Larnell Lewis and a Stellar Band: “Sharifa the Great”

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Larnell Lewis performs ‘Sharifa The Great’ by Joy Lapps with his Yamaha PHX drum setup.

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Larnell’s Set Up for this performance:
PHX in Textured Natural Ash 22x16”R”, 10x7, 12x8, 16x15
RRS1365 - Recording Custom Brass 13 x6.5 main snare
RBS1480 SOB - Recording Custom 14x8 auxiliary snare/tom in Solid Black
Customized Hexrack with 2 x HXCP36 extensions to hold snare baskets
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XP125TX RW 2-zone TCS pad in Real Wood

Band:
Larnell Lewis - Drums
Joy Lapps - Steelpan
Jeremy Ledbetter – Keyboard
Elmer Ferrer - Guitar
Andrew Stewart - Bass
Rob Christian – Flute

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334 comments
1
Crush White Nationalism  May 24, 2022 • 6:39:38pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  May 24, 2022 • 6:39:50pm

First thing that occurred to me was how cheaply these bastards sell out.

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Dopamine Fish  May 24, 2022 • 6:47:51pm

Here’s the right-wing talking point for tomorrow:

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Crush White Nationalism  May 24, 2022 • 6:57:22pm

I’m slightly relieved that grandma did not buy the guns for the killer. It’s still an utter horror show of course.

‘Kids Be Scared’: Texas School Gunman Bought Two Rifles on His 18th Birthday

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2022 • 6:57:50pm

re: #4 Crush White Nationalism

I can’t help but wonder if she got killed when she tried to stop him.

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Crush White Nationalism  May 24, 2022 • 7:00:43pm

re: #3 Dopamine Fish

Here’s the right-wing talking point for tomorrow:

They disabled replies but you can Tweet at their account.

I think it’s a one-woman operation, and I’m reporting the racist to the racist.

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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  May 24, 2022 • 7:01:22pm



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The Pie Overlord!  May 24, 2022 • 7:03:17pm

Report this Tweet claiming the shooter is a trans person:

Click to Reveal
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Dangerman  May 24, 2022 • 7:05:48pm

He did not break this “multiplicity” of laws all by himself.
He had help.
Enablers.

What is wrong with finding everyone who abetted in any way and throwing the book at all of them?
they all broke the law too. if he did, they did.
and You just said he did.
Prosecuting them would have no effect on you.

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Dopamine Fish  May 24, 2022 • 7:07:30pm

re: #9 Dangerman

He did not break this “multiplicity” of laws all by himself.
He had help.
Enablers.

What is wrong with finding everyone who abetted in any way and throwing the book at all of them?
they all broke the law too. if he did, they did.
and You just said he did.
Prosecuting them would have no effect on you.

Hey Ben: WHAT LAWS WERE BROKEN? He bought his own guns. He was 18. He passed a background check. He did nothing wrong according to the laws that you idiots refuse to change until the moment he pulled the trigger. Fuck off with that shit, and besides - you assholes don’t even want to enforce the laws you DO allow to stay on the books. Fuck all the way off, and then keep fucking off.

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BigPapa  May 24, 2022 • 7:08:18pm

The Law and Order crowd who says more gun laws won’t do anything want people arrested and locked up for emails. I agree, laws against sedition and corruption don’t do anything.

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Crush White Nationalism  May 24, 2022 • 7:11:45pm

re: #9 Dangerman

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The Pie Overlord!  May 24, 2022 • 7:13:32pm
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Captain Ron  May 24, 2022 • 7:15:55pm

That many, huh. That’s almost 11%

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Belafon  May 24, 2022 • 7:17:19pm

You might recognize the name:

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Crush White Nationalism  May 24, 2022 • 7:20:11pm

re: #14 Captain Ron

That many, huh. That’s almost 11%

Take a look at the replies. He’s cheered on by garbage-people who want to abandon Ukraine. That’s where his narcissistic supply comes from these days.

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mmmirele  May 24, 2022 • 7:20:20pm

It’s days like today where I want to be somewhere else besides the USA. The sheer murderousness of some people, so many people, it unnerves the hell out of me.

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calochortus  May 24, 2022 • 7:25:56pm

re: #17 mmmirele

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It’s days like today where I want to be somewhere else besides the USA. The sheer murderousness of some people, so many people, it unnerves the hell out of me.

I know. Also those days where people are trying to make life more difficult for those who aren’t like them. Why??? Life is not a zero sum game.

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Patricia Kayden  May 24, 2022 • 7:26:43pm

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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  May 24, 2022 • 7:31:14pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  May 24, 2022 • 7:32:31pm

re: #1 Crush White Nationalism

“I was hopeful that you would try to unite us. You couldn’t do it.”

“National unity” was how the ex-confederates managed to sell Jim Crow and their “Lost Cause” fantasy. It was a holy grail that was filled with rotten sewage. I remember how a Northern newspaper headlined the news of Appomattox: “Treason and slavery buried in the same grave.”
Within 50 years, though, the Confederate slavers had not only re-integrated themselves into society, and excluded the freed slaves, they had made their hateful cause a beloved episode of American history. This happened largely because, in the name of unity, the rest of the country was willing to go along with the ex-Confederates and overlook their cruelty and opppression.

Earlier today, there was a discussion of the new names recommended for Confederate-named military installations. A lot of these names were bestowed in the first place because the federal government was looking at southern locations for a number of new training camps during World War I. The Civil War was still well within living memory and there was some fear that local whites might not be supportive of hordes of yankee troops in their midst. The selection of rebel names helped soothe their wounded pride, always and forever the main consideration with Confederates.

Much later, in the early 60s, two of the first generation nuclear ballistic missile submarines were named for Confederate officers, USS Stonewall Jackson (SSBN-634) and USS Robert E. Lee (SSBN-601). This was at about the time of the Civil War Centenniel, much of which was a Disneyesque love-fest for the Lost Cause. It also coincided with the first great wave of the Civil Rights movement, and the dismantling of the Lost Cause mythology and its influence, a process that continues to this day.

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A Mom Anon  May 24, 2022 • 7:35:30pm

Lawrence ODonnell just reported 19 children and two adults dead in today’s mass murder.

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ckkatz  May 24, 2022 • 7:38:47pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  May 24, 2022 • 7:39:23pm

re: #13 The Pie Overlord!

This is true, it is what these weapons do, especially to a small body. Osama bin Laden, a grown man 6’4” tall, was so disfigured by 5.56 bullets that they wouldn’t release the pictures.

Maybe they should publish the forensic photos from Uvalde, and bring the little bodies to the steps of the Capitol and unwrap them so the Congress scum can see their handiwork.

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ckkatz  May 24, 2022 • 7:40:31pm

I wonder if this is how tfg chose who to endorse:

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 24, 2022 • 7:45:07pm

re: #192 DodgerFan1988

I’ve never researched her family tree, but I fear she is a not too distant relative.

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That entire region of the country really is fighting against modernity. The world has passed them by… and some of them know it. Either they then become resentful and apocalyptic, or they try to do something (like move away?)

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retired cynic  May 24, 2022 • 7:45:29pm

re: #8 The Pie Overlord!

Report this Tweet claiming the shooter is a trans person:

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already gone

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Sherlock Hound  May 24, 2022 • 7:47:27pm

re: #24 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

This is true, it is what these weapons do, especially to a small body. Osama bin Laden, a grown man 6’4” tall, was so disfigured by 5.56 bullets that they wouldn’t release the pictures.

Maybe they should the forensic photos from Uvalde, and bring the little bodies to the steps of the Capitol and unwrap them so the Congress scum can see their handiwork.

Emmett Till’s mom performed a necessary, if striking, deed in showing her dead son in his casket.

But I fear the only ones who will be shocked, are those who already would not and could not shoot down children. The Republicans are inhuman and will not respond to gore, judging from the gory fetus photos they obsess over.

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Patricia Kayden  May 24, 2022 • 7:48:34pm

re: #22 A Mom Anon

Lawrence ODonnell just reported 19 children and two adults dead in today’s mass murder.

GOP: Is the gun okay?

Imagine arguing against gun control when children are being murdered by shooters on a regular basis and then calling yourself the Party of Life. Sigh.

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ckkatz  May 24, 2022 • 7:52:39pm

“Burn Proof Edition”:

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Crush White Nationalism  May 24, 2022 • 7:54:01pm
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retired cynic  May 24, 2022 • 8:10:04pm

New

stonekettle.com

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austin_blue  May 24, 2022 • 8:19:20pm

I am so battered by the number of these mass shootings that I have become comfortably numb.

HAHAHA! Not even.

I am absolutely enraged that we will do nothing to stop this ridiculous slaughter. I want anyone in the Senate who prevents fundamental change to be targeted with Gates-level money to be defeated.

Or poisoned. I hear monkeypox is a thing. Maybe umbrella tips.

Probably cheaper than trying to defeat them at the polls with Gates-level money given the level of MAGAt idiocy.

How did we get here?

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jaunte  May 24, 2022 • 8:30:15pm
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austin_blue  May 24, 2022 • 8:35:14pm

I’m out. Night all, I just can’t even.

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retired cynic  May 24, 2022 • 8:35:45pm

Billions of Fireflies Light Up an Indian Wildlife Reserve in Rare Footage Captured by Sriram Murali
thisiscolossal.com

Gorgeous photos and a nice 5 minute clip with music written to go with the lights.

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jaunte  May 24, 2022 • 8:47:51pm
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Amory Blaine  May 24, 2022 • 8:54:06pm

“fervently” doing not a god damned thing.

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retired cynic  May 24, 2022 • 8:54:49pm

re: #38 Amory Blaine

makes it different from last year

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A Mom Anon  May 24, 2022 • 8:59:24pm

re: #24 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Someone on tv earlier said that Emmett Till’s mother insisted on having an open casket so everyone could see what they did to her son. Most parents are too grief stricken to do that, for obvious reasons.

A huge part of the problem here is how people picture real gun violence in their heads. They see a movie version of that reality, not the actual horror left behind by weapons of war. If they had to stare it in the face, they might be more hesitant to run their stupid mouths.

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jaunte  May 24, 2022 • 9:01:43pm
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jaunte  May 24, 2022 • 9:10:03pm
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ckkatz  May 24, 2022 • 9:12:10pm
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ckkatz  May 24, 2022 • 9:14:04pm
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Amory Blaine  May 24, 2022 • 9:21:52pm

Mold of Hendrix’s Dong to Be Featured In Icelandic Wiener Museum

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jaunte  May 24, 2022 • 9:27:17pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  May 24, 2022 • 9:27:32pm

19 children (wash post).

fuck the NRA

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Amory Blaine  May 24, 2022 • 9:33:14pm

Youtube Video

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jaunte  May 24, 2022 • 9:35:49pm

re: #48 Amory Blaine

Pretty dead-on Ira Glass impression.

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jaunte  May 24, 2022 • 9:37:14pm
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jaunte  May 24, 2022 • 9:37:48pm
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JC1  May 24, 2022 • 9:42:22pm

re: #2 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

First thing that occurred to me was how cheaply these bastards sell out.

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It’s not just the money. It’s the votes. A lot of people have been brainwashed to reflexively vote against anyone proposing even the most minimum of restrictions on guns.

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retired cynic  May 24, 2022 • 9:53:18pm

Great. It’s catching.

Turkey’s President No Longer Recognizes Greece’s Leader
Turkey president Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said he “no longer recognized the existence of the leader of neighboring Greece and would not meet him at a planned summit this year, threatening to deepen a crisis within NATO over Turkey’s opposition to the alliance’s expansion,” the Financial Times reports.
politicalwire.com

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Belafon  May 24, 2022 • 9:55:27pm
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Captain Ron  May 24, 2022 • 10:00:43pm

re: #53 retired cynic

Can we nuke Constantinople?

