The Bob Cesca Podcast: F**king Around and Finding Out

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

F**king Around And Finding Out — [Explicit Content] Spicy Jody Hamilton in ‘These Fruits Are Made for Tossin” by Rocky Mountain Mike. The latest on the Supreme Court’s Dobbs decision overturning abortion rights. Sam Alito cancels public events. A supermajority of Americans want term limits and more for the Supreme Court. Did the leak come from conservatives like Ginni Thomas? And why? Are same-sex and interracial marriage next? John Fugelsang nails it again. Third trimester abortions are rare. Bob vs Steve Schmidt. The new Madison Cawthorn tape. America surpassed 1 million COVID deaths. With Jody Hamilton and David TRex Ferguson, music by The Farleys and Jake Allen, and more!

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318 comments
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Belafon  May 5, 2022 • 7:55:00pm

I’m curious what all of you think about the laws regarding charging someone with homicide for the death of a fetus or double homicide when a pregnant woman dies.

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KingKenrod  May 5, 2022 • 8:13:19pm

This person reported that Sen. Cramer’s statement was false - but that was only based on a spokesperson’s statement later.

This reporter actually heard Cramer say it, and stands by her reporting:

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BlueSpotinAL  May 5, 2022 • 8:14:55pm

They are all bullshit - a sophist argument to “support” their unsupported claims of fetus personhood and to prevent women from using their rights they do have through fear.

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Citizen K  May 5, 2022 • 8:20:52pm

re: #2 KingKenrod

This person reported that Sen. Cramer’s statement was false - but that was only based on a spokesperson’s statement later.

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Sometimes worth not believing at face value the words of someone who is literally hired to play PR for known liars?

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Captain Ron  May 5, 2022 • 8:27:45pm
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retired cynic  May 5, 2022 • 8:28:24pm

re: #5 Dread Pirate Ron

WTF?

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Belafon  May 5, 2022 • 8:43:39pm
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EPR-radar  May 5, 2022 • 8:45:36pm

re: #7 Belafon

Oh my. Ben Garrison has competition in depicting the seething racially and sexually charged pathological resentments of the US right wing id.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 5, 2022 • 8:48:29pm

re: #2 KingKenrod

This person reported that Sen. Cramer’s statement was false - but that was only based on a spokesperson’s statement later.

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I’d feel more confident if multiple reporters confirmed hearing that statement or if there were a tape. While you cannot believe a spokesperson for a politician or a politician’s own denial, it is also possible for a reporter to mishear a statement or misinterpret it.

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Belafon  May 5, 2022 • 8:50:56pm
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retired cynic  May 5, 2022 • 8:52:34pm

re: #10 Belafon

Too bad they are so isolated in their tower that they can’t be reminded of that little episode in free speech.

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Belafon  May 5, 2022 • 8:53:46pm

re: #7 Belafon

Here’s the original:

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Belafon  May 5, 2022 • 8:54:32pm

re: #12 Belafon

Notice that, on the right, they edited and flipped her mouth.

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retired cynic  May 5, 2022 • 8:55:25pm

re: #12 Belafon

Here’s the original:

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Changed some skin tones around, too.

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jaunte  May 5, 2022 • 8:57:36pm

re: #12 Belafon

Since James O’Keefe’s yachting days, Republicans adding dildos to unremarkable situations is known as the Veritas Effect.

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EPR-radar  May 5, 2022 • 8:57:37pm

re: #13 Belafon

Notice that, on the right, they edited and flipped her mouth.

They also added three kids on the left and gave one of them the Bible.

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Belafon  May 5, 2022 • 9:01:05pm
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EPR-radar  May 5, 2022 • 9:08:21pm

re: #17 Belafon

AKA “The only 9th amendment unenumerated rights in the US are things rich white 18th century property owning men (including slave owners) would recognize as rights.”

That’s the full dogshit of judicial Originalism, right there in Alito’s shit-draft.

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retired cynic  May 5, 2022 • 9:09:05pm

re: #18 EPR-radar

Pretty good summary.

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EPR-radar  May 5, 2022 • 9:10:24pm

re: #19 retired cynic

Pretty good summary.

Believe it or not, I actually do try to moderate my language. But it is impossible to talk about motherfucking Republicans without the salty language.

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retired cynic  May 5, 2022 • 9:11:41pm

re: #20 EPR-radar

Believe it or not, I actually do try to moderate my language. But it is impossible to talk about motherfucking Republicans without the salty language.

They earned it. You dealt it.

Sounds good to me.

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Targetpractice  May 5, 2022 • 9:12:10pm

re: #1 Belafon

I’m curious what all of you think about the laws regarding charging someone with homicide for the death of a fetus or double homicide when a pregnant woman dies.

I think it’s a massive can of worms that they’re ultimately going to regret opening. The amount of time and energy they’re going to have to spend carving out exceptions for everything they want to protect from the inevitable efforts to hold accountable for everything from miscarriages to accidental death is going to far outweigh whatever little glee they feel in establishing “personhood.”

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Targetpractice  May 5, 2022 • 9:12:49pm

re: #20 EPR-radar

Believe it or not, I actually do try to moderate my language. But it is impossible to talk about motherfucking Republicans without the salty language.

Fuck’ A!

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jaunte  May 5, 2022 • 9:16:26pm
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sagehen  May 5, 2022 • 9:17:21pm

re: #18 EPR-radar

AKA “The only 9th amendment unenumerated rights in the US are things rich white 18th century property owning men (including slave owners) would recognize as rights.”

That’s the full dogshit of judicial Originalism, right there in Alito’s shit-draft.

The rich white Christian 18th century property owning men might choose to grant the rest of us occasional privileges. Or they might burn us at the stake, Either way if okay by Alito.

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EPR-radar  May 5, 2022 • 9:19:30pm

re: #22 Targetpractice

I think it’s a massive can of worms that they’re ultimately going to regret opening. The amount of time and energy they’re going to have to spend carving out exceptions for everything they want to protect from the inevitable efforts to hold accountable for everything from miscarriages to accidental death is going to far outweigh whatever little glee they feel in establishing “personhood.”

Or they just say “fuck it, let’s go live” and have right wing courts and right wing law enforcement do selective enforcement of shit like this to punish the oppressed and privilege the oppressors, just like the holy trinity of Jesus, FetusInAJar and Donald Trump intended.

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No Malarkey!  May 5, 2022 • 9:20:54pm

re: #17 Belafon

Alito would say that the fact that we decided not to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment demonstrates that we don’t want women to have equal rights protected by the Constitution, with the sole exception of the right to vote.

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retired cynic  May 5, 2022 • 9:22:05pm

re: #27 No Malarkey!

Alito would say that the fact that we decided not to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment demonstrates that we don’t want women to have equal rights protected by the Constitution, with the sole exception of the right to vote.

Surely he can think of an equally dumb reason to rule out women’s right to vote. The amendment was fatally flawed, after all.

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Targetpractice  May 5, 2022 • 9:25:50pm

re: #26 EPR-radar

Or they just say “fuck it, let’s go live” and have right wing courts and right wing law enforcement do the selective enforcement of shit like this to punish the oppressed and privilege the oppressors, just like the holy trinity of Jesus, FetusInAJar and Donald Trump intended.

It’s going to end up being a battle between the two wings of the party, because while the Trumpers would just want to write a one line “Any acts that lead to the death of an unborn baby shall be illegal!!!,” the corporate wing is not gonna want their buddies breaking down their doors because of the wide latitude that’s gonna give prosecutors to go after…well…everyone.

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EPR-radar  May 5, 2022 • 9:29:57pm

re: #27 No Malarkey!

Alito would say that the fact that we decided not to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment demonstrates that we don’t want women to have equal rights protected by the Constitution, with the sole exception of the right to vote.

Originalism is so handy. Even a 5th grader can do it.

1) decide the case.

2) pretend that some prior authority agrees with you.

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jaunte  May 5, 2022 • 9:35:37pm

re: #30 EPR-radar

In extreme cases,
3. Tell them God told you what everyone must do, on pain of present and eternal death.

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wrenchwench  May 5, 2022 • 9:37:59pm

re: #23 Targetpractice

Fuck’ A!

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Belafon  May 5, 2022 • 9:39:39pm

re: #30 EPR-radar

Originalism is so handy. Even a 5th grader can do it.

1) decide the case.

2) pretend that some prior authority agrees with you.

Like how they operate Christianity.

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ckkatz  May 5, 2022 • 9:42:06pm
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BeachDem  May 5, 2022 • 9:42:12pm

re: #26 EPR-radar

Or they just say “fuck it, let’s go live” and have right wing courts and right wing law enforcement do the selective enforcement of shit like this to punish the oppressed and privilege the oppressors, just like the holy trinity of Jesus, FetusInAJar and Donald Trump intended.

I know I’ve posted this before, but seems appropriate here and now.

From 20fucking12.

“At least 38 states have introduced fetal homicide laws that were intended to be used against violent attacks by third parties like abusive male partners. But in South Carolina, only one case has been brought against a man for assaulting a pregnant woman, while up to 300 women have been arrested under the law, according to the National Advocates for Pregnant Women.”

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EPR-radar  May 5, 2022 • 9:42:14pm

re: #32 wrenchwench

I feel her pain. I’m incredibly sheltered in terms of actually having to deal with Republicans. The only one I know of in my personal life does part time work at a business I’m a partner in, and there is an agreement all around on no political discussions on the job (if in mixed political company). That plus the balance of power being in my favor keeps things civilized.

On the other hand Sen. Hirono has 50 Republican “colleagues” who basically want her dead just because she isn’t a wingnut.

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Targetpractice  May 5, 2022 • 9:43:24pm

Think about it this way: You’re the CEO of a chemical company that supplies (among other things) a lot of chemicals used in household cleaning products that are in houses across the nation. Then a state government announces they’re gonna pass a “personhood” law that makes even contributing to the death of a “baby” an unlawful act. Well, you know that several products you’re involved in the making of that have been shown in your test labs to increase chances of miscarriage in pregnant women.

You don’t think they’re gonna have their lobbyists visiting the offices of every “holier-than-thou” Bible-thumper in that state government, whispering in their ear to exempt chemical companies from that new law?

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EPR-radar  May 5, 2022 • 9:45:30pm

re: #35 BeachDem

I know I’ve posted this before, but seems appropriate here and now.

From 20fucking12.

“At least 38 states have introduced fetal homicide laws that were intended to be used against violent attacks by third parties like abusive male partners. But in South Carolina, only one case has been brought against a man for assaulting a pregnant woman, while up to 300 women have been arrested under the law, according to the National Advocates for Pregnant Women.”

