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austin_blue  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:00:51pm

So we hit 40 C today, 104 F.

We also had a pretty good breeze, which felt like sticking your head into a gas clothes dryer. Well, your whole body, to be honest.

Also, this:

droughtmonitor.unl.edu

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austin_blue  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:06:58pm

Which is going to result in this:

Youtube Video

Time for summer songs! Solstice is behind us.

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Ming5000  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:12:02pm

Huh

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:14:41pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:17:10pm

Lunch today was a birthday crumpet and a cup of tea at a shop in Ligonier, PA.

Topping on the crumpet was a buffalo cream cheese and bleu cheese.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:21:00pm

We should recognize the reactions that Klepper found.

It’s similar to what one gets when trying to confront creationists with actual science.

That is not coincidental.

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calochortus  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:21:43pm

re: #4 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

[Embedded content]

You will change your underwear every day and you will wear it on the outside so we can check it.

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austin_blue  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:21:48pm

re: #5 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

[Embedded content]

Lunch today was a birthday crumpet and a cup of tea at a shop in Ligonier, PA.

Topping on the crumpet was a buffalo cream cheese and bleu cheese.

Happy Birthday!

I love crumpets. Which in the US are English Muffins, and in France are “Pig dogs! We invented those you English Swine!”

Whatever, they’re tasty.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:26:46pm
From the second we’re introduced to Tom Swift, it becomes clear the theme of the series is Black Excellence.

In the first episode of The CW’s new series, we are constantly reminded how ridiculously wealthy the Swifts are. This family of Black geniuses is responsible for most of the world’s technological advancements, and they’re not afraid to let you know it.

What makes all this so special is that in the original early 1900s books, Tom Swift is a blond-haired, blue-eyed, white All-American young man. The books were first published in 1910, so some of them featured extremely racist portrayals of Black people. They were either wild savages or children who couldn’t function without white saviors. There was no in-between.

Fast forward 100 years and now Tom Swift is a successful Black, gay inventor whose family is set to take the world into space. (Yes, even fictional billionaires are trapped in a space race.) Swift Enterprises is ready to send a ship to Saturn, with Tom’s father, Barton, manning the mission. Before he leaves, Barton tells Tom that he’s disappointed in his “sensitive” son and Tom won’t be named acting CEO while he’s gone. If you’ve ever watched TV, you know where this is going.

Tom Swift Is the Black, Queer Hero We’ve Been Waiting For (The Root)

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piratedan  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:36:52pm

re: #6 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

totally agree, these are the people who are fed a steady diet of bullshit for decades.

What would completely blow their minds is to be informed that all of these people testifying against the President are Republicans.

Unsure how we can reach any of these people until we can find a way to shut down Unka Rupes propaganda outlet. It’s addled more brains than weed.

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mmmirele  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:37:03pm

Well, apparently my name and visage has spread among the John MacArthur cult oops, the Grace Community Church attendees. Way to prove that I got to you all. :)

Grace Community Church is running a “Puritan Conference” in early October (even if the stupid background at puritanconference dot org has a picture of Martin Luther and some modern dude in suit & tie as “Puritans”). It looks like a cash cow: $299/head. I think I’m going to dress up as Mary Dyer, one of the Quaker Martyrs who was executed by the Puritan Massachusetts Bay Colony leadership. You can read more about her here: en.wikipedia.org

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jaunte  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:37:04pm

These people Jordan Klepper is interviewing are in so deep they may never get out.

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ckkatz  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:38:24pm

re: #1 austin_blue

Youtube Video

Iirc, keep an eye out for Ogopogo.

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A Three Hour Tour  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:41:06pm

re: #7 calochortus

You will change your underwear every day and you will wear it on the outside so we can check it.

“Bananas! Bananas! Bananas!”

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A Cranky One  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:41:57pm

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austin_blue  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:42:12pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:42:51pm

re: #12 jaunte

These people Jordan Klepper is interviewing are in so deep they may never get out.

There is absolutely no reaching them. Ever. Trump could meet with them face-to-face and say the stolen election belief is total bullshit. These people would say he’s a clone, someone paid him off, or like those two girls, believe the opposite of what he’s telling them.

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sagehen  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:43:20pm

re: #9 Crush White Nationalism

Tom Swift Is the Black, Queer Hero We’ve Been Waiting For (The Root)

I’ve watched the first two episodes, it’s fun in a CW sort of way. It’s a combination of sci-fi, dynasty-type rich family shenanigans, scandal-type political shenanigans, and a little bit of rom-com subtext…

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ckkatz  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:43:34pm

re: #5 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

What brought you to, what in November 1758, was the second largest community in Pennsylvania?

And yes, the Allegheny Mountains, aka “Radio Free Pennsylvania”, are beautiful in the summer.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:44:03pm
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jaunte  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:46:15pm

re: #17 GlutenFreeJesus

“I used to be an American but then I joined a cult celebrating a world-historical monster, and I’m pretty darn satisfied with the whole trip.”

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austin_blue  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:46:41pm

Mungo Jerry:

Youtube Video

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jaunte  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:50:09pm

The hearings are working on some people:

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:51:56pm

re: #19 ckkatz

What brought you to, what in November 1758, was the second largest community in Pennsylvania?

And yes, the Allegheny Mountains, aka “Radio Free Pennsylvania”, are beautiful in the summer.

I was out of loose tea. And the shop I visited is run by the sister of a good friend of mine from college. And it was a good day for a drive up into that area. Need to remember to bring my camera and light hiking gear since there are a number of nice parks, trails, and such all over that area. Plus I’ve never actually visited Fort Ligonier.

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austin_blue  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:52:19pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:56:54pm

I wish they’d also show Jeffrey Clark pleading the 5th 125 times. And all the other creeps.

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austin_blue  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:57:08pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:59:05pm

re: #8 austin_blue

Happy Birthday!

I love crumpets. Which in the US are English Muffins, and in France are “Pig dogs! We invented those you English Swine!”

Whatever, they’re tasty.

Crumpets and English muffins are very different creatures. A Crumpet is a griddle bread, an English muffin is a baked yeast leavened bread. You split an english muffin, a crumpet is not.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:59:25pm

Ooh goody. A new theme.

Youtube Video

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jaunte  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:59:44pm

re: #1 austin_blue

Youtube Video

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sagehen  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:01:16pm
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ckkatz  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:01:51pm
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ckkatz  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:02:54pm

re: #31 sagehen

gmta! Ya beat me by 35 seconds. I was still choosing which version to post.

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sagehen  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:04:09pm

I understand; Miles Davis v. Louis Armstrong is a tough call.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:04:28pm

re: #18 sagehen

I’ve watched the first two episodes, it’s fun in a CW sort of way. It’s a combination of sci-fi, dynasty-type rich family shenanigans, scandal-type political shenanigans, and a little bit of rom-com subtext…

I’ll go in with CW-level expectations.

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ckkatz  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:05:27pm

re: #34 sagehen

I understand; Miles Davis v. Louie Armstrong is a tough call.

And you exactly got the two versions I was trying to decide between!

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austin_blue  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:06:36pm

My job is done!

I am off for the rack.

I have always thought this board contained a shitpot of music geeks. Glad to know I’m right.

Be nice to each other and Slava Ukraini!

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ckkatz  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:07:22pm
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jaunte  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:07:23pm
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ckkatz  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:11:08pm

More about the shooting at the Tysons Corner Mall last Saturday. From the Fairfax County Police Dept:

fcpdnews.wordpress.com

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jaunte  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:13:33pm
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jaunte  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:16:09pm

Oh look, a hive of scum and villainy.

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ckkatz  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:22:01pm

(Swedish)

Youtube Video

High mountains and deep valleys
The forest full of nightingales
High mountains and deep valleys
The friend that pleases me

Come, come, my heart’s very dearest
We shall dance until the morning is here
All the night until the break of day
Come, let us dance ourselves tired

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:28:21pm

These look like collectable guns, rather than very threatening ones, but I do think this farm is a cult compound, and it’s hard to explain a baby that’s sucking on a bullet. That is not normal.

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BeachDem  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:33:52pm

Now I’m feeling all nostalgic. My top ten summer songs from my teen years:

Sealed with a Kiss—Brian Hyland
Summer Song—Chad and Jeremy
It Might as well rain until September—Carole King
My Summer Love—Ruby and the Romantics
Under the Boardwalk—the Drifters
Beach Party—Dave York and the Beachcombers
Theme from a Summer Place—Percy Faith
Summertime, Summertime—the Jamies
See You in September—The Happenings

and #1

Wonderful Summer—Robin (Jackie) Ward (look her up—interesting backstory and a major “voice” of the Partridge Family.)

Youtube Video

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:38:37pm

re: #3 Ming5000

Huh

[Embedded content]

Here’s what the people who have been directly affected by gun violence are seeing with this vote: a crack was made in the wall that prevents gun laws from being passed. That is why you are seeing all those people who have family members that have died from gun violence shouting “History!” while everyone else on the left is going “Huh?”

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piratedan  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:44:29pm
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jaunte  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:47:29pm

re: #45 BeachDem

Youtube Video

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ckkatz  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:50:41pm

re: #44 Crush White Nationalism

Guy sounds like an idiot.

Leaving firearms accessible to children. And leaving expensive collectables accessible to children.

Even if they were demilled, giving a little kid a 4lb metal hammer doesn’t seem particularly wise.

Seems ignorant or performative to me.

The pistols shown appear to be almost all “cap and ball” pistols. If original they would date to around the time of the American Civil War. (1860+- 20 years).

The three components of the ammunition would be loaded separately rather than all being contained in a single cartridge. And they would be designed to fire the lower pressure black powder rather than modern smokeless powder.

(Plus, if they were original, I am not sure how much the century and a half of age and how they were used over that period, in addition to the period metallurgy would affect whether the pistol could even handle the pressure it was originally designed for.)

Additionally, they would likely be single action. Which means that the hammer would have to be cocked before the trigger could be pulled to fire the pistol.

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Captain Ron  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:50:56pm
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Sherlock Hound  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:02:39pm

re: #50 Captain Ron

Come se dici “Bugfuck Nuts” in Italiano?

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jaunte  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:10:23pm
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Belafon  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:13:29pm

Check out the ratio:

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BeachDem  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:14:18pm

re: #52 jaunte

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:16:20pm
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jaunte  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:18:20pm
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Belafon  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:19:59pm

Just a whole string of good tweets I’m going to put in one comment:

A point:

A thread:

A thought:

And another:

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stpaulbear  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:24:10pm
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jaunte  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:32:47pm

Jeff Clark is an ass.

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Egregious Philbin  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:35:03pm

re: #1 austin_blue

Eh…come to Phoenix where we have real heat!

