And Now, a Picture of the Milky Way’s Supermassive Black Hole (VIDEO)

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This is an image of the supermassive black hole, Sagittarius A*, at the center of our Milky Way galaxy.
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Image of Sgr A* from EHT collaboration
Event Horizon Telescope collaboration: https://ve42.co/EHT

Animations from The Relativistic Astrophysics group, Institute for Theoretical Physics, Goethe-Universität Frankfurt. Massive thanks to Prof. Luciano Rezzolla, Dr Christian Fromm and Dr Alejandro Cruz-Osorio.

A huge thanks to Prof. Peter Tuthill and Dr Manisha Caleb for feedback on earlier versions of this video and helping explain VLBI.

Great video by Thatcher Chamberlin about VLBI here – YouTube

Animations and simulations with English text:
L. R. Weih & L. Rezzolla (Goethe University Frankfurt)
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Video of stars going around Sgr A* from European Southern Observatory
https://www.eso.org/public/videos/eso1825e/

Video zooming into the center of our galaxy from European Southern Observatory
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Video of observation of M87 courtesy of:
C. M. Fromm, Y. Mizuno & L. Rezzolla (Goethe University Frankfurt)
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Video of observation of SgrA* courtesy of
C. M. Fromm, Y. Mizuno & L. Rezzolla (Goethe University Frankfurt)
Z. Younsi (University College London)
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Video of telescopes in the array 2017:
C. M. Fromm & L. Rezzolla (Goethe University Frankfurt)
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Animations and simulations (no text):
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109 comments
1
Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 12, 2022 • 10:42:10am

And they will refuse to comply.

Sheesh my mind is typing faster than my fingers this morning.

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lawhawk  May 12, 2022 • 10:43:42am

Youtube Video

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2022 • 10:46:19am

re: #1 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Time is running out. They better start doing more than just subpoenas ASAP.

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Charles Johnson  May 12, 2022 • 10:46:51am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2022 • 10:51:29am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Bet you that congressman considers himself “Pro life”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 12, 2022 • 10:51:54am

re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg

Bet you that congressman considers himself “Pro life”.

Once they are born, they are on their own.

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Dangerman  May 12, 2022 • 10:52:34am

re: #1 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

And they will refuse to comply.

Sheesh my mind is typing faster than my fingers this morning.

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Committee has the goods

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Charles Johnson  May 12, 2022 • 10:53:38am
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Crush White Nationalism  May 12, 2022 • 10:57:58am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 12, 2022 • 11:01:46am

re: #7 Dangerman

They have the goods

Perhaps. But until they actually release them, I’ll consider said “goods” to be vaporware.

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2022 • 11:03:03am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Welp here is a GOP congressman calling for the U.S. to…starve detained babies

The problem is not the feeding priority. The problem is DETAINED BABIES.

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JC1  May 12, 2022 • 11:04:47am

re: #11 Decatur Deb

The problem is not the feeding priority. The problem is DETAINED BABIES.

No problem, just hook them up intravenously to various pro-life people for 9 months at a time.

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jaunte  May 12, 2022 • 11:05:01am

Troy Nehls knows those babies crawled across the border to vote him out.

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2022 • 11:06:00am

re: #13 jaunte

Troy Nehls knows those babies crawled across the border to vote him out.

With cutlasses clenched in their little gums.

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Crush White Nationalism  May 12, 2022 • 11:07:20am

U.S. prosecutors open grand jury probe into Trump’s handling of classified records -NYT (Reuters via MSN)

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jaunte  May 12, 2022 • 11:07:21am
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wrenchwench  May 12, 2022 • 11:07:28am

re: #13 jaunte

Troy Nehls knows those babies crawled across the border to vote him out.

He knows how to motivate a baby.

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Barefoot Grin  May 12, 2022 • 11:11:52am
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Charles Johnson  May 12, 2022 • 11:12:02am
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Captain Ron  May 12, 2022 • 11:13:42am
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wrenchwench  May 12, 2022 • 11:24:23am

I have never seen such an interesting promoted tweet before.

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Dangerman  May 12, 2022 • 11:30:15am

re: #18 Barefoot Grin

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“may”

really?

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Belafon  May 12, 2022 • 11:32:37am

re: #22 Dangerman

“may”

really?

He had help.

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Captain Ron  May 12, 2022 • 11:35:12am
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wrenchwench  May 12, 2022 • 11:39:35am

re: #24 Captain Ron

[Embedded content]

Is a retweet sometimes as good as a reported tweet?