That bolded part is GOP lies. Perhaps some centrist naifs were taken in by this crap, but realistically the US justice system is already capable of being punitive vs. people that assault pregnant women (or worse). Being punitive is the only thing the system is good at.

So we have a wingnut ‘solution’ to a non-problem. Of course it’s only going to be used against women.

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Targetpractice  May 5, 2022 • 9:45:44pm

re: #34 ckkatz

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They’re thinking too small. It’s going to start with “stopping pregnant women from seeking abortions out-of-state,” it’s going to end with “stopping the free movement of women, period.”

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EPR-radar  May 5, 2022 • 9:47:11pm

re: #37 Targetpractice

Think about it this way: You’re the CEO of a chemical company that supplies (among other things) a lot of chemicals used in household cleaning products that are in houses across the nation. Then a state government announces they’re gonna pass a “personhood” law that makes even contributing to the death of a “baby” an unlawful act. Well, you know that several products you’re involved in the making of that have been shown in your test labs to increase chances of miscarriage in pregnant women.

You don’t think they’re gonna have their lobbyists visiting the offices of every “holier-than-thou” Bible-thumper in that state government, whispering in their ear to exempt chemical companies from that new law?

That’s a solid point. Corporate Legal is never going to be satisfied with implicit promises that enforcement of this shit will only hit “undesirables”.

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ckkatz  May 5, 2022 • 9:47:49pm
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ckkatz  May 5, 2022 • 9:48:38pm
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Targetpractice  May 5, 2022 • 9:50:19pm

re: #40 EPR-radar

That’s a solid point. Corporate Legal is never going to be satisfied with implicit promises that enforcement of this shit will only hit “undesirables”.

The far-right has insisted for decades that the 2A is an absolute right and the only persons responsible for gun crimes are the people holding the gun, yet gun companies spend billions annually lobbying lawmakers and paying lawyers to write new laws and twist existing ones respectively in order to avoid their entire industry collapsing under the payouts that a single successful liability lawsuit would bring.

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ckkatz  May 5, 2022 • 9:50:58pm

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Targetpractice  May 5, 2022 • 9:51:58pm

re: #41 ckkatz

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The whole “Susan is an idiot” reputation stems more from her habit of getting snookered again and again into voting for one bill on the promise that a bill she really wants will come to a vote.

But her anti-choice votes? No, she’s not an idiot, she knows exactly what she’s doing.

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Targetpractice  May 5, 2022 • 9:53:56pm

re: #44 ckkatz

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Yeah, I heard the same things about Win95 and Vista.

And then the murders began…er, the bugs popped up.

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Belafon  May 5, 2022 • 9:57:59pm

re: #46 Targetpractice

Yeah, I heard the same things about Win95 and Vista.

And then the murders began…er, the bugs popped up.

Windows 11 is kind of an incremental upgrade from 10, not really a big change like 95 or Vista were.

But also, 3.1 wasn’t exactly free of issues.

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ckkatz  May 5, 2022 • 9:58:23pm

re: #46 Targetpractice

Yeah, I heard the same things about Win95 and Vista.

And then the murders began…er, the bugs popped up.

If I recall correctly back to that distant time and place, Vista seemed to me to actually be the first of the Windows series that actually worked acceptably well.

Windows 7 was, for me the first windows series that I did not feel I had to reboot on a daily or sooner basis to not have it lock up or crash.

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EPR-radar  May 5, 2022 • 9:58:42pm

re: #43 Targetpractice

The far-right has insisted for decades that the 2A is an absolute right and the only persons responsible for gun crimes are the people holding the gun, yet gun companies spend billions annually lobbying lawmakers and paying lawyers to write new laws and twist existing ones respectively in order to avoid their entire industry collapsing under the payouts that a single successful liability lawsuit would bring.

Big Tobacco was untouchable for decades, until it wasn’t. May the same happen for the gun makers. Their contributions to the GOP cesspit of treason should not go unrewarded. Piercing the corporate veil to seize all ill-gotten gains from all past and present senior executives, and from their estates, would be an appropriate way to celebrate that blessed day.

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EPR-radar  May 5, 2022 • 10:01:42pm

re: #45 Targetpractice

The whole “Susan is an idiot” reputation stems more from her habit of getting snookered again and again into voting for one bill on the promise that a bill she really wants will come to a vote.

But her anti-choice votes? No, she’s not an idiot, she knows exactly what she’s doing.

Cue up the “Corporate wants you to find the difference between these two pictures” meme. It’s exactly the same thing.

All of this play acting, both on abortion and on other issues, is a game to make Collins, the enabler of GOP extremists, look ‘moderate’ to the meatheads of Maine.

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ckkatz  May 5, 2022 • 10:01:53pm

re: #45 Targetpractice

The whole “Susan is an idiot” reputation stems more from her habit of getting snookered again and again into voting for one bill on the promise that a bill she really wants will come to a vote.

But her anti-choice votes? No, she’s not an idiot, she knows exactly what she’s doing.

I guess that I have never felt that Collins (or Murkowski) was stupid, or snookered in any way. I have always assumed that she knew exactly what she was doing and why. And that she was quite happy to lie continually if it suited her goals.

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Targetpractice  May 5, 2022 • 10:03:34pm

re: #48 ckkatz

If I recall correctly back to that distant time and place, Vista seemed to me to actually be the first of the Windows series that actually worked acceptably well.

Windows 7 was, for me the first windows series that I did not feel I had to reboot on a daily or sooner basis to not have it lock up or crash.

Realistically, the Win95 and Vista suffered from the same issues, namely not wanting to play nice with a lot of legacy programs and having poor driver support. The former suffered more because those were the days when you still had to tweak settings on everything just to run a single program, while the latter suffered from Microsoft not really giving software and hardware companies enough time and info to properly support it right out of the box. Both matured into decent OSes, it’s just by the time they got there, the damage to their reputations had already been done.

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ckkatz  May 5, 2022 • 10:05:56pm

re: #42 ckkatz

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jaunte  May 5, 2022 • 10:05:56pm
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Targetpractice  May 5, 2022 • 10:09:48pm

re: #53 ckkatz

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These days, visits to even the Kroger pharmacy to buy cough syrup requires me to pick up a little card with a bar code to take to wait in line, then fork over my ID at the counter so that the barcode on the back can be scanned into their system to log my purchase for tracking purposes.

Contraceptives and pregnancy tests will face the same treatment and for the same reason: “We need to keep track of this information to make sure people aren’t doing anything…unlawful.”

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ckkatz  May 5, 2022 • 10:14:16pm

re: #52 Targetpractice

Heh, our discussion reminded me of this -

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Targetpractice  May 5, 2022 • 10:15:12pm

re: #56 ckkatz

Heh, our discussion reminded me of this -

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Our discussion caused me to look up this little gem from those early days of Vista hate:

Youtube Video

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Belafon  May 5, 2022 • 10:17:25pm

I hadn’t realized that Elon had been that busy:

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ckkatz  May 5, 2022 • 10:20:29pm

re: #57 Targetpractice

Our discussion caused me to look up this little gem from those early days of Vista hate:

Hah!

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Belafon  May 5, 2022 • 10:23:16pm
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Hecuba's daughter  May 5, 2022 • 10:23:28pm

Wordle!

My normal 4…

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ckkatz  May 5, 2022 • 10:25:07pm

re: #42 ckkatz

This famous marketing story:

Every time you go shopping, you share intimate details about your consumption patterns with retailers. And many of those retailers are studying those details to figure out what you like, what you need, and which coupons are most likely to make you happy. Target , for example, has figured out how to data-mine its way into your womb, to figure out whether you have a baby on the way long before you need to start buying diapers.
*snip*

How Target Figured Out A Teen Girl Was Pregnant Before Her Father Did
forbes.com

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Belafon  May 5, 2022 • 10:25:41pm

Does anyone else remember that the Windows 95 cd came with a Weezer song:

Youtube Video

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wrenchwench  May 5, 2022 • 10:27:13pm
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William Lewis  May 5, 2022 • 10:29:17pm

re: #56 ckkatz

Heh. That makes me remember running Minix on an IBM XT (With a 5.25” Full Height 10 megabyte MFM boat anchor hard drive, the WHOLE 640kb ram and a Herc graphics card) from a pawn shop before Linus even started Linux. No memory protection so if a process took memory from another process - SPLAT! and 75% of the time sufficient file system damage to require reinstalling the OS because FSCK was even more useless than usual in Minix.

Ah, good times.

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wrenchwench  May 5, 2022 • 10:34:00pm
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Targetpractice  May 5, 2022 • 10:35:53pm

re: #66 wrenchwench

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I’ve thought on occasion of trying to start a garden in my backyard again…then I remember that I’m allergic to manual labor.

/

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ckkatz  May 5, 2022 • 10:36:43pm

re: #63 Belafon

I wonder if it also came on the Win 95 configured computers.

You’ve reminded me of the Windows Waltz:

Funny! Orchestra plays Microsoft Windows™ - the waltz

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ckkatz  May 5, 2022 • 10:44:35pm

re: #65 William Lewis

Heh. That makes me remember running Minix on an IBM XT (With a 5.25” Full Height 10 megabyte MFM boat anchor hard drive, the WHOLE 640kb ram and a Herc graphics card) from a pawn shop before Linus even started Linux. No memory protection so if a process took memory from another process - SPLAT! and 75% of the time sufficient file system damage to require reinstalling the OS because FSCK was even more useless than usual in Minix.

Ah, good times.

Iirc, that IBM PC-XT system new was almost $5k when it first came out back in the early 1980’s. ANd on the Windows/DOS side about all it could be used for was low grade word processing and the spreadsheet application (?Lotus 123?). The business school folks in particular really jumped at the spreadsheet.

I really did not have a chance to play with any unix style downloads onto a pc until much later. Sounds like you were much more cutting edge than I was.

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ckkatz  May 5, 2022 • 10:49:22pm

Well Cinco De Mayo is not the same without Cielito Lindo. And if you are going to listen to Cielito Lindo, it’s hard to go wrong with Mariachi Vargas.

Youtube Video

Cielito Lindo Wiki
en.wikipedia.org

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wrenchwench  May 5, 2022 • 10:52:39pm

I tried like hell to buy two flip phones today. Part of why I hate change is I’m no good at it. Three ‘chats’ on the website got cut off. My third visit to the brick and mortar franchise outlet was the least helpful. The online sales people are competitors with the in-store people. Takes more time to sell a flip phone, for a much smaller commission, so incentive is lacking.

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William Lewis  May 5, 2022 • 10:53:23pm

re: #69 ckkatz

Iirc, that IBM PC-XT system new was almost $5k when it first came out back in the early 1980’s. ANd on the Windows/DOS side about all it could be used for was low grade word processing and the spreadsheet application (?Lotus 123?). The business school folks in particular really jumped at the spreadsheet.