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Hecuba's daughter  May 24, 2022 • 10:03:55pm

re: #54 Belafon

Working just fine to get Republicans elected. Not solving our problems.

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jaunte  May 24, 2022 • 10:05:30pm
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jaunte  May 24, 2022 • 10:08:07pm
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Hecuba's daughter  May 24, 2022 • 10:14:56pm

Words

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  May 24, 2022 • 10:23:11pm

re: #40 A Mom Anon

Someone on tv earlier said that Emmett Till’s mother insisted on having an open casket so everyone could see what they did to her son. Most parents are too grief stricken to do that, for obvious reasons.

A huge part of the problem here is how people picture real gun violence in their heads. They see a movie version of that reality, not the actual horror left behind by weapons of war. If they had to stare it in the face, they might be more hesitant to run their stupid mouths.

Way back in 2011 I posted a description of being shot (unintentionally) in 1982. I didn’t describe what the wound looked like. The wound I could see, the entry, was a jagged red crater nearly an inch wide, with an enormous yellow bruise around it, turning purple toward the edge. The bruise went all the way through my leg, since the bullet path had. It took a month to heal and there is a prominent scar to this day.
Since I survived I was more concerned in retrospect with the pain. Gunshot wounds hurt a lot and this too needs emphasis because the media do an especially bad job of portraying it accurately. It is horrible, like “someone had jammed a red-hot poker through my leg and was twisting it,” and it goes on and on. They can’t give you enough drugs to control it, for fear of addiction. It took about two weeks for it to become bearable. It still hurts once in a while, especially when the weather changes.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  May 24, 2022 • 10:36:47pm

I will now scream and flip my desk into the sun.

The heedless hyenas at the gun superstore Cheaper Than Dirt just sent me a new email ad. (I get their blurbs because I occasionally buy ammunition from them.) It included this graphic:

Yeah, gang, that’s what we all need, upgrades for our AR-15s. Fuck these people with a rusty chainsaw. I’ll get ammo somewhere else if I can find a non-lunatic source.

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jaunte  May 24, 2022 • 10:41:10pm

This is for the kids who die,
Black and white,
For kids will die certainly.
The old and rich will live on awhile,
As always,
Eating blood and gold,
Letting kids die.

Kids will die in the swamps of Mississippi
Organizing sharecroppers
Kids will die in the streets of Chicago
Organizing workers
Kids will die in the orange groves of California
Telling others to get together
Whites and Filipinos,
Negroes and Mexicans,
All kinds of kids will die
Who don’t believe in lies, and bribes, and contentment
And a lousy peace.

Of course, the wise and the learned
Who pen editorials in the papers,
And the gentlemen with Dr. in front of their names
White and black,
Who make surveys and write books
Will live on weaving words to smother the kids who die,
And the sleazy courts,
And the bribe-reaching police,
And the blood-loving generals,
And the money-loving preachers
Will all raise their hands against the kids who die,
Beating them with laws and clubs and bayonets and bullets
To frighten the people—
For the kids who die are like iron in the blood of the people—
And the old and rich don’t want the people
To taste the iron of the kids who die,
Don’t want the people to get wise to their own power,
To believe an Angelo Herndon, or even get together

Listen, kids who die—
Maybe, now, there will be no monument for you
Except in our hearts
Maybe your bodies’ll be lost in a swamp
Or a prison grave, or the potter’s field,
Or the rivers where you’re drowned like Leibknecht

But the day will come—
You are sure yourselves that it is coming—
When the marching feet of the masses
Will raise for you a living monument of love,
And joy, and laughter,
And black hands and white hands clasped as one,
And a song that reaches the sky—
The song of the life triumphant
Through the kids who die.

–Langston Hughes

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jaunte  May 24, 2022 • 10:47:05pm
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wrenchwench  May 24, 2022 • 10:50:42pm
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jaunte  May 24, 2022 • 10:55:22pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2022 • 10:59:30pm

Not great, not bad.

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wrenchwench  May 24, 2022 • 11:01:11pm
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CleverToad  May 24, 2022 • 11:19:07pm

re: #65 jaunte

My niece is a 6th grade teacher in Ft Worth.

Shaking with fear and anger and frustration tonight, for all of the aunts, and the sisters, and God help us the mothers. I may need to sign off and shut out the news for a few days again, for sanity’s sake.

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ckkatz  May 24, 2022 • 11:28:28pm

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And the list goes on and on…

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 25, 2022 • 12:04:36am

re: #69 ckkatz

And as soon as they can, they’ll gin up some new bullshit controversy and this shooting will be out of the headlines.

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William Lewis  May 25, 2022 • 1:46:33am

Vacation time is coming to a close. Leaving for the airport in minutes. Sigh. Not looking forward to getting back at it.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  May 25, 2022 • 2:09:49am

re: #43 ckkatz

The cops waited outside because they were “scared”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2022 • 2:27:14am

re: #16 Crush White Nationalism

Take a look at the replies. He’s cheered on by garbage-people who want to abandon Ukraine. That’s where his narcissistic supply comes from these days.

Accountability is a good thing, but aiding the Ukrainian people is paramount.

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William Lewis  May 25, 2022 • 3:08:44am

Getting caught up on the latest NRA fueled atrocity.

18 year old buying rifles. The corrupt courts prevent doing anything about that.

Nonwhite shooter, so executed on the scene as usual.

Typical Blue Thug whining about being “scared”. I’m sorry but any fucking pretend cop doing or not doing something because of that excuse should be instantly fired.

Not sure if it would help in America but I really believe we need a gun license like in the Czech Republic: training in firearms use and safety, training in first aid and psych eval before you can get a license. Once you have it, buy what you want but damn it, show you aren’t a nutcase and know what you are doing. Half the idiots I see at ranges should not be able to own guns.

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2022 • 3:14:18am

re: #74 William Lewis

Gun laws in the Czech Republic in many respects differ from those in other European Union member states (see Gun laws in the European Union). The “right to acquire, keep and bear firearm” is explicitly recognized in the first Article of the Firearms Act. At the constitutional level, the Charter of Fundamental Rights and Freedoms includes the “right to defend own life or life of another person also with arms under conditions stipulated by law”.

A gun in the Czech Republic is available to anybody subject to acquiring a firearms license. Gun licenses may be obtained in a way similar to a driving license - by passing a gun proficiency exam, medical examination and having a clean criminal record. Unlike in most other European countries, the Czech gun legislation also permits a citizen to carry a concealed weapon for self-defense - 252,245 out of 308,990 gun license holders have a concealed carry permit (31 Dec 2021). The most common reason for firearm possession by Czech gun owners is for protection, with hunting and sport shooting being less common.

That bolded part is about as close to the Second Amendment as pretty much any European nation has. And here’s the rest of the laws, per Wiki:

en.wikipedia.org

I’ve seen people in the US toting guns who, quite frankly, shouldn’t be allowed to posses anything more dangerous than a wooden butter knife from IKEA.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2022 • 3:15:13am

A “Well Regulated Militia” being too complex and abstract a concept for ammo fetishists and gun-humpers to understand, we will concentrate solely on the “Right To Bear Arms” aspect of gun rights…

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William Lewis  May 25, 2022 • 3:20:20am

re: #75 Dr Lizardo

I use the Czech example because they have a gun culture similar to the US with a decent set of laws that would not bother legitimate owners here.

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2022 • 3:24:10am

re: #77 William Lewis

I use the Czech example because they have a gun culture similar to the US with a decent set of laws that would not bother legitimate owners here.

I know several people who have a firearms license and conceal carry. There isn’t a single one of them whom I’d describe as sketchy.

And those people I know are genuinely shocked at the utter permissiveness of firearms regulations in the US. I’ve heard it likened to Somalia or “heavily-armed anarchy”.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  May 25, 2022 • 3:29:45am

One of the most effective things we *could* do to limit firearms deaths would be “red flag” laws to stop people with histories of documented violent threats, domestic violence, actual violence, etc from owning guns. However, such a law would disarm American police officers (up to 40% by some counts) so that will never happen.

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2022 • 3:33:47am

re: #79 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

One of the most effective things we *could* do to limit firearms deaths would be “red flag” laws to stop people with histories of documented violent threats, domestic violence, actual violence, etc from owning guns. However, such a law would disarm American police officers (up to 40% by some counts) so that will never happen.

Well, now that’s just too bad.

Boo fuckin’ hoo.

Someone with a history of domestic violence, making violent threats, perpetrating actual violence, etc., has no business whatsoever carrying a badge. End of story.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  May 25, 2022 • 3:35:10am

re: #80 Dr Lizardo

Someone with a history of domestic violence, making violent threats, perpetrating actual violence, etc., has no business whatsoever carrying a badge.

I regret to inform you… etc.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2022 • 3:37:19am

re: #80 Dr Lizardo

Well, now that’s just too bad.

Boo fuckin’ hoo.

Someone with a history of domestic violence, making violent threats, perpetrating actual violence, etc., has no business whatsoever carrying a badge. End of story.

The Army had a similar regulation preventing anyone with a history of domestic violence from carrying a sidearm. Mind you, they could still drive a tank, crew a howitzer or control a rocket battery, just not carry a pistol…

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2022 • 3:41:19am

re: #82 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Army had a similar regulation preventing anyone with a history of domestic violence from carrying a sidearm. Mind you, they could still drive a tank, crew a howitzer or control a rocket battery, just not carry a pistol…

Fair enough, but when was the last time you heard about a disgruntled boyfriend or hubby going on a rampage with a howitzer or a tank (aside from that killdozer loony about 20 years ago)?

Now that I think about it, there was someone that did indeed steal a tank from an Army base and went on a batshit crazy joyride before he was finally stopped, but now I don’t remember all the circumstances of that incident.

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TarHellion  May 25, 2022 • 3:47:06am

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HRH Stanley Sea  May 25, 2022 • 3:51:57am

At least I got the elusive wordle salad

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HRH Stanley Sea  May 25, 2022 • 3:53:14am

re: #83 Dr Lizardo

Fair enough, but when was the last time you heard about a disgruntled boyfriend or hubby going on a rampage with a howitzer or a tank (aside from that killdozer loony about 20 years ago)?

Now that I think about it, there was someone that did indeed steal a tank from an Army base and went on a batshit crazy joyride before he was finally stopped, but now I don’t remember all the circumstances of that incident.

Methhead in San Diego.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 25, 2022 • 3:55:30am

re: #79 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

One of the most effective things we *could* do to limit firearms deaths would be “red flag” laws to stop people with histories of documented violent threats, domestic violence, actual violence, etc from owning guns. However, such a law would disarm American police officers (up to 40% by some counts) so that will never happen.

Let’s start with closing the gun show loophole.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2022 • 3:57:34am

re: #87 Eclectic Cyborg

Let’s start with closing the gun show loophole.

And enacting tighter liability laws for people who deal, trade or otherwise handle guns in any way that enables them to be used in a shooting or other crime.

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2022 • 3:58:52am

re: #86 HRH Stanley Sea

Methhead in San Diego.

That was the incident. I remember seeing it on live TV.

en.wikipedia.org

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2022 • 4:00:53am

re: #87 Eclectic Cyborg

Let’s start with closing the gun show loophole.

I took my Czech ex-wife to a gun show up in Portland, OR and her jaw was on the damn floor. She couldn’t believe what she was seeing - she told me, “Jesus Christ, there’s more guns here than the entire Czech Army has!” She was genuinely shocked.