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Hecuba's daughter  May 12, 2022 • 11:41:10am

re: #18 Barefoot Grin

TBF (and that’s hard for this vile man) much of this may not be his personal fault:

1. The tax cut was a GOP policy, not his. He supported it but any Republican president would have done the same.
2. One can argue Trump’s responsibility for the existence of the pandemic itself. But if we adopt the theory that it would have happened anyway without his documented negligence, the skyrocketing deficit in the last year was due to efforts to ward off the economic collapse that was a byproduct of this catastrophe.

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Dopamine Fish  May 12, 2022 • 11:42:17am

Thread, in which an anti-vaxxer fucks around with the court, and promptly finds out.

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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  May 12, 2022 • 11:48:53am

re: #9 Punish Domestic Terrorists

What a cretin.

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Charles Johnson  May 12, 2022 • 11:49:30am
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Charles Johnson  May 12, 2022 • 11:53:14am
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steve_davis  May 12, 2022 • 11:54:48am

rolling through the sopranos for the first time ever. paulie and chris out in the pine barrens trying to find somebody who was supposed to be dead when they put him in the trunk. tony calls but the reception’s bad. dude killed 16 chechyans as part of russian ministry of interior. “fuck!” paulie says, “this guy killed 16 checkoslovakians and was an interior decorator.”

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wrenchwench  May 12, 2022 • 11:56:43am
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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2022 • 11:57:58am

re: #31 steve_davis

That was probably the best episode in the series. Won’t spoil.

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2022 • 12:03:38pm

re: #21 wrenchwench

I have never seen such an interesting promoted tweet before.

Tribal recognition is really, really, REALLY a tangle—I didn’t do NW coast much, and can’t speak to it. Our department head, a Cherokee with documented tribal identity, went on to become the poor sod who made those calls for the BIA.

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Dopamine Fish  May 12, 2022 • 12:04:12pm
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Charles Johnson  May 12, 2022 • 12:10:06pm

That $100 worth of crypto I bought as an experiment? Now down to $55.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2022 • 12:10:50pm

JFC, I’m getting sick and tired of not a single person pointing out that the actual reason for the formula shortage is that the formula made by the main supplier is tainted and FDA shut them down SO BABIES WOULDN’T SICKEN AND DIE.

theconversation.com

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2022 • 12:10:53pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

That $100 worth of crypto I bought as an experiment? Now down to $55.

Let that be a lesson to you.

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Dopamine Fish  May 12, 2022 • 12:10:58pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

That $100 worth of crypto I bought as an experiment? Now down to $55.

But it’s an INVESTMENT, Charles. You’ve just got to let it APPRECIATE. (In someone else’s pockets.)

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wrenchwench  May 12, 2022 • 12:12:23pm

re: #34 Decatur Deb

Tribal identity is really, really, REALLY a tangle—I didn’t do NW coast much, and can’t speak to it. Our department head, a Cherokee with documented tribal identity, went on to become the poor sod who made those calls for the BIA.

One tragic case I know of in NM is tangled tribal identity within an individual—she feels welcome nowhere.

The Chinook River goes to the coast. The Nation is on the Columbia river, which also goes to the coast. It’s that side of the Divide. I used to live about 120’ on the other side of the Divide.

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Dopamine Fish  May 12, 2022 • 12:12:53pm

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

This whole “thou shalt breast feed” movement really pisses me the fuck off. Hey Margarine Tater-Greens, are you going to sit down on the House floor with your (overwhelmingly male) colleagues and openly breast-feed your baby? No? Then fuck right on off and let mothers who have to work to even be able to afford formula for their kids do what they have to do. Or, if you’re willing to pay for a mandatory year minimum maternity leave for women, I’m all on board with that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2022 • 12:14:59pm
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wrenchwench  May 12, 2022 • 12:15:29pm

re: #41 Dopamine Fish

This whole “thou shalt breast feed” movement really pisses me the fuck off. Hey Margarine Tater-Greens, are you going to sit down on the House floor with your (overwhelmingly male) colleagues and openly breast-feed your baby? No? Then fuck right on off and let mothers who have to work to even be able to afford formula for their kids do what they have to do. Or, if you’re willing to pay for a mandatory year minimum maternity leave for women, I’m all on board with that.

The shortages are also affecting those with special nutritional needs not met by breast milk.

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2022 • 12:17:11pm

re: #40 wrenchwench

One tragic case I know of in NM is tangled tribal identity within an individual—she feels welcome nowhere.