I really did not have a chance to play with any unix style downloads onto a pc until much later. Sounds like you were much more cutting edge than I was.

Didn’t seem like it at the time but looking back? I can’t remember how much I had to cough up for that XT at the pawn but it had to be cheap. Yeah. I got enough knowledge to get a part time job helping a SCO Xenix integrator install systems while flunking out of Tech School (did get to learn BSD there and did COBAL (ugh) on an ATT 3B1) That in turn got me enough technobabble to get into a position with the State of Wisconsin running a Real Unix system on Data General and Sun hardware.

So here I am now, loving Unixen in a Windog world.

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Targetpractice  May 5, 2022 • 11:02:33pm

I’m still so “new” to the computer experience compared to folks I know, that to me finding out the “infinite money” cheat in the original SimCity when it first came out was an amazing experience…right up until you found out that the programmers wrote in a punishment if you used it too much/often.

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ckkatz  May 5, 2022 • 11:07:30pm

re: #72 William Lewis

Didn’t seem like it at the time but looking back? I can’t remember how much I had to cough up for that XT at the pawn but it had to be cheap. Yeah. I got enough knowledge to get a part time job helping a SCO Xenix integrator install systems while flunking out of Tech School (did get to learn BSD there and did COBAL (ugh) on an ATT 3B1) That in turn got me enough technobabble to get into a position with the State of Wisconsin running a Real Unix system on Data General and Sun hardware.

So here I am now, loving Unixen in a Windog world.

I remember SCO Xenix as being reasonably solid on the pc. Which I found, after using windows, quite surprising. Never was able to get into it much as I wanted, though.

I worked at a bank about 25 years ago. And they were still using COBOL. All of the banking systems had been written in COBOL 30-40 years before. The systems had been tested and validated for many years. And had not changed much since then. IBM had a huge team of consultants to support the systems. And was still upgrading and modernizing hardware.

Like you, I preferred the Unix world far better.

Prior to the banking gig I worked for GTE Telenet, developing security applications for their data network. I worked there through the renaming as Sprint. Then we got sold to a French company and went bankrupt.

After the banking gig, I went to a job with General Dynamics. (Motto: We may not be specifically so; But we are generally dynamic.) We used pc systems and windows networking.

Around this time there was a lot of Linux companies opening local DC offices to support govt contracts. I knew some Red Hat folks, but the work they were doing did not really interest me.

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ckkatz  May 5, 2022 • 11:13:33pm

One last interesting factoid. Then I need to head to bed:

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wrenchwench  May 5, 2022 • 11:18:15pm

re: #70 ckkatz

Well Cinco De Mayo is not the same without Cielito Lindo. And if you are going to listen to Cielito Lindo, it’s hard to go wrong with Mariachi Vargas.

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Video

Cielito Lindo Wiki
en.wikipedia.org

You sent me down a rabbit hole that ended up in a carport somewhere where the license plates are big (but I still can’t read it) and a concert by a mariachi band called Cielito Lindo for a cumpleañera.

Youtube Video

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Captain Ron  May 5, 2022 • 11:34:42pm

Canada: Living the American Dream without the violence since 1867.

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Teukka  May 6, 2022 • 12:39:02am
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Targetpractice  May 6, 2022 • 1:05:00am

re: #78 Teukka

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Man, it’s embarrassing when your navy just suddenly “loses” a whole sailor. Might want to look into that…

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EPR-radar  May 6, 2022 • 1:15:43am

re: #78 Teukka

I’d feel pity for the Russian navy officers that were required to participate in this farce, but then I remember they are complicit in war crimes.

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wrenchwench  May 6, 2022 • 1:16:04am

Another hard earned 4 that I was happy to get, but they’re creeping up on my 3s.

Click to Reveal

Wordle 321 4/6

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⬜🟧🟦⬜⬜
⬜🟧⬜🟧⬜
🟧🟧🟧🟧🟧

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 6, 2022 • 1:38:37am

re: #81 wrenchwench

Got it in 3 today but, man, I’ve been pushing a lot of 5s of late - and more 6s than ever before.

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Teukka  May 6, 2022 • 2:54:45am

If this happens, I predict significant blowback for the 🇿 thugs…

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Patricia Kayden  May 6, 2022 • 2:54:46am
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Teukka  May 6, 2022 • 3:02:42am

I really hope that the first thing that came to mind when I saw this story isn’t one of the things he’ll say…

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Teukka  May 6, 2022 • 3:22:49am
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William Lewis  May 6, 2022 • 3:42:08am

re: #77 Dread Pirate Ron

Canada: Living the American Dream without the violence since 1867.

Just don’t mention the various anti-first peoples’ wars or the anti-Metis wars and certainly don’t remember the residential schools that were just as genocidal as the American ones.

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William Lewis  May 6, 2022 • 3:44:18am

No confirmation yet but here’s hoping!

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Teukka  May 6, 2022 • 3:49:36am

It’s way too early in the day for this shit…

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Dopamine Fish  May 6, 2022 • 4:09:51am

Given the guesses I had gone through, and the letters I hadn’t eliminated yet, I feel lucky to get this one in 4. Definitely starting to balance the distribution between 3’s and 4’s, though.

Click to Reveal

Wordle 321 4/6

⬛⬛🟨⬛🟩
⬛🟩⬛⬛🟩
⬛🟩⬛⬛🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 6, 2022 • 4:12:24am

re: #7 Belafon

This is a repurposed image — the original, which I can’t find a copy of — does both images as being a complete woman. No cat, no dildo. More right-whinger bullshit.

ETA - read a little further and I see Belafon has also posted the original.

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Patricia Kayden  May 6, 2022 • 4:35:30am
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Patricia Kayden  May 6, 2022 • 4:38:53am
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No Malarkey!  May 6, 2022 • 4:43:16am

re: #93 Patricia Kayden

He should be. I’m confident that this year a red state will enact a test ban of same sex marriage.

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Dopamine Fish  May 6, 2022 • 4:53:40am
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Shropshire Slasher  May 6, 2022 • 4:53:42am

Recognize anyone famous!?

Youtube Video

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 6, 2022 • 4:59:09am

re: #7 Belafon

Please tell me this is a parody of RW attitudes about women and their choices.

Sorry, wrong country, wrong decade, I guess.

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Florida Panhandler  May 6, 2022 • 5:03:23am

re: #10 Belafon

Same SCOTUS elites that still to this day forbid firearms in their facilities yet foists nutcases on the rest of us who are regularly armed with weapons of war.

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Belafon  May 6, 2022 • 5:04:07am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 6, 2022 • 5:04:44am

re: #37 Targetpractice

Think about it this way: You’re the CEO of a chemical company that supplies (among other things) a lot of chemicals used in household cleaning products that are in houses across the nation. Then a state government announces they’re gonna pass a “personhood” law that makes even contributing to the death of a “baby” an unlawful act.

Don’t worry too much if you are a CEO, for chrissakes, laws like those are only to further control and chastise bad women who dot fully accept the grace of God’s gift of pregnancy (even if it is the product of rape or incest)

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Decatur Deb  May 6, 2022 • 5:06:00am

re: #89 Teukka

It’s way too early in the day for this shit…

Nazism was wildly anti-Slavic and anti-Russian, though. Their treatment in propaganda images was just vastly overshadowed by images of the Jews. Then there’s Mein Kampf’s plans for “the East”.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 6, 2022 • 5:07:53am

Lucky Charms also had issues as well. I hope our food supply is safe.

Desperate parents across the United States are struggling to get their hands on baby formula amid a nationwide shortage as major national retailers have enforced rationing and one website charged up to $800 for the precious tins following a recall on popular products after an infant died of an infection.

In the week ending April 24, CBS News reports, 40 to 50 percent of the top-selling baby formula products were out of stock at stores across the country, according to an analysis from Datasembly, which tracked baby formula stock at more than 11,000 retailers.

National out-of-stock levels jumped nine percentage points from 31 percent to 40 percent between April 3 and April 24, according to an analysis from Datasembly.

It only got worse in February, when Abbott Labs first announced a recall of certain Alimentum, Similac and EleCare formulas after five infants who used the formula contracted a Cronobacter sakazakii infection, which can cause severe blood infections and meningitis. One of the infants died as a result.

dailymail.co.uk

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 6, 2022 • 5:09:32am

re: #66 wrenchwench

I need to learn to make corn tortillas. They are nearly impossible to find in Germany (flour tortillas, on the other hand, no problem, just go to the Turkish supermarket)

A buddy recently brought some over from Finland (where you can get them in most supermarkets) and we used them to make green chili/chicken enchiladas for Cinco de Mayo.

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darthstar  May 6, 2022 • 5:12:16am

re: #96 Shropshire Slasher

Recognize anyone famous!?

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Video

Is that a young Bruce Willis in the second row?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 6, 2022 • 5:14:29am

re: #101 Decatur Deb

Nazism was wildly anti-Slavic and anti-Russian, though. Their treatment in propaganda images was just vastly overshadowed by images of the Jews. Then there’s Mein Kampf’s plans for “the East”.

And of course, Marxism (like Freudianism, Capitalism and Realitivity) was a “Jewish disease” foisted on humanity which needed to be eradicated. The Germans especially had it out for Jewish Commissars on the Eastern Front

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Decatur Deb  May 6, 2022 • 5:14:46am

Decades ago there was a tremendously detailed website from the Federation of American Scientists. It was focused on National Security/Department of Defense issues. It included a large section on Agricultural Defense programs like Daedalus. Someone was thinking way ahead.

(Think they might have morphed into globalsecurity.com.)

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darthstar  May 6, 2022 • 5:15:44am

re: #104 darthstar

I’ve been playing too much wordle. I saw ‘someone famous’ and said the first actor that came to mind without looking at the video. Then I looked and didn’t notice anyone in the first 30 seconds.

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mmmirele  May 6, 2022 • 5:16:09am

I got paged in at 4:52 am (or eight minutes before the end of my on-call shift) for an incident that was not on call page worthy. Of course now I am awake…dammit.

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William Lewis  May 6, 2022 • 5:16:23am

re: #96 Shropshire Slasher

Recognize anyone famous!?

[Embedded content]

Video

No I don’t. I had forgotten how hideous that dreck was though.

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lawhawk  May 6, 2022 • 5:16:58am

re: #84 Patricia Kayden

Not these babies…

Those babies. *Those* babies. Separating *those* babies was more than expected and required. These babies are not included.

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William Lewis  May 6, 2022 • 5:18:15am

re: #97 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Please tell me this is a parody of RW attitudes about women and their choices.

Sorry, wrong country, wrong decade, I guess.