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HRH Stanley Sea  May 25, 2022 • 4:09:47am

re: #89 Dr Lizardo

That was the incident. I remember seeing it on live TV.

en.wikipedia.org

My friend met the cop who shot him. He carried a business card that said he shot tank guy.

Gross

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Dr. Matt  May 25, 2022 • 4:15:58am

re: #58 jaunte

We actually live in a country where a huge part of the population, when they hear about the slaughter of even more children, have as their first thought “You’re not taking my guns!” Sociopaths.

The alternative first thoughts are:

“This is the fault of democrats and their immigration laws”

“This is the fault of democrats for taking prayer and bible out of schools.”

“This is the fault of democrats and their CRT”

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 25, 2022 • 4:16:00am

re: #90 Dr Lizardo

I took my Czech ex-wife to a gun show up in Portland, OR and her jaw was on the damn floor. She couldn’t believe what she was seeing - she told me, “Jesus Christ, there’s more guns here than the entire Czech Army has!” She was genuinely shocked.

I was just thinking that something could set me off in the morning and by dinner time, I could be in possession of an arsenal that would let me easily kill a dozen or more people.

I wonder in how many other countries that would be possible?

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Dr. Matt  May 25, 2022 • 4:22:06am

Oh FFS.

And he has a real chance of being elected.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 25, 2022 • 4:27:10am

re: #94 Dr. Matt

Oh FFS.

And he has a real chance of being elected.

I see his Trumpspeak courses have been paying off.

/

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2022 • 4:28:03am

re: #94 Dr. Matt

“What I like to do is see it and everything and stuff.”

LOL what does that even mean? It’s literally just words strung together. 🙄

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Decatur Deb  May 25, 2022 • 4:29:19am

re: #83 Dr Lizardo

Fair enough, but when was the last time you heard about a disgruntled boyfriend or hubby going on a rampage with a howitzer or a tank (aside from that killdozer loony about 20 years ago)?

Now that I think about it, there was someone that did indeed steal a tank from an Army base and went on a batshit crazy joyride before he was finally stopped, but now I don’t remember all the circumstances of that incident.

Ft Knox in the 70s. Had a bitch with the MPs, tried to flatten their station, took out a small PX instead.

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Decatur Deb  May 25, 2022 • 4:31:20am

re: #86 HRH Stanley Sea

Methhead in San Diego.

Different joyride than the guy at Knox. Happens rarely, but more often than you might think.

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gocart mozart  May 25, 2022 • 4:36:41am

This is the gun manufacturer of the shooter’s weapon of choice.

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2022 • 4:37:05am

re: #97 Decatur Deb

Ft Knox in the 70s. Had a bitch with the MPs, tried to flatten their station, took out a small PX instead.

Different than the one I recalled but that’s one I’ve absolutely never heard of.

Of course, there’s been crazy incidents here in Czech Republic, though they are mercifully rare. Indeed, the most (relatively) common type of mass-casualty violence tends to be family annihilation massacres, straight-up murder-suicides - that usually happens two or three times a year and it’s almost invariably in small towns or villages. The most recent happened in a small village in southwest Moravia, where a guy took an axe to his parents, his siblings and then hanged himself in the front yard.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2022 • 4:49:12am

re: #95 Eclectic Cyborg

I see his Trumpspeak courses have been paying off.

/

He knows what his target audience wants to hear, and he knows that the Press will simply report without commenting on how it is a clear indication of an unspeakably feeble intellect.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2022 • 4:50:02am

re: #98 Decatur Deb

Different joyride than the guy at Knox. Happens rarely, but more often than you might think.

I suspect the Army keeps a lot of incidents quiet and only reports on what happens in places where they are witnessed by the public…

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 25, 2022 • 4:51:33am

re: #99 gocart mozart

This is the gun manufacturer of the shooter’s weapon of choice.

That is fucking stupid.

There IS a right way to educate kids about firearms, but it has nothing to do with dropping an AR-15 in their lap.

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Decatur Deb  May 25, 2022 • 4:58:07am

re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I suspect the Army keeps a lot of incidents quiet and only reports on what happens in places where they are witnessed by the public…

Not much of that, unless it is embarrassing in some personal way. Army accident reports are protected under the FOIA to the extent that the investigator’s ability to gather testimony is preserved.

When I was getting out in 1967 the guy in the next bed was due to follow in a few days. By the time I got back to New York, the photos of his Mustang were on the front page of the Daily News. He stopped at a red light. The M60 behind him didn’t.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2022 • 5:00:33am

re: #104 Decatur Deb

Not much of that, unless it is embarrassing in some personal way. Army accident reports are protected under the FOIA

…unless the incident is somehow “classified”. This is the Armed Forces. They have ways of keeping a lid on things.

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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 5:00:43am

re: #79 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

One of the most effective things we *could* do to limit firearms deaths would be “red flag” laws to stop people with histories of documented violent threats, domestic violence, actual violence, etc from owning guns. However, such a law would disarm American police officers (up to 40% by some counts) so that will never happen.

There is no way to stop the next mass shooting.

“We” could take the owning and handling of all guns more seriously.

That includes storing, transporting, lending, cleaning, brandishing, *selling*.
Obvious demonstrable irresponsibility or loss of control.
Severe and strong enforcement.

What could easily be done is cutting down on irresponsible behavior and that side of the carnage curve.

And it would definitely also make some of the borderline merely careless people to be more careful.
It would have ZERO effect on the rest of us.
For some bizarre reason even that’s a bridge too far.

Its like advocating *for* other people to go out and drive drunk.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2022 • 5:01:56am

re: #106 Dangerman

We have a faulty understanding of the 2nd Amendment that has so embedded itself in our legislation and culture that it will take generations to change.

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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 5:03:33am

re: #92 Dr. Matt

The alternative first thoughts are:

Their first thought is never “it could have been my kid”

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Decatur Deb  May 25, 2022 • 5:04:37am

re: #105 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

…unless the incident is “classified” This is the Armed Forces. They have ways of keeping a lid on things.

Classification isn’t for convenience. A serious accident will trigger investigations by at least 3 competing internal agencies—MP, Accident Prevention, and the Commander’s AR15-6 ad-hoc investigation. They better all agree.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  May 25, 2022 • 5:06:25am

re: #106 Dangerman

Predictably, Dems will push for nonsense laws which are variously ineffective or outright unconstitutional. Meanwhile, Republicans will use fear of “gun control” to radicalize their base, playing to the goons who organize and express dreams of mass violence against their perceived enemies. One party with their head up their ass, bringing ice cream and cake to a knife fight, and another party actively urging their base to be prepared to kill. I think the vast majority of people (including gun owners) are not happy with any of this, but it doesn’t seem to matter at all.

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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 5:08:02am

re: #107 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We have a faulty understanding of the 2nd Amendment that has so embedded itself in our legislation and culture that it will take generations to change.

How we got to no personal responsibility at all amazes me.

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lawhawk  May 25, 2022 • 5:08:05am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Once again we learn of a mass shooting at a school that resulted in a double digit body count. GOP politicians are all thoughts and prayers while they sit there and collect their campaign contributions from the corrupted NRA that funneled Russian money directly to GOPers via Butina.

Have we lost track of all those scandals and money grubbing GOPers? Because the GOP is a tsunami of terrible thugs.

Gun violence claims over 40,000 Americans every year. We have more mass shootings than anywhere outside of a declared war zone. We have more mass shootings than any other country on the planet that isn’t currently a war zone. We have more mass shootings and garden variety shootings per capita than anywhere else.

It’s the fucking easy availability of guns where underage kids can get guns and murder or injure playmates, people under 21 can get guns and murder classrooms full of students and teachers, where those with mental illness can get guns no question asked, where people can get guns via straw sales or undeclared sales and background checks are done in a way that if it takes too long to get a response from the background check service, you’re considered approved.

The GOP and NRA have made sure that getting guns is easier than anything else, including getting a drivers license. That includes the kinds of guns that exist solely to murder other people. AR-15 type weapons serve just one purpose - to maximize the body count.

The GOP owns all this, and I claim we must act - not just on the events in Texas, but for every other mass shooting and person who died as a result of gun violence since Columbine, Sandy Hook, VA Tech, Binghamton, and the tens of thousands of incidents every fucking year that sends people to the hospital or morgue.

Thoughts and prayers do jack shit. It’s an excuse by those who have the ability to act to do nothing. Thoughts and prayers to who exactly? To the families of those who were murdered? That’s cold comfort.

Thoughts and prayers to a god? Which god? Because a merciful and just god would demand we act to reduce gun violence.

That leaves just a blood god that is vengeful, malicious, capricious, and malevolent.

Doesn’t seem like the god of compassion.

Fuck the GOP.

Oh, and the NRA is holding a confab in Texas coming up. The timing for that is … spectacular. They’ve got major speakers from Texas too: Cruz and Abbott.

That’ll be rich - listening to them attempting to comfort families whose kids were murdered and then attending the very group that seeks to make it even easier to kill kids in these scenarios with ever more powerful guns and less regulatory oversight.

One party is an obstructionist menace to life, and the other struggles to get out of its own shadow and can’t and wont stand up to the menace. Democrats must do more and better to take this political fight to the GOP. The GOP are out to dismantle society and maximize body counts - they did it with gun violence for decades, they’ve done it with covid, and they’ll keep doing it. The GOP aren’t pro life. They’re a death cult, and we should use that term explicitly. It’s a fascist death cult - use that term explicitly. It is a precise reflection of what the GOP is and represents.

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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 5:12:08am

re: #110 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Predictably, Dems will push for nonsense laws which are variously ineffective or outright unconstitutional. Meanwhile, Republicans will use fear of “gun control” to radicalize their base, playing to the goons who organize and express dreams of mass violence against their perceived enemies. One party with their head up their ass, bringing ice cream and cake to a knife fight, and another party actively urging their base to be prepared to kill. I think the vast majority of people (including gun owners) are not happy with any of this, but it doesn’t seem to matter at all.

It rests with responsible gun owners eventually finally deciding to cull the nutters from their own herd

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Belafon  May 25, 2022 • 5:18:24am

re: #110 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Predictably, Dems will push for nonsense laws which are variously ineffective or outright unconstitutional. Meanwhile, Republicans will use fear of “gun control” to radicalize their base, playing to the goons who organize and express dreams of mass violence against their perceived enemies. One party with their head up their ass, bringing ice cream and cake to a knife fight, and another party actively urging their base to be prepared to kill. I think the vast majority of people (including gun owners) are not happy with any of this, but it doesn’t seem to matter at all.

Unconstitutional because guns have more protections than a woman does according to this SCOTUS.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2022 • 5:19:51am

re: #114 Belafon

Unconstitutional because guns have more protections than a woman does according to this SCOTUS.

Well-regulated and malicious…

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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 5:25:22am

re: #115 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Well-regulated and malicious…

Guns specifically put in the 2a.
Women specifically not given the vote
QED

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2022 • 5:27:06am

re: #110 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

One party with their head up their ass, bringing ice cream and cake to a knife fight, and another party actively urging their base to be prepared to kill.

Maybe there’s too much “civility” being bandied about. It’s this kind of weird pacifism held as some sacred and lofty principle.

There can be no pacifism with people who have been conditioned into thinking that it’s fine and appropriate to inflict harm on those they disagree with.

And though it might be “uncivil”, well…..the one thing the RWNJ’s will definitely understand is the Schoolyard Rules. It’s how you deal with bullies, and let’s be blunt, that’s what these RWNJ’s are. For all their superheated rhetoric, once they get punched in the nose, like all bullies, they slink away to cry and snivel and whine in the corner.

