Houthis that the dead children, or the dead prisoners, are worth the cost.

This all gets especially…fucked…if one goes back and looks at the intended effects of saturation bombing in WW2. Churchill’s egghead buddy who arrived at the idea of depleting Germany through bombing actually imagined that every bombing raid would generate morale-destroying fire storms, but did the density math wrong: every single urban strike was meant to cause a Dresden fire. Even a pretty hawkish guy like Freeman Dyson looked back on this a declared it ridiculous, war theater that delayed productive strategic moves guided by a dilletante who did the math wrong and then never got called on it.

The core argument for bombing is, once you cut away the fat, that it’s a utilitarian atrocity, distinct in it’s impersonalness from the more visceral atrocity of soldiers doing things in person: it will kill people that aren’t combatants, but ultimately that’s better because the it means both that your side doesn’t risk men and the other side suffers in ways that will shorten the war overall: these deaths upfront provide savings on annual butcher’s bills. But…that hasn’t really ever worked out. Saturation bombing has never terrorized a population so much they stopped functioning as a logistical basis for war-fighting; indeed, in many places they’ve doubled down, become radicalized because the war is no longer an abstraction, to the point that even after the victory insurgency is seen as necessary.

This was learnable in the reaction of German bombing of Great Britain, but somehow in subsequent wars….mostly against nonwhites…the tenacity and viciousness of bombing subjects in their resistance is viewed not as understandable, but as the product of some kind of inhuman fanaticism that requires enough harsher measures because the subjects are…orcs, basically.

This exists prior to aerial bombing, mind you. Yanks have many versions of the individualist fantasy of the hero dying fighting the oppressing hordes—the direct legacy of a thousand-year cross-stitched repetition of Leonidas and Horatius Cocles through European culture—could not understand or respect the choices of a Moro juramentado.

And yes, I’d said an very important part of talking about war doctrine is the undergirding distinction of “who is a full person” that emanates from existing cultural bias, not from the expediencies of strategy. Nazism didn’t do anything colonialist empires weren’t already doing, they just did it faster and to people lighter than a paper bag. Countries that decried WW2 concentrations camps then used concentrations camps in their late colonial wars, because the rule the Nazis broke wasn’t “don’t do this, ever” but “we don’t do this to our own kind.”

And that’s still with us: modern drone usage cannot be pried away from the War On Terror rhetoric of radicalization as a moral contagion within Islamic communities such that any Muslim has some culpability…a lethal version of the way “gang affiliated” is used to justify more severity and lethality in policing. Bashar al-Assad and MBS blow people apart with planes and then point and say “hey, those were Islamic radicals” and…they’re not being inconsistent with existing norms.

And all of which puts a rather interesting retroactive sheen on decisions made around Japan, because at no point did someone suggest that Japanese resilience could correlate to, say, doubling down in response to successful firestorms whipped up by bombing as opposed to an inherent racial-cultural trait that made then incapable of surrender. (again, remember the British narrative in which surviving the Blitz made them stronger was literally right there as a point of comparison) Nor was it considered that Japanese suicide rather than surrender could have been driven by, say…accurately assessing how the white colonial powers have consistently treated nonwhites.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 23, 2022 • 8:30:38am

re: #356 jaunte

Fredrick Miller, who lives in California, bought an old house in Gretna, VA. He later discovered the property was part of a plantation where his ancestors had been enslaved.

Teaching about this is now illegal in several states. Might make people feel bad.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 23, 2022 • 8:35:42am

re: #350 darthstar

Trump pardoned a shit-ton of people on his way out, and if he had a few more days, might have been able to double that.

Don’t they have to be convicted of something before Trump can pardon them?

Then again, in TrumpWorld I guess the preemptive pardon would be a thing.

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darthstar  Jan 23, 2022 • 8:35:50am

re: #352 sagehen

Marla’s no fool.

I’m sure Marla and Tiff were both well-compensated for their silence.

You want an NDA Donald? Cash on the barrel head. Up front. No, we don’t trust you.

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Captain Magic  Jan 23, 2022 • 8:41:56am

Hershey Bears fans let the stuffed animals fly in world-record fashion.

Hershey, the American Hockey League affiliate of the NHL’s Washington Capitals, hosted its annual “Teddy Bear Toss” game on Saturday night.

The well-equipped fans entered the Giant Center with full garbage bags containing the plush animals and eagerly waited. The highly anticipated promotion is when fans throw and donate stuffed animals onto the ice following Hershey’s first goal.

Bears forward Axel Jonsson-Fjällby opened the scoring — and the flood gates — in the first period. Thousands of stuffed animals sailed over the glass and blanketed the ice to commemorate the spectacle.

“Sweet, cuddly mayhem,” Bears broadcast announcer Zack Fisch said. “It’s Teddy Bear Toss time!”