The Chinook River goes to the coast. The Nation is on the Columbia river, which also goes to the coast. It’s that side of the Divide. I used to live about 120’ on the other side of the Divide.

Around here, the Poarch Creek are working for recognition. Tons of Florida and Alabama gambling money ride on the outcome. The trouble is that nations were often “sometimes” things, depending on when, who, and where.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2022 • 12:17:55pm
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Belafon  May 12, 2022 • 12:21:02pm

re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth

While I would like to be a student for life, I’m afraid I have to work.

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wrenchwench  May 12, 2022 • 12:21:15pm

re: #44 Decatur Deb

Around here, the Poarch Creek are working for recognition. Tons of Florida and Alabama gambling money ride on the outcome. The trouble is that nations were often “sometimes” things, depending on when, who, and where.

In human terms, identity should be a very flexible thing. Then Law enters into it. Culture, too. Tradition and Heritage worst of all. Everything stiffens up.

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Charles Johnson  May 12, 2022 • 12:22:18pm
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JC1  May 12, 2022 • 12:22:34pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

That $100 worth of crypto I bought as an experiment? Now down to $55.

At least you didn’t buy Luna. That 100 bucks would now be worth about 2 cents.

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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  May 12, 2022 • 12:24:53pm
…Mastriano explicitly endorsed the idea that the state legislature has “sole authority” to reappoint new electors.

Opinion: An openly pro-coup Trumpist could become Pennsylvania’s next governor

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wrenchwench  May 12, 2022 • 12:26:09pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

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the course you opt for

the action you elect to take

the preference

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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  May 12, 2022 • 12:26:19pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

That $100 worth of crypto I bought as an experiment? Now down to $55.

I paid about $50 for more than 1.9 million Shiba Inu coins.

They’re now worth about $35.

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2022 • 12:28:54pm

re: #52 The GOP is a terrorist organization

I paid about $50 for more than 1.9 million Shiba Inu coins.

They’re now worth about $35.

That’s less than a Figgy Fizz bottle cap.
muppet.fandom.com

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Charles Johnson  May 12, 2022 • 12:29:00pm
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Belafon  May 12, 2022 • 12:30:33pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

My favorite Republican is Abraham Lincoln.

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2022 • 12:31:32pm

re: #55 Belafon

My favorite Republican is Abraham Lincoln.

Millicent Fenwick/Lacey Davenport
en.wikipedia.org

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Barefoot Grin  May 12, 2022 • 12:31:34pm

re: #26 Hecuba’s daughter

TBF (and that’s hard for this vile man) much of this may not be his personal fault:

1. The tax cut was a GOP policy, not his. He supported it but any Republican president would have done the same.
2. One can argue Trump’s responsibility for the existence of the pandemic itself. But if we adopt the theory that it would have happened anyway without his documented negligence, the skyrocketing deficit in the last year was due to efforts to ward off the economic collapse that was a byproduct of this catastrophe.

I agree with this. But I’m ok with using him as the symbol of the whole rotten enterprise.

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Charles Johnson  May 12, 2022 • 12:32:42pm
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wrenchwench  May 12, 2022 • 12:34:42pm

re: #57 Barefoot Grin

I agree with this. But I’m ok with using him as the symbol of the whole rotten enterprise.

As the most recent member of his Party to serve as President, he officially represents the whole rotten enterprise.

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Barefoot Grin  May 12, 2022 • 12:38:00pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

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This is a thorough and informative refutation of that numbskull’s argument (if it can be called that).

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Captain Magic  May 12, 2022 • 12:39:50pm

“Appeals court rules Texas social media law can proceed” [Protocol]. “Despite no prior history of courts and lawmakers treating social media as “common carriers” the way phone companies are, and the clear Supreme Court precedent arguing against government interference with internet content, some conservatives have increasingly argued for treating platforms that host user-generated content similarly.”

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sagehen  May 12, 2022 • 12:41:21pm

re: #55 Belafon

My favorite Republican is Abraham Lincoln.

Teddy Roosevelt.
Dwight David Eisenhower.
Margaret Chase Smith.
Pete Mccloskey.

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sagehen  May 12, 2022 • 12:43:22pm

OOH!! how could I have forgotten Ulysses S Grant.