After all, you don’t confront evil with milk and cookies. You confront evil with a clenched fist.

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lawhawk  May 25, 2022 • 5:32:03am

Invariably Shapiro rolls out the nonstop lies and obfuscations. Nothing he says is true or accurate, because we have empirical evidence showing that the problem is the accessibility and availability of guns - particularly the kinds like the AR-15.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2022 • 5:32:23am

re: #116 Dangerman

Guns specifically put in the 2a.
Women specifically not given the vote
QED

Women were not specifically given the vote because the concept of women voting was simply unheard of at the time of the Framers.

People were allowed to bear arms because the concept of people bearing weapons capable of mass mayhem in schools and other public places was unheard of.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2022 • 5:33:56am

re: #118 lawhawk

Invariably Shapiro rolls out the nonstop lies and obfuscations. Nothing he says is true or accurate, because we have empirical evidence showing that the problem is the accessibility and availability of guns - particularly the kinds like the AR-15.

If we want to go back to the Founders’ intentions, then allow only possession of single-shot flintlock muskets.

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Decatur Deb  May 25, 2022 • 5:34:20am

re: #119 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Women were not specifically given the vote because the concept of women voting was simply unheard of at the time of the Framers.

People were allowed to bear arms because the concept of people bearing weapons capable of mass mayhem in schools and other public places was unheard of.

When the 2nd was drafted, Pittsburgh was the wild and bloody frontier.

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Dopamine Fish  May 25, 2022 • 5:36:53am

re: #120 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If we want to go back to the Founders’ intentions, then allow only possession of single-shot flintlock muskets.

Don’t be absurd, that’s too literal. Constitutional originalism is only meant to go as far as we say it goes, because we have to allow for advances in modern technology - but not too many advances, because that would also be inconvenient to our selective narrative.

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Belafon  May 25, 2022 • 5:40:31am

re: #110 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Predictably, Dems will push for nonsense laws which are variously ineffective or outright unconstitutional. Meanwhile, Republicans will use fear of “gun control” to radicalize their base, playing to the goons who organize and express dreams of mass violence against their perceived enemies. One party with their head up their ass, bringing ice cream and cake to a knife fight, and another party actively urging their base to be prepared to kill. I think the vast majority of people (including gun owners) are not happy with any of this, but it doesn’t seem to matter at all.

70% of Americans are held hostage by 51 senators and no amount of yelling changes that because the 30% believe the deaths are God’s will.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  May 25, 2022 • 5:40:42am

re: #118 lawhawk

Ben Shapiro is a friggin idiot, but I disagree with your solution. An outright ban on “possession” of “assault weapons” would make the drug war look like the poster child for sane, sound, effective governance.

Such a ban would necessarily require police — the same police who routinely and with impunity murder unarmed civilians as a twitch reflex — to go house to house, kicking in doors, and ransacking dwellings looking for “assault weapons”. There are more guns than people in the US. Like it or not, we live where we live, and that’s the reality.

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2022 • 5:43:54am

In all the coverage of yesterday’s latest atrocity, this bit of news dropped:

A California state judge has rejected Tesla Inc’s (TSLA.O) bid to send a lawsuit alleging widespread sexual harassment at the company’s flagship assembly plant to private arbitration, allowing it to move forward in court.

California Superior Court Judge Stephen Kaus in Oakland denied Tesla’s motion to compel arbitration in a brief order on Monday.

In a written opinion released on Tuesday, Kaus said Tesla had improperly pressured the plaintiff, Jessica Barraza, to sign an arbitration agreement after she had already quit her previous job.

reuters.com

Just waiting on Elon Musk to call the judge a “pedo” or some bullshit….

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Dopamine Fish  May 25, 2022 • 5:45:24am

re: #124 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

There are ways to mitigate that requirement. The bigger problem is, implementing any of those mitigations would require VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE with those laws - and the culture of “molon labe” that we mock would absolutely NEVER allow the gun-humpers to voluntarily turn in their weapons. They would literally die first, as is implied in their motto. This whole culture of, “I own guns, and I will defend my personal individual right to own guns with my life, on the pretense that I am prepared to face down a literal army in order to resist a government I believe is unjust,” is what needs to change in order for us to get anywhere with gun legislation. It needs to come FIRST; once we’ve worked on changing the gun-fetish culture in this country, then we can elect legislators and appoint court justices who don’t believe in the absolute and unlimited individual right to own any kind of weapon, and that’s when we’ll finally see the madness end. But the culture isn’t going to change any time soon, because the NRA and the older white demographic that still holds the power (both government and media) are determined not to let that happen.

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Belafon  May 25, 2022 • 5:47:43am

re: #124 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Ben Shapiro is a friggin idiot, but I disagree with your solution. An outright ban on “possession” of “assault weapons” would make the drug war look like the poster child for sane, sound, effective governance.

Such a ban would necessarily require police — the same police who routinely and with impunity murder unarmed civilians as a twitch reflex — to go house to house, kicking in doors, and ransacking dwellings looking for “assault weapons”. There are more guns than people in the US. Like it or not, we live where we live, and that’s the reality.

How did they end machine guns in the 30s?

End their production, offer a buyback, make it expensive to sell and own one, and make it against the law to have one in a public place not in a locked container.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2022 • 5:50:00am

MORON LOBOTOMY!

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 25, 2022 • 5:50:07am

re: #118 lawhawk

What an idiot. The Uvalde killer got into a shootout with police but got into the school anyway!

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HRH Stanley Sea  May 25, 2022 • 5:56:24am
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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 5:58:48am

re: #118 lawhawk

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Invariably Shapiro rolls out the nonstop lies and obfuscations. Nothing he says is true or accurate, because we have empirical evidence showing that the problem is the accessibility and availability of guns - particularly the kinds like the AR-15.

So what Ben?
We do nothing at all?
what is your solution to protect and save all that precious lost life?

You’re willing to go all draconian with “abortion”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2022 • 5:59:00am

re: #130 HRH Stanley Sea

Putin at least provided some reason for attacking Ukraine rather than just “They are there!”

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mmmirele  May 25, 2022 • 6:00:02am

re: #41 jaunte

He’s not my rep after redistricting, Greg Stanton is. Greg was relatively mild in his criticism. I prefer Ruben.

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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 6:02:29am

re: #119 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Women were not specifically given the vote because the concept of women voting was simply unheard of at the time of the Framers.

People were allowed to bear arms because the concept of people bearing weapons capable of mass mayhem in schools and other public places was unheard of.

You’re going with what they intended
I’m going with what *i” decide they intended

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2022 • 6:03:18am

re: #128 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

MORON LOBOTOMY!

♫♬”Look for the Moron Label…“♪♫

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  May 25, 2022 • 6:04:22am

re: #126 Dopamine Fish

The way I think about it is thusly; I’m sure I’m an idiot so feel free to retort:

* It’s already illegal to use a gun to slaughter school children. There is no possible law that can make it more illegal than it already is. It was illegal to fill a rental truck full of ammonium nitrate and diesel, thereby turning it into a huge bomb outside a government building. I’m not sure if it was SPECIFICALLY illegal, but I am pretty sure that the law frowned upon deliberately flying a jetliner into an office building. And yet, here we are. The Boston marathon bombing was fully illegal from every possible angle, and yet it happened (and by the way, every single component of their bombs were fully legal and readily available). I am not advocating for “no laws”. I am saying that new laws will not solve anything.

* There are 400 million privately owned firearms in the US. Pass a law tomorrow banning all guns, and what you will have is 400 million guns circulating in the criminal underground.

* There are 10s of millions, possibly 100s of millions of legal gun owners in the US. The vast, vast majority would never think of using their guns in a crime. These people all vote, and do not wish to be made to feel like a pariah class simply because they own guns. Democrats ignore this, Republicans prey upon it.

* I think the cultural problem runs much, much deeper than simply being a “gun fetish culture”. As I’ve said before, I think the American culture (not the superficial stuff like our entertainment or hairdos) is a savage, bloodthirsty, spiteful, empathy-free culture that cannot be changed by simply banning guns or opening more mental health clinics.

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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 6:05:05am

re: #124 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Ben Shapiro is a friggin idiot, but I disagree with your solution. An outright ban on “possession” of “assault weapons” would make the drug war look like the poster child for sane, sound, effective governance.

Such a ban would necessarily require police — the same police who routinely and with impunity murder unarmed civilians as a twitch reflex — to go house to house, kicking in doors, and ransacking dwellings looking for “assault weapons”. There are more guns than people in the US. Like it or not, we live where we live, and that’s the reality.

That’s why I say forget the hardware.
Bring back responsibility.
Rights come with responsibilities.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2022 • 6:06:09am

re: #134 Dangerman

You’re going with what they intended
I’m going with what *i” decide they intended

Just like we should base American law on *your* interpretation of God’s Divine Laws as set forth in *your* version of the Bible.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2022 • 6:06:34am

re: #137 Dangerman

That’s why I say forget the hardware.
Bring back responsibility.
Rights come with responsibilities.

and Regulation

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mmmirele  May 25, 2022 • 6:07:30am

In other news, the court hearing in Arkansas for Josh Duggar’s sentencing starts at the bottom of the hour. It’s federal court, so will not be televised. Hard to say how long it will be before we know. I hope he gets the whole 20 years, then his last child will nearly be an adult by the time he gets out (assuming Josh only serves 85 percent of his sentence).

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  May 25, 2022 • 6:11:05am

re: #118 lawhawk

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Invariably Shapiro rolls out the nonstop lies and obfuscations. Nothing he says is true or accurate, because we have empirical evidence showing that the problem is the accessibility and availability of guns - particularly the kinds like the AR-15.

Three (3) armed officers engaged the shooter before or as he entered the school. They almost certainly hit him, too, but their handguns (probably .40) could not penetrate his body armor. He still got in and committed his atrocity. How much security does Shaprio want, or is he willing to accept?
These savages rarely tell the truth about their own motivations, but they are telling the truth, and telling us who they are, when they talk about the Tree of Liberty.
Fact is, Shapiro does not care at all. He and his degenerate base consider the occasional massacre an acceptable price to pay for the most important source of power and gratification in their lives, as well as their primary and most reliable defense against atavistic hordes of “others.”

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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 6:11:20am

re: #138 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just like we should base American law on *your* interpretation of God’s Divine Laws as set forth in *your* version of the Bible.

Precisely
Why is this so hard for everyone?

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jeffreyw  May 25, 2022 • 6:12:10am

Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2022 • 6:12:34am

re: #142 Dangerman

Precisely
Why is this so hard for everyone?

You are obviously a white, male landowner (Protestant, too)

The very sort of person God and our Founders wanted to rule over us.

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Dave In Austin  May 25, 2022 • 6:13:59am

As far as weapons go and bans.
That cats out of the bag. Semi- auto is semi-auto.

The debate needs to be magazine capacity for a starter.

5rnds period. With a huge fine and confiscation of unplugged Mags.

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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 6:15:07am

re: #144 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You are obviously a white, male landowner (Protestant, too)

The very sort of person God and our Founders wanted to rule over us.

It is all that simple. //

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Dopamine Fish  May 25, 2022 • 6:15:46am

re: #136 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

* I think the cultural problem runs much, much deeper than simply being a “gun fetish culture”. As I’ve said before, I think the American culture (not the superficial stuff like our entertainment or hairdos) is a savage, bloodthirsty, spiteful, empathy-free culture that cannot be changed by simply banning guns or opening more mental health clinics.