She aided and abetted the GOP efforts to destroy America as Ronnie RayGun’s speech writer - why expect any better of her now?

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Belafon  May 6, 2022 • 5:18:23am
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Shropshire Slasher  May 6, 2022 • 5:18:28am

re: #109 William Lewis

No I don’t. I had forgotten how hideous that dreck was though.

Sheryl Crow wasn’t very proud of that either.

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Decatur Deb  May 6, 2022 • 5:22:32am

re: #112 Belafon

“It’s absolutely staggering what has happened with this pandemic, including our inability to accurately monitor it,” one epidemiologist said. “It shouldn’t happen in the 21st century.”

Don’t remember an earlier plague where a good portion of the Human targets deliberately went over to the Bug side.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  May 6, 2022 • 5:22:39am

re: #53 ckkatz

(Late because my internet connection went down for a bit…)

There’s this thing called cash. Accepted almost everywhere and leaves no traces. Get into the habit of paying for stuff in cash regularly, so the home pregnancy test and the menstrual supplies don’t show up.

Oh, and don’t buy alcohol on a card, no matter how good the deal looks. If anything happens to you on the premises, the company can use it as evidence of your diminished mental capacity, and other companies can subpoena it.

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Decatur Deb  May 6, 2022 • 5:24:52am

re: #115 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

This could be the year burner phones become the hot graduation gift.

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Ming5000  May 6, 2022 • 5:25:02am

The ruble is stronger now, exchange rate wise, than before the war. Putin’s finance people achieved what they hoped to do.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 6, 2022 • 5:27:51am

re: #112 Belafon

“It’s absolutely staggering what has happened with this pandemic, including our inability to accurately monitor it,” one epidemiologist said. “It shouldn’t happen in the 21st century.”

With statements like “It’s a Democrat hoax!” and “I like the number where they are!” TFG was telegraphing to local GOP officials that he did not want figures to be accurately or closely monitored, he wanted the numbers tweaked in his favor.

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Ming5000  May 6, 2022 • 5:28:38am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 6, 2022 • 5:28:45am

re: #115 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Oh, and don’t buy alcohol on a card, no matter how good the deal looks. If anything happens to you on the premises, the company can use it as evidence of your diminished mental capacity, and other companies can subpoena it.

Now there’s something I never thought about.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 6, 2022 • 5:31:21am

re: #117 Ming5000

The ruble is stronger now, exchange rate wise, than before the war. Putin’s finance people achieved what they hoped to do.

But can we call it the same currency? Are there not still restrictions on trading it?

The USSR had that as well: there were currency and non-currency rubles, which had the same nominal value but were non-convertible, even with each other.

Non-currency rubles were simply how (state-owned) firms recorded their transactions with other (state-owned) firms. Company could not simply cash them out, they belonged to the state.

And in order to be able to convert Rubles to dollars, you had to obtain a license for a particular amount.

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Ming5000  May 6, 2022 • 5:32:33am

re: #121 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

No. Yes.

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Decatur Deb  May 6, 2022 • 5:33:16am

re: #120 Eclectic Cyborg

Now there’s something I never thought about.

Your car is collecting tons of data that can bring you to grief. Welcome to TIA.

en.wikipedia.org

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 6, 2022 • 5:34:15am

re: #115 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

(Late because my internet connection went down for a bit…)

There’s this thing called cash. Accepted almost everywhere and leaves no traces. Get into the habit of paying for stuff in cash regularly.

Germans love cash transactions and vehemently oppose any plans to switch to electronic currency. For that, 50 and even 100-euro notes are not uncommon in circulation.

I am happy with that: a lot of my income comes from tips and musical gigs, which keeps it off the books entirely.

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darthstar  May 6, 2022 • 5:37:46am
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Patricia Kayden  May 6, 2022 • 5:38:58am

re: #117 Ming5000

The ruble is stronger now, exchange rate wise, than before the war. Putin’s finance people achieved what they hoped to do.

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I’ve been wondering how Russia is able to finance a war despite sanctions. Looks like they’re not suffering nearly enough to force them to retreat. What a shame.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 6, 2022 • 5:41:20am

re: #126 Patricia Kayden

I’ve been wondering how Russia is able to finance a war despite sanctions. Looks like they’re not suffering nearly enough to force them to retreat. What a shame.

They still make a lot of money selling gas and oil (and other natural resources) to the West and other nations.

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Decatur Deb  May 6, 2022 • 5:43:05am

Another side of Ukrainians— This instrument (a bit like a theorbo) almost disappeared, and seems to be maintained as a family tradition. This girl is one of the few who still study it, and her father and brother might be the only people who can make one. It is used mainly in folk music, but she intends to bring it back into classical.

Youtube Video

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darthstar  May 6, 2022 • 5:43:32am

re: #88 William Lewis

No confirmation yet but here’s hoping!

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Heat maps are your friend.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 6, 2022 • 5:45:00am

re: #129 darthstar

Heat maps are your friend.

dailymail.co.uk

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 6, 2022 • 5:45:36am

re: #128 Decatur Deb

Another side of Ukrainians— This instrument (a bit like a theorbo) almost disappeared, and seems to be maintained as a family tradition. This girl is one of the few who still study it, and her father and brother might be the only people who can make one. It is used mainly in folk music, but she intends to bring it back into classical.

Stalin summoned the Ukrainian bards to Moscow in the 1930’s - supposedly for a conference on Ukrainian Folk Culture - and had them all summarily executed.

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Dopamine Fish  May 6, 2022 • 5:46:55am

re: #129 darthstar

re: #119 Ming5000

I think, given the fog of war, it’s probably safest to wait until there are photos/videos that can be verified, or until the Russians come out and say, “There was a ‘tragic accident’ aboard our cruiser and we are withdrawing it to Sevastopol for repairs.”

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lawhawk  May 6, 2022 • 5:47:51am

Ivan, you’ve lost another one?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 6, 2022 • 5:48:53am

“There seems to be something wrong with our bloody ships today!”

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Hecuba's daughter  May 6, 2022 • 5:49:08am

Last week Monday a friend and I exchanged emails— she was spooked about the possibility of our group resuming in person dinners because a friend of hers hosted a seder and 7 who attended came down with COVID. Yesterday, I was walking with another friend who relayed a similar story: her cousin had hosted a large seder and everyone present (but one) came down with COVID. In all cases, the persons involved were vaccinated and boosted (at least the first booster); the illnesses seemed to be mild.

My sister and I are just hoping that the large Mother’s Day gathering we are hosting Sunday will not experience the same fate.

The CDC is officially expecting an uptick in hospitalizations and deaths over the next couple weeks: 6abc.com

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darthstar  May 6, 2022 • 5:49:33am

re: #130 Shropshire Slasher

dailymail.co.uk

re: #132 Dopamine Fish

I think, given the fog of war, it’s probably safest to wait until there are photos/videos that can be verified, or until the Russians come out and say, “There was a ‘tragic accident’ aboard our cruiser and we are withdrawing it to Sevastopol for repairs.”

All I’m saying is I wouldn’t want to be a Russian boat floating around near Snake Island in the Black Sea…snake bites can be fatal.

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sagehen  May 6, 2022 • 5:50:46am

jobs report

428,000 new jobs
unemployment rate still 3.6%

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darthstar  May 6, 2022 • 5:52:58am

I googled - the SPK is a self propelled floating crane. Gotta offload any usable ordnance while they can.

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darthstar  May 6, 2022 • 5:53:35am

re: #137 sagehen

jobs report

428,000 new jews
unemployment rate still 3.6%

La chaim! - shit…I meant mazel tov.

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No Malarkey!  May 6, 2022 • 5:54:04am

re: #137 sagehen

jobs report

428,000 new jews
unemployment rate still 3.6%

The economy has created over 400,000 jobs every single month for the last year. But the plurality of people think the economy has lost jobs.

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Decatur Deb  May 6, 2022 • 5:54:43am

re: #135 Hecuba’s daughter

Last week Monday a friend and I exchanged emails— she was spooked about the possibility of our group resuming in person dinners because a friend of hers hosted a seder and 7 who attended came down with COVID. Yesterday, I was walking with another friend who relayed a similar story: her cousin had hosted a large seder and everyone present (but one) came down with COVID. In all cases, the persons involved were vaccinated and boosted (at least the first booster); the illnesses seemed to be mild.

My sister and I are just hoping that the large Mother’s Day gathering we are hosting Sunday will not experience the same fate.

The CDC is officially expecting an uptick in hospitalizations and deaths over the next couple weeks: 6abc.com

We are heading to a family graduation this weekend, outside. The other grandparents are in their 80s. We should have done this one by Electronic Funds Transfer.

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Belafon  May 6, 2022 • 5:54:48am

re: #137 sagehen

jobs report

428,000 new jews
unemployment rate still 3.6%

I’m all for 428k new jews, but I dont see how that’s related to the economy.

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sagehen  May 6, 2022 • 5:55:56am

re: #142 Belafon

I’m all for 428k new jews, but I dont see how that’s related to the economy.

ducking autocorrect

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 6, 2022 • 5:56:24am

“Biden is ruining the economy no matter what the statistics say!!!”

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darthstar  May 6, 2022 • 5:56:54am
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Dopamine Fish  May 6, 2022 • 5:57:05am

re: #134 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“There seems to be something wrong with our bloody ships today!”

“Today? Comrade, when is last time you have seen a ship without anything wrong?”

/Yes, I know what your quote is from

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Dopamine Fish  May 6, 2022 • 5:58:50am

re: #143 sagehen

ducking autocorrect

One wonders just what one is typing if one’s phone autocorrects one to “jews”…

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Decatur Deb  May 6, 2022 • 6:00:21am

re: #147 Dopamine Fish

One wonders just what one is typing if one’s phone autocorrects one to “jews”…

Happens when you source your chips from Silicon Wadi.

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darthstar  May 6, 2022 • 6:04:07am
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lawhawk  May 6, 2022 • 6:04:22am

re: #138 darthstar

re: #140 No Malarkey!

The economy has created over 400,000 jobs every single month for the last year. But the plurality of people think the economy has lost jobs.

Now where would they get that idea?

The media that’s been banging the drum that the economy is suckage and inflation is the only thing that matters (when oil prices are the key driver - and energy companies all but admit that profiteering is driving the high fuel costs).

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jeffreyw  May 6, 2022 • 6:05:18am

Good morning!

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HRH Stanley Sea  May 6, 2022 • 6:09:41am

What’s the word for all greens?

🌳

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darthstar  May 6, 2022 • 6:10:22am

Makarov was launched seven years ago…that’s pretty new by Russian Navy standards…the Moskva was 39 years old when it went down.