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2022 • 12:44:34pm
Once, when a conservative male congressman attacked a piece of women’s rights legislation by saying, “I’ve always thought of women as kissable, cuddly, and smelling good,” Fenwick responded, “That’s what I’ve always thought about men, and I hope for your sake that you haven’t been disappointed as many times as I’ve been.”[15]

—above wiki

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wrenchwench  May 12, 2022 • 12:47:09pm

re: #62 sagehen

Teddy Roosevelt.
Dwight David Eisenhower.
Margaret Chase Smith.
Pete Mccloskey.

Pete McCloskey, still with us at 94. Long enough for me to reassess an old opinion. Thanks.

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jaunte  May 12, 2022 • 12:50:23pm
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Belafon  May 12, 2022 • 12:51:03pm

re: #61 Captain Magic

“Appeals court rules Texas social media law can proceed” [Protocol]. “Despite no prior history of courts and lawmakers treating social media as “common carriers” the way phone companies are, and the clear Supreme Court precedent arguing against government interference with internet content, some conservatives have increasingly argued for treating platforms that host user-generated content similarly.”

Someone will need to sue Fox for turning comments off on its website.

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wrenchwench  May 12, 2022 • 12:51:14pm

re: #65 wrenchwench

Pete McCloskey, still with us at 94. Long enough for me to reassess an old opinion. Thanks.

Him, too. He’s a Democrat now.

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Eventual Carrion  May 12, 2022 • 12:55:21pm

re: #66 jaunte

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At least their bellies will be full when they die from the bacterial infection.

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ericblair  May 12, 2022 • 1:02:56pm

re: #69 Eventual Carrion

At least their bellies will be full when they die from the bacterial infection.

That’s the pro life party for you.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2022 • 1:03:56pm
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Sherlock Hound  May 12, 2022 • 1:05:56pm

re: #41 Dopamine Fish

I was going to suggest that MTG should volunteer herself as a wet nurse.
Unfortunately, the dictionary definition for “tit, witch’s” is MTG herself!
//

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wrenchwench  May 12, 2022 • 1:06:46pm

Mood.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  May 12, 2022 • 1:10:16pm

Tomorrow’s hole is a par 3.

Click to Reveal

Wordle 328 3/6

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Data: 3,3,3,3,5

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wrenchwench  May 12, 2022 • 1:13:34pm

re: #68 wrenchwench

Him, too. He’s a Democrat now.

My favorite comment, that I made, ever. Right there ^. More than 45 years ago, I stuffed envelopes for that guy because my boyfriend’s father was campaigning for him, and it was a kitchen table project. I can stop being ashamed, now.

[///lots of overstatement]

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2022 • 1:16:32pm
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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  May 12, 2022 • 1:22:00pm

re: #53 Decatur Deb

That’s less than a Figgy Fizz bottle cap.
muppet.fandom.com

Shiba is currently trading at $0.00001094 per coin.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2022 • 1:25:11pm

re: #77 The GOP is a terrorist organization

One TEN THOUSANDTH of a cent?? Do I have that right?

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 12, 2022 • 1:25:16pm
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Charles Johnson  May 12, 2022 • 1:27:16pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  May 12, 2022 • 1:33:14pm

re: #66 jaunte

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steve_davis  May 12, 2022 • 1:35:46pm

re: #33 Decatur Deb

That was probably the best episode in the series. Won’t spoil.

there are just so many masterful moments. later, when tony is basically telling-not telling ralph to whack the kid, even though ralph is tentatively saying his judgement is to give the kid a pass, because of course he knows without saying that he’s responsible for the kid holding up the card game: “Oh, I believe this belongs to you,” handing Ralph the gun that Ralph had given to Jimmy, planting even deeper the seed that the kid needs to be taken down. Really deep psychology going on. Love it.

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Florida Panhandler  May 12, 2022 • 1:35:48pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

Next on the docket will be to somehow round up all those unicorns. And then send an expedition to catch a Leprechan so that we can balance the budget and build the wall when we make him find that pot of gold.

The horseshoe Left is just as responsible for this embarrassment as the Right is.

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2022 • 1:37:25pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

House panel will hold first public hearing on UFOs in decades

Maybe they’ll hold it on a UFO. One can hope.

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Charles Johnson  May 12, 2022 • 1:41:32pm

Are these my only options?

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  May 12, 2022 • 1:42:44pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

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Right wing radio has really picked up the UFO message the last few years. This is after the internet nearly destroyed the ufool exploitation industry by giving at least potential access to the skeptical side of the story, something the monopoly media had pointedly avoided in their traditionally credulous treatment of the subject.
Incidentally, nearly every prominent ufool, like nearly every prominent evangelical, has a line of supplements and suppressed miracle vitamins.