I would agree with you there; that is the overall point I am trying to make.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2022 • 6:19:46am

re: #136 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

* I think the cultural problem runs much, much deeper than simply being a “gun fetish culture”. As I’ve said before, I think the American culture (not the superficial stuff like our entertainment or hairdos) is a savage, bloodthirsty, spiteful, empathy-free culture that cannot be changed by simply banning guns or opening more mental health clinics.

I would not express it that directly, but we live in a culture in which violence is seen as an almost *desirable* way to solve problems and in which threats of violence are an acceptable mode of public discourse.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 25, 2022 • 6:19:56am

GQP will brush Uvalde under the rug after today. Seems like most of the kids are minorities.

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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 6:20:21am

“Don’t tell Zuckerberg, but I only tried to buy Twitter because I got a targeted ad for it on Instagram.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2022 • 6:20:25am

re: #149 GlutenFreeJesus

GQP will brush Uvalde under the rug after today. Seems like most of the kids are minorities.

And it is not enough to budge the needle in Texas.

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Belafon  May 25, 2022 • 6:20:46am

re: #136 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

These people all vote, and do not wish to be made to feel like a pariah class simply because they own guns. understand that, as adults, they might have responsibilities beyond their immediate needs.

You know what I dont get to do? I don’t get to run out and buy that cool laptop I want because I have a kid that has needs for school. I don’t get to drive through intersections just because I’m a responsible driver because we decided a long time ago that you can’t just leave it up to people.

All I hear when I hear this argument is “Why do I have to be the adult?” I’ve had to be that since I was 18.

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Dopamine Fish  May 25, 2022 • 6:24:25am

re: #152 Belafon

All I hear when I hear this argument is “Why do I have to be the adult?” I’ve had to be that since I was 18.

Yeah, this. It’s kind of like with the COVID pandemic; all the covidiots out there are like, “I don’t want to have to take responsibility for my actions or do anything to hinder my ordinary daily life. You get to do all the work to try to protect yourself; you’ll still be at risk anyway, because I’m an idiot who doesn’t understand how risk works, but I don’t wanna.”

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mmmirele  May 25, 2022 • 6:28:41am

re: #144 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You are obviously a white, male landowner (Protestant, too)

The very sort of person God and our Founders wanted to rule over us.

When I was a kid and we’d go to the drugstore, I kept seeing a book in the mass market paperbacks by R.L. Delderfield called “God is an Englishman.” It was one of those family saga books that were very popular through the 1970s. Never read the book, but the title sure as hell engraved itself on my 10 year old mind.

ETA: My cat walked into the bedroom meowing her head off only seconds before my alarm went off…damn furry timer.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2022 • 6:31:48am

re: #154 mmmirele

When I was a kid and we’d go to the drugstore, I kept seeing a book in the mass market paperbacks by R.L. Delderfield called “God is an Englishman.”

I remember having the photos from the White Album tacked up on my wall as a teenager with that caption beneath them.

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darthstar  May 25, 2022 • 6:37:55am

Steve Kerr in his pre-game presser last night.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 25, 2022 • 6:38:19am

re: #154 mmmirele

When I was a kid and we’d go to the drugstore, I kept seeing a book in the mass market paperbacks by R.L. Delderfield called “God is an Englishman.” It was one of those family saga books that were very popular through the 1970s. Never read the book, but the title sure as hell engraved itself on my 10 year old mind.

For me it was Queen’s Album cover, News of the World.

Youtube Video

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2022 • 6:47:54am

re: #157 Shropshire Slasher

That gag was inspired by Seth MacFarlane being freaked out by that album cover when he was a little kid.

It certainly was one of the more unique album cover artworks of the era. IIRC, it was an homage to a cover of an edition of Astounding Science Fiction from the 1960s.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 25, 2022 • 6:49:19am

1970 book review of “God is an Englishman” if you were unaware of it as I was.
(NY Times archive)
Wow, different writing style than I am used to as well (the review, not the book.) It helps if I read it in a cockney accent. Cockney is the wrong accent, but I like saying it.

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Belafon  May 25, 2022 • 6:50:52am

My 2013 Ford Fiesta, which I bought 8 years and 51 weeks ago, hit a milestone:

Only 36,282 miles to go.

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wrenchwench  May 25, 2022 • 6:51:59am
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Shropshire Slasher  May 25, 2022 • 6:52:05am

re: #160 Belafon

My 2013 Ford Fiesta, which I bought 8 years and 51 weeks ago, hit a milestone:

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Only 36,282 miles to go.

How many boogars you got under the seat though!?!?!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2022 • 6:53:14am

re: #158 Dr Lizardo

That gag was inspired by Seth MacFarlane being freaked out by that album cover when he was a little kid.

It certainly was one of the more unique album cover artworks of the era. IIRC, it was an homage to a cover of an edition of Astounding Science Fiction from the 1960s.

Did they not have to coax Kelly Freas out of retirement to do that cover? (Or am I confusing that with the Cars getting Alberto Vargas to do Candy-O)?

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2022 • 6:58:44am

re: #163 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Did they not have to coax Kelly Freas out of retirement to do that cover? (Or am I confusing that with the Cars getting Alberto Vargas to do Candy-O)?

I think that was Vargas that the Cars coaxed out of retirement. Kelly Freas was still working as an artist when he did the News of the World album cover.

And certainly, the Candy-O album cover is iconic as well. There’s definitely a few of them out there, like the Rio album cover done by Patrick Nagel.

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gocart mozart  May 25, 2022 • 6:59:37am
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wrenchwench  May 25, 2022 • 7:03:51am

re: #166 gocart mozart

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darthstar  May 25, 2022 • 7:04:55am

Jesus fuck…I can’t imagine.

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Dave In Austin  May 25, 2022 • 7:05:54am
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Citizen K  May 25, 2022 • 7:10:18am
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Crush White Nationalism  May 25, 2022 • 7:12:22am

Thread about Chris Kyle who was a trained soldier who knew he was with an armed disturbed person and couldn’t stop his killer even with that knowledge.

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Crush White Nationalism  May 25, 2022 • 7:13:16am

re: #170 Citizen K

That’s a mild reaction. Burning it all down is also an option.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 25, 2022 • 7:14:36am

re: #76 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A “Well Regulated Militia” being too complex and abstract a concept for ammo fetishists and gun-humpers to understand, we will concentrate solely on the “Right To Bear Arms” aspect of gun rights…

Too difficult for Scalia and 4 other GOP appointees to understand, in their dreadful Heller vs District of Columbia decision.

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sagehen  May 25, 2022 • 7:15:13am

re: #165 Dr Lizardo

I think that was Vargas that the Cars coaxed out of retirement. Kelly Freas was still working as an artist when he did the News of the World album cover.

And certainly, the Candy-O album cover is iconic as well. There’s definitely a few of them out there, like the Rio album cover done by Patrick Nagel.

H R Giger, ELP’s Brain Salad Surgery.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 25, 2022 • 7:16:54am

re: #85 HRH Stanley Sea

At least I got the elusive wordle salad

🕔

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Dopamine Fish  May 25, 2022 • 7:19:51am

re: #173 Hecuba’s daughter

Too difficult for Scalia and 4 other GOP appointees to understand, in their dreadful Heller vs District of Columbia decision.

It’s not that it’s too difficult for them to understand; as I’m sure you’re aware, it’s willful denial. Not even ignorance; it’s flat-out denial of the plain reading of the Constitution. This is the one area where their “originalism” fails, and they know it. They WANT to read a personal individual right to keep and bear arms, and so they invent excuses to allow them to rule that way, against their own judicial philosophy which declares that they should stick to the plain reading of the text as the Founders intended in all circumstances.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 25, 2022 • 7:20:42am

re: #172 Crush White Nationalism

That’s a mild reaction. Burning it all down is also an option.

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wrenchwench  May 25, 2022 • 7:22:07am

re: #175 Hecuba’s daughter

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2022 • 7:22:09am

re: #174 sagehen

H R Giger, ELP’s Brain Salad Surgery.

Yep - and Giger did a solo album cover for Debbie Harry too.

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Eventual Carrion  May 25, 2022 • 7:25:59am

re: #3 Dopamine Fish

Here’s the right-wing talking point for tomorrow:

No. In that area of the United States he would probably come from a family that are “legacy Americans”. People there before Texas even joined the US. I thought we wanted to save America for the “legacy Americans”.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  May 25, 2022 • 7:26:27am

re: #172 Crush White Nationalism

That’s a mild reaction. Burning it all down is also an option.

Reminds me for some reason. Why are there no mass demonstrations outside NRA headquarters in Fairfax Virginia? A million people should be laying siege to that citadel of Satan.

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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 7:26:48am

re: #176 Dopamine Fish

It’s not that it’s too difficult for them to understand; as I’m sure you’re aware, it’s willful denial. Not even ignorance; it’s flat-out denial of the plain reading of the Constitution. This is the one area where their “originalism” fails, and they know it. They WANT to read a personal individual right to keep and bear arms, and so they invent excuses to allow them to rule that way, against their own judicial philosophy which declares that they should stick to the plain reading of the text as the Founders intended in all circumstances.

What I said above somewhere
The humpty dumpty interpretation
It means what I say it means
Until I say it means something else

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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 7:29:25am
Republicans on the House Oversight Committee are laying the groundwork for a probe into Hunter Biden’s finances, part of efforts to keep the president’s son in the spotlight ahead of midterm elections,” the Wall Street Journal reports.

Laser-like focus on what’s critical to the country today

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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 7:30:58am
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Crush White Nationalism  May 25, 2022 • 7:31:06am
On Friday, May 27—which will be three days after the horrific mass shooting at Robb Elementary School that killed 18 children and three adults—the National Rifle Association will meet in Houston, Texas, for their annual meeting. Donald Trump is scheduled to speak at their “leadership forum,” where guns will not be allowed.

You can have your gun at other events during the three-day convention; but if you attend the forum with Trump, NRA’s Executive Vice President, NRA-ILA’s Executive Director, and “our nation’s top Second Amendment supporters,” per NRA’s event announcement, then you will be prohibited from exercising your God-given, Second Amendment right to bear arms.

The NRA Is Banning Guns for Trump’s Appearance at Its Upcoming Convention (Jezebel)

Of course right-wing assholes claim that guns are to defend against tyrants, while inviting a tyrant who attempted a coup to their event. They’re so full of shit that their eyes are brown.

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2022 • 7:34:02am

re: #181 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Reminds me for some reason. Why are there no mass demonstrations outside NRA headquarters in Fairfax Virginia? A million people should be laying siege to that citadel of Satan.

The reason there’s no mass demonstrations is because sporadic mass casualty events like this are just considered business as usual by far too many. That being said, if - and that’s a big “if” - 20 toddlers were being gunned down Monday through Friday, a daily occurrence, than just maybe that might convince certain folks to say to themselves, “Hmm….think we might have a problem here.”

But I really wouldn’t count on that. The usual suspects will simply respond with, “Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne!” as is their wont.

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Crush White Nationalism  May 25, 2022 • 7:37:02am

Psycho to report for threatening violence. This psycho is a state Rep.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 25, 2022 • 7:40:12am

Trying to take guns from people is not the best solution IMO.

But it would be nice to start restricting the types of weapons that can be sold going forward.

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mmmirele  May 25, 2022 • 7:40:22am

re: #181 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Reminds me for some reason. Why are there no mass demonstrations outside NRA headquarters in Fairfax Virginia? A million people should be laying siege to that citadel of Satan.

If I ever won the lottery, that’s what I was going to do. Take body bags and stack them up on the sidewalk outside NRA HQ, so the people on the *tour buses* for the NRA museum could see what they are endorsing and paying for.