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2022 • 8:43:59am

re: #337 William Lewis

Alex Smith

I remember watching the bowl game Utah played when he was a senior. That team seemed to be able to execute the screen play with such precision that the other team couldn’t combat it.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 23, 2022 • 8:45:28am

re: #299 Dangerman

“conventional” bombing of Japanese cities probably killed and injured more people than the two atomic bombings.

Just the number of planes and crew.

I guess this discussion comes up whenever new war killing tech evolves.
Musket vs sword and lance, repeater vs musket, gatling gun, and on and on

Operation Meetinghouse, the first big fire-raising attack against Tokyo, on March 10 1945, probably killed more people (90,000-100,000) than either of the atomic bombings. There were many more such raids over the next few months, against a number of cities. The most conservative estimates are 400,000 deaths from these, with twice that many considered a credible possibility. Toward the end of the campaign, allied air superiority was such that XXI Bomber Command started publicly announcing targets in advance. Leaflets were dropped warning residents to flee.

The decision to use the atomic bombs was therefore not as momentous in context as it is usually portrayed to be. The decision had actually been made much earlier with the firestorms that destroyed Hamburg and Dresden and countless other places. It was already policy to burn cities to the ground. The A-bomb was just a hotter and more convenient match.
Truman would have to have decided NOT to use the bomb. The scientists who had developed the infernal apparatus (as MacArthur called it) had petitioned him to do just that. Their arguments were frankly unconvincing. They had loaded and cocked the gun, now they were in a panic to keep the trigger from being pulled.

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darthstar  Jan 23, 2022 • 8:51:48am

re: #362 Belafon

I remember watching the bowl game Utah played when he was a senior. That team seemed to be able to execute the screen play with such precision that the other team couldn’t combat it.

I read that as Johnny Utah, but you meant Alex Smith at Utah.

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Teukka  Jan 23, 2022 • 8:53:00am

FYI:

Iframe

Theme #1: “Russia is an Innocent Victim”
Theme #2: Historical Revisionism
Theme #3: “The Collapse of Western Civilization is Imminent”
Theme #4: “Popular Movements are U.S.-sponsored ‘Color Revolutions’”
Theme #5: Reality is Whatever the Kremlin Wants It to Be

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2022 • 8:53:57am

re: #357 The Ghost of a Flea

Bombing is a little different because bombing is method of sliding over defenses to attack the infrastructure of war, which invariably means civilians dying, since logistics and manufacturing to keep a war going is largely civilian labor and material re-tooled for the effort.

Like catapults and trebuchets.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 23, 2022 • 8:54:13am

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Decatur Deb  Jan 23, 2022 • 8:54:46am

re: #357 The Ghost of a Flea

Things would have gone much better for occupied Japan if the British and Americans had left them in the care of fellow-Asian Korean and Chinese overlords.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2022 • 8:58:17am

re: #365 Teukka

FYI:

[Embedded content]

Theme #1: “Russia is an Innocent Victim”
Theme #2: Historical Revisionism
Theme #3: “The Collapse of Western Civilization is Imminent”
Theme #4: “Popular Movements are U.S.-sponsored ‘Color Revolutions’”
Theme #5: Reality is Whatever the Kremlin Wants It to Be

It’s odd how you can just replace Russian with white and Republican to describe one party here.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2022 • 8:59:18am

re: #368 Decatur Deb

Things would have gone much better for occupied Japan if the British and Americans had left them in the care of fellow-Asian Korean and Chinese overlords.

I think the direction things were going, from what I understand, was that it was either us or the Russians that would have been in charge.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:00:37am

re: #370 Belafon

I think the direction things were going, from what I understand, was that it was either us or the Russians that would have been in charge.

Lucky for the Japanese, then.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:01:16am

re: #357 The Ghost of a Flea
re: #363 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

re: #357 The Ghost of a Flea

Seems to me we have seen the near future of “strategic” war and IMHO it is ballistic conventional weapons. Cities are mutually assured hostages with either hundreds of conventional missiles or handfuls of nukes. Too fast and numerous to easily defend against, certainly accurate on fixed targets and now able to strike targets that move as fleets or ships. Cities may crumble but remain inhabitable/rebuildable. Nothing is safe on the sea surface.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:03:06am

re: #368 Decatur Deb

Things would have gone much better for occupied Japan if the British and Americans had left them in the care of fellow-Asian Korean and Chinese overlords.

Okay, I’m not processing the precise level of dryness on this statement, but…

…colonizers have solidarity with one another even when they fight.

Germany and Japan were seen as understandable (and “correct” in their assessment of racial hierarchy and the right of developed nations to seize labor and resources) by the victors, and thus as usable material, versus the incomprehensible masses of colonized peoples proposing that the existing hierarchy was arbitrary, and the Soviets who they hadn’t realized were just a different kind of colonizer.