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Targetpractice  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:40:15pm

re: #46 Belafon

Here’s what the people who have been directly affected by gun violence are seeing with this vote: a crack was made in the wall that prevents gun laws from being passed. That is why you are seeing all those people who have family members that have died from gun violence shouting “History!” while everyone else on the left is going “Huh?”

An election-year illusion. One crafted to defuse a political issue before November, allowing Dems to boast about how they “passed something” that was “bipartisan” while Repubs can tell folks back home that the bill does virtually nothing to restrict their ability to keep building arsenals in their homes.

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KingKenrod  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:48:15pm

re: #56 jaunte

If the only possible defense is to stir up a mob and get a pardon from the next GOP president, it makes sense.

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jaunte  Jun 23, 2022 • 10:01:18pm
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Belafon  Jun 23, 2022 • 10:04:32pm

re: #61 Targetpractice

An election-year illusion. One crafted to defuse a political issue before November, allowing Dems to boast about how they “passed something” that was “bipartisan” while Repubs can tell folks back home that the bill does virtually nothing to restrict their ability to keep building arsenals in their homes.

So, what you’re saying is that politicians can be influenced by elections.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 23, 2022 • 10:05:51pm

re: #61 Targetpractice

Some Dem strategists may be looking at this as a way to sow dissension in the GOP. Clearly the gun fetishists are unhappy with the GOP Senators who are going along with this theater.

I don’t know what it is going to take to shift this country towards policies and laws necessary for the 21st century and beyond.

In the past it has taken great wars to make those kinds of changes.

Will that be what happens again?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 23, 2022 • 10:17:14pm

Homework for all of you: watch the video in this tweet:

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mmmirele  Jun 23, 2022 • 10:21:01pm

June 24 is the anniversary of this and how many Americans got introduced to Janey Godley:

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Captain Ron  Jun 23, 2022 • 10:24:30pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 23, 2022 • 10:29:00pm

re: #64 Belafon

So, what you’re saying is that politicians can be influenced by elections.

I’m saying that we’ve been tossed table scraps yet again and been told that this is a “win” because it’s “bipartisan.” That the only sacrifice that was made by Repubs was just allowing the bill to come to a vote. In exchange, they got to water the bill down so far that it’s virtually useless.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 23, 2022 • 10:42:21pm

IMHO Cheney is more effective than Kinzinger. She’s not a good person but very sharp and very impressive.

Wordling
4/6

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 23, 2022 • 10:47:54pm

Redeemed from my 6/6 yesterday. 3/6.

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darthstar  Jun 23, 2022 • 11:05:20pm
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darthstar  Jun 23, 2022 • 11:17:00pm

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Captain Ron  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:31:16am
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Captain Ron  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:05:49am
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Captain Ron  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:16:50am
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Captain Ron  Jun 24, 2022 • 1:20:41am

LOL

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Captain Ron  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:11:21am

I’ve been smelling smoke for the past hour. something is on fire around here.

Ah, that must be it. That’s one of the p;aces I ride my bike.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:17:20am

It’ll take all day to catch up on the Summer songs already posted. Here’s the best, for pure mindlessness:

Youtube Video

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Ming5000  Jun 24, 2022 • 2:52:20am

re: #46 Belafon

Here’s what the people who have been directly affected by gun violence are seeing with this vote: a crack was made in the wall that prevents gun laws from being passed. That is why you are seeing all those people who have family members that have died from gun violence shouting “History!” while everyone else on the left is going “Huh?”

To be clear, my ‘Huh’ (not “Huh?”) was of the ‘I can’t believe this happened’ ilk. It was referring to the vote, and not to Shannon Watts.

I see it is a vague header to the tweet. Apologies.

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Ming5000  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:14:23am

I don’t comprehend the strat/tactical implications of this move. The comments didn’t add a lot of insight. I am glad Ukraine will have more tools to fight the Russians on the water.

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Ming5000  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:15:39am

re: #81 Ming5000

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:20:38am

Morning Lizardim. Has the Supreme Court finished destroying our rights yet?

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:22:55am

re: #81 Ming5000

I don’t comprehend the strat/tactical implications of this move. The comments didn’t add a lot of insight. I am glad Ukraine will have more tools to fight the Russians on the water.

Lightly armed, small, fast, generally good at providing escort cover against small detachments of surface vessels or unconventional assailants. Ships of this class saw a lot of action in WWII as torpedo launchers, so they’re not an empty threat.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:32:06am
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Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:32:26am

re: #84 Dopamine Fish

Lightly armed, small, fast, generally good at providing escort cover against small detachments of surface vessels or unconventional assailants. Ships of this class saw a lot of action in WWII as torpedo launchers, so they’re not an empty threat.

Under real-world stress, the Ukrainians will do something creative with them.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:34:38am

re: #86 Decatur Deb

Under real-world stress, the Ukrainians will do something creative with them.

My thought is that the US sent them to help Ukraine get their grain shipments out into international waters, where the Russians wouldn’t dare to shoot at them. Russia’s Black Sea fleet isn’t so large or powerful that a handful of US patrol boats wouldn’t do some damage in capable hands.

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Ming5000  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:42:05am

What Biden Has Done is a good follow, and this is a good thread.

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sagehen  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:42:46am

this article is about six weeks old, but I only recently ran across it.
Long read, scary, but worth it. ‘

Index: The “Supreme” Court
How SCOTUS was captured, why it matters, and how to set it free.
gregolear.substack.com

The blinking-red danger with a captured Court is that, while we attribute its capture to the “Koch Brothers” as a sort of metonym, we don’t really know who captured it. I mean, it’s called dark money for a reason. Donors don’t have to disclose their identities, not in any meaningful way. For all we know, the Federalist Society is funded by the Vnesheconombank, or the Saudi Arabian Public Investment Fund, or the Princely House of Thurn und Taxis. Are we sure Leonard Leo gets his financing from the Kochs, and not Semion Mogilevich? Regulatory capture of the Supreme Court seems like a mobster move; shouldn’t the onus be on Leo to show that he’s not bankrolled by the Bratva?

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William Lewis  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:47:10am

re: #86 Decatur Deb

Under real-world stress, the Ukrainians will do something creative with them.

I have no doubt we’ll see a launcher for some of those Harpoons we sent them :)

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:47:18am

Easy 3. Great start.

Wordle 370 3/6

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sagehen  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:47:33am

re: #87 Dopamine Fish

My thought is that the US sent them to help Ukraine get their grain shipments out into international waters, where the Russians wouldn’t dare to shoot at them. Russia’s Black Sea fleet isn’t so large or powerful that a handful of US patrol boats wouldn’t do some damage in capable hands.

or Ukraine can cross the Black Sea, and destroy Russian ports.

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William Lewis  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:49:09am

re: #92 sagehen

or Ukraine can cross the Black Sea, and destroy Russian ports.

Mine a couple of harbor entrances…

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:50:05am

re: #92 sagehen

or Ukraine can cross the Black Sea, and destroy Russian ports.

They’re not heavily armed enough for that, although they could be used as a SpecOps platform. The US doesn’t use them anymore, so sending them is generally no big deal.

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The Squire of Logos  Jun 24, 2022 • 3:55:59am

Good morning Lizards! An oldie but a goodie for the summer songs. No breeze here today (at least not yet) but perhaps you will experience a lovely summer breeze where you are.

Youtube Video

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:00:57am

Same redemption. Tough week.

🌳

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:16:29am

My new windows are all installed. The workers are going to finish stripping down the old siding, and prep for installing the new siding next week. My friend’s crew is also going to be in next week to trim the new windows on the inside.

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Ming5000  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:30:20am

With the momentum that the J6 committee seems to have, people are reading the tea leaves.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:38:56am

re: #86 Decatur Deb

Under real-world stress, the Ukrainians will do something creative with them.

use em like an anvil?

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:44:52am

re: #95 The Squire of Logos

Good morning Lizards! An oldie but a goodie for the summer songs. No breeze here today (at least not yet) but perhaps you will experience a lovely summer breeze where you are.

[Embedded content]

Video

Ten Years After, two medlies

summertime / going home - Woodstock

YouTube

summertime / shantung cabbage - Undead

YouTube

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:45:33am

re: #97 Dopamine Fish

My new windows are all installed. The workers are going to finish stripping down the old siding, and prep for installing the new siding next week. My friend’s crew is also going to be in next week to trim the new windows on the inside.

do they still make you press the start button to shutdown?

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:46:49am

re: #101 Dangerman

do they still make you press the start button to shutdown?

I don’t know. I can’t find the any key to continue.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:51:45am

I know the gun bill won’t have much effect on gun violence, but everything in it is worth passing, and getting Republicans to vote for billions in new spending on mental health treatment is nigh on miraculous.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 24, 2022 • 4:58:36am

Damn, milkshakes are a $1 off all this week at Stewart’s.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:00:15am
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William Lewis  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:00:36am

re: #103 No Malarkey!

I know the gun bill won’t have much effect on gun violence, but everything in it is worth passing, and getting Republicans to vote for billions in new spending on mental health treatment is nigh on miraculous.

If there is even a penny allocated for spending on that, I’ll be shocked. Turtle Head will ensure it’s starved to death.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:00:38am

Current mood.

Youtube Video

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:01:50am

re: #73 darthstar

I went and found the tweet, and this was in the original tweets replies:

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Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:05:09am

re: #99 Dangerman

use em like an anvil?

[Embedded content]

Embedded Image

Rig a couple with AI and use them for Harpoon bait.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:05:14am

re: #87 Dopamine Fish

My thought is that the US sent them to help Ukraine get their grain shipments out into international waters, where the Russians wouldn’t dare to shoot at them. Russia’s Black Sea fleet isn’t so large or powerful that a handful of US patrol boats wouldn’t do some damage in capable hands.

Hell, I’d think that some cruise missiles with conventional warheads would send the Black Sea fleet to the bottom so fast, Admiral Tōgō’s ghost would be chuckling in amusement.

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Teukka  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:12:01am

Wait. What. WTF!?

Demo by teachers of school in Klin, Moscow Region. Written on the poster - ‘One people, one nation, one ruler’ - a literal translation of the German Nazi slogan ‘Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer.

Yes, these people believe that they can carry out “denazification” somewhere

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:13:02am

re: #111 Teukka

Recommend watching the video I posted in the tweet of mine earlier.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:14:23am

re: #111 Teukka

Wait. What. WTF!?

Demo by teachers of school in Klin, Moscow Region. Written on the poster - ‘One people, one nation, one ruler’ - a literal translation of the German Nazi slogan ‘Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer.

Yes, these people believe that they can carry out “denazification” somewhere

Good ploy if they were coerced into a photo op.

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Teukka  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:19:57am

re: #112 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Recommend watching the video I posted in the tweet of mine earlier.