This wiki entry is already updated back to status Active.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 6, 2022 • 6:15:21am

re: #141 Decatur Deb

We are heading to a family graduation this weekend, outside. The other grandparents are in their 80s. We should have done this one by Electronic Funds Transfer.

My sister has been hoping that we can host Mother’s Day outdoors — but it may be too chilly for that. We are having it at her place, rather than mine, because my property is too small for outside gatherings. And my deck needs to be repaired.

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darthstar  May 6, 2022 • 6:15:32am
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Dopamine Fish  May 6, 2022 • 6:20:12am
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Hecuba's daughter  May 6, 2022 • 6:20:24am

re: #149 darthstar

“It’s not one bad apple on SCOTUS, it’s five of them.”

It’s 6 of them. Just because Roberts hasn’t been as appalling on Roe as his GOP colleagues doesn’t mean he’s not rotten.

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lawhawk  May 6, 2022 • 6:21:18am

So, this post about Godfather 2 reminds me other another movie where abortion is a key plot point:

The other movie? Dirty Dancing. Baby has to fill in with Johnny, because his partner nearly died in a back-room abortion. Baby’s dad (Jerry Orbach) saves her life.

So, the way to quick-caption Dirty Dancing: Young woman helps save a woman who was victim of a botched back-alley abortion; dances the night away.

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Dopamine Fish  May 6, 2022 • 6:23:54am

re: #157 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s 6 of them. Just because Roberts hasn’t been as appalling on Roe as his GOP colleagues doesn’t mean he’s not rotten.

The only thing restraining Roberts from being a pseudo-religious shithead like the other 5 is that his legacy as Chief Justice of the Court seems to be the most important thing to him, and he is doing what he can to keep the others from shitting all over it. Unfortunately for us ordinary Americans, he’s failing spectacularly.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 6, 2022 • 6:26:53am

re: #159 Dopamine Fish

The only thing restraining Roberts from being a pseudo-religious shithead like the other 5 is that his legacy as Chief Justice of the Court seems to be the most important thing to him, and he is doing what he can to keep the others from shitting all over it. Unfortunately for us ordinary Americans, he’s failing spectacularly.

He cannot control which people are appointed to serve with him.

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John Hughes  May 6, 2022 • 6:27:57am

re: #102 Shropshire Slasher

No sunflower oil in my Lidl fora week now.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 6, 2022 • 6:30:30am

re: #158 lawhawk

Yeah, and Dirty Dancing is set in the ’60s (pre-Roe).

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Dangerman  May 6, 2022 • 6:31:22am

re: #160 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He cannot control which people are appointed to serve with him.

He can’t control who is appointed (these days though who knows?)
But if he can’t control his members, wtf is he in charge for

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Barefoot Grin  May 6, 2022 • 6:31:48am

re: #159 Dopamine Fish

The only thing restraining Roberts from being a pseudo-religious shithead like the other 5 is that his legacy as Chief Justice of the Court seems to be the most important thing to him, and he is doing what he can to keep the others from shitting all over it. Unfortunately for us ordinary Americans, he’s failing spectacularly.

Nothing proves the theory of an information bubble surrounding the GOP-aligned justices than Roberts believing that he has a legacy worth securing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 6, 2022 • 6:31:52am

re: #161 John Hughes

No sunflower oil in my Lidl for a week now.

I have a stash at home, not a major hoard, but about a gallon’s worth. I grab a bottle whenever I see one available.

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Dopamine Fish  May 6, 2022 • 6:32:29am

re: #160 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He cannot control the people who are appointed to serve with him.

And you just know it has to be driving him nuts, because he’s the goddamn Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States, and it’s his name on the line when people will talk for generations about how this Court destroyed over 150 years of societal progress, even if it was in spite of his efforts.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 6, 2022 • 6:33:47am

re: #163 Dangerman

He can’t control who is appointed (these days though who knows?)
But if he can’t control his members, wtf is he in charge for

The last batch of appointees were put there to overturn Roe v Wade. That should have been clear from the outset.

The GOP was happy to maintain and pretend that it was not the case, while nodding and winking to their Fundie base, and the rest of us just couldn’t believe the level of outright cynical bastardy they could and would impose on us.

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John Hughes  May 6, 2022 • 6:33:51am

re: #117 Ming5000

The ruble is stronger now, exchange rate wise, than before the war. Putin’s finance people achieved what they hoped to do.

Does that chart show volume?
The value of a thing that is not traded is fictitious.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 6, 2022 • 6:34:48am

re: #168 John Hughes

Does that chart show volume?
The value of a thing that is not traded is fictitious.

and again, if the trading is restricted, then it is not a freely convertible currency.

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William Lewis  May 6, 2022 • 6:39:29am

Booster number 2 in my arm courtesy of the VA. Working in a hotel with no one bothering to mask any more it seems the best way for me to stay reasonably healthy. Hopefully this one will be as side effect free for me as the previous three shots. < knocks on my wooden table >

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Dangerman  May 6, 2022 • 6:42:27am

“In a public appeal for help, Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh has asked if ‘anyone has seen’ a briefcase he accidentally left at a bar late last week.”

Link

Not a bar/restaurant
Not a restaurant

At a bar

Nevermind…

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Hecuba's daughter  May 6, 2022 • 6:43:39am

re: #171 Dangerman

“In a public appeal for help, Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh has asked if ‘anyone has seen’ a briefcase he accidentally left at a bar late last week.”

Link

Not a bar/restaurant
Not a restaurant

At a bar

Borowitz! Satire.

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Ming5000  May 6, 2022 • 6:43:58am

re: #168 John Hughes

Does that chart show volume?
The value of a thing that is not traded is fictitious.

At the bottom is a slender chart of volume. You can see volume spiked at the invasion and is now lower than normal. It is hard to see

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Decatur Deb  May 6, 2022 • 6:44:42am

re: #171 Dangerman

“In a public appeal for help, Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh has asked if ‘anyone has seen’ a briefcase he accidentally left at a bar late last week.”

Link

Not a bar/restaurant
Not a restaurant

At a bar

Borowitz, sadly.

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BlueSpotinAL  May 6, 2022 • 6:44:46am

re: #160 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He cannot control which people are appointed to serve with him.

But Roberts did control who votes for the people who appointed the craptacular 3 appointees, See Shelby Co, vs. Holder, which was the case which started the corrupt trend in SCOTUS cases where the justices made rulings on “facts” that were not factual. Just making shit up.

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Dangerman  May 6, 2022 • 6:45:30am

It gonna be a good day

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Dangerman  May 6, 2022 • 6:46:28am

re: #172 Hecuba’s daughter

Borowitz! Satire.

Damn. caught me fair and square

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Decatur Deb  May 6, 2022 • 6:46:49am

re: #171 Dangerman

Satire is shitty to the point of failure if you have to recognize the author’s history. It doesn’t help clarify the situation.

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John Hughes  May 6, 2022 • 6:47:56am

re: #138 darthstar

Damn but there’s a lot of stuff in the air at the moment.

Wonder what “no callsign” is, doing a little dance with RRR7326 (RAF RC-135W) over Constanta.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 6, 2022 • 6:48:38am

re: #178 Decatur Deb

Satire is shitty to the point of failure if you have to recognize the author’s history. It doesn’t help clarify the situation.

“Biden is going to open the PP 8-billion-dollar abortionplex in Washington DC and declare it off limits to SCOTUS jurisdiction!”

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 6, 2022 • 6:49:42am

re: #178 Decatur Deb

Satire is shitty to the point of failure if you have to recognize the author’s history. It doesn’t help clarify the situation.

Also doesn’t help that a lot of stuff that would obviously be pegged as satirical 10 or 20 years ago is actually plausible today.

182
lawhawk  May 6, 2022 • 6:51:00am

Morning musical interlude: Arcade Fire at the AT&T Block Party

Youtube Video

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Decatur Deb  May 6, 2022 • 6:51:22am

re: #179 John Hughes

Damn but there’s a lot of stuff in the air at the moment.

Wonder what “no callsign” is, doing a little dance with RRR7326 (RAF RC-135W) over Constanta.

Cropduster.

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John Hughes  May 6, 2022 • 6:51:48am

re: #140 No Malarkey!

The economy has created over 400,000 jobs every single month for the last year. But the plurality of people think the economy has lost jobs.

Meanwhile in France Macron reduced unemployment to levels not seen since 2008 and youth unemployment to levels not seen since 1981 (sic!)

But he’s the president of the rich.

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Belafon  May 6, 2022 • 6:52:31am

A president trying to overthrow the government?? Meh:

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Belafon  May 6, 2022 • 6:53:44am

re: #178 Decatur Deb

Satire is shitty to the point of failure if you have to recognize the author’s history. It doesn’t help clarify the situation.

I’m pretty sure there was quite a bit of confirmation bias going on with us reacting to that story.

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John Hughes  May 6, 2022 • 6:54:46am

re: #152 HRH Stanley Sea

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John Hughes  May 6, 2022 • 6:59:03am

re: #165 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have a stash at home, not a major hoard, but about a gallon’s worth. I grab a bottle whenever I see one available.

We sent all ours to Abidjan for our holiday. It didn’t arrive before we left, or maybe got stolen en route.

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Dangerman  May 6, 2022 • 7:00:42am

Rando:

“And if you don’t support abortion in cases of rape or incest, you don’t give a damn at all about the well being of the assault victim.

you want her to be traumatized over and over again psychologically, emotionally and spiritually for nine months until she’s forced to birth the rape baby.

that makes you sick and twisted beyond repair.”

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John Hughes  May 6, 2022 • 7:01:21am

re: #166 Dopamine Fish

And you just know it has to be driving him nuts

there is little more detestable than immoral scum who pretend to be respectable because they speak good and wear nice suits.

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Teukka  May 6, 2022 • 7:02:17am

Are they…are they trying to set up if they hit Poland it’s to protect Ukraine??

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Dangerman  May 6, 2022 • 7:03:40am

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John Hughes  May 6, 2022 • 7:04:38am

re: #173 Ming5000

At the bottom is a slender chart of volume. You can see volume spiked at the invasion and is now lower than normal. It is hard to see

Ok. So the “exchange rate” is all made up of under the table propping up by the Russians.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 6, 2022 • 7:05:00am

re: #192 Dangerman

Remember that there were attempts to pass “fathers’ rights” laws to make abortions illegal without the father’s permission, even if he was a rapist.

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John Hughes  May 6, 2022 • 7:06:46am

re: #183 Decatur Deb

Cropduster.

Good, because we need more sunflowers.

(Crop duster that flew from Catania, Sicily).

It’s hilarious how much of this NATO are doing in the open.

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Decatur Deb  May 6, 2022 • 7:07:26am

re: #195 John Hughes

Good, because we need more sunflowers.