Two more martial races, if you will.

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Teukka  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:03:11am

re: #369 Belafon

It’s odd how you can just replace Russian with white and Republican to describe one party here.

Shh! That’s supposed to be secret! Besides, those liBULLars are so stupid that they’re never catch us in the act! /S 😉

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:05:29am

re: #374 Teukka

Psst. They already know.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:07:08am
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Decatur Deb  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:07:20am

re: #373 The Ghost of a Flea

Okay, I’m not processing the precise level of dryness on this statement, but…

…colonizers have solidarity with one another.

Germany and Japan were seen as understandable (and “correct” in their assessment of racial hierarchy and the right of developed nations to seize labor and resources) by the victors, and thus as usable material, versus the incomprehensible masses of colonized peoples proposing that the existing hierarchy was arbitrary, and the Soviets who they hadn’t realized were just a different kind of colonizer.

Two more martial races, if you will.

You are leaning into a thesis that Europeans are uniquely evil colonial motherfuckers. The fact is that humans are motherfuckers, and strong motherfuckers never miss the chance to prove that to weaker motherfuckers.

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William Lewis  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:08:33am

re: #365 Teukka

FYI:

[Embedded content]

Theme #1: “Russia is an Innocent Victim”
Theme #2: Historical Revisionism
Theme #3: “The Collapse of Western Civilization is Imminent”
Theme #4: “Popular Movements are U.S.-sponsored ‘Color Revolutions’”
Theme #5: Reality is Whatever the Kremlin Wants It to Be

All of which, really, are in support of Russian irredentism. It still won’t prevent the collapse of their economy, more likely sooner rather than later.

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jaunte  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:08:48am

re: #376 Dave In Austin

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No Malarkey!  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:11:04am

re: #359 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Don’t they have to be convicted of something before Trump can pardon them?

Then again, in TrumpWorld I guess the preemptive pardon would be a thing.

No. In the most famous example, Ford gave a preemptive pardon to Nixon.

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William Lewis  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:11:48am

re: #371 Decatur Deb

Lucky for the Japanese, then.

And us. Imagine “North Japan” and “South Japan” split somewhere between Tokyo and Fukushima…

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:12:53am

re: #380 No Malarkey!

Yes he did. If I remember correctly there was a big fuss made of it too.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:14:38am

re: #381 William Lewis

And us. Imagine “North Japan” and “South Japan” split somewhere between Tokyo and Fukushima…

The Russians did grab a sizeable island that they still control, IIRC.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:14:41am

re: #293 No Malarkey!

A Washington State Trooper who became an antivaxx hero when he got fired for not getting vaccinated because it “violated his religious beliefs” may be hospitalized with Covid. He hasn’t posted on FB in two weeks. I don’t understand why anyone would think their God wants them to suffer and possibly die from an easily preventable cause. sorryantivaxxer.com

His G-d is the GOP and the desire to destroy Biden. Anything in service to that goal is worth the sacrifice.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:14:59am

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No Malarkey!  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:15:26am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:15:28am

re: #345 Florida Panhandler

About 35%-45% of this country wants this sort of authoritarian rule by a white man …either directly or tacitly.

I think it’s more like 60-70% — the hard-core progressives are the same.

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William Lewis  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:16:36am

re: #383 Decatur Deb

Kuril Island Chain. The Japanese claim the southern 4 islands.

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nines09  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:17:44am

re: #363 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

A Torch to the Enemy: The Fire Raid on Tokyo

Read this book many moon ago. It still is with me. Descriptive and brutal.
Japanese used wood extensively. It burned very well.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:19:00am

re: #388 William Lewis

Kuril Island Chain. The Japanese claim the southern 4 islands.

They gave up Sakhalin.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:19:10am

re: #387 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I think it’s more like 60-70% — the hard-core progressives are the same.

If Bernie was President, the VRA and the Green New Deal would’ve already passed, D.C. would be a state, and we would have four new progressive Justices on SCOTUS./

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mmmirele  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:19:58am

Hoo boy, I’m seriously wondering how *this* managed to make it through editing into today’s newspapers.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:22:25am
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Decatur Deb  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:22:35am

re: #389 nines09

A Torch to the Enemy: The Fire Raid on Tokyo

Read this book many moon ago. It still is with me. Descriptive and brutal.
Japanese used wood extensively. It burned very well.

Vaporizing people with uranium is bad. Torching them with thermite and phospohrus is good. Says so right in the Gospel of Energetics.

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nines09  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:26:32am

re: #394 Decatur Deb

Vaporizing people with uranium is bad. Torching them with thermite and phospohrus is good. Says so right in the Gospel of Energetics.