And I’d alternate with the C Street offices of the NRA’s lobbyists.

I still haven’t won the lottery.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 25, 2022 • 7:42:22am

re: #94 Dr. Matt

Oh FFS.

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And he has a real chance of being elected.

A seriously brain damaged candidate. It is not his fault — it is that of the people who selected him to run and those who voted for him.

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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 7:42:41am

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Belafon  May 25, 2022 • 7:43:05am

re: #187 Crush White Nationalism

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Not sure why you hid it, but I’ll follow suit with my reply.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 25, 2022 • 7:45:09am

Another problem: Let’s say Manchin and Sinema cave for some reason and agree to kill the filibuster tomorrow, allowing Dems to pass new gun laws.

Those laws will inevitably make their way to SCOTUS where the wingnut majority will promptly strike them down.

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Crush White Nationalism  May 25, 2022 • 7:47:31am
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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2022 • 7:48:59am

re: #193 Eclectic Cyborg

Another problem: Let’s say Manchin and Sinema cave for some reason and agree to kill the filibuster tomorrow, allowing Dems to pass new gun laws.

Those laws will inevitably make their way to SCOTUS where the wingnut majority will promptly strike them down.

Unfortunately, you’re probably entirely correct. To make any significant changes, you’d need to either amend the Constitution through ratification or constitutional convention to alter/nullify the Second Amendment.

Good luck on that one.

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darthstar  May 25, 2022 • 7:54:36am

More cannon fodder.

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Sherlock Hound  May 25, 2022 • 7:54:50am

re: #192 Belafon

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  May 25, 2022 • 7:54:53am

re: #143 jeffreyw

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I’m in a “what’s so good about it” mood.

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Citizen K  May 25, 2022 • 7:55:14am

re: #181 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Reminds me for some reason. Why are there no mass demonstrations outside NRA headquarters in Fairfax Virginia? A million people should be laying siege to that citadel of Satan.

Because coverage is king in this country, and instant gratification politics is its handmaiden.

Considering we had coordinated worldwide marches totaling in the millions fall flat far as impact because the media successfully minimized them, and considering how utterly politically insulated the NRA is from any sort of consequence, any demonstration at the NRA HQ would require a sustained months-long campaign to have any real effect.

By which time folks will have likely thrown up their hands and moved on because if it didn’t work instantly, it doesn’t work. And then folks will turn around and blame the folks who tried for being failures, rather than the folks who created the problem in the first place. Because failure breeds contempt in this country, and there’s nothing so sinful as being a ‘failure’, no matter how many folks claim they want folks to at least try. Doesn’t matter the reason for the failure, the act of failure is enough for condemnation.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 25, 2022 • 7:56:26am

re: #196 darthstar

More cannon fodder.

So either old guys who can’t move well or child soldiers then.

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HypnoToad  May 25, 2022 • 7:56:57am

I wonder what would happen if there was a nationwide program where certain services or obligations could be paid for by turning in a working gun, no questions asked. A less direct form of gun buyback program; one where a doctor’s visit, outstanding credit card payment, rent check, or car repair and similar debts could be…discharged. There would of course have to be set values on the guns, and federal expenditures for reimbursement to participating merchants or creditors, but it might encourage people who need and can’t cover those services to think about disarming.

Pie in the sky speculation, I know.

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Belafon  May 25, 2022 • 7:59:29am

re: #196 darthstar

More cannon fodder.

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I see a Children’s Crusade coming.

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Citizen K  May 25, 2022 • 8:02:05am
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HRH Stanley Sea  May 25, 2022 • 8:03:48am
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Teukka  May 25, 2022 • 8:05:52am

re: #202 Belafon

I see a Children’s Crusade coming.

Sometimes, I wonder if them 🇿’s have decided to play Bingo with the Geneva and Hague Conventions…

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gocart mozart  May 25, 2022 • 8:07:25am

So they deleted their ad

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 25, 2022 • 8:08:00am

re: #196 darthstar

More cannon fodder.

They might get some men who are experienced with running T-62s that way though.
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 25, 2022 • 8:08:11am

re: #201 HypnoToad

That’s a pretty damn good idea.

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darthstar  May 25, 2022 • 8:09:19am

re: #202 Belafon

I see a Children’s Crusade coming.

Immediate backfill will come from the over 40s who thought they were safe from recruitment.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 25, 2022 • 8:11:27am

You can set your damn clock for exactly what these assholes will say every single fucking time this happens.

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Crush White Nationalism  May 25, 2022 • 8:12:46am

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darthstar  May 25, 2022 • 8:14:11am
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darthstar  May 25, 2022 • 8:16:03am
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HypnoToad  May 25, 2022 • 8:22:07am

We here are used to seeing posted images of Sunrises and Sunsets from the Mt. Wilson webcam mounted on their 150’ solar tower. This is last evening’s Sunset over Mt. Wilson.
I’d been watching and waiting for the alignment, and used a 1000mm f/10 maksutov.

Almost there! Overexposed Sun to show foreground transmitter antennas and the observatory.
Sun behind the antenna farm. The prominent dark tower inside the right limb is the 150’ solar telescope where the webcam is mounted.
Last glimmer behind the solar tower. The 60” telescope dome is just to the right of the sunlight. The 100” dome and tall CBS antenna are inside the right edge of the image.
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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 8:22:15am

Some perspective from electoral-vote.com

This incident is getting front-page attention because of the ghastly human toll, but it is the 248th mass shooting in the U.S. this year, the 49th this month, and the 13th in the past week. And, incidentally, 27 of those have taken place at schools.

We are broken.
I refuse to accept it as hopelessly.
Though I don’t see an effective way forward.

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Belafon  May 25, 2022 • 8:22:29am

re: #203 Citizen K

How many of those Democrats are still in office?

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Eventual Carrion  May 25, 2022 • 8:25:35am

re: #66 Eclectic Cyborg

Not great, not bad.

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Citizen K  May 25, 2022 • 8:28:07am

re: #216 Belafon

How many of those Democrats are still in office?

Why are you trying to deflect from those handful of ex-congresspeople who clearly demonstrate that the entirety of the Dem party doesn’t want action? Don’t you know about Rotating Villains?! /s

It’s exhausting how many people bend over backwards to never ascribe blame to the Republicans for anything.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2022 • 8:31:23am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 25, 2022 • 8:35:05am

Here’s some good news:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2022 • 8:39:17am

re: #184 Dangerman

According to Herschel Walker, Trump has never said the election was stolen.

And they did not immediately interrupt him to tell him he was full of shit?

This is like that adage about how when someone says it is raining, you don’t just quote them, you look out the window yourself to see if it is raining.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 25, 2022 • 8:40:13am

GQP wants to protect kids from masks, history, books, racism, LGBTQ, but being gunned down in school = nope. Nothing can be done.

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jaunte  May 25, 2022 • 8:40:59am
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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2022 • 8:43:15am

re: #215 Dangerman

This incident is getting front-page attention because of the ghastly human toll, but it is the 248th mass shooting in the U.S. this year, the 49th this month, and the 13th in the past week. And, incidentally, 27 of those have taken place at schools.

I just shared that stat with a student of mine here, and she read it and said, “That’s not possible. That makes Somalia look like some sleepy village where nothing ever happens. That’s something I’d expect to hear about in a warzone.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2022 • 8:43:58am

re: #223 jaunte

And Dinesh D’Souza’s Donkey Show of an election scandal doc was such a whopper that not even Fox or Newsmax would cover it. It still enjoys plenty of word-of-mouth popularity, though; my radicalized sister-in-law was spreading it on FB last week…

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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 8:44:09am

re: #221 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And they did not immediately interrupt him to tell him he was full of shit?

This is like that adage about how when someone says it is raining, you don’t just quote them, you look out the window yourself to see if it is raining.

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Crush White Nationalism  May 25, 2022 • 8:44:28am

re: #219 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dopamine Fish  May 25, 2022 • 8:44:28am

re: #225 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And Dinesh D’Souza’s Donkey Show of an election scandal doc was such a whopper that not even Fox or Newsmax would cover it. It still enjoys plenty of word-of-mouth popularity, though; my radicalized sister-in-law was spreading it on FB last week…

I’ve been waiting for one of my in-laws to send it to me or to Mrs. Fish.

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2022 • 8:45:06am

re: #220 Eclectic Cyborg

Here’s some good news:

J Jonah Jameson Laugh - Spiderman

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Citizen K  May 25, 2022 • 8:45:27am

Shot & Chaser

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2022 • 8:45:31am

re: #228 Dopamine Fish

I’ve been waiting for one of my in-laws to send [2,000 Mules] to me or to Mrs. Fish.

I should send a copy to my ex-GF, I am sure she would enjoy it…

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lawhawk  May 25, 2022 • 8:45:45am

re: #224 Dr Lizardo

There’s a reason I wrote the following up above:

Gun violence claims over 40,000 Americans every year. We have more mass shootings than anywhere outside of a declared war zone. We have more mass shootings than any other country on the planet that isn’t currently a war zone. We have more mass shootings and garden variety shootings per capita than anywhere else.

By every metric, the US has more gun violence than anywhere else on the planet outside of a war zone like Ukraine defending itself from Russian fascists. More than Afghanistan. More than Somalia or Yemen.

The NRA and GOP are fine with all of this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2022 • 8:46:49am

another moron barks

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jaunte  May 25, 2022 • 8:47:24am

re: #225 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A conservative commentator brought that trash up on a ‘balanced’ local political show yesterday (on NPR), treating it as a legitimate piece of evidence that the election was stolen, and got little if any pushback from the host and the liberal commentator.
Our media is failing to call out obvious propaganda.

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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 8:47:25am

re: #222 GlutenFreeJesus

GQP wants to protect kids from masks, history, books, racism, LGBTQ, but being gunned down in school = nope. Nothing can be done.

+ A bunch

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2022 • 8:48:01am

re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth

Two policemen, carrying guns, fired at the assailant but could not penetrate his body armor.

Tell us how armed teachers were gonna make a difference.

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lawhawk  May 25, 2022 • 8:48:11am
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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 8:48:42am

re: #224 Dr Lizardo

I just shared that stat with a student of mine here, and she read it and said, “That’s not possible. That makes Somalia look like some sleepy village where nothing ever happens. That’s something I’d expect to hear about in a warzone.”

Ain’t dispassionate perspective grand?

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Dopamine Fish  May 25, 2022 • 8:49:02am

re: #236 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Two policemen, carrying guns, fired at the assailant but could not penetrate his body armor.

Tell us how armed teachers were gonna make a difference.

In Texas, teachers should be carrying .50 caliber weapons, because everything’s bigger in Texas.

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jaunte  May 25, 2022 • 8:49:38am
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The Pie Overlord!  May 25, 2022 • 8:51:00am

This guy has been in politics for 30 years and still does not understand how government works.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 25, 2022 • 8:51:03am

There’s no Constitutional right to body armor. Why don’t we start by restricting the fuck out of that to make it easier to stop these assholes?

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Crush White Nationalism  May 25, 2022 • 8:51:13am

re: #229 Dr Lizardo

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jaunte  May 25, 2022 • 8:51:23am
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Teukka  May 25, 2022 • 8:52:17am
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Eventual Carrion  May 25, 2022 • 8:52:17am

re: #84 TarHellion

Wordle 340 6/6

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Blehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh … Hey, at least it’s Wednesday. Just 3 days until a 3-day weekend! Woohoo!!!