This here vid? Ogling…

re: #66 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Homework for all of you: watch the video in this tweet:

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:25:39am
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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:26:45am
“The former Wisconsin Supreme Court justice hired to investigate President Joe Biden’s victory in the battleground state testified Thursday that he routinely deleted records, and deactivated a personal email account, even after receiving open records requests,” the AP reports.

….
[Republican Assembly Speaker Robin] Vos hired Gableman a year ago under pressure from Donald Trump to investigate the former president’s loss to Biden by just under 21,000 votes in Wisconsin. The investigation has cost taxpayers about $900,000 so far. Biden’s victory has survived two recounts, multiple lawsuits, a nonpartisan audit and a review by a conservative law firm.

where’s the Rs calling for like 15 new investigations?

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:28:05am

re: #70 Hecuba’s daughter

IMHO Cheney is more effective than Kinzinger. She’s not a good person but very sharp and very impressive.

Wordling
4/6

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4/6. Was hoping to get it on 2nd guess, but no such luck. Had to go through all possibilities to finally get it.

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Teukka  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:31:16am
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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:31:22am

the problem with all these breathtaking….takes, is, while yes, relatively it is ‘the most significant in decades’ in absolute terms of something significant and constructive, it’s nearly totally worthless

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:44:54am
“I think if you can step back, what’s going on here right now in the Republican Party… 50% roughly of the Republicans would walk off the cliff for Donald Trump. Now I think at least 20% want to push him off the cliff.”

— Bob Woodward, on CNN.

would that it were

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:45:45am

Friday Omelet

Good morning and Happy Friday!

122
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:47:16am

re: #17 GlutenFreeJesus

There is absolutely no reaching them. Ever. Trump could meet with them face-to-face and say the stolen election belief is total bullshit. These people would say he’s a clone, someone paid him off, or like those two girls, believe the opposite of what he’s telling them.

Trump could shoot a pregnant woman in front of them and they would not only call it justifiable homicide, they would praise him for saving America by doing so.

123
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:48:41am

re: #51 Sherlock Hound

Come se dici “Bugfuck Nuts” in Italiano?

Meschuggiamo

124
Ming5000  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:53:26am

re: #121 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Oh. That picture really draws me in. Yum.

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Teukka  Jun 24, 2022 • 5:58:19am

re: #112 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Recommend watching the video I posted in the tweet of mine earlier.

re: #114 Teukka

This here vid? Ogling…

Jesus. Beeping. Christ.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 6:00:49am
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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 6:04:29am
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TarHellion  Jun 24, 2022 • 6:08:35am

Wordle 370 3/6

🟩🟨⬜⬜🟩
🟩⬜🟩🟩🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

Finally got back to a 3/6! Should have been a 2 but talked myself out of it. Had to chuckle because it made me think of a movie line. Have a great Friday and weekend, folks!

129
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 6:10:18am

Rushing the months, but this is a summer song if there ever was one:

Youtube Video

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 6:11:02am

and this song is actually set in autumn

Youtube Video

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 24, 2022 • 6:13:54am

I think the Chinese have been propping up the Russians.

The Russian ruble has rebounded from crippling economic sanctions imposed on Moscow following the invasion of Ukraine and is now at its strongest in more than seven years — earning it the distinction of being the best-performing currency in the world so far this year.

The ruble was trading at 54.47 to the US dollar on Thursday — a far cry from the 139 to the dollar that the currency fell to in March, when the US and the European Union sanctioned the Kremlin for its invasion of Ukraine.

Since the start of the year, the ruble has soared 40% against the dollar — outperforming every other currency in the world.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has touted the ruble’s robust recovery as proof that his economy has successfully withstood the onslaught of Western sanctions.

“The idea was clear: crush the Russian economy violently,” Putin told an economic forum in St. Petersburg last week. “They did not succeed. Obviously, that didn’t happen.”

nypost.com

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 6:15:43am
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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 6:19:02am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 6:19:16am

re: #131 Shropshire Slasher

I think the Chinese have been propping up the Russians.

nypost.com

The Russian economy can be highly elf-sufficient if they do not measure their standards of living and technology against the rest of the world. We overlook that fact.

They will always have enough to eat and enough fuel to burn, unlike Europe, which is dependent on imports of both.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 6:19:59am
136
jeffreyw  Jun 24, 2022 • 6:21:58am

Meatball Soup

Good morning!

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BigPapa  Jun 24, 2022 • 6:22:27am

re: #133 Dangerman

I would say the Civil War was the biggest scandal. So the GQP Sedition would be 3rd biggest, after The Email Lady.

138
dat_said  Jun 24, 2022 • 6:22:52am

Important trademark news…

The Ohio State University trademarks “THE” - though I always thought it was Thee Ohio State University.

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sagehen  Jun 24, 2022 • 6:23:02am

re: #123 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Meschuggiamo

remarkably similar to the Yiddish Meshugenah.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 6:23:34am
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Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2022 • 6:25:28am

re: #118 Teukka

That’s a clearer video of the launch. If you step through the first 4 seconds, you can see a smoke trail that might be a previous circular flight.

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Teukka  Jun 24, 2022 • 6:34:56am

re: #141 Decatur Deb

That’s a clearer video of the launch. If you step through the first 4 seconds, you can see a smoke trail that might be a previous circular flight.

Or a launch which went wrong as well, but not as EPICally wrong as the main event.

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BigPapa  Jun 24, 2022 • 6:35:45am

Snicker

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 6:42:14am

re: #111 Teukka

Wait. What. WTF!?

There’s a picture from Nazi Germany of a group of women who worked at a concentration camp, all smiling for the group photo.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2022 • 6:42:43am
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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 6:49:34am

re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Rushing the months, but this is a summer song if there ever was one:

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Video

Youtube Video

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 6:52:10am

re: #132 Dangerman

It took the entire DOJ leadership threatening to resign to demonstrate how farcical the letter was to stop this aspect of Trump’s scheme.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 6:54:26am
Alex Holder, a British documentary filmmaker who had extensive access to Donald Trump and his family ahead of and after the 2020 election, is testifying this morning behind closed doors to the January 6 Committee, the New York Times reports.

They let him!
They let him record a criminal fucking conspiracy

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2022 • 6:56:53am

re: #149 Dangerman

They let him!
They let him record a criminal fucking conspiracy

Here’s the thing - had Trump succeeded, none of this would have mattered because they’d take the recordings as proof of being there in person at the founding of the fascist US government.

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cat-tikvah  Jun 24, 2022 • 6:57:28am

re: #149 Dangerman

How fitting and karmic if arrogance and hubris are their downfall.
Filming their glorious legacy.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:02:05am

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:02:35am

Its 10am, we are now minutes, if not seconds, away from Gilead. Blessed be the fruit.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:04:00am

First opinion today.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:07:52am

re: #149 Dangerman

They let him!
They let him record a criminal fucking conspiracy

They really thought they’d succeed.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:08:33am

re: #155 GlutenFreeJesus

They really thought they’d succeed.

They live in a bubble.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:09:24am

Today’s a good reminder that there’s been no progress on who leaked the Roe draft opinion. Weird how that happened. It’s as though no one cares one of the justices released it by and through staff or their spouse.

All the talk about that justice being forced to resign from the Court is also silent - because the GOP knows damned well that it was likely Thomas, and they need Thomas to end Roe and a whole load of other rights that right wingers want to dismantle.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:10:04am

re: #119 Dangerman

the problem with all these breathtaking….takes, is, while yes, relatively it is ‘the most significant in decades’ in absolute terms of something significant and constructive, it’s nearly totally worthless

This argument was made for the infrastructure bill and the ACA.

I totally get it, it’s not any major change in anything. But it’s a change. It just signaled that gun laws can be passed. And Republicans know it as well, which is why people like Greitens (?sp) decided they could threaten other Republicans.

I’m sure Shannon Watts and BrooklynDadDefiant know that this isn’t going to change a whole lot in absolute terms. But it’s passage is a milestone. How many school massacres couldn’t get any bill through?

We can either argue that it’s an ineffective bill, or we can argue that we can do something about our gun problem. Remember what running away from the ACA did to Republicans?

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:13:00am

re: #158 Belafon

This latest gun bill is a step forward, but likely to be undone by the same SCOTUS that will take up the law the moment it is signed into law as someone will question the constitutionality of restricting right to bear arms.

The core problem at this point isn’t Democrats’ willingness to pass laws that help improve health and safety for all Americans, but the GOP obstructionism is backstopped by a right wing extremist SCOTUS.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:14:37am

re: #158 Belafon

This argument was made for the infrastructure bill and the ACA.

I totally get it, it’s not any major change in anything. But it’s a change. It just signaled that gun laws can be passed. And Republicans know it as well, which is why people like Greitens (?sp) decided they could threaten other Republicans.

I’m sure Shannon Watts and BrooklynDadDefiant know that this isn’t going to change a whole lot in absolute terms. But it’s passage is a milestone. How many school massacres couldn’t get any bill through?

We can either argue that it’s an ineffective bill, or we can argue that we can do something about our gun problem. Remember what running away from the ACA did to Republicans?

Its something, and that’s better than nothing, IMO. Just getting Republicans to vote for billions in funding for mental health treatment, even if its only because they are trying to blame anything other than guns for gun homicides, is good in and of itself. This country desperately needs more mental health treatment.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:14:44am

Democrats are going to have to run on fixing this Supreme Court and fixing their decisions.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:15:04am

And there it is. Under his eye.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:15:23am

re: #149 Dangerman

They let him!
They let him record a criminal fucking conspiracy

That’s one of Trumps biggest vulnerabilities IMO. The asshole loves being on camera. And while he’s on camera, he’s prone to say just about anything. He has no filter.

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danarchy  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:15:41am

I am seeing banners that say supreme court overturns roe v wade, has the decision come down?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:15:58am

re: #162 No Malarkey!

And there it is. Under his eye.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:16:13am

re: #162 No Malarkey!

So does this mean abortion is now illegal in about half the fucking country. Just like that?

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:16:31am

It is done.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:17:14am

Settled Law in America

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:18:02am

re: #166 Eclectic Cyborg

So does this mean abortion is now illegal in about half the fucking country. Just like that?

Yes it does. Any abortion provider in trigger law states must stop performing abortions immediately to avoid criminal prosecution.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:18:02am

re: #166 Eclectic Cyborg

So does this mean abortion is now illegal in about half the fucking country. Just like that?

That’s exactly what it means. State laws that outlawed abortion that were previously suspended due to Roe/Casey are back in effect.

State laws that would take effect on the overturn of Roe are now in effect.