Never bought the notion us dropping the A Bomb being a “bad” thing. The war itself was THE “bad” thing.
Close it out. End it as quickly as possible. Or lose countless more lives. On both sides.
And for all over so called civilizing, we got better and better at destroying the non combatants in war because THAT was who was enabling the war machine to operate.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:30:20am

re: #376 Dave In Austin

Arrested and fired. Perfect.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:30:48am

re: #393 Dave In Austin

Beau as usual has a point. He has a very good point and I do not think she is going to change her position.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:31:19am

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Decatur Deb  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:31:25am

re: #395 nines09

Never bought the notion us dropping the A Bomb being a “bad” thing. The war itself was THE “bad” thing.
Close it out. End it as quickly as possible. Or lose countless more lives. On both sides.
And for all over so called civilizing, we got better and better at destroying the non combatants in war because THAT was who was enabling the war machine to operate.

We are answerable for our leaders, whether we elect them or fail to work hard enough to prevent their election. They know that now in Berlin and Tokyo. We have not yet learned it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:34:34am

re: #376 Dave In Austin

JFC. What an asshole.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:36:43am

re: #319 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

That’s a good one! I change mine daily. DINER, SONAR, RADIO… There so many good ones.

I set mine up to exhaust the vowels with the first 2 words, if necessary.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:37:25am

re: #396 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Arrested and fired. Perfect.

Idiot ruined his life because of a damn drink.

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steve_davis  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:37:50am

re: #314 The Pie Overlord!

My 14-month-old grandson, who started walking just 2 weeks ago, has figured out how to go up and down stairs. NOTHING IS SAFE!

Congrats. It took the daleks until the McCoy years to learn that.

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wrenchwench  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:38:23am

re: #386 No Malarkey!

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That guy looks like he REALLY needs his coffee, and he needs it to taste just right. The woman needs a serving of pro bono.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:40:37am

re: #327 darthstar

I started with AERIE yesterday and wasn’t happy with only having vowels and no consonants. I’d rather use a single vowel (SPELT today) and then burn other vowels on the second word with a working consonant.

How about IRATE? Same letters + one additional consonant.

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jaunte  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:41:26am

re: #358 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Teaching about this is now illegal in several states. Might make people feel bad.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:45:39am

Well. Hmm.

So I mentioned last night that my kid was going to see Bruce Dickinson tonight in Atlanta. So I went to the venue website to see what their covid policies are. Looks fine but…

This same venue is hosting Jordan Peterson on March 1. Gross. Even worse, it’s almost sold out, where Bruce’s still has about 100 seats left. Sigh. Come on Georgia we can do better than than this.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:46:48am

re: #341 Dangerman

“It is hard to convey how monumentally stupid this was”. (The forged certificates)

They were hoping to get a repeat of the 1876 election, where several states submitted competing slates of electors and the candidate who won the popular vote, Samuel Tilden, lost the election due to a corrupt bargain that left Rutherford B Hayes as president.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:47:17am

Not great, but better than I thought it might go after the 3rd guess.
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Eventual Carrion  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:49:36am

Almost time for Webb telescope to start looking for a parking place.

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darthstar  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:57:31am

re: #405 Hecuba’s daughter

How about IRATE? Same letters + one additional consonant.

That’s good.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:59:00am

re: #406 jaunte

There are a whole lot of very defensive white people in the replies.

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darthstar  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:59:00am

re: #410 Eventual Carrion

Almost time for Webb telescope to start looking for a parking place.

How many miles from Earth is it going to be when it settles? Is it inside Lunar orbit?

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darthstar  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:59:34am

re: #412 Belafon

There are a whole lot of very defensive white people in the replies.

Defensive and insecure white people.

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wrenchwench  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:59:37am

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Teukka  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:59:37am

re: #413 darthstar

How many miles from Earth is it going to be when it settles? Is it inside Lunar orbit?

If memory serves me right, the parking lot is an Lagrange point, dunno which one tho.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:59:38am

My first 2!!

I random it. Never have a first word planned. Just try using a word w/2 vowels.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2022 • 9:59:50am

re: #413 darthstar

How many miles from Earth is it going to be when it settles? Is it inside Lunar orbit?

It’s abour 4 times the distance from the earth as the moon.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:00:17am

re: #416 Teukka

If memory serves me right, the parking lot is an Lagrange point, dunno which one tho.

L2, the one behind the earth.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:00:22am

re: #372 Rightwingconspirator

Seems to me we have seen the near future of “strategic” war and IMHO it is ballistic conventional weapons. Cities are mutually assured hostages with either hundreds of conventional missiles or handfuls of nukes. Too fast and numerous to easily defend against, certainly accurate on fixed targets and now able to strike targets that move as fleets or ships. Cities may crumble but remain inhabitable/rebuildable. Nothing is safe on the sea surface.