I’m going to have a 5 day weekend. Problem is that I will possibly spend 2 of those days (tomorrow and Friday) hanging around a hospital waiting room while the wife gets a procedure and recovers. If all goes well they might let her go after the surgery/recovery time tomorrow, but it all depends on what they find.

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jaunte  May 25, 2022 • 8:52:31am
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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 8:53:40am

re: #230 Citizen K

Shot & Chaser

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When the Rs vote against, they always have “a reason”. Some flaw.
So they should be asked specifically for their alternative effective solution

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lawhawk  May 25, 2022 • 8:54:41am

re: #244 jaunte

That’s the thing I’m lost on.

The story so far (and this is still way early in the investigations) is that the shooter was engaged by security officers and was wearing “not” body armor, got through these armed security, murdered the classroom full of students and teacher, and these same armed security didn’t try to stop this but waited for SWAT?

Do I have that right in the macro sense? Because what’s the point of the armed security if they’re not going to do anything except wait for SWAT to show up? Isn’t that an admission that a good guy with a gun is not only not a deterrent, but that they’re ill equipped to do anything other than clean up the mess of gun violence.

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2022 • 8:55:46am

re: #242 Eclectic Cyborg

There’s no Constitutional right to body armor. Why don’t we start by restricting the fuck out of that to make it easier to stop these assholes?

One of my students here this morning was quite surprised to hear about the perp wearing body armor. That’s illegal here - only cops or active-duty military personnel can have that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2022 • 8:55:55am

re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth

another moron barks

goalposts moved:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2022 • 8:56:53am

and he has to resort to a flat out lie

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Dopamine Fish  May 25, 2022 • 8:57:02am

re: #242 Eclectic Cyborg

There’s no Constitutional right to body armor. Why don’t we just restrict the fuck out of that to make it easier to stop these assholes?

You’re looking at this the wrong way. This story proves the effectiveness of body armor in stopping mass shootings. Therefore, we should issue body armor to every schoolkid, every office worker, and every churchgoer in America. Bingo, mass shootings have stopped being a problem. Now, these unhinged crazies can have unrestricted access to guns, like the Founders intended, because they can’t do any damage!

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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 8:57:25am

re: #237 lawhawk

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We wouldn’t need worry about the filibuster if the GOP cared as much for kids in school as they do for a fetus in the womb…

…of that same 12 yo that was just killed

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Crush White Nationalism  May 25, 2022 • 8:58:59am

re: #250 The Pie Overlord!

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Dopamine Fish  May 25, 2022 • 8:59:10am

These same assholes who quote the “Constitutional” rights to “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” when talking about abortion are sure silent on the subject when it comes to post-birth human beings being deprived of them. Because apparently, it’s much more important to bring people into this world to be subjected to hell than it is to make it less of a hell to live in.

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Crush White Nationalism  May 25, 2022 • 9:02:11am
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Dopamine Fish  May 25, 2022 • 9:03:20am

re: #258 Crush White Nationalism

Hey now, we’ve already got the “might makes right” and “apathetic/actively sadistic wardens” parts of turning schools into prisons. Might as well go all the way and turn them into bleak and dreary fortresses.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2022 • 9:03:21am

re: #242 Eclectic Cyborg

There’s no Constitutional right to body armor. Why don’t we start by restricting the fuck out of that to make it easier to stop these assholes?

the right to bear armor

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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 9:03:43am

re: #247 jaunte

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We don’t need them in all schools

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- some are what do we care if there’s a shooting there?

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Crush White Nationalism  May 25, 2022 • 9:05:47am

re: #259 Dopamine Fish

Hey now, we’ve already got the “might makes right” and “apathetic/actively sadistic wardens” parts of turning schools into prisons. Might as well go all the way and turn them into bleak and dreary fortresses.

Bleak and dreary fortresses where every kid and teacher dies the first time there’s a fire.

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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 9:06:13am

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

goalposts moved:

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Hey john, nothing like that happened.
At all.

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Crush White Nationalism  May 25, 2022 • 9:06:14am
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Mike Lamb  May 25, 2022 • 9:08:19am

re: #258 Crush White Nationalism

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Let’s say a high school has 3k+ kids in it and starts at 8:30 AM. When are those kids going to start lining up before school to get through the checkpoint? 7 AM?

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Dopamine Fish  May 25, 2022 • 9:09:53am

re: #262 Crush White Nationalism

Bleak and dreary fortresses where every kid and teacher dies the first time there’s a fire.

We’ve already established that kids’ lives are not worth enough to merit giving up our precious right to gun ownership. The right wing wouldn’t care about this, but of course, you know that already.

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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 9:09:54am

re: #259 Dopamine Fish

Hey now, we’ve already got the “might makes right” and “apathetic/actively sadistic wardens” parts of turning schools into prisons. Might as well go all the way and turn them into bleak and dreary fortresses.

Guess what kind of person is going to apply for those 300k+ security jobs…

News flash: “school guard shoots up classroom…”, film at 11

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Crush White Nationalism  May 25, 2022 • 9:10:38am
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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 9:12:21am

re: #265 Mike Lamb

Let’s say a high school has 3k+ kids in it and starts at 8:30 AM. When are those kids going to start lining up before school to get through the checkpoint? 7 AM?

“Single point of access”?
So no windows?
Idiots

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Belafon  May 25, 2022 • 9:14:14am

re: #269 Dangerman

“Single point of access”?
So no windows?
Idiots

“A fire today killed 2000 students at Rebel High School as the students tried to file out the single door to escape.”

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2022 • 9:15:34am

A good response to the “thought and prayers” crowd….

Youtube Video

That’s almost Carlin-esque.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2022 • 9:15:41am

re: #270 Belafon

“A fire today killed 2000 students at Rebel High School as the students tried to file out the single door to escape.”

“Those who escaped were taken out by a sniper scope rifle fired by the arsonist who had started the fire….”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2022 • 9:16:18am
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(((Archangel1)))  May 25, 2022 • 9:16:21am

Reported his chickensh*t treasonous ass ofc.

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Crush White Nationalism  May 25, 2022 • 9:16:36am

re: #258 Crush White Nationalism

It looks like Hunter is a Parkland kid, and lots of his Tweets are normal, but he dresses like a Republican.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2022 • 9:23:18am
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Crush White Nationalism  May 25, 2022 • 9:24:20am

Fandom has sucked for decades now because of all the worthless maladjusted assholes. Same with multiplayer gaming. Anything that attracts young men seems to be terrible these days.

Moses Ingram may only be 5′ 5” tall, but she’s scary and imposing as Jedi-hunting villain Reva in the upcoming and highly anticipated Star Wars spinoff Obi-Wan Kenobi.

The role is an excellent one for the fast-rising actress, but like John Boyega and Kelly Marie Tran before her, she was warned she may face some troubling hate from certain fans as a person of color.

According to The Independent, Ingram said an executive at Lucasfilm warned her that she was probably going to face some hate online. She also said they were ready to help with the issue.

“It was something that Lucasfilm actually got in front of, and said, ‘This is a thing that, unfortunately, likely will happen. But we are here to help you; you can let us know when it happens’.”

Lucasfilm told ‘Obi-Wan Kenobi’ star to expect racist hate from fans (WeGotThisCovered)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  May 25, 2022 • 9:25:53am

re: #275 Crush White Nationalism

It looks like Hunter is a Parkland kid, and lots of his Tweets are normal, but he dresses like a Republican.

His sister, Meadow, was killed at Parkland. He and his father are advocaats for fortifying schools as opposed to sensible gun control
They have been guests of Trump at White House listening sessions.

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lawhawk  May 25, 2022 • 9:28:34am
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Crush White Nationalism  May 25, 2022 • 9:28:40am

re: #278 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

His sister, Meadow, was killed at Parkland. He and his father are advocaats for fortifying schools as opposed to sensible gun control
They have been guests of Trump at White House listening sessions.

I blame his idiot father then. Bad parenting is behind a lot of our issues.

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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 9:30:36am
Former President Donald Trump is scheduled to speak at the National Rifle Association’s Annual Leadership Forum on Friday,” NPR reports.

“But audience members at the group’s annual meeting, being held this year in Houston, won’t be able to carry guns during his address

So restricting access to guns in a given area does have the potential to make things safer?

Its like everything the GOP has ever said to defend giving guns to everyone is bullshit

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Hecuba's daughter  May 25, 2022 • 9:31:08am

re: #195 Dr Lizardo

Unfortunately, you’re probably entirely correct. To make any significant changes, you’d need to either amend the Constitution through ratification or constitutional convention to alter/nullify the Second Amendment.

Good luck on that one.

Or get control of SCOTUS and that isn’t likely to happen unless Democrats hold the WH and Senate at least through 2036.

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Dopamine Fish  May 25, 2022 • 9:32:40am

re: #279 lawhawk

Nono, Jim, it’s “too soon” to talk about making changes to fix the problem. We need to let these parents grieve first (read: Let this pass out of the news cycle so that people stop being bothered about it on a daily basis, and thus lose the impetus to fix the problem). THEN we can talk about fixing the problem… but what’s this? Nobody cares? Okay, back to business as usual!

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Crush White Nationalism  May 25, 2022 • 9:33:41am
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Citizen K  May 25, 2022 • 9:34:44am

re: #283 Dopamine Fish

Nono, Jim, it’s “too soon” to talk about making changes to fix the problem. We need to let these parents grieve first (read: Let this pass out of the news cycle so that people stop being bothered about it on a daily basis, and thus lose the impetus to fix the problem). THEN we can talk about fixing the problem… but what’s this? Nobody cares? Okay, back to business as usual!

Depressingly, these days it’s more about the next mass shooting pushing the previous one out of the cycle, and resetting the ‘it’s too soon to politicize this’ timer. Which we’re measuring by hours these days rather than days.

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Dopamine Fish  May 25, 2022 • 9:36:41am

God damn it. All I can do today is think about how horrifyingly awful this all is. I’m hearing the screams and cries of injured and panicked children in the classroom as they’re being fired upon. I’m feeling the despair and worry of parents as they wait for increasing hours, their kid’s not at the reunification site and they don’t know what’s happening. I’m feeling the emptiness of the parents at home, staring at their kid’s toys, clothes, half-eaten leftovers in the fridge, unmade bed, none of which will ever be touched by the hands that owned them again. FUCK. This one’s hitting hard, and it’s upsetting me that once again, I. Can. Do. NOTHING.

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sagehen  May 25, 2022 • 9:40:31am

re: #275 Crush White Nationalism

It looks like Hunter is a Parkland kid, and lots of his Tweets are normal, but he dresses like a Republican.

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It is Florida, we have to expect a certain percentage are going to be Republicans.

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lawhawk  May 25, 2022 • 9:42:24am

Unfu…

Nope. Totally fucking believable.

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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 9:44:36am

re: #283 Dopamine Fish

Nono, Jim, it’s “too soon” to talk about making changes to fix the problem. We need to let these parents grieve first (read: Let this pass out of the news cycle so that people stop being bothered about it on a daily basis, and thus lose the impetus to fix the problem). THEN we can talk about fixing the problem… but what’s this? Nobody cares? Okay, back to business as usual!

From above…248th mass shooting in the U.S. this year, the 49th this month, and the 13th in the past week.

Theyve made it perpetually “too soon”

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 25, 2022 • 9:52:51am

re: #215 Dangerman

Some perspective from electoral-vote.com

We are broken.
I refuse to accept it as hopelessly.
Though I don’t see an effective way forward.

I’m sure Chuck Todd will appear on Sunday with some Republicans and tell us all how this is bad for Biden and the Democrats.
//
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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 9:56:07am

WapoLink

Paul Waldman: “There are few things that members of the American right emphasize more often about themselves than their deep commitment to protecting children — particularly when it comes to the threat of sexual abuse. In recent months, they’ve shown how intense that commitment is by labeling just about anyone who supports equality for LGBTQ people as ‘groomers’ who are preparing children to be sexually abused.”