Planting season has been very promising.

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Dangerman  May 6, 2022 • 7:07:52am

Not satire

Chris Licht, the new head of CNN, asked employees not to leak internal meetings, which was promptly leaked to the New York Times.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 6, 2022 • 7:11:41am

re: #191 Teukka

Are they…are they trying to set up if they hit Poland it’s to protect Ukraine??

Poland is too busy preparing to attack German radio stations…

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Shropshire Slasher  May 6, 2022 • 7:13:39am

The husband did it, the husband always does.

Barry Morphew insisted that he still loves his missing wife Suzanne and demanded that the authorities find her in his first TV interview since murder charges against him were dropped.

The Colorado father appeared on Good Morning America with his two adult daughters on Friday. He said: ‘I just love my girls and I love my wife and I want her to be found.’
Suzanne Morphew vanished on Mother’s Day 2020 after going out for a bike ride. Her body has never been found, but authorities believe it may be buried in a hillside in Colorado, submerged by snow.

Barry was charged with her murder. As the case against him progressed, authorities revealed intimate details about their life.

Suzanne had been having an affair with someone she met in high school, while Barry was signed up to online affair websites.

Police said the pair had a tumultuous marriage, with the suggestion being that he might have killed her out of jealousy or to stop her from filing for a divorce.

But last month, the charges were suddenly dropped without prejudice by Assistant District Attorney Linda Stanley in the wake of police discovering what they thought could be Suzanne’s body.

dailymail.co.uk

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John Hughes  May 6, 2022 • 7:13:39am

re: #191 Teukka

Are they…are they trying to set up if they hit Poland it’s to protect Ukraine??

They’ve repeatedly accused EU countries of wanting to annexe bits of Ukraine, Moldova…

Just harkening back to the glory days of the Nazi/Soviet Invasion of Poland.

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Belafon  May 6, 2022 • 7:17:46am

re: #191 Teukka

Are they…are they trying to set up if they hit Poland it’s to protect Ukraine??

“Poland isn’t helping Ukraine by sending all of that military equipment, they’re trying to take over Ukraine. We must stop them.”

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No Malarkey!  May 6, 2022 • 7:18:45am

I mentioned yesterday that forced birthers will tell couples who can no longer get legal fertility treatments that with abortion banned there will be a lot more babies to adopt. Then I saw this today.

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(((Archangel1)))  May 6, 2022 • 7:20:33am

Good morning and thank god it’s the weekend!

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darthstar  May 6, 2022 • 7:21:21am
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John Hughes  May 6, 2022 • 7:22:11am

re: #199 Shropshire Slasher

Please find another source.

The daily fail?

Unless, of course, you are referring to one of:

Accra Daily Mail, Ghanaian newspaper published in Accra

Bangkok Daily Mail, defunct newspaper published in Thailand

Charleston Daily Mail, defunct American newspaper once published in West Virginia

Daily Mail (Brisbane), defunct Australian newspaper

Daily Mail (Hagerstown), American newspaper formerly published in Hagerstown, Maryland

Hull Daily Mail, British newspaper published in East Yorkshire

Irish Daily Mail, an edition of the UK Daily Mail published in the Republic of Ireland and in Northern Ireland

Olney Daily Mail, American newspaper

The Rand Daily Mail, South African newspaper formerly published in Johannesburg

Zambia Daily Mail, Zambian newspaper published in Lusaka

who are (mostly) respectable.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 6, 2022 • 7:22:45am

re: #205 John Hughes

Please find another source.

The daily fail?

Unless, of course, you are referring to one of:

who are (mostly) respectable.

no

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John Hughes  May 6, 2022 • 7:24:56am

re: #206 Shropshire Slasher

Shropshire Slasher causes cancer.

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Crush White Nationalism  May 6, 2022 • 7:25:05am
Wed 4 May 2022 10.05 EDT
Rupert Murdoch’s talkTV television channel has been rated as having “zero viewers” during primetime broadcasts, as the new television channel struggles to attract an audience despite signing up Piers Morgan as a presenter.

The News Desk, the channel’s hour-long political show hosted by Tom Newton Dunn, did not register a single viewer for half of its Tuesday evening broadcast. Although this does not rule out the possibility that some people were watching somewhere in the UK, it means the television audience was so small that it was not picked up by official rating agency, the Broadcasters’ Audience Research Board.

Piers Morgan ratings dive as talkTV struggles to attract viewers (The Guardian)

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Belafon  May 6, 2022 • 7:27:00am

re: #206 Shropshire Slasher

no

Going for the “I’m not to be taken seriously” vote I see.

Most of us will skip the Daily Mail, Fox, Newsmax, NRO, or other similar sources because of how biased they are. I did see part of that interview this morning on GMA, so we know there will be better sources. But I have often seen a “story” that is only being reported by the sites I list, and I refuse to consider them actual stories until another site picks it up because they will repeat fake stories to make them “real.”

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Decatur Deb  May 6, 2022 • 7:30:14am

Note to Self: Avoid Red Square and any assemblage of Russian military assets May 9.

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sagehen  May 6, 2022 • 7:32:13am

re: #158 lawhawk

So, this post about Godfather 2 reminds me other another movie where abortion is a key plot point:

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The other movie? Dirty Dancing. Baby has to fill in with Johnny, because his partner nearly died in a back-room abortion. Baby’s dad (Jerry Orbach) saves her life.

So, the way to quick-caption Dirty Dancing: Young woman helps save a woman who was victim of a botched back-alley abortion; dances the night away.

Cider House Rules was substantially about abortion.

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Barefoot Grin  May 6, 2022 • 7:33:12am

Claire has a good point, especially considering that young women are now the majority of college students.

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mmmirele  May 6, 2022 • 7:34:45am

re: #123 Decatur Deb

Your car is collecting tons of data that can bring you to grief. Welcome to TIA.

en.wikipedia.org

I guess I should make a practice of driving over to LA to protest, right?

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The Pie Overlord!  May 6, 2022 • 7:38:20am

So typical.

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(((Archangel1)))  May 6, 2022 • 7:38:40am
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Teukka  May 6, 2022 • 7:38:58am

Fake news about Finnish tanks were spread in Russia. Finnish authorities comment on them.

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lawhawk  May 6, 2022 • 7:44:27am

If confirmed, it appears the fires are focused around the vertical rocket launch cells aft of the forward gun. If those missiles cook off, that could end the ship. The rocket launch cells can carry the SS-N-27 missiles. There’s also an anti-sub rocket launcher forward of the bridge that may also be involved.

Each of those SS-N-27 missiles carries up to 500kg of high explosives, plus fuel.

Technically, those missiles can also be tipped with nuclear weapons.

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darthstar  May 6, 2022 • 7:45:12am
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lawhawk  May 6, 2022 • 7:46:47am

re: #218 darthstar

Russia also appears to have lost one of their latest versions of the T-90 in Ukraine as well - destroyed just as surely as all the other tanks Ukraine has wrecked. Russian gear isn’t holding up against Ukrainian forces, let alone NATO gear that Ukraine is deploying.

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Dopamine Fish  May 6, 2022 • 7:47:05am

re: #217 lawhawk

If confirmed, it appears the fires are focused around the vertical rocket launch cells aft of the forward gun. If those missiles cook off, that could end the ship. The rocket launch cells can carry the SS-N-27 missiles. There’s also an anti-sub rocket launcher forward of the bridge that may also be involved.

Each of those SS-N-27 missiles carries up to 500kg of high explosives, plus fuel.

Technically, those missiles can also be tipped with nuclear weapons.

The silhouette is substantially similar, so there’s at least a chance that this is true. That makes the Neptune SSM a very real threat to heavy shipping; I hope the US Navy is taking notice. Also, the Russians had better up their damage control game, or that lady is going to join the Moskva at the bottom of the Black Sea.

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John Hughes  May 6, 2022 • 7:48:58am

Strange stuff in the air. CL60, a tiny Bombardier Challenger 650, takes of from Constanta, Romania and it’s flying nice little straight lines along the Moldovan and Ukrainian borders, then back again. And again. And again…

When you can see what spies are doing it’s because they want you (or, more likely, someone else) to know what they are doing.

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Teukka  May 6, 2022 • 7:50:08am

re: #221 John Hughes

Strange stuff in the air. CL60, a tiny Bombardier Challenger 650, takes of from Constanta, Romania and it’s flying nice little straight lines along the Moldovan and Ukrainian borders, then back again. And again. And again…

When you can see what spies are doing it’s because they want you (or, more likely, someone else) to know what they are doing.

“Globaleye” A/C?

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lawhawk  May 6, 2022 • 7:53:14am
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Shropshire Slasher  May 6, 2022 • 7:54:06am

re: #218 darthstar

If the MIG-31 was a car, it would be considered a classic.

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Decatur Deb  May 6, 2022 • 7:57:27am

re: #220 Dopamine Fish

Now we’ll be seeing Ukrainian icons of the great god Neptune.

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John Hughes  May 6, 2022 • 7:58:07am

re: #222 Teukka

“Globaleye” A/C?

Interesting. The 6000 is faster than the 650, but the 650 uses less fuel, so is possibly better for the “globaleye” role.

Poor man’s awacs. (For a 1st world definition of poor).

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(((Archangel1)))  May 6, 2022 • 7:58:16am
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Teukka  May 6, 2022 • 7:59:07am

re: #226 John Hughes

Interesting. The 6000 is faster than the 650, but the 650 uses less fuel, so is possibly better for the “globaleye” role.

Poor man’s awacs. (For a 1st world definition of poor).

Not as much “poor mans AWACS” as NextGen AWACS…

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Teukka  May 6, 2022 • 8:02:17am

Also, in case Finland and Sweden join NATO, this meme here…

Youtube Video

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John Hughes  May 6, 2022 • 8:02:22am

re: #228 Teukka

If it ain’t a Boeing the USAF ain’t going.

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Teukka  May 6, 2022 • 8:03:20am

re: #230 John Hughes

If it ain’t a Boeing the USAF ain’t going.

Wouldn’t surprise me if the US (or like, the USMC) already have them on US built airframes.

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Decatur Deb  May 6, 2022 • 8:03:46am

re: #215 (((Archangel1)))

We now go live to the captain of the Makarov:

“Hear me,” he cried, “daughter of Aegis-bearing Jove, unweariable, hear me now, for you gave no heed to my prayers when Neptune was wrecking me.”

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Eventual Carrion  May 6, 2022 • 8:04:53am

re: #34 ckkatz

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Sounds like states meddling with interstate commerce.

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Teukka  May 6, 2022 • 8:06:49am
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Teukka  May 6, 2022 • 8:10:45am

re: #234 Teukka

Also, over under on the Russian war crimes ending up being this well documented at the ICC?