Well…

I think the future of warfare is the refinement of the top echelon of capital holders…who are functionally stateless but appropriate the power of states to wield violence…punching down more and more explicitly on normal people who have no choice but to revolt or war. Basically, war for kleptocrats is just another form of revenue generation, so there doesn’t need to be a fixed objective, just adoption of whatever kind of warfare permits value extraction or sustains existing holdings…including the store of intangible value such as clout and nationalist sentiment, so wars can happen basically as advertising for the efficacy of the ruling class.

The subcomponents of this doctrine are (1) people don’t really matter unless they have utility to the powerful, (2) short term revenue extraction to create liquid assets is more important than infrastructure, because the latter is dependent on a working, compliant population and that cannot be taken for granted because most people don’t matter.

The most explicit version of this would be Syria: Assad has manuevered the situation where he’s destroying the infrastructure that makes his state liveable, but the spoils are sufficient to enrich himself and provide compensation to his cadre of spoils-taker. I turn, the refugee crisis creates a crisis ripple that effects his opponents and the opponents of his arms suppliers and fellow kleptocrats…but also he’s under the umbrella of regional powers…Iran and Russia…using Syria as a proxy conflict with other regional powers. And there’s an entire class of money men…arms dealers, Panamanian bankers, dudes that just like money…that facilitate the ongoing conflict because it makes their capital holdings go up.

Future wars will looks like banana wars and proxy wars more than world-stretching conflicts, up to and including a lot of punching down. But also…there’s a kind of indirect warfare where a powerful state intervenes in a weaker state and implements a government that effectively wars on its own population to achieve material goals that primarily benefits the powerful state.

Another aspect of future warfare will be…entirely economic warfare that creates mass casualties because it destroys the logistics of nations. We’re doing that right now in Afghanistan: embargoes disproportionately harm the body politic because there’s no infrastructure, but this is not *technically* an attack. By the same token, Russia can kill Europeans by not supplying gas during winter and it’s functionally aggression while nominally not war.

Right now, the primary doctrine for this is drones, because drones are weapons that can be applied to create maximum casualties with minimum loss of valuable assets…but I think it’s also important that drones have developed a kind of rhetorical grey zone in which no one person has explicitly ordered an atrocity; atrocities occur in the liminal zone of accountability where the trigger puller was following orders and the “intel” was good but the outcome was still 100% dead babies. Basically, society is adopting a weapon that can be used for retaliatory violence and terror while also adopting a framework of validation such there’s always a sufficient threat to lob a rocket at, and at the same time unmaking the international order that can extract accountability on a state or an individual basis.

Drones are also…cheap enough to be used comparatively frivolously by wealthy countries but expensive enough to be nonviable for poor ones. They’re not a weapon you used against an equal, they’re the perfect weapon to use against someone who could put up a determined defense against conventional invasion or occupation.

The future of warfare will probably be set by the fact that if you’re a developed state you lose nothing by unmaking a less-developed states infrastructure or creating depopulation…economy of scale and worldwide logistics mean you’re still making bank if all the people flee and the cities are dust. Especially if you’re atop an explicit kleptocracy, and part of conducting warfare is taking the public money of the nation and transferring it to private confederates.

How wars are fought cannot be pried away from the larger political context of why wars are fought, and you are correct that detente through destructive parity will persist even when the platforms aren’t nuclear…but it seems like a lot of people are gearing up for wars where there is no parity.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:05:28am

re: #377 Decatur Deb

You are leaning into a thesis that Europeans are uniquely evil colonial motherfuckers. The fact is that humans are motherfuckers, and strong motherfuckers never miss the chance to prove that to weaker motherfuckers.

Okay…but Europeans did invent the form and justification structure for the modern version of being motherfuckers—including the motherfucker-ness of the Japanese, the Nazis, and (I would argue) the Stalinist Soviets—and their version of being a motherfucker resulted in the largest body count motherfuckers have achieved for a very long time, so it’s not contradictory to believe that motherfuckers are a constant of human experience and that the European model of being a motherfucker continues to jab us in out collective kidneys with a screwdriver.

Stage Four cancer is differentiable from Stage Three cancer but the former is predicated on the latter.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:06:23am

re: #388 William Lewis

Kuril Island Chain. The Japanese claim the southern 4 islands.

And southern half of Sakhalin, which the Japanese had won after Russo-Japanese war.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:06:56am

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:08:50am

re: #413 darthstar

How many miles from Earth is it going to be when it settles? Is it inside Lunar orbit?