“So when news broke this past weekend of a blockbuster report about sexual abuse (including of children) and a coverup within the Southern Baptist Convention, the GOP and conservative movement rose up in outrage. Republican politicians such as Texas Gov. Greg Abbott and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis demanded further investigation, QAnon adherents turned their focus to this conspiracy, and conservative media couldn’t stop talking about the story.”

“Actually, none of that happened.”

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Hecuba's daughter  May 25, 2022 • 9:58:15am

re: #243 Crush White Nationalism

“Alan Keyes, an absolute lunatic piece of garbage who disowned his lesbian daughter got 27% running against Obama for Senator. That seems to be the percentage of crazies in our population that will choose a monster over a qualified candidate. Even the crazies reject Kandiss.”

They rejected her because they had 2 male racists available. If she were running against Stacey, my guess is that she would receive at least 45% of the vote.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 25, 2022 • 9:58:33am

re: #236 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Two policemen, carrying guns, fired at the assailant but could not penetrate his body armor.

Tell us how armed teachers were gonna make a difference.

By giving the attacker another possible gun and/or ammo to use. Of course.
/

Plus a secondary casualty count as the “teacher’s gun” gets misused, lost, stolen, etc. After which they are all put in a safe in the principal’s office or a backroom and thus inaccessible when the attack happens. Simply some additional school funding frittered away.

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Crush White Nationalism  May 25, 2022 • 9:59:55am

He’s not coming out against the corrupt NRA. He’s a coward who made an excuse not to show up.

Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-TX) on Wednesday confirmed to TPM that he has canceled his scheduled appearance at the National Rifle Association’s convention in Houston on Friday. Crenshaw was previously confirmed as a speaker at the event, which is scheduled to take place days after the tragic shooting at an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas.

Crenshaw’s chief of staff Justin Discigil told TPM Tuesday that the GOP congressman is currently in Ukraine. Crenshaw’s office let the organizers of the NRA annual convention know Tuesday morning that the congressman wouldn’t be back in the U.S. in time to attend the event, according to Discigil.

Asked by TPM to clarify whether the Texas shooting impacted Crenshaw’s visit to Ukraine, Discigil denied the shooting impacted the lawmaker’s travel schedule.

Crenshaw Is Now In Ukraine And Says He Won’t Speak At NRA Meeting After All (TPM via MSN)

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 25, 2022 • 10:01:07am

re: #248 Dangerman

When the Rs vote against, they always have “a reason”. Some flaw.
So they should be asked specifically for their alternative effective solution

Careful. They might suggest closing all the public schools. No schools, no location for a school shooting.

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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 10:02:13am

re: #294 Crush White Nationalism

He’s not coming out against the corrupt NRA. He’s a coward who made an excuse not to show up.

Crenshaw Is Now In Ukraine And Says He Won’t Speak At NRA Meeting After All (TPM via MSN)

They gave him a chance

Asked by TPM to clarify whether the Texas shooting impacted Crenshaw’s visit to Ukraine, Discigil denied the shooting impacted the lawmaker’s travel schedule

He tanked it

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  May 25, 2022 • 10:04:32am

re: #275 Crush White Nationalism

It looks like Hunter is a Parkland kid, and lots of his Tweets are normal, but he dresses like a Republican.

re: #278 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

His sister, Meadow, was killed at Parkland. He and his father are advocaats for fortifying schools as opposed to sensible gun control
They have been guests of Trump at White House listening sessions.

re: #280 Crush White Nationalism

I blame his idiot father then. Bad parenting is behind a lot of our issues.

Hunter and Meadow’s dad, Andrew Pollack

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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 10:06:03am

re: #295 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Careful. They might suggest closing all the public schools. No schools, no location for a school shooting.

Permanent home schooling? Hah!
Private schools only,means just different buildings. Same vulnerability…

Fwiw, someone once recommended that the long island railroad (ny) remove the first and last cars cause they were the ones damaged in most of the train crashes

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  May 25, 2022 • 10:07:11am
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Dopamine Fish  May 25, 2022 • 10:07:20am

re: #298 Dangerman

Fwiw, someone once recommended that the long island railroad (ny) remove the first and last cars cause they were the ones damaged in most of the train crashes

Ah, survivorship bias. I remember first reading about that and realizing how many things it applied to, and how it makes sense of so many wrong decisions that Dunning-Kruger sufferers make.

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Mike Lamb  May 25, 2022 • 10:08:18am

re: #269 Dangerman

“Single point of access”?
So no windows?
Idiots

Also, 3k kids milling around in front of the school. What could possibly go wrong?

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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 10:08:47am

re: #299 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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Car accidents make a somber case for never leaving home…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  May 25, 2022 • 10:10:32am

re: #302 Dangerman

Car accidents make a somber case for never leaving home…

Home fires make a somber case for living in an open field

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2022 • 10:11:04am

re: #302 Dangerman

Car accidents make a somber case for never leaving home…

Slips and falls around the house make a somber case for never getting out of bed.

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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 10:11:11am

re: #301 Mike Lamb

Also, 3k kids milling around in front of the school. What could possibly go wrong?

schedule their arrivals in small time windows. That would work well… //

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Crush White Nationalism  May 25, 2022 • 10:11:32am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2022 • 10:12:04am
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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 10:12:37am

re: #304 Dr Lizardo

Slips and falls around the house make a somber case for never getting out of bed.

This thinking is why gun registration must imevitably lead to confiscating every single gun.

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Crush White Nationalism  May 25, 2022 • 10:12:47am

re: #299 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 10:13:11am

re: #306 Crush White Nationalism

+1

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2022 • 10:16:08am
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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 10:17:07am


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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2022 • 10:17:33am
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Eventual Carrion  May 25, 2022 • 10:17:58am

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

goalposts moved:

So let’s arm teachers so they are the first targeted?

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Barefoot Grin  May 25, 2022 • 10:18:07am

My son goes to (and other graduated from) a high school with well over 3k students. It is the size of a small college campus with four large classroom buildings and a separate gym, so between classes there are always hundreds of students walking outside. The local police do patrols, but everyone acknowledges that if a shooter is determined enough, there’s little they can do. He’s graduating next week. Day to day, I don’t think about it too much, but whenever there’s another mass shooting, I get terrified.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 25, 2022 • 10:19:36am

re: #301 Mike Lamb

Also, 3k kids milling around in front of the school. What could possibly go wrong?

Along the lines of what I thought when the airports and TSA locked down security getting to the gates. The lines of people waiting to go through security are easily as large of a target, if not more so.

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2022 • 10:19:59am

Rammstein just keeps getting better and better:

(Def NSFW)

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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 10:20:07am

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Hecuba's daughter  May 25, 2022 • 10:21:16am

re: #283 Dopamine Fish

Nono, Jim, it’s “too soon” to talk about making changes to fix the problem. We need to let these parents grieve first (read: Let this pass out of the news cycle so that people stop being bothered about it on a daily basis, and thus lose the impetus to fix the problem). THEN we can talk about fixing the problem… but what’s this? Nobody cares? Okay, back to business as usual!

Another shooting will likely take center stage soon and this will be forgotten.

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Dave In Austin  May 25, 2022 • 10:22:52am
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lawhawk  May 25, 2022 • 10:23:12am

re: #315 Barefoot Grin

My son goes to (and other graduated from) a high school with well over 3k students. It is the size of a small college campus with four large classroom buildings and a separate gym, so between classes there are always hundreds of students walking outside. The local police do patrols, but everyone acknowledges that if a shooter is determined enough, there’s little they can do. He’s graduating next week. Day to day, I don’t think about it too much, but whenever there’s another mass shooting, I get terrified.

I’ve gone to schools with just a few hundred students (law school) to thousands of students (high school) to nearly 20k students (college). You could have a single building or a campus of buildings, but how do you secure a campus? How do you secure a single building with thousands of students?

All of that is a distraction from fact that but for the easy availability of guns, the amount of gun violence in the US would not be at the insane levels we see today.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2022 • 10:26:54am
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Crush White Nationalism  May 25, 2022 • 10:27:59am

re: #299 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  May 25, 2022 • 10:28:19am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2022 • 10:28:54am

Ohio:

OXFORD, Ohio — A Talawanda Schools student was arrested Wednesday in connection with an alleged threat and subsequent lockdown of the district’s middle school.

Talawanda spokesperson Holli Morrish said the middle school student suspect, who was not in school Wednesday, was taken into custody after being arrested away from the school campus.

“The Oxford Police Department was investigating a student this morning who allegedly made a threat to another student. The student who is being investigated for that is in custody with the Oxford Police,” said Morrish.

“We still have the external lockdown. We call it a modified lockdown here at Talawanda. What that means is we are not letting visitors into the building but the building, internally, is operating as normal,” she said during the lockdown Wednesday morning.

“The lockdown was pretty precautionary but we felt like we should do it.”

A written threat found in a bathroom at Talawanda High School in December also led to a precautionary lockdown to that school.

The incident comes one day after a massacre at a Uvalde, Texas elementary school in which 18 children and 2 adults died. The shooter was killed by police.

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Crush White Nationalism  May 25, 2022 • 10:30:02am

re: #324 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

That no capitalization, missing punctuation person doesn’t seem to be aware of bankruptcy. Medical debt is the easiest debt to get dismissed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2022 • 10:30:47am
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wrenchwench  May 25, 2022 • 10:31:38am

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ohio:

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We call it a modified lockdown here at Talawanda. What that means is we are not letting visitors into the building but the building, internally, is operating as normal

The new ‘normal school’.

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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 10:33:05am

re: #324 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

And the girls could still have blessings (babies) forced upon them

Hating this country is getting easier

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2022 • 10:33:46am
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Dangerman  May 25, 2022 • 10:36:59am

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ohio:

Monitoring investigating arresting, deterring, thwarting etc, these are all good things.

And yet some more clever loon will slip through and that will be the next shooting

Which is why I say we can’t stop “the next one. “

Just reduce the rate overall so there’s less of em

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  May 25, 2022 • 10:43:01am

re: #245 Teukka

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The gunman in the 1966 Austin Tower shooting, Charles Whitman, killed his wife and mother before he went on the shooting spree. He also killed the Tower receptionist, Edna Townsley, when he arrived, meaning that he started the massacre by killing three women in a row.

I did not know about this until today, even though I was vaguely familiar with the Boyer-Lindquist coordinates from astrophysics:

In the mathematical description of general relativity, the Boyer-Lindquist coordinates are a generalization of the coordinates used for the metric of a Schwarzschild black hole that can be used to express the metric of a Kerr black hole.

The Hamiltonian for test particle motion in Kerr spacetime is separable in Boyer-Lindquist coordinates. Using Hamilton-Jacobi theory one can derive a fourth constant of the motion known as Carter’s constant.

The 1967 paper introducing Boyer-Lindquist coordinates was a posthumous publication for Robert H. Boyer, who was killed in the 1966 University of Texas tower shooting.

Mr. Boyer was hit in the lower back. He was the third person shot from, rather than in, the tower. He was 33, and would now be 89 (mathematicians tend to be long lived), which makes one wonder what he might have accomplished in the intervening years.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 25, 2022 • 10:49:13am

re: #332 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Charles Whitman had a brain tumor; this was likely what was responsible for his actions.

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Eventual Carrion  May 25, 2022 • 11:14:17am

re: #322 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah, we should regulate that militia.


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