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Decatur Deb  May 6, 2022 • 8:12:09am

re: #235 Teukka

Also, over under on the Russian war crimes ending up being this well documented at the ICC?

Ukraine is making a list, down to the PFCs.

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Teukka  May 6, 2022 • 8:13:23am

re: #236 Decatur Deb

Ukraine is making a list, down to the PFCs.

As is Amnesty. And I think Amnesty is at like 10 k confirmed cases at this juncture.

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Florida Panhandler  May 6, 2022 • 8:13:26am

re: #227 (((Archangel1)))
The end goal is to “return” to an American version of an idealized Old Testament. There are no boundaries for such an endeavor and every granted Constitutional right is on the table for attack and repeal.

A dedicated pocket of Conservatives have long dreamed of returning to an essentially pre-Medieval Late- Bronze Age Law and family code and they are finally executing their plan. There are no boundaries - polygamy, family honor killings, warlord and large landowner rule (corrupt local Sheriffs and mayors), slavery, father’s ownership of wives, women and girls, public executions of gays, Debtors’ prisons, this and much more on on the table for “Libertarian” ideals. I’ve dealt with this mindset since college in the mid-80’s. I know it, I’ve heard it and it has only grown on the internet since then.

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John Hughes  May 6, 2022 • 8:14:35am

re: #235 Teukka

Zero.

Russia, like the US, is not a signatory.

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Decatur Deb  May 6, 2022 • 8:15:21am

Off to watch Granddaughter2 get her BA and start her career in fast food.

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lawhawk  May 6, 2022 • 8:16:33am
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Teukka  May 6, 2022 • 8:18:46am

re: #239 John Hughes

Zero.

Russia, like the US, is not a signatory.

Russia and the US not being signatories does not mean that the ICC doesn’t have jurisdiction over crimes under universal jurisdiction… It just means that the ICC will effect a more unfriendlier arrest and extradition… And that the bar for them acting may be a little higher…

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Teukka  May 6, 2022 • 8:20:13am

ℹ️ Unconfirmed y’all, unconfirmed.

But big if legit.

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John Hughes  May 6, 2022 • 8:26:46am

re: #242 Teukka

The ICC doesn’t have universal jurisdiction.

Some countries claim they have.

Trying to enforce that on US or Russian citizens might be complicated.

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Jay C  May 6, 2022 • 8:39:50am

Wordle 321 5/6

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Real dummy move on Guess 4 (re-used a “wrong” letter), but still got it.

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Teukka  May 6, 2022 • 8:42:40am
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Teukka  May 6, 2022 • 8:43:26am

re: #244 John Hughes

The ICC doesn’t have universal jurisdiction.

Some countries claim they have.

Trying to enforce that on US or Russian citizens might be complicated.

Yeah. You’d have to concentrate on individuals where you have a level of evidence which makes either lose face seriously if they try to act.

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Teukka  May 6, 2022 • 8:47:52am

Editorial department cartoonist at Finnish “Iltalehti” (tabloid) rendition of Russian 9th of May parade in Moscow.

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Belafon  May 6, 2022 • 8:49:29am

re: #246 Teukka

“You’re DOOMED, DOOMED I tell ya!” - Signed, the Putinator

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lawhawk  May 6, 2022 • 8:54:34am

re: #246 Teukka

So, they’ll fly the same planes in a racetrack formation to make it appear that there’s more of them than they have? They’ll run the same tanks and missile launchers around in circles?

All that spectacle and the reality is that the Putin imperialist war against Ukraine is going really badly and no amount of saber rattling will change that.

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(((Archangel1)))  May 6, 2022 • 8:59:53am

Been referring to it as the Alito Court since the draft was made public.
Robert’s legacy will be one where it never existed at all.

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John Hughes  May 6, 2022 • 9:03:00am

re: #251 (((Archangel1)))

I disagree.

Roberts has made his court. He should own it.

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Eventual Carrion  May 6, 2022 • 9:05:23am

re: #103 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I need to learn to make corn tortillas. They are nearly impossible to find in Germany (flour tortillas, on the other hand, no problem, just go to the Turkish supermarket)

A buddy recently brought some over from Finland (where you can get them in most supermarkets) and we used them to make green chili/chicken enchiladas for Cinco de Mayo.

Yeah, I much prefer corn to flour.

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sagehen  May 6, 2022 • 9:06:40am

re: #252 John Hughes

I disagree.

Roberts has made his court. He should own it.

Citizens United and Shelby definitely laid the groundwork for the 2014 and 2016 elections, the appointments that did or didn’t happen because of the results of those elections, and everything since.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 6, 2022 • 9:08:36am

re: #103 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I need to learn to make corn tortillas. They are nearly impossible to find in Germany (flour tortillas, on the other hand, no problem, just go to the Turkish supermarket)

A buddy recently brought some over from Finland (where you can get them in most supermarkets) and we used them to make green chili/chicken enchiladas for Cinco de Mayo.

How to Make Corn Tortillas

This recipe for homemade corn tortillas only requires two ingredients and tastes better than anything you can buy at the store. These corn tortillas are also gluten-free and can be used for tacos, quesadillas, and more!

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Crush White Nationalism  May 6, 2022 • 9:10:20am

re: #252 John Hughes

I disagree.

Roberts has made his court. He should own it.

The Senate made the court.

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sagehen  May 6, 2022 • 9:14:51am

Only after Citizens United and Shelby made the Senate.

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John Hughes  May 6, 2022 • 9:15:03am

re: #242 Teukka

Not wanting to harp on about this, but I’ve seen people updinging.

” It [the ICC] lacks universal territorial jurisdiction and may only investigate and prosecute crimes committed within member states, crimes committed by nationals of member states, or crimes in situations referred to the Court by the United Nations Security Council. “

Ukraine is not a signatory. Russia is not a signatory. The UN security council will not refer crimes in Ukraine to the ICC.

George W. Bush relegated the ICC to its current role of “prosecuting African dictators that it would be embarrassing or expensive to do at home”.

That is all.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 6, 2022 • 9:16:38am

re: #202 No Malarkey!

I mentioned yesterday that forced birthers will tell couples who can no longer get legal fertility treatments that with abortion banned there will be a lot more babies to adopt. Then I saw this today.

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So the Alito version of the 14 words?

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Dave In Austin  May 6, 2022 • 9:17:35am

Poop!

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Teukka  May 6, 2022 • 9:18:07am

re: #258 John Hughes

Not wanting to harp on about this, but I’ve seen people updinging.

” It [the ICC] lacks universal territorial jurisdiction and may only investigate and prosecute crimes committed within member states, crimes committed by nationals of member states, or crimes in situations referred to the Court by the United Nations Security Council. “

Ukraine is not a signatory. Russia is not a signatory. The UN security council will not refer crimes in Ukraine to the ICC.

George W. Bush relegated the ICC to its current role of “prosecuting African dictators that it would be embarrassing or expensive to do at home”.

That is all.

Then the ICC prosecutors chamber wouldn’t be investigating war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide in the current conflict and going back to the 2014 invasion of Luhansk and Donetsk. And they have opened a preliminary inquiry into precisely that. Meaning that what they suspect has happened is so big they can ignore non-signatory status.

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TedStriker  May 6, 2022 • 9:19:02am

re: #259 Hecuba’s daughter

So the Alito version of the 14 words?

Thing is, that’s a quote of a 2008 CDC report in the footnotes.

Not that that’s any better, but there it is.

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(((Archangel1)))  May 6, 2022 • 9:21:09am

re: #252 John Hughes

I disagree.

Roberts has made his court. He should own it.

He’s been fixated with how it, and he, will be remembered for so very long. So in my opinion, the most appropriate retribution for the monstrous fanatical abomination he knowingly unleashed on America would be for no such legacy to even exist.

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jaunte  May 6, 2022 • 9:23:07am
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Shropshire Slasher  May 6, 2022 • 9:24:47am
The FBI has quietly pulled the security clearances of some employees who attended protests before last year’s Capitol riot, The Post has learned.
It’s unclear how many FBI employees are impacted. However, Jordan’s letter says multiple FBI employees have been affected. He also claims the Justice Department inspector general “is now examining whether the FBI’s actions violate federal civil service laws.”

Jordan wrote that the yanking of security clearances would effectively terminate employees, even if they are not charged with criminal wrongdoing linked to the riot.

“Because a security clearance is required for FBI positions, the suspension of the security clearance means the FBI has suspended these employees from work indefinitely. Such a suspension is likely to be the first step in terminating employment,” Jordan wrote.

nypost.com

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lawhawk  May 6, 2022 • 9:25:07am

A few questions for the anti abortion GOPers in Congress esp. since states are pushing personhood amendments, and blanket bans on abortion nationwide.

1. How does the census handle the fetus if they’re a person for purposes of homicide statutes.

2. How must insurers treat the fetus if there’s a miscarriage given that they are a life in being.

Feel free to add your own…

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jaunte  May 6, 2022 • 9:26:14am

re: #266 lawhawk

Can the fetus ride in the front seat without its own seat belt?

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Dopamine Fish  May 6, 2022 • 9:26:17am

re: #266 lawhawk

A few questions for the anti abortion GOPers in Congress esp. since states are pushing personhood amendments, and blanket bans on abortion nationwide.

1. How does the census handle the fetus if they’re a person for purposes of homicide statutes.

2. How must insurers treat the fetus if there’s a miscarriage given that they are a life in being.

Feel free to add your own…

3. If I get a woman pregnant, can she sue me for child support to pay for her maternity costs, since technically, the fetus she is carrying is now considered a “life”?

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darthstar  May 6, 2022 • 9:28:20am

re: #223 lawhawk

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About fuckin’ time.

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Crush White Nationalism  May 6, 2022 • 9:31:22am

re: #264 jaunte

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Hecuba's daughter  May 6, 2022 • 9:32:52am

re: #251 (((Archangel1)))

Been referring to it as the Alito Court since the draft was made public.
Robert’s legacy will be one where it never existed at all.

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It is his court. He will be remembered for his attacks on voting rights and Citizens United.

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(((Archangel1)))  May 6, 2022 • 9:32:55am

re: #268 Dopamine Fish

4. With 1 in 50 pregnancies ending up ectopic and life-threatening for the woman, can pregnant rape victims in Florida terminate the pregnancy and kill their rapists on stand your ground merits?

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Dopamine Fish  May 6, 2022 • 9:33:56am

re: #272 (((Archangel1)))

4. With 1 in 50 pregnancies ending up ectopic and life threatening for the woman, can pregnant rape victims in Florida terminate the pregnancy and kill their rapists on stand your ground merits?