It’s going to be some 910,000 miles out. Left the moon behind long ago.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:09:11am

re: #421 The Ghost of a Flea

Okay…but Europeans did invent the form and justification structure for the modern version of being motherfuckers—including the motherfucker-ness of the Japanese, the Nazis, and (I would argue) the Stalinist Soviets—and their version of being a motherfucker resulted in the largest body count motherfuckers have achieved for a very long time, so it’s not contradictory to believe that motherfuckers are a constant of human experience and that the European model of being a motherfucker continues to jab us in out collective kidneys with a screwdriver.

Stage Four cancer is differentiable from Stage Three cancer but the former is predicated on the latter.

I don’t think people recognize how powerful Social Darwinism was in the latter half of the 19th century.

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Orange Impostor  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:09:19am

re: #404 wrenchwench

That guy looks like he REALLY needs his coffee, and he needs it to taste just right. The woman needs a serving of pro bono.

According to one of the reports I read, he went off on the employees because he apparently forgot to tell them about his child’s peanut allergy and the smoothie had peanut butter in it. Kid had severe reaction (requiring 911 ambulance call) and he returned to the shop, which is where the video picks up. Note that the peanut allergy isn’t mentioned at all during the video as well.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:09:53am

re: #416 Teukka

If memory serves me right, the parking lot is an Lagrange point, dunno which one tho.

2

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wrenchwench  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:12:30am

re: #426 Orange Impostor

According to one of the reports I read, he went off on the employees because he apparently forgot to tell them about his child’s peanut allergy and the smoothie had peanut butter in it. Kid had severe reaction (requiring 911 ambulance call) and he returned to the shop, which is where the video picks up. Note that the peanut allergy isn’t mentioned at all during the video as well.

That explains the guy’s level of emotions, but not his decision to blame the barritas.

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jaunte  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:15:38am

re: #426 Orange Impostor

You would think if it was such a big concern for him that he’d be more careful about risking cross-contamination, and make the smoothie himself.

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William Lewis  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:16:51am
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The Squire of Logos  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:17:04am

re: #429 jaunte

You would think if it was such a big concern for him that he’d be more careful about risking cross-contamination, and make the smoothie himself.

Or, you own up to forgetting to tell them and take the heat for it. Not blame the barista.

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gocart mozart  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:18:18am
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Decatur Deb  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:18:29am

re: #421 The Ghost of a Flea

Okay…but Europeans did invent the form and justification structure for the modern version of being motherfuckers—including the motherfucker-ness of the Japanese, the Nazis, and (I would argue) the Stalinist Soviets—and their version of being a motherfucker resulted in the largest body count motherfuckers have achieved for a very long time, so it’s not contradictory to believe that motherfuckers are a constant of human experience and that the European model of being a motherfucker continues to jab us in out collective kidneys with a screwdriver.

Stage Four cancer is differentiable from Stage Three cancer but the former is predicated on the latter.

Yup. But look at the raw casualty counts in WWII—by far most of the whites were killed by whites, and vastly more non-whites were killed by non-whites. The race/colonial model doesn’t work out.

nationalww2museum.org

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darthstar  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:19:09am

re: #427 Eventual Carrion

2

There are five of them, apparently.

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Captain Magic  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:22:48am
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Dave In Austin  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:22:54am

Question.

We are sending a shit ton of anti armor weaponry to Ukraine. I’m sure Russian armor will all have reactive counter-measures attached.
Can our stuff get thru that?

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darthstar  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:24:40am

re: #436 Dave In Austin

Question.

We are sending a shit ton of anti armor weaponry to Ukraine. I’m sure Russian armor will all have reactive counter-measures attached.
Can our stuff get thru that?

Expect to see depleted uranium mentioned in the next year if shots are fired.

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jaunte  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:24:55am

re: #435 Captain Magic

“One might as well be hanged for a goat as a lamb.”

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Orange Impostor  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:25:03am

re: #429 jaunte

You would think if it was such a big concern for him that he’d be more careful about risking cross-contamination, and make the smoothie himself.

Yeah, this was my thought on this too, since even casual exposure to peanuts can trigger major reactions. I have a couple friends with the allergy, and one of them is bad enough that can’t enter a restaurant that uses peanut oil for their fried foods without an immediate respiratory event. When she eats out, and it comes to preparation, she is super-paranoid about making sure the shop knows that it literally can be life or death for her. Most of the smoothie/coffee shops who make these type drinks as a rule have a dedicated ‘no nuts’ machine to prevent this from happening.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:26:39am

re: #429 jaunte

You would think if it was such a big concern for him that he’d be more careful about risking cross-contamination, and make the smoothie himself.

Someone who has a risky allergy to peanuts does not get smoothies from local random place where they don’t know your ass. Stupid & probably a lie.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:27:29am

re: #433 Decatur Deb

Yup. But look at the raw casualty counts in WWII—by far most of the whites were killed by whites, and vastly more non-whites were killed by non-whites. The race/colonial model doesn’t work out.

nationalww2museum.org

In 1937, before the war officially began, Japanese were slaughtering Chinese and raping the women in Nanking.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:27:39am

re: #436 Dave In Austin

Question.