They’ve just criminalized abortion. This is an unprecedented assault on women’s rights, health care, and reproductive rights. It’s as extreme as it gets.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:18:09am

a snippage of the opinion:

8 DOBBS v. JACKSON WOMEN’S HEALTH ORGANIZATION
Syllabus
“strong presumption of validity.” Heller v. Doe, 509 U. S. 312, 319. It
must be sustained if there is a rational basis on which the legislature
could have thought that it would serve legitimate state interests. Id.,
at 320.
Mississippi’s Gestational Age Act is supported by the Mississippi
Legislature’s specific findings, which include the State’s asserted in-
terest in “protecting the life of the unborn.” §2(b)(i). These legitimate
interests provide a rational basis for the Gestational Age Act, and it
follows that respondents’ constitutional challenge must fail. Pp. 76-
78.
(e) Abortion presents a profound moral question. The Constitution
does not prohibit the citizens of each State from regulating or prohib-
iting abortion. Roe and Casey arrogated that authority. The Court
overrules those decisions and returns that authority to the people and
their elected representatives. Pp. 78-79.
945 F. 3d 265, reversed and remanded.
ALITO , J., delivered the opinion of the Court, in which THOMAS , G OR-
SUCH, KAVANAUGH, and BARRETT , JJ., joined. THOMAS , J., and KA-
VANAUGH, J., filed concurring opinions. ROBERTS , C. J., filed an opinion
concurring in the judgment. BREYER, SOTOMAYOR, and KAGAN, JJ., filed
a dissenting opinion.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:18:18am

I may stay off social media this weekend. The RWNJs are going to be INSUFFERABLE (even more so than usual).

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austin_blue  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:18:36am

Well, shit. Knew it was coming. But reality bites.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:19:54am

re: #172 Eclectic Cyborg

I may stay off social media this weekend. The RWNJs are going to be INSUFFERABLE (even more so than usual).

Yep. They are clogging up SCOTUSblog twitter right now. It’s sick.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:20:43am

re: #172 Eclectic Cyborg

I may stay off social media this weekend. The RWNJs are going to be INSUFFERABLE (even more so than usual).

A number of people on facebook who opposed abortion in general still wanted a rape or incest provision. Gonna have to see what they say now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:20:50am

re: #173 austin_blue

Well, shit. Knew it was coming. But reality bites.

This is just the first step: they will work on making it impossible to access abortions anywhere in the USA.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:21:07am

I wonder why he didn’t mention reconsidering Loving? /

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:21:32am

re: #175 Belafon

A number of people on facebook who opposed abortion in general still wanted a rape or incest provision. Gonna have to see what they say now.

Either you treasure and respect the sanctity of all unborn life or you are a baby killer.

Choose your side.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:22:09am

Thomas has laid the groundwork for overturning a whole raft of substantive due process cases, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell.

This opinion is as extreme as the draft opinion.

This is why the GOP has gone silent on prosecuting the leaker. It was likely Thomas or Alito.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:22:58am

Well, looks like the dog finally caught the car. What next? Oh, wait, looks like Thomas has already laid it out: The next target is LGBTQ rights.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:24:52am

re: #180 Dopamine Fish

Well, looks like the dog finally caught the car. What next? Oh, wait, looks like Thomas has already laid it out: The next target is LGBTQ rights.

I predict that before the end of the year, a red state will pass a test law to ban same sex marriage.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:25:11am

Trump/McConnell has criminalized women’s right to access to health care and reproductive care in particular. This court packed with right wing extremists is going to roll back decades of progress, and Thomas and Alito are going to drive the nation into a dystopian future where white guys get to rape women and force women to carry to term, and get away with it.

This isn’t pro life. It’s a forced birth extremism, and the next step will be for suits against states that protect the right to abortion by claiming that life is sacred regardless and overrule state’s rights.

This decision is predictably as extreme as it gets and ignores jurisprudence and stare decisis. Same as yesterday’s decision on firearms and concealed carry.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:25:14am

re: #158 Belafon

This argument was made for the infrastructure bill and the ACA.

I totally get it, it’s not any major change in anything. But it’s a change. It just signaled that gun laws can be passed. And Republicans know it as well, which is why people like Greitens (?sp) decided they could threaten other Republicans.

I’m sure Shannon Watts and BrooklynDadDefiant know that this isn’t going to change a whole lot in absolute terms. But it’s passage is a milestone. How many school massacres couldn’t get any bill through?

We can either argue that it’s an ineffective bill, or we can argue that we can do something about our gun problem. Remember what running away from the ACA did to Republicans?

i do agree

but if they keep hyping only the “significance” part (without explaining what is and isnt ‘significant’ about it), then there might be less motivation to revisit it

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:26:19am

re: #181 No Malarkey!

I predict that before the end of the year, a red state will pass a test law to ban same sex marriage.

Not even. We’re going back to the days of sodomy laws, Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, the whole works.

185
The Pie Overlord!  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:26:38am

Fuck. Nothing matters any more.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:27:21am

If you know anyone who needs the help, aidaccess.org provides help to purchase mail order abortion drugs which will be filled by overseas pharmacies and mailed to states where abortion is now illegal.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:28:15am

re: #180 Dopamine Fish

Well, looks like the dog finally caught the car. What next? Oh, wait, looks like Thomas has already laid it out: The next target is LGBTQ rights all the gains we have made over the past 75 years in personal freedoms, women’s, LGBTQ and minority rights, leading to the establishment of a Christian Fundamentalist theocracy in America..

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:29:52am

Current mood (nsfw):

Youtube Video

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:29:53am

re: #187 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I said “next target”. They’ve clearly got a long row set up to fire upon, I’m just looking at the immediate future and who is going to get fucked over next.

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wrenchwench  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:30:33am

re: #186 No Malarkey!

If you know anyone who needs the help, aidaccess.org provides help to purchase mail order abortion drugs which will be filled by overseas pharmacies and mailed to states where abortion is now illegal.

10 weeks go by so fast. The pills should be used before 10 weeks.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:30:53am

So where are all the right wingers with their guns who go on and on about the need for them when the government takes rights away? Yeah. Thought so.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:31:19am

in the opinion, this part really ticks me off:

(e) Abortion presents a profound moral question.

activist judges blatantly legislating morals from the bench, and proud of it

*SPIT*

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:31:35am

Well, today as predicted officially marks the end of the judicial precedent as a concept of the US legal system and the new order of Judicial edict under a corrupted Republican manufactured SCOTUS is now in full effect.

We are no longer any sort of real democracy. We are now fully a Hybrid Regime - defined as a developing autocracy using the trappings of democracy as cover. We are a broken democracy and with Republicans positioning partisans in key electoral counting positions and election poll policing/thugs we are set for full autocracy starting in 2025.

general strikes, underground railroads, US Military firing on US citizens, etc. this is not the 1800’s…, this is going to happen again now .

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:31:37am

re: #189 Dopamine Fish

I said “next target”. They’ve clearly got a long row set up to fire upon, I’m just looking at the immediate future and who is going to get fucked over next.

True, LGBTQs are an easy target and they are clearly lined up in the Fundamentalists’ sights as we speak. But the ultimate goal is American Talibanism.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:32:17am

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:32:46am

My heart breaks for all the women that are going to get fucked over (and in some cases killed) as a result of this ruling.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:32:56am

re: #11 mmmirele

Well, apparently my name and visage has spread among the John MacArthur cult oops, the Grace Community Church attendees. Way to prove that I got to you all. :)

[Embedded content]

Grace Community Church is running a “Puritan Conference” in early October (even if the stupid background at puritanconference dot org has a picture of Martin Luther and some modern dude in suit & tie as “Puritans”). It looks like a cash cow: $299/head. I think I’m going to dress up as Mary Dyer, one of the Quaker Martyrs who was executed by the Puritan Massachusetts Bay Colony leadership. You can read more about her here: en.wikipedia.org

WAY TO GO!

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:34:23am
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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:34:25am

re: #194 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

True, LGBTQs are an easy target and they are clearly lined up in the Fundamentalists’ sights as we speak. But the ultimate goal is American Talibanism.

As someone said, just call it Christian Nationalism. There’s no reason to call it anything else.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:34:33am

re: #193 Florida Panhandler

We are no longer any sort of real democracy. We are now fully a Hybrid Regime - defined as a developing autocracy using the trappings of democracy as cover. We are a broken democracy and with Republicans positioning partisans in key electoral counting positions and election poll policing/thugs we are set for full autocracy starting in 2025.

.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:35:48am

So, I live in a state with a trigger law. That means abortion is illegal here again.

Now, I face the decision of whether or not to to step up and do what I can to help women in this state get the care they need, knowing there will be legal risks to myself in doing so.

Fuck…

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:36:10am
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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:36:32am

re: #199 Belafon

As someone said, just call it Christian Nationalism. There’s no reason to call it anything else.

Nationalist Christians. Nat-Cs for short.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:38:13am

Fuck them all. And an extra special fuck you to Susan Collins.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:38:54am

As always, Fox News gonna Fox News. Current lead banner on their website:

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Teukka  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:39:07am

re: #203 Crush White Nationalism

Nationalist Christians. Nat-Cs for short.

Nat-Cee’s?

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:40:27am

Now we push for national laws codifying all of these.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:41:00am

re: #201 Eclectic Cyborg

So, I live in a state with a trigger law. That means abortion is illegal here again.

Now, I face the decision of whether or not to to step up and do what I can to help women in this state get the care they need, knowing there will be legal risks to myself in doing so.

Fuck…

I live in a state where abortion is legal for now. I want to help women but need to figure out how. I’ve got time and no fucks left to give but no money. I see all kinds of places to donate but need to find out where boots on the ground can help.

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Moe Avattar  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:41:15am

re: #203 Crush White Nationalism

They already call themselves “National Conservatives”

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EstebanTornado1963  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:41:19am

Fuck the SCOTUS

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:41:51am

re: #204 Teddy’s Person

Fuck them all. And an extra special fuck you to Susan Collins.

I’m sure she’s appropriately concerned about this ruling.

//

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:42:01am

re: #190 wrenchwench

10 weeks go by so fast. The pills should be used before 10 weeks.

Its an imperfect solution to a massive problem.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:42:33am

re: #207 Belafon

Now we push for national laws codifying all of these.

Won’t happen until we get Manchin and Sinema out of the fucking way.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:43:23am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:44:06am
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darthstar  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:44:40am

Good morning, unless you’re a woman of child bearing age, in which case I say I’m sorry for SCOTUS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:45:04am
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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:45:15am

re: #201 Eclectic Cyborg

So, I live in a state with a trigger law. That means abortion is illegal here again.

Now, I face the decision of whether or not to to step up and do what I can to help women in this state get the care they need, knowing there will be legal risks to myself in doing so.

Fuck…

Here in Kentucky, all abortion is now illegal from the moment of conception effective immediately, unless the woman is dying. No exception for rape or incest.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:45:46am

re: #213 Eclectic Cyborg

Won’t happen until we get Manchin and Sinema out of the fucking way.

Which will be part of the push. It all depends on this November.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:46:10am

re: #214 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:46:14am
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wrenchwench  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:46:54am

re: #212 No Malarkey!