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Dopamine Fish  May 12, 2022 • 1:44:14pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

Are these my only options?

4 is actually the most likely option, because information compartmentalization is absolutely a thing.

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Charles Johnson  May 12, 2022 • 1:45:39pm
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Hecuba's daughter  May 12, 2022 • 1:47:32pm

re: #83 Florida Panhandler

Next on the docket will be to somehow round up all those unicorns. And then send an expedition to catch a Leprechan so that we can balance the budget and build the wall when we make him find that pot of gold.

The horseshoe Left is just as responsible for this embarrassment as the Right is.

This isn’t a left-right issue; and it’s one that will not generate the same political animosity as practically any other topic. You can find people on all sides of the political spectrum supporting or opposing the possibility. Harry Reid, who was no radical, was a believer.

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Charles Johnson  May 12, 2022 • 1:49:14pm
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nines09  May 12, 2022 • 1:49:32pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2022 • 1:50:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2022 • 1:57:47pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2022 • 1:57:47pm

re: #86 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

I00,000,000 people are running around with 12-megapixel cameras. If there were a ship out there, we would have a good count on the number of rivets by now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2022 • 1:59:42pm
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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2022 • 2:00:50pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

See, election fraud is real.

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Belafon  May 12, 2022 • 2:03:30pm

re: #96 Decatur Deb

See, election fraud is real.

And because Republicans are doing it, Democrats must be stopped from breaking the law and voting.

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Florida Panhandler  May 12, 2022 • 2:04:28pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just a little taste of what we have in store this Fall by Republicans. And the total free-for-all by them in 2024.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  May 12, 2022 • 2:05:49pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

Are these my only options?

[Embedded content]

Ufoolishness isn’t primary woo, that is, it is not peddled primarily for direct profit from the material itself, though this can still be substantial. It is, rather, a hook, a device for attracting the kind of credulous but arrogant audience that is receptive to a variety of other scams. UFO publications and website swarm with ads for supplements, vitamins, magic penis growth programs, suppressed technology, get rich quick scams of every kind and, of course, whacko cults.

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Belafon  May 12, 2022 • 2:06:04pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

Reporters did their jobs. Move them to DC.

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William Lewis  May 12, 2022 • 2:09:26pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

Are these my only options?

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Eventual Carrion  May 12, 2022 • 2:09:45pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

So, if 5 years in prison for submitting a provisional ballot you thought you were entitled to is the guideline sentencing, this should be worth 20-30 years.

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2022 • 2:12:33pm

re: #99 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

I do know two very reliable reality-based people who had UFO experiences. One was mild “lights-in-the-sky”, the other described a craft outside our tech. Both were almost certainly wrong. People make mistakes.

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Belafon  May 12, 2022 • 2:14:52pm

re: #101 William Lewis

Some of these deal with instrument readings and pictures.

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Florida Panhandler  May 12, 2022 • 2:20:02pm

re: #103 Decatur Deb

I do know two very reliable reality-based people who had UFO experiences. One was mild “lights-in-the-sky”, the other described a craft outside our tech. Both were almost certainly wrong. People make mistakes.

People also lie and tell stories. This includes Navy pilots. This includes government officials. There are various reasons as to why people in positions of responsibility lie, or are genuinely mistaken in their observations.

The burden of proof relies on those who “witness” things. I’ll choose to side on the Laws of Physics and the realities of distance, energy, gravity and civilization burnout which means the chances of anything coming here to us is pretty much Zero.

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2022 • 2:20:19pm

re: #104 Belafon

Some of these deal with instrument readings and pictures.

After they shut down Blue Book, the USAF hired a credible scientist to do a review. He came up with a very small number of ‘unexplainables’. That’s exactly what an honest look had to come up with, whether anything exotic is involved or not.

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2022 • 2:28:13pm

re: #105 Florida Panhandler

… the chances of anything coming here to us is pretty much Zero.

That’s the bottom line. If there is any intrusion happening, it’s not coming from outer space, it’s coming from outside our math and cosmology.

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Barefoot Grin  May 12, 2022 • 2:29:28pm

re: #94 Decatur Deb

I00,000,000 people are running around with 12-megapixel cameras. If there were a ship out there, we would have a good count on the number of rivets by now.

No one looks up anymore.

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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  May 12, 2022 • 2:31:32pm

re: #78 Eclectic Cyborg

One TEN THOUSANDTH of a cent?? Do I have that right?

Yes you do.

If it rises to 51 cents per coin, I’ll be a millionare.


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