We are sending a shit ton of anti armor weaponry to Ukraine. I’m sure Russian armor will all have reactive counter-measures attached.
Can our stuff get thru that?

Reactive armor is somewhat self-limiting. A few hits in a small area opens it up. They were working on tandem weapons that exploit that when I lost track.

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jaunte  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:28:47am

re: #435 Captain Magic

@NCVates
We’ve reached the point where “Don’t vote for the thugs who are promising to abuse their power” is a necessary campaign argument.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:30:07am

re: #435 Captain Magic

Newt Gingrich said this morning that people serving on the J6 Committee are going to go to jail if Republicans take over Congress after the next election.

Is this before or after they lock up Obama and Hillary for their 2016 “crimes” against Trump?

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darthstar  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:33:17am

re: #435 Captain Magic

Going to jail for what?

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:35:19am
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Decatur Deb  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:37:46am

re: #441 Hecuba’s daughter

In 1937, before the war officially began, Japanese were slaughtering Chinese and raping the women in Nanking.

There is an interesting documentary on the Mukden Incident and the man who triggered it, Kanji Ishiwara. That was arguably the start of the war in the East.
en.wikipedia.org
imdb.com

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Dave In Austin  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:38:02am

re: #437 darthstar

That’s a given. Reactive armor works by a blast deflection of an incoming threat.

Russian tanks and their Explosive Reactive Armor.

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darthstar  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:44:34am

re: #448 Dave In Austin

That’s a given. Reactive armor works by a blast deflection of an incoming threat.

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Video

Interesting…explody boxes on tanks.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:46:26am

re: #428 wrenchwench

He thought he could get away with it, knowing the employees were high school kids. People like this have no control of their anger and hatred and need a victim to unleash on. He’s a bully. Immature and stupid.

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William Lewis  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:46:49am

re: #442 Decatur Deb

Reactive armor is somewhat self-limiting. A few hits in a small area opens it up. They were working on tandem weapons that exploit that when I lost track.

Tandem top attack warheads are on the Javelin now. The classic TOW-2 was moderately successful against T-90’s in Syria but had the limitation of wire guidance - got to “stay on target” until hit. Javelin has a range of 2.5 miles and is fire and forget so the gunner can scoot to the next firing position while the missile blasts down through the top of the tank. T-90 is fairly well protected against other tanks; not so much from above. It does have an anti-IR “active” protection system but the jury’s out on it yet. The autoloader’s ammo carousel is still utterly unprotected meaning almost any penetrating hit is going to detonate the ammunition.

It will come down to the training of the crews in the T-90 and the personnel firing the Javelin. The Javelin is a lot easier to operate and Russian conscripts are notoriously ill trained. My bet is on Javelin.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2022 • 10:51:46am

re: #412 Belafon

There are a whole lot of very defensive white people in the replies.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jan 23, 2022 • 11:00:38am

re: #434 darthstar

There are five of them, apparently.

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And where we really should have a long-term station with a spin for fake gravity. Send fresh crews/food/etc twice a year. Mars is for media stunts.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 23, 2022 • 11:03:28am

re: #433 Decatur Deb

Yup. But look at the raw casualty counts in WWII—by far most of the whites were killed by whites, and vastly more non-whites were killed by non-whites. The race/colonial model doesn’t work out.

nationalww2museum.org

The history of whiteness is the history of opportunistic re-assignment of categories to create outer groupings that deserve nothing and a hierarchical inner grouping of “real” people that deserve uplift relative to their caste. Across models what persists is a tier of inviolable leaders, several tiers of enforcers, the largest tier made up of laboring subjects….but this pyramid has a pale beyond which are the noncompliant, the ones without function that can be allowed to die or must be killed.

In action, European colonialism driven by racism and cultural imperialism is using the enforcers caste to push people back and forth across the pale while constructing taboos for why the enforcers cannot empathize with or find cause with the people they act upon…that’s the only real line between white and non-white, though most systems were sophisticated enough to have transitional phases so that kinds of non-whites could be pitted against one another. This occurs both on the collective and individual levels: people are kicked out of whiteness (white trash), people are given provisional whiteness but that whiteness can also be revoked (martial races). The point is not to define that barriers to clarify the shape of the world, the point is the license to set these distinctions and then change them as needed to preserve power and the capture of capital.

White is an entirely invented social category that deliberately has no firm barriers. The earliest people subject to colonial logic were the Irish, who we would now view as “white” but at the time were addressed by Britons in the same tropes and terms used for non-whites. The Irish became white when they were needed to act as enforcers on farther-flung colonial subjects, but remained a suspect kind of white.