Its an imperfect solution to a massive problem.

Over-the-counter in civilized countries, like Mexico.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:47:57am

re: #219 Belafon

Which will be part of the push. It all depends on this November.

And I tell you, if THIS doesn’t get people out to vote blue, I’m not sure what will.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:48:05am

re: #213 Eclectic Cyborg

Won’t happen until we get Manchin and Sinema out of the fucking way.

Which requires electing more Democrats. If the closure of all of the abortion clinics in half the country doesn’t drive people to the polls to stop fascism, I don’t know what will.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:48:06am

I almost want to find a Republican state and urge them to pass a bill overturning Loving just to have something directed at Thomas.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:48:29am

re: #224 No Malarkey!

GMTA

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:48:48am

re: #218 No Malarkey!

Here in Kentucky, all abortion is now illegal from the moment of conception effective immediately, unless the woman is dying. No exception for rape or incest.

Same situation in my state.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:49:35am

Republicans will spend a day talking about Roe, and then pivot to drag queens because they know Roe was popular.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:49:36am

re: #220 Crush White Nationalism

Keep in mind that these people still represent a minority of Americans, but our electoral and representative system favors the Republican Party to such an extent that they have been given the ability to impose their will against a majority.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:49:45am

re: #204 Teddy’s Person

Fuck them all. And an extra special fuck you to Susan Collins.

[Embedded content]

wrongly decided

so the 7-2 scotus in 1973 were a bunch of know nothing hacks
and it’s a good thing you came along to straighten them out?

tell me brett

was plessy ‘wrongly decided’?
brown?
maybe dred scott?

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:49:59am
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EstebanTornado1963  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:50:11am

I fully expect the pussy police to be totally more aggressive toward violence to these protesters than the white trumphumpers on January 6th

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:50:35am

re: #228 Belafon

Republicans will spend a day talking about Roe, and then pivot to drag queens because they know Roe was popular.

“Why talk about it? It’s (re-)settled law!”

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:50:59am

re: #223 Eclectic Cyborg

And I tell you, if THIS doesn’t get people out to vote blue, I’m not sure what will.

You beat me by eight seconds. GMTA.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:52:36am
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Teddy's Person  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:53:08am

re: #230 Dangerman

[Embedded content]

wrongly decided

so the 7-2 scotus in 1973 were a bunch of know nothing hacks
and it’s a good thing you came along to straighten them out?

tell me brett

was plessy ‘wrongly decided’?
brown?
maybe dred scott?

Yes No, bring back seperate but equal
Yes and
Yes

Wait until Gorsuch gets his freak on and they bring back Lochner to overturn employment protections and get rid of unions.

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Camp Waconda  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:53:22am

NARRATOR: They won’t

re: #231 lawhawk

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:54:03am

Right wing propagandists are tweeting about “Night of Rage” trying to induce violence by calling on anti-choice folks to prepare for attacks on Catholic churches and those pro-birthing places when there’s no such thing as a Night of Rage.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:54:09am

re: #237 Camp Waconda

NARRATOR: They won’t

Be specific about “they.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:54:53am

re: #228 Belafon

Republicans will spend a day talking about Roe, and then pivot to drag queens because they know Roe was popular.

They can try, but the realities of this decision will last MUCH longer than a day. Wait until we start seeing stories about the arrests of doctors and pregnant women and the coat hanger abortions.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:54:56am

Hillary was 100% right; the SCOTUS and future of civil, voting, and women’s rights was on the chopping block if Trump and McConnell got their way. And they did.

Now, Roe is done. And all the other substantive due process cases are likewise on the chopping block with Alito and Thomas providing the guidelines for how to end all those civil, voting, and women’s rights.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:54:59am

re: #121 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

[Embedded content]

Good morning and Happy Friday!

Western good morning!

We are weeds, if you please!

They’re everywhere this season — maybe more drought tolerant than their neighbors?

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wrenchwench  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:55:06am

Sex education needs to start in 3rd grade so girls can learn how to stay unpregnant. Girls need to know that when any man makes them feel uncomfortable, the girl can tell the man or boy to move away and leave them alone.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:55:47am

re: #239 Belafon

Be specific about “they.”

Manchin and Sinema. They’ll keep the filibuster knowing full well that it means that SCOTUS will continue to roll back decades of progress.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:56:57am

Hope you’re happy, Jill Stein voters!

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wrenchwench  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:57:28am

re: #243 wrenchwench

Sex education needs to start in 3rd grade so girls can learn how to stay unpregnant. Girls need to know that when any man makes them feel uncomfortable, the girl can tell the man or boy to move away and leave them alone.

Second grade. First grade.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:57:48am

re: #243 wrenchwench

Sex education needs to start in 3rd grade so girls can learn how to stay unpregnant. Girls need to know that when any man makes them feel uncomfortable, the girl can tell the man or boy to move away and leave them alone.

The RW answer is to treat women like property: teach girls to recognize when their father’s/husband’s property rights are being unduly threatened by anyone’s advances, whereupon they have the right to use 2A solutions to enforce those rights.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:57:52am
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mmmirele  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:58:04am

My current state of mind:

Youtube Video

ETA need a version of “Mississippi Goddam” called “America Goddam”

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:58:32am

re: #245 Eclectic Cyborg

Hope you’re happy, Jill Stein voters!

1. Guess what happens when you hope to burn it all down? People die.
2. I’m not going to waste any energy yelling at these people. It’s better used on fixing this.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:58:38am

re: #243 wrenchwench

Sex education needs to start in 3rd grade so girls can learn how to stay unpregnant.

South Park did an episode about such years ago.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:58:55am

re: #245 Eclectic Cyborg

Hope you’re happy, Jill Stein voters!

Heighten the contradictions. The first step to achieving socialist utopia is to first have a fascist dictatorship.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:59:01am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:59:24am

re: #252 No Malarkey!

Heighten the contradictions. The first step to achieving socialist utopia is to first have a fascist dictatorship.

The darkness before the dawn?

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Teddy's Person  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:59:28am

Susan Sarandon assured me it was more important to wish for unicorns.

In the Handmaid’s Tale the infertile/past child bearing years sevant women were called Marthas. I propose we call them Susans in the New Gilead.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:59:38am

re: #249 mmmirele

Youtube Video

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 24, 2022 • 7:59:42am
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wrenchwench  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:00:15am

re: #247 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The RW answer is to treat women like property: teach girls to recognize when their father’s/husband’s property rights are being unduly threatened by anyone’s advances, whereupon they have the right to use 2A solutions to enforce those rights.

The human answer is to make girls aware that they have the right to say no, especially when it’s their father or other man in their house. It must be taught in school, because it won’t be taught at home.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:00:25am

I’m so fucking angry right now.

That’s it.

That’s the comment.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:00:25am

re: #238 Barefoot Grin

Right wing propagandists are tweeting about “Night of Rage” trying to induce violence by calling on anti-choice folks to prepare for attacks on Catholic churches and those pro-birthing places when there’s no such thing as a Night of Rage.

Yep, they’ll be out in droves in their grotesque parody uniforms waving their popguns against a non-existent Mau-Mau abortion horde. With any luck they will end up shooting at each other. Some clever person might in fact find a way to induce this.

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wrenchwench  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:01:19am

re: #251 Eclectic Cyborg

South Park did an episode about such years ago.

Play the tape in second grade.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:02:04am

re: #245 Eclectic Cyborg

Hope you’re happy, Jill Stein voters!

They’re absolutely thrilled.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:02:20am

re: #257 DodgerFan1988

This is what Democrats everywhere should run on in November. A vote for Republicans is a vote for a nationwide abortion ban.

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Teukka  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:02:49am

For starters, what about making big noise about recommending females stay away from states which have outlawed abortion, akin to state dept advisories, and warning foreigners that the US justice system has to be seen as compromised?
Like, for the latter, bring up that corrupt judge and pals in TX that still do patent trolling, and other abuses of the system?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:05:01am

re: #264 Teukka

The problem is the women that will be most affected by this decision are those that do not have the means to easily move to or travel to another state. Women with enough money will just go somewhere the procedure is still legal.

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Teukka  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:05:51am

re: #265 Eclectic Cyborg

The problem is the women that will be most affected by this decision are those that do not have the means to easily move to or travel to another state. Women with enough money will just go somewhere the procedure is still legal.

I meant as in doing above internationally.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:06:48am

aidaccess.org got knocked offline due to the traffic. I hope.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:06:56am
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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:07:11am
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wrenchwench  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:08:25am

re: #265 Eclectic Cyborg

The problem is the women that will be most affected by this decision are those that do not have the means to easily move to or travel to another state. Women with enough money will just go somewhere the procedure is still legal.

Yes. As always, the poor are hit hardest. If you’re under 18, you’re poor. You don’t need a driver’s license to get pregnant.

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EstebanTornado1963  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:08:44am

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:10:14am

re: #267 GlutenFreeJesus

aidaccess.org got knocked offline due to the traffic. I hope.

Their traffic is going to expand exponentially now that the need for it has vastly increased. They are going to need to expand their capacity by orders of magnitude.

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Teukka  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:11:33am

Just an idea, but making noise in stores which carry coat hangers, saying they’re banned, but that the law was so poorly written it covers all coat hangers and not just the steel wire ones…

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Teukka  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:13:15am

It’s official, you have more rights in the US as a gun, literally an inanimate object, than you do as a woman.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:13:40am

Time to buy stocks in orphanages.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:14:05am

We will also need a big expansion in the capacity of blue state abortion clinics with all the additional traffic that is going to be headed their way.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:14:28am

re: #265 Eclectic Cyborg

The problem is the women that will be most affected by this decision are those that do not have the means to easily move to or travel to another state. Women with enough money will just go somewhere the procedure is still legal.

But the Texas state laws are drafted to allow it to apply to women who leave the state to seek an abortion.

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Teukka  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:15:52am

re: #273 Teukka

Just an idea, but making noise in stores which carry coat hangers, saying they’re banned, but that the law was so poorly written it covers all coat hangers and not just the steel wire ones…

re: #274 Teukka

It’s official, you have more rights in the US as a gun, literally an inanimate object, than you do as a woman.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:15:54am

re: #275 Barefoot Grin

Time to buy stocks in orphanages.

One of Alito’s goals was to expand the domestic supply of orphans, because to him women are breeding livestock for the state.

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wrenchwench  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:16:37am

re: #275 Barefoot Grin

Time to buy stocks in orphanages.

Yes. Most women who seek abortions already have children.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:16:42am
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calochortus  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:16:57am

re: #277 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But the Texas state laws are drafted to allow it to apply to women who leave the state to seek an abortion.

Which will make for an interesting court case. Does a state own its citizens? Can I go gamble in Nevada if gambling is illegal in my state?