Ooooh, I never thought about that one.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 6, 2022 • 9:36:11am

Man, if the Texas power grid is straining in May, it’s gonna be straight fucked in July and August.

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John Hughes  May 6, 2022 • 9:40:27am

re: #261 Teukka

Maybe they can investigate, although I suspect that are going outside their remit in doing so. But there is no way they can prosecute.

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Eventual Carrion  May 6, 2022 • 9:40:49am

re: #152 HRH Stanley Sea

What’s the word for all greens?

🌳

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Belafon  May 6, 2022 • 9:41:21am

re: #274 Eclectic Cyborg

Man, if the Texas power grid is straining in May, it’s gonna be straight fucked in July and August.

We’re going from a couple of upper 70 days, to 95-97 days tomorrow and sunday.

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John Hughes  May 6, 2022 • 9:42:17am

re: #263 (((Archangel1)))

To be forgotten, or to be remembered as infamous…

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John Hughes  May 6, 2022 • 9:46:36am

re: #272 (((Archangel1)))

Pregnancy and birth threatens the life of the woman.
Is abortion up ‘till birth legal in stand your ground states?

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Crush White Nationalism  May 6, 2022 • 9:49:16am

re: #277 Belafon

We’re going from a couple of upper 70 days, to 95-97 days tomorrow and sunday.

Weather has been cold and rainy here in Chicagoland, but it’ll be up to 63 Sunday, and I’m hoping for some sunshine. I’ve been in my cave for too long.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 6, 2022 • 9:52:43am

re: #277 Belafon

We’re going from a couple of upper 70 days, to 95-97 days tomorrow and sunday.

Looks like it will be mid to upper 90’s for you for the entire following week.

Meanwhile we will reach 60 on Sunday but the rest of next week will be in the 70’s. Right now we are still experiencing “April” showers and temperatures in the mid-40’s.

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Dangerman  May 6, 2022 • 9:53:09am

re: #263 (((Archangel1)))

He’s been fixated with how it, and he, will be remembered for so very long. So in my opinion, the most appropriate retribution for the monstrous fanatical abomination he knowingly unleashed on America would be for no such legacy to even exist.

You don’t get to declare your legacy
History does

What you do in the now is lead
He’s failed miserably at that.

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Belafon  May 6, 2022 • 9:54:21am

re: #278 John Hughes

To be forgotten, or to be remembered as infamous…

“The Roberts Court, whose primary decision maker after Barrett’s confirmation was Samuel Alito…”

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Dangerman  May 6, 2022 • 9:55:05am

re: #267 jaunte

Can the fetus ride in the front seat without its own seat belt?

Back.when Hov lanes were all the rage, many pregnant women tried that gambit “there’s two in this car”

They all lost

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The Pie Overlord!  May 6, 2022 • 9:56:38am
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Crush White Nationalism  May 6, 2022 • 9:56:41am

re: #267 jaunte

Can the fetus ride in the front seat without its own seat belt?

It has to be in a car seat, which will be very painful for the prospective mother.

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Dangerman  May 6, 2022 • 9:58:45am

re: #283 Belafon

“The Roberts Court, whose primary decision maker after Barrett’s confirmation was Samuel Alito…”

CJ Roberts…who ceded the decision making to Alito after…

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Hecuba's daughter  May 6, 2022 • 10:04:29am

re: #287 Dangerman

CJ Roberts…who ceded the decision making to Alito after…

Roberts isn’t the one who makes the assignment if he’s not in the majority.

After the votes have been tallied, the Chief Justice, or the most senior Justice in the majority if the Chief Justice is in the dissent, assigns a Justice in the majority to write the opinion of the Court

So Thomas may be running the court now.

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sagehen  May 6, 2022 • 10:08:56am

re: #279 John Hughes

Pregnancy and birth threatens the life of the woman.
Is abortion up ‘till birth legal in stand your ground states?

I know a lot of the Catholics and Evangelicals like to talk about the “innocent” baby, but for a difficult pregnancy, under Jewish law it’s NOT an innocent. It’s a pursuer (yes, that’s the legal term) and everybody else, especially doctors and midwives, are duty-bound to do whatever is in their power to protect the woman from that pursuer.

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steve_davis  May 6, 2022 • 10:11:04am

in all seriousness, overturning roe may wind up being a kind of blessing in disguise. it was always a compromise: “legal for three months, then maybe legal in certain circumstances.” Now we finally get to explore, do we want to live in a world where a fetus has personhood? If ultimately we get legislation indicating that no, a fetus is not a person, then maybe we finally get out from under the debate.

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Captain Ron  May 6, 2022 • 10:11:26am

We’re keeping a close eye on Kaliningrad.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 6, 2022 • 10:11:28am

re: #288 Hecuba’s daughter

Roberts isn’t the one who makes the assignment if he’s not in the majority.

So Thomas may be running the court now.

You mean the same Thomas whose wife tried to overthrow our government?

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Dangerman  May 6, 2022 • 10:11:31am

re: #288 Hecuba’s daughter

Roberts isn’t the one who makes the assignment if he’s not in the majority.

So Thomas may be running the court now.

I know
But we’re talking reputation and leadership

There’s way more to running the court than just the votes.

If Roberts wasnt the leak or in on it, it speaks volumes to how little respected / how much control he’s lost

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mmmirele  May 6, 2022 • 10:13:24am

re: #289 sagehen

I know a lot of the Catholics and Evangelicals like to talk about the “innocent” baby, but for a difficult pregnancy, under Jewish law it’s NOT an innocent. It’s a pursuer (yes, that’s the legal term) and everybody else, especially doctors and midwives, are duty-bound to do whatever is in their power to protect the woman from that pursuer.

Right. And I am of the opinion that since this is ultimately a *religious* belief about the status of the fetus being forced on people who have different religious beliefs, that all of this should be attacked under the First Amendment. Put these asshats on the spot on how they don’t give a damn about the Constitution. While at the same time assisting pregnant people with whatever help they need.

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Dopamine Fish  May 6, 2022 • 10:18:57am
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IngisKahn  May 6, 2022 • 10:19:14am

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Barefoot Grin  May 6, 2022 • 10:20:29am

re: #296 IngisKahn

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Go, go, go little Queenie!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 6, 2022 • 10:28:14am

Topical indeed, DW uploads their latest program, about abortion in Europe:

Youtube Video

..

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Crush White Nationalism  May 6, 2022 • 10:29:43am
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Captain Ron  May 6, 2022 • 10:30:28am
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Dangerman  May 6, 2022 • 10:31:29am

Thin skin should not be in politics
It ain’t beanbag

According to a copy of former Secretary of Defense Mark Esper’s memoir, A Sacred Oath, former President Donald Trump demanded that former Gen. Stan McChrystal and former Navy Admiral William McRaven be recalled into active duty so that they could be court-martialed for criticizing the president, TPM reports.

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Dopamine Fish  May 6, 2022 • 10:32:32am

re: #301 Dangerman

so that they could be court-martialed for criticizing the president

That’s not how it works. That’s not how any of this works.

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steve_davis  May 6, 2022 • 10:33:27am

I want to lie down and read for a bit, but my fucking cat is already curled up in my space. sigh….she is my baby girl, so I must love her unconditionally, even if I really wish she’d go play outside for a bit.

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Dangerman  May 6, 2022 • 10:34:01am

re: #302 Dopamine Fish

That’s not how it works. That’s not how any of this works.

I’m the president, don’t I get to…?
No!

Effing toddler

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 6, 2022 • 10:34:10am

re: #299 Punish Domestic Terrorists

The dawning of Fascism in America.

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lawhawk  May 6, 2022 • 10:34:41am

Authorities believe gas leak behind explosion at a Havana hotel that killed at least 8 people.

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lawhawk  May 6, 2022 • 10:35:49am
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lawhawk  May 6, 2022 • 10:37:09am
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A Cranky One  May 6, 2022 • 10:38:01am
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retired cynic  May 6, 2022 • 10:39:52am

re: #277 Belafon

We’re going from a couple of upper 70 days, to 95-97 days tomorrow and sunday.

We’re going from 45 to over 90, with 2 days of 70 in between. I DO NOT LIKE.

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Teukka  May 6, 2022 • 10:43:20am

re: #309 A Cranky One

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darthstar  May 6, 2022 • 10:47:30am

12?

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No Malarkey!  May 6, 2022 • 10:50:19am

This is actually the correct ruling, because he will go on trial for what he did on January 6, not for being Nazi scum. I mean, if you were on a jury trying a Nazi, it would be hard not to convict him just as a matter of principle.

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garzooma  May 6, 2022 • 10:50:37am

re: #150 lawhawk

Now where would they get that idea?

The media that’s been banging the drum that the economy is suckage and inflation is the only thing that matters (when oil prices are the key driver - and energy companies all but admit that profiteering is driving the high fuel costs).

Another driver no one talks about is restricting immigration.

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darthstar  May 6, 2022 • 10:56:04am

re: #313 No Malarkey!

This is actually the correct ruling, because he will go on trial for what he did on January 6, not for being Nazi scum. I mean, if you were on a jury trying a Nazi, it would be hard not to convict him just as a matter of principle.

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I’d be okay with someone putting big posters of him doing the Hitler pose in front of the courthouse.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 6, 2022 • 11:07:52am

re: #185 Belafon

A president trying to overthrow the government?? Meh:

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Florida Panhandler  May 6, 2022 • 11:19:20am

re: #302 Dopamine Fish

That’s not how it works. That’s not how any of this works.

But it will if a Republican- ANY Republican gains the White House possibly in any of our lifetimes.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  May 6, 2022 • 6:41:18pm

re: #106 Decatur Deb

Decades ago there was a tremendously detailed website from the Federation of American Scientists. It was focused on National Security/Department of Defense issues. It included a large section on Agricultural Defense programs like Daedalus. Someone was thinking way ahead.

(Think they might have morphed into globalsecurity.com.)

Org rather than .com globalsecurity.org
It is indeed the old crowd from FAS, including John Pike, who used to make lots of tv appearances back when the nutworks at least pretended to value real expertise. My favorite though is Charles Vick, chief technical analyst. Back during the Cold War Mr. Vick, a private citizen, used open sources and personal contacts to reach astoundingly accurate conclusions about the Soviet space program and rocketry. These were often at odds with official speculation but were vindicated after the Soviet Union collapsed and hard facts became available in the west
He produced accurate drawings of the failed N-1 Moon rocket and was the first western analyst to determine that it had 30 first stage engines. He was also the first analyst to speculate publicly that the “Proton’ (D-1) heavy booster had originally been designed as a giant ICBM to lob a 100MT warhead at the United States. Officials scoffed at this (D was equivalent to the Saturn I) but it, too, was later confirmed.


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