The fact that the Germans and Japanese were racist and nationalist within their own categories does not change that they were explicitly modeling their explanatory structures for their empires citing the same pseudo-science and social philosophy as the existing empires of Europe. Fascism and colonialism are the conjoined twins of nationalism, two manifestations of the same understanding of homoousian volk with a destiny.

To the Germans, the Slavs weren’t white at all—a thing that many Western Europeans asserted with less vehemence—and the non-Germanic Europeans were…dodgy kinds of white people that needed some discipline. Their views on Jews as an ethnic other were consistent with views of Jews throughout Europe and Russia. Their plans—although a bit muddled because the NSDAP was basically a bunch of nerds with dstinct Aryan-weeb fantasies—-was colonialist because it presumed an entitlement to the labor of captured out-groups, differing only in that they “solved” the problem of assimilation by planning to eliminate subject populations entirely: beyond the pale there would only be the crematorium.

The Japanese literally argued that they were the best kind of Asian and thus had parity with white people, while other kinds of Asians were genetic inferiors that had to be administered by a superior kind…in a manner that coincidentally transferred value to the Japanese. And again…I can’t emphasize enough how explicitly the Japanese argued to an audience of European empire, in European terms, because their leadership fully accepted the premise of colonialism present on the board of the world—they literally created human zoos of other Asian peoples to contrast themselves with. All of which sounds incredibly dumb because, you know, basic “facts” of racial categories, but…again, all these categories are arbitrary and invented by the powerful to explain why their power can’t be questioned.

And this isn’t something that’s over. Interact with a wealthy Emirati and you’ll discover that they view themselves as white, and their indentured South Asian and SE Asia laborers as non-white, and view the abusive power dynamic they’ve established as justified by race and cultural superiority.

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William Lewis  Jan 23, 2022 • 11:04:10am

re: #453 Rightwingconspirator

And where we really should have a long-term station with a spin for fake gravity. Send fresh crews/food/etc twice a year. Mars is for media stunts.

Yeah, but if we get Musk to go to Mars and just _stay_ there, that’s a win-win for everyone.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 23, 2022 • 11:04:57am

re: #451 William Lewis

Tandem top attack warheads are on the Javelin now. The classic TOW-2 was moderately successful against T-90’s in Syria but had the limitation of wire guidance - got to “stay on target” until hit. Javelin has a range of 2.5 miles and is fire and forget so the gunner can scoot to the next firing position while the missile blasts down through the top of the tank. T-90 is fairly well protected against other tanks; not so much from above. It does have an anti-IR “active” protection system but the jury’s out on it yet. The autoloader’s ammo carousel is still utterly unprotected meaning almost any penetrating hit is going to detonate the ammunition.

It will come down to the training of the crews in the T-90 and the personnel firing the Javelin. The Javelin is a lot easier to operate and Russian conscripts are notoriously ill trained. My bet is on Javelin.

Picatinny had developed this in the mid-80s. The test videos looked like the hand of god suddenly appearing to smite the foe.
picryl.com

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 23, 2022 • 12:01:35pm

re: #434 darthstar

There are five of them, apparently.

[Embedded content]

Yeah, a two-body lagrange problem is solvable; just don’t add a third.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 23, 2022 • 12:05:20pm

re: #439 Orange Impostor

A refined oil has no protein, there is nothing to cause anyphylaxis. I get annoyed with this retelling that oil can cause allergic reactions, they can’t.

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Florida Panhandler  Jan 23, 2022 • 12:50:19pm

re: #435 Captain Magic

Newt Gingrich has been the very top of my “Can’t wait until he dies so I can dance on his grave” list for 30 years now.

Newt is one racist bastard that can’t catch a feverous case of ball cancer soon enough.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 24, 2022 • 6:30:39am

re: #436 Dave In Austin

Question.

We are sending a shit ton of anti armor weaponry to Ukraine. I’m sure Russian armor will all have reactive counter-measures attached.
Can our stuff get thru that?

Note: Basing reply in part on a game (Arma 3) that models various AT weapons as well as reactive countermeasures, etc.

It depends.

Reactive armor (or one of the Trophy-type anti-missile things) might prevent a warhead from getting your tank.

However, a number of missiles, including Javelins, have a optional top-down attack mode where at the last moment the missile pops up and then dives down into the top of the tank. Where there is no, or at least much less, reactive plates due to engine deck, hatches, and places the crew generally needs easy access to.

Also, there are tandem-warhead missiles. The first, smaller, warhead detonates to knock off or defeat the reactive armor plate. This leaves a gap for the second warhead to hit the primary armor.

Finally, any sort of AT can pretty much inflict a mission or mobility kill by disabling weapons, optics, or knocking off tracks, road wheels, or drive wheels.


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