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austin_blue  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:17:07am

re: #277 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But the Texas state laws are drafted to allow it to apply to women who leave the state to seek an abortion.

And the Texas AG, Ken Fucking Paxton, just let all AG Office employees leave at noon today to celebrate the ruling and says each June 24th will forever be a State Holiday for the AG’s employees.

I thought it was a parody site. It isn’t.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:17:31am

re: #277 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But the Texas state laws are drafted to allow it to apply to women who leave the state to seek an abortion.

Something we will soon see just happened in Brazil: a judge put a pregnant eleven year old rape victim in jail to make sure she can’t get an abortion.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:18:02am

re: #277 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But the Texas state laws are drafted to allow it to apply to women who leave the state to seek an abortion.

Yep. And other red states are headed in that direction. Where I am in the Deep South, the closest blue state (using the 2020 election map as a reference) is Virginia and that’s an over 12 hour drive away. This would mean any woman from here who wanted to get an abortion is looking at a travel commitment of at least four days unless they can afford to fly.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:18:26am

re: #284 No Malarkey!

Something we will soon see just happened in Brazil: a judge put a pregnant eleven year old rape victim in jail to make sure she can’t get an abortion.

Or what almost happened to that American lady in Malta earlier this week.

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BigPapa  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:18:43am

The timing of J6 Hearings and Roe V Wade getting overturned is striking. As if we’re at the banks of the Handmaid’s Tale Rubicon.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:18:51am

re: #278 Teukka

Money and corporations also have more rights than women. Women have no rights that a white man is bound to respect. This is the tragic result of the failure to ratify the ERA.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:19:06am

re: #282 calochortus

Which will make for an interesting court case. Does a state own its citizens? Can I go gamble in Nevada if gambling is illegal in my state?

they don’t care about gambling, they want to ban abortions. and by TX law, leaving the state to obtain one is illegal in itself and anyone who aids her in any way to leave the the state can be charged with aiding and abetting.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:19:19am

re: #264 Teukka

For starters, what about making big noise about recommending females stay away from states which have outlawed abortion, akin to state dept advisories, and warning foreigners that the US justice system has to be seen as compromised?
Like, for the latter, bring up that corrupt judge and pals in TX that still do patent trolling, and other abuses of the system?

let pregnant tourists know that some states are now the same as Malta

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wrenchwench  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:19:52am

re: #284 No Malarkey!

Something we will soon see just happened in Brazil: a judge put a pregnant eleven year old rape victim in jail to make sure she can’t get an abortion.

Every pregnancy is an impending threat of injury. That judge should be in jail.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:20:31am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:20:33am

This will also affect army recruitment: women are not going to want to be stationed in states where they cannot obtain an abortion. (and we all know that our soldiers are natural-born baby-killers…)

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calochortus  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:21:32am

re: #289 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

they don’t care about gambling, they want to ban abortions. and by TX law, leaving the state to obtain one is illegal in itself and anyone who aids her in any way to leave the the state can be charged with aiding and abetting.

I know they don’t care about gambling, but it seems to me it is pretty much the same. Can you leave a state to do something that is illegal in your state but legal in another and does the state have the right to restrict your travel across state borders? IANAL but I suspect not.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:21:34am

re: #282 calochortus

Which will make for an interesting court case. Does a state own its citizens? Can I go gamble in Nevada if gambling is illegal in my state?

while we all know the answer to this, the problem is thinking that it matters to them

they’re making these decisions backwards
they choose the result they want
and then fish around for ‘justification’

it doesnt have to be consistent or unhypocritical or…anything

as has been said, calvinball law

so if they want to make it so, they’ll make it so

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:22:09am

re: #289 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

they don’t care about gambling, they want to ban abortions. and by TX law, leaving the state to obtain one is illegal in itself and anyone who aids her in any way to leave the the state can be charged with aiding and abetting.

To be clear, they can be sued by anyone for up to $10k in damages; it isn’t a criminal offense, yet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:22:45am

re: #283 austin_blue

And the Texas AG, Ken Fucking Paxton, just let all AG Office employees leave at noon today to celebrate the ruling and says each June 24th will forever be a State Holiday for the AG’s employees.

I thought it was a parody site. It isn’t.

happy birthday to me…

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calochortus  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:23:17am

re: #295 Dangerman

while we all know the answer to this, the problem is thinking that it matters to them

they’re making these decisions backwards
they choose the result they want
and then fish around for ‘justification’

it doesnt have to be consistent or unhypocritical or…anything

as has been said, calvinball law

so if they want to make it so, they’ll make it so

I think that will be quite a stretch. Not all judges are ultra-conservative and/or corrupt.

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sagehen  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:24:24am

re: #288 No Malarkey!

Money and corporations also have more rights than women. Women have no rights that a white man is bound to respect. This is the tragic result of the failure to ratify the ERA.

Corpses, too.

They can’t take organs from the dead, even if somebody really really needs it. If the corpse didn’t pre-authorize organ donation before dying, their parts are off-limits.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:24:42am

re: #298 calochortus

I think that will be quite a stretch. Not all judges are ultra-conservative and/or corrupt.

But enough are that the Christian Facists can game the system.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:24:45am

re: #296 No Malarkey!

To be clear, they can be sued by anyone for up to $10k in damages; it isn’t a criminal offense, yet.

whatever it takes to make abortions (legally) unobtainable anywhere

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:25:40am

re: #298 calochortus

I think that will be quite a stretch. Not all judges are ultra-conservative and/or corrupt.

i was referring mostly of the current 6 on the scotus

down the chain, no

but when it inevitable gets to the top, because someone will push it, we’re right back here again

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:25:58am

re: #283 austin_blue

And the Texas AG, Ken Fucking Paxton, just let all AG Office employees leave at noon today to celebrate the ruling and says each June 24th will forever be a State Holiday for the AG’s employees.

I thought it was a parody site. It isn’t.

texasattorneygeneral.gov

“Further,” added Attorney General Paxton, “we cannot forget the extraordinary violence that Roe and Casey unleashed on our nation. Because of those decisions, almost 70 million babies have been killed in the womb. And so, today at noon, I am closing all my offices as a memorial to these babies. Our hearts and prayers go out to all of them. Never again should something like this happen in America.”  

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calochortus  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:27:30am

re: #300 Teddy’s Person

re: #302 Dangerman

I guess we’ll find out.
Anyway, I’m going to take out my frustration on a large shrub that needs to be hacked way back.
Catch you all later.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:27:44am

re: #294 calochortus

I know they don’t care about gambling, but it seems to me it is pretty much the same. Can you leave a state to do something that is illegal in your state but legal in another and does the state have the right to restrict your travel across state borders? IANAL but I suspect not.

I expect that the criminal offense of “trafficking” women across state lines for the purpose of performing an abortion on her will eventually be upheld by this court. In the meantime, states like Texas will allow people to sue those who aid or abet women in obtaining legal out-of-state abortions for damages.

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Teukka  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:32:55am

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:34:26am

re: #182 lawhawk

Trump/McConnell has criminalized women’s right to access to health care and reproductive care in particular. This court packed with right wing extremists is going to roll back decades of progress, and Thomas and Alito are going to drive the nation into a dystopian future where white guys get to rape women and force women to carry to term, and get away with it.

This isn’t pro life. It’s a forced birth extremism, and the next step will be for suits against states that protect the right to abortion by claiming that life is sacred regardless and overrule state’s rights.

This decision is predictably as extreme as it gets and ignores jurisprudence and stare decisis. Same as yesterday’s decision on firearms and concealed carry.

And this court has made clear that to them “settled law” does not exist.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:35:07am

re: #305 No Malarkey!

I expect that the criminal offense of “trafficking” women across state lines for the purpose of performing an abortion on her will eventually be upheld by this court. In the meantime, states like Texas will allow people to sue those who aid or abet women in obtaining legal out-of-state abortions for damages.

The other approach will be to allow persons or bodies to “sue” the mother (and her accomplices) in the name of the unborn child for “damages”.

Citizenship begins at birth!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:35:31am

The Unsettlers of Catan!

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:35:46am

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:38:03am
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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:38:05am

re: #307 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

And this court has made clear that to them “settled law” does not exist.

stare decisis
settled law
precedent
instead now we have historical basis nonsense made up out of whole cloth

balls and strikes my liver-spotted ass
(actually it really isnt liver spotted)

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BlueSpotinAL  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:38:38am

re: #245 Eclectic Cyborg

Hope you’re happy, Jill Stein Ralph Nader voters!

That would be responsible for Roberts and Alito.

All this shit goes way back - who appointed the crank Thomas?
Who decided crap like Citizens United? (Kennedy, Roberts, Scalia, Alito; Thomas)

To be fair, under Roberts guidance, the Supreme Court has deteriorated to the make shit up phase.
Shelby County vs Holder - racism doesn’t exist anymore!
Gun Nuts vs Bruen - the second amendment is about using guns for self defense

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:39:09am

re: #310 Crush White Nationalism

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joe honey,

not just this decision

any precedent is fair game now according to this in(s)ane logic

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:40:04am

re: #311 lawhawk

We all have coworkers who are celebrating this attack. People I no longer want anything to do with at all.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:43:03am

re: #310 Crush White Nationalism

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Hey, Manchin, no Republicans are going to support this. Those Republicans are gone.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:45:07am

re: #316 Belafon

Hey, Manchin, no Republicans are going to support this. Those Republicans are gone.

He never meant that, he was just trying to rationalize why people should still consider him a Democrat.

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:45:12am

re: #194 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

True, LGBTQs are an easy target and they are clearly lined up in the Fundamentalists’ sights as we speak. But the ultimate goal is American Talibanism.

All rulings in regards to Civil Rights are in the crosshairs, most notably any regarding Gay Marriage/Rights, Brown vs. Bd of Edu, and citizenship cases like US vs. Wong Kim. This SCOTUS will also redefine what a “Natural Born Citizen” is by writ just as they wrote “well-regulated militia” out of the Constitution.

If you are anything other than a lily-white male landowner,- watch out. Those Blacks, Cubans, Latinos, Asians, even Catholics and other individuals who have had a great time playing the social calculus political game and backing Republicans or Conservative causes for whatever reason- it’s not going to work out for you. You will be next.

This is the worst Constitutional Crisis in our nation’s history.

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austin_blue  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:46:15am

Nationalist Christians

Nat Cees

Nice ring to it.

Sam Alito, Beer Kanvanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett are the Opus Dei trio.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:46:48am

I found a PNW org (Northwest Abortion Access Fund) and filled out a volunteer application.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:47:03am

re: #318 Florida Panhandler

This is the worst Constitutional Crisis in our nation’s history.

Historians will note September 10, 2001 as the day that America peaked as a nation.

June 24, 2022 will be noted as the day it began its decline.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:49:15am

re: #312 Dangerman

stare decisis
settled law
precedent
instead now we have historical basis nonsense made up out of whole cloth

balls and strikes my liver-spotted ass
(actually it really isnt liver spotted)

We weren’t going to check.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:49:48am

re: #321 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Historians will note September 10, 2001 as the day that America peaked as a nation.

June 24, 2022 will be noted as the day it began its decline.

I would say we peaked on Dec 11, 2000.

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BeachDem  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:50:06am

re: #313 BlueSpotinAL

That would be responsible for Roberts and Alito.

All this shit goes way back - who appointed the crank Thomas?
Who decided crap like Citizens United? (Kennedy, Roberts, Scalia, Alito; Thomas)

To be fair, under Roberts guidance, the Supreme Court has deteriorated to the make shit up phase.
Shelby County vs Holder - racism doesn’t exist anymore!
Gun Nuts vs Bruen - the second amendment is about using guns for self defense

I was just thinking about 2004, and arguing with people about how important the Supreme Court would be following that election. (I also remember crying my eyes out on election night, seeing the beginning of the end.)

And who did we get during Shrub’s second term? Roberts and Alito, who sucked on their own and paved the way for the current crop of freaks.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:53:36am

Post shingles neuralgia sucks.

That’s the post.

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sagehen  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:54:32am

re: #313 BlueSpotinAL

That would be responsible for Roberts and Alito.

All this shit goes way back - who appointed the crank Thomas?
Who decided crap like Citizens United? (Kennedy, Roberts, Scalia, Alito; Thomas)

Thomas was appointed by someone who actually won both the popular vote and electoral college (GHWB).

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EstebanTornado1963  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:54:35am

re: #323 Teddy’s Person

I would say we peaked on Dec 11, 2000.

Refresh my memory on that date please 😁

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:55:18am

re: #325 lawhawk

Post shingles neuralgia sucks.

That’s the post.

I have not come down with it this summer (so far) but had it bad two of the past three years

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:55:41am

re: #327 EstebanTornado1963

Refresh my memory on that date please 😁

Supreme Court decision on 2000 election?

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Teddy's Person  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:57:50am

re: #327 EstebanTornado1963

Refresh my memory on that date please 😁

The day before Bush v Gore.

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:57:53am

The only real way to fix this is to put Abortion #1 on the upcoming elections and ride it into the ground. Democrats have had a difficult time making important policy issues stick in the minds of voters in this Fox News-defined noise environment the past 25 years but this one will stick hard.

Any Democratic win in 2024 with a Democratic Congress should Day 1 pack the Court. day Fucking 1. Pack the Court and immediately reverse all abhorrent decisions made by this freak show of a SCOTUS.

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Citizen K  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:57:59am

Essentially, civil rights are dead. Thomas laid out the game, this is the poison pill to dismantle every single civil rights gain in the past century. And they’re going to do it in record time because nothing fucking matters and the Supreme Court is untouchable. And for anyone suggesting “packing the courts”, I very much ask “how” with the current set-up of Congress.

And for those hoping this pushes turnouts for Dems, I sincerely hope so. My twitter timeline is full of folks braying the opposite, using this as excuse to never vote for Dems again because once again, they alone are responsible for this and the GOP never has any agency. Dems did this through ‘lack of will’ and the only solution is to never vote Dem again or some goddamn shit, I don’t even fucking know anymore.

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EstebanTornado1963  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:58:10am

re: #329 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Supreme Court decision on 2000 election?

Morning coffee hasn’t kicked in yet, but that’s right, Wikipedia says Dec 12th it was decided.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 8:58:45am

It doesn’t say so explicitly, but I wonder if Garland’s statement means that servicewomen can still get reproductive care in red states from federal employees working in federal facilities?

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:00:05am

re: #331 Florida Panhandler

The only real way to fix this is to put Abortion #1 on the upcoming elections and ride it into the ground. Democrats have had a difficult time making important policy issues stick in the minds of voters in this Fox News-defined noise environment the past 25 years but this one will stick hard.

Any Democratic win in 2024 with a Democratic Congress should Day 1 pack the Court. day Fucking 1. Pack the Court and immediately reverse all abhorrent decisions made by this freak show of a SCOTUS.

Republicans will have a difficult time trying to distract voters from the actual closure of all abortion clinics in half the states with drag queens.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:00:20am

re: #334 No Malarkey!

It doesn’t say so explicitly, but I wonder if Garland’s statement means that servicewomen can still get reproductive care in red states from federal employees working in federal facilities?

yeah, but then they will bust her the second she steps off the base…

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:00:59am

This fuckhead knows who is at fault (the thread will give you a stroke, don’t read it)

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:01:08am
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Teddy's Person  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:01:59am

re: #338 Dopamine Fish

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Roberts does not get a fucking pass.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:02:12am

re: #332 Citizen K

Essentially, civil rights are dead. Thomas laid out the game, this is the poison pill to dismantle every single civil rights gain in the past century. And they’re going to do it in record time because nothing fucking matters and the Supreme Court is untouchable. And for anyone suggesting “packing the courts”, I very much ask “how” with the current set-up of Congress.

And for those hoping this pushes turnouts for Dems, I sincerely hope so. My twitter timeline is full of folks braying the opposite, using this as excuse to never vote for Dems again because once again, they alone are responsible for this and the GOP never has any agency. Dems did this through ‘lack of will’ and the only solution is to never vote Dem again or some goddamn shit, I don’t even fucking know anymore.

Twitter isn’t America. The Democrats can and should drown out those voices with a massive media campaign for the mid-terms.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:03:14am

re: #332 Citizen K

Dems did this through ‘lack of will’ and the only solution is to never vote Dem again or some goddamn shit, I don’t even fucking know anymore.

“Weren’t you the same people who said that the Supreme Court didn’t matter when deciding if you should vote for Hillary?”

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:04:26am

re: #339 Teddy’s Person

Roberts does not get a fucking pass.

Roberts isn’t getting a pass, but he doesn’t control this court anymore; Alito does.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:04:55am

re: #337 The Pie Overlord!

This fuckhead knows who is at fault (the thread will give you a stroke, don’t read it)

I do wish she had followed most of the Republicans in retiring when she could have been replaced by a Democratic president.

But this decision is all on Republicans.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:05:10am
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Dopamine Fish  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:05:13am

re: #339 Teddy’s Person

Roberts does not get a fucking pass.

I don’t think anybody’s saying he does, but let’s face it: Ultra-conservative douchebro Samuel Alito is the one calling all the shots. Roberts has completely lost control. I mean, he voted with the majority; he’s just as despicable as they are. But he doesn’t deserve the honor of having the court named after him. We should be trashing the Alito Court for the disastrous wrecker of American jurisprudence that it is, and Sam Alito should be denounced as the nakedly partisan hack that he is. He should go down in infamy right alongside Benedict Fucking Arnold, as far as I’m concerned.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:05:37am

re: #331 Florida Panhandler

The only real way to fix this is to put Abortion #1 on the upcoming elections and ride it into the ground. Democrats have had a difficult time making important policy issues stick in the minds of voters in this Fox News-defined noise environment the past 25 years but this one will stick hard.

Any Democratic win in 2024 with a Democratic Congress should Day 1 pack the Court. day Fucking 1. Pack the Court and immediately reverse all abhorrent decisions made by this freak show of a SCOTUS.

And this won’t be a fix and simply a patch since this Supreme Court and the GOP have wrecked all ideas of precedent, settled law, and having a stable legal and legislative structure. From now on, unless there is a very large a very widely accepted agreement by all political groups that the past couple of years are aberrant and will not be repeated the future for the country is simply going to be tit-for-tat and reversals as the current major parties exchange control and court majorities.

Leaving us with a zombie country that will just totter along on inertia until a crisis causes an outright collapse.

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(((Archangel1)))  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:06:33am

Still slightly surprised that “Ahole” isn’t recognized…

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:07:03am

re: #343 Belafon

I do wish she had followed most of the Republicans in retiring when she could have been replaced by a Democratic president.

But this decision is all on Republicans.

No guarantee with McConnel and Company that even that would have worked out.

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Captain Ron  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:07:16am
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Captain Ron  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:08:08am

They didn’t wear that on January 6th.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:09:34am

re: #321 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Historians will note September 10, 2001 as the day that America peaked as a nation.

June 24, 2022 will be noted as the day it began its decline.

I would argue that November 8, 2016 was the beginning of the decline.

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JC1  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:10:55am

re: #331 Florida Panhandler

The only real way to fix this is to put Abortion #1 on the upcoming elections and ride it into the ground. Democrats have had a difficult time making important policy issues stick in the minds of voters in this Fox News-defined noise environment the past 25 years but this one will stick hard.

Any Democratic win in 2024 with a Democratic Congress should Day 1 pack the Court. day Fucking 1. Pack the Court and immediately reverse all abhorrent decisions made by this freak show of a SCOTUS.

Could do it in January of next year if the Dems pick up a few Senate seats in November and keep the house.

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Citizen K  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:11:05am

re: #340 No Malarkey!

Twitter isn’t America. The Democrats can and should drown out those voices with a massive media campaign for the mid-terms.

My problem is that yes, Twitter isn’t real life. But at this point, neither is the media coverage of things like politics, but both increasingly effect the real world results and consequences to near impenetrability. Look at Biden’s and Dems’ general approval ratings and how tanked they are solely on the basis of “Biden is a super-failure because we said so!” How major twitter accounts are gaining influence with the GOP and real world radicals in a feedback loop of stochastic terrorism.

Yes, Twitter isn’t the real world. But it, like Facebook, can’t have its real world influence understated or it’s to our detriment at this point.

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JC1  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:12:18am

re: #332 Citizen K

Essentially, civil rights are dead. Thomas laid out the game, this is the poison pill to dismantle every single civil rights gain in the past century. And they’re going to do it in record time because nothing fucking matters and the Supreme Court is untouchable. And for anyone suggesting “packing the courts”, I very much ask “how” with the current set-up of Congress.

And for those hoping this pushes turnouts for Dems, I sincerely hope so. My twitter timeline is full of folks braying the opposite, using this as excuse to never vote for Dems again because once again, they alone are responsible for this and the GOP never has any agency. Dems did this through ‘lack of will’ and the only solution is to never vote Dem again or some goddamn shit, I don’t even fucking know anymore.

You Twitter timeline must be filled with bots pushing the ‘stay home’ narrative. People aren’t used to losing rights. This will drive turnout.

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JC1  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:13:41am

re: #336 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

yeah, but then they will bust her the second she steps off the base…

Good luck locking up soldiers on BS state charges. That will work out well

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:14:47am

re: #326 sagehen

Something happened along the way for a demented soul like Clarence Thomas to actually follow through on his promise to commit himself to the cause of outright racist, entitled Republican assholes. He is a true believer, or at least he thinks he is. More likely he is fueled by an inner rage caught in between the opposing sides of being a black man in America and desire to “truly be American”.

In his wrath, protected by a lifetime cloaked in Justice robes and seclusion from outside opposing views, he has steadily through the years enabled and legally armed forces that would otherwise either wish to deport (“back to Africa”), imprison, or kill him and others who are not lily-white male entitled assholes.

Thomas’ malevolence cannot be understated. Evil does exist. It has existed in the entire Republican Party and it’s voters for a long time now.

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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:15:47am
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JC1  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:18:07am

re: #351 Eclectic Cyborg

I would argue that November 8, 2016 was the beginning of the decline.

Bush getting elected in 2000. Turned a massive surplus into a deficit; invaded Iraq needlessly; put Alito and Roberts on the court. So gross, because Gore clearly won FL according to the people’s will, but people were too stupid to correctly mark the butterfly ballots.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:18:47am

Alito was very bitter when women were admitted to Princeton. He’s long been a douchebro.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:19:47am

Remember that the Southern Baptist Convention praised Roe v. Wade when it was first decided. Conservative icon Barry Goldwater was a champion of abortion rights, so much so that one of Planned Parenthood’s major awards was named for him.

What changed? The true Republican base, the local gentry, discovered that they couldn’t make money from abortion after all and, much worse, it empowered the poor by giving poor women a right and an option that the rich had always had. Beyond that, the burgeoning Dominionist theocrat movement needed a wedge issue to replace opposition to civil rights, which they finally recognized was a long term loser.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:21:03am

I just got up…..

What a clusterfuck we live in. JFC!

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:22:09am

It’s a good thing it’s Friday. I have a pressing need to get hammered, and we’ve been limiting it to only Fridays and Saturdays in an attempt to prevent excessive liver damage.

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sagehen  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:22:24am

sorta.

what changed was the right wing discovered that trying to maintain segregation just wasn’t a winning issue anymore. They needed something new to keep their foot soldiers a cohesive group….

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Citizen K  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:22:34am

re: #354 JC1

You Twitter timeline must be filled with bots pushing the ‘stay home’ narrative. People aren’t used to losing rights. This will drive turnout.

Not bots, but replies and retweets from several activist accounts who have severely shown their ass as of late, it feels like.

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CleverToad  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:24:21am

re: #337 The Pie Overlord!

This fuckhead knows who is at fault (the thread will give you a stroke, don’t read it)

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Not about to read it, presume it’s a smug asshole pontificating from his privileged vantage point. Blood pressure is already high enough this morning.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:24:50am

I remember I was confused the first time I heard a Protestant evangelical ranting against abortion, circa 1976. “Huh, what? Have you gone Catholic on us?”
Now we know the truth, evangelical leaders had made a calculated decision to throw in with the otherwise hated Catholics on abortion.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:25:14am

But her emails.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:26:10am

re: #361 Dave In Austin

I just got up…..

What a clusterfuck we live in. JFC!

Our country has been turned back 50 years.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:27:09am

re: #351 Eclectic Cyborg

I would argue that November 8, 2016 was the beginning of the decline.

America had some minor ups and downs, but it was holding on after 9/11/2001, nothing that was not reparable with the next election. But this most recent assault on Civil Rights will take decades/generations to overcome

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:27:55am

re: #355 JC1

Good luck locking up soldiers on BS state charges. That will work out well

won’t keep them from trying; it’s all about posturing and simply making things difficult.

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JC1  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:28:27am

re: #360 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Remember that the Southern Baptist Convention praised Roe v. Wade when it was first decided. Conservative icon Barry Goldwater was a champion of abortion rights, so much so that one of Planned Parenthood’s major awards was named for him.

What changed? The true Republican base, the local gentry, discovered that they couldn’t make money from abortion after all and, much worse, it empowered the poor by giving poor women a right and an option that the rich had always had. Beyond that, the burgeoning Dominionist theocrat movement needed a wedge issue to replace opposition to civil rights, which they finally recognized was a long term loser.

Goldwater is spinning in his grave. He was no friend of the theocratic right.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:29:07am

re: #363 sagehen

sorta.

what changed was the right wing discovered that trying to maintain segregation just wasn’t a winning issue anymore. They needed something new to keep their foot soldiers a cohesive group….

Basically what I said, “opposition to civil rights” is the framework for continued segregation. Beyond that, the potential for making money, or the lack of it, underlies ALL RW-gentry isssues, including both segregation and abortion.

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Captain Ron  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:34:58am
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Citizen K  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:35:29am

A demonstration of how we got here, and how we’ll keep going there, because of who owns the megaphones.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:35:30am

Lovely waking up to the news that my disabled veteran daughter is now a second-class citizen.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:35:49am

Twice over.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:36:59am

re: #367 Dr. Matt

But her emails.

and she was ‘shrill’

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(((Archangel1)))  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:37:05am

Alito, Kavanaugh, Barrett, Gorsuch, Thomas, & Roberts don’t deserve respect. Nor dignity. Nor kindness. Nor any sense of security.
They deserve to be well and unharmed but to spend the rest of their days in the very same state of existence they’ve just brought upon countless women across the nation.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:37:15am

re: #373 Captain Ron

What’s the name of that book where aliens clear out the human race by making adult males violent? Sounds like they just chose a political party instead.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:37:22am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:38:39am

re: #231 lawhawk

I am not a fan of expanding the court at this time. If the GOP takes over the Senate in November, the extra positions will not be filled until there is a GOP president. McConnell demonstrated this in 2016 — and then when a GOP President is elected (like in 2024), we will be faced not with 6-3 but with 10-3 decisions. The 50-50 Senate allows Biden a precarious “majority” to get a little done — but not to get anything bold like this, especially in the brief time till the next election. If something good happens in November, we can then rethink this. What would be even better is for Thomas and Alito somehow to be forced from the bench between now and the fall.

It is infuriating that SCOTUS is getting additional protection while they take away our rights one at at time. IANAL but IMHO based on the decisions this week, the Roberts Court is now firmly ensconced as the second worst court ever (Taney’s Dred Scott decision is enough to make the Taney Court the worst in our history).

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:39:28am

re: #373 Captain Ron

Yep, they’re going for all the rightwing marbles, civil rights, climate change, gun control, and probably election law.
A lot of people, including many here, predicted exactly this outcome. They were called paranoid alarmists. I don’t think we’ll hear that any more.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:39:42am

re: #377 Dangerman

oh, and campaigned with the flu

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:40:19am

re: #381 Hecuba’s daughter

I am not a fan of expanding the court at this time. If the GOP takes over the Senate in November, the extra positions will not be filled until there is a GOP president. McConnell demonstrated this in 2016 — and then when a GOP President is elected (like in 2024), we will be faced not with 6-3 but with 10-3 decisions. The 50-50 Senate allows Biden a precarious “majority” to get a little done — but not to get anything bold like this, especially in the brief time till the next election. If something good happens in November, we can then rethink this. What would be even better is for Thomas and Alito somehow to be forced from the bench between now and the fall.

It is infuriating that SCOTUS is getting additional protection while they take away our rights one at at time. IANAL but IMHO based on the decisions this week, the Roberts Court is now firmly ensconced as the second worst court ever (Taney’s Dred Scott decision is enough to make the Taney Court the worst in our history).

We won’t be able to do the expansion until Manchin and Sinema are made irrelevant, so it will only happen if Democrats are in charge of Congress.

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JC1  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:41:00am

re: #381 Hecuba’s daughter

I am not a fan of expanding the court at this time. If the GOP takes over the Senate in November, the extra positions will not be filled until there is a GOP president. McConnell demonstrated this in 2016 — and then when a GOP President is elected (like in 2024), we will be faced not with 6-3 but with 10-3 decisions. The 50-50 Senate allows Biden a precarious “majority” to get a little done — but not to get anything bold like this, especially in the brief time till the next election. If something good happens in November, we can then rethink this. What would be even better is for Thomas and Alito somehow to be forced from the bench between now and the fall.

It is infuriating that SCOTUS is getting additional protection while they take away our rights one at at time. IANAL but IMHO based on the decisions this week, the Roberts Court is now firmly ensconced as the second worst court ever (Taney’s Dred Scott decision is enough to make the Taney Court the worst in our history).

The positions could be filled before the November election.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:42:07am
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Dr. Matt  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:42:54am

GQP deserves to be a permanent minority.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:45:02am

re: #387 Dr. Matt

GQP deserves to be a permanent minority.

And they will be. The problem is, right now, they have rigged the levers of power so that even as a permanent minority, they have outsized influence in the government. Because they feel insecure in a postmodern world and want to ensure that they can always rewind the time machine to whatever point makes them feel comfortable.

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wrenchwench  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:45:03am

re: #386 jaunte

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They’ll go for the uterus, but not for the uvalde

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mmmirele  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:45:56am
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Citizen K  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:46:36am

re: #385 JC1

The positions could be filled before the November election.

With how long the usual Supreme Court nom approval process goes, we’d get maybe one, and that’s if the GOP allowed it. Even if we got all 50 Dems on board to vote to expand the court, it’d be a precarious thing that we literally couldn’t lose one senator on, because there’s no doubt in my mind that the 50 Republicans would hold fast against any nom going forward to ensure that only they got the control of who the noms would be.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:47:18am
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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:49:34am
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Teddy's Person  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:50:43am

re: #389 wrenchwench

They’ll go for the uterus, but not for the uvalde

You, my dear sweet lizard, have won the internets for the day.

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mmmirele  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:52:08am

Putting this behind the button because this guy is a true and complete asshat.

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ETA, the full tweet shows his gloating face, which so deservedly needs to be smacked.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:52:11am

Just in case anyone was thinking that maybe Liz Cheney is not a garbage person because of her participation on the January 6 committee, she is still a horrible garbage person.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:52:42am
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cat-tikvah  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:52:51am

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:53:15am

re: #396 The Pie Overlord!

Just in case anyone was thinking that maybe Liz Cheney is not a garbage person because of her participation on the January 6 committee, she is still a horrible garbage person.

Good luck on getting Democrats to vote for you, Liz.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:53:30am
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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:54:29am
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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:54:48am

re: #384 Belafon

We won’t be able to do the expansion until Manchin and Sinema are made irrelevant, so it will only happen if Democrats are in charge of Congress.

Dems need to hold all 50 seats they have right now, plus add three* more to fully neutralize Manchin and Sinema and abolish the filibuster.

It seems to me that the best opportunities to do this are PA (Fetterman), OH (Ryan), and even Wisconsin, where the Dems on the primary ballot are polling favorably against Johnson.

“These are the stakes,” as LBJ began in the famous “Daisy Girl” ad. He was talking about nuclear war, of course, but the quote ends with him saying, “…or we must die.”

We all know that Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell will fall next. This SCOTUS will probably support a less ham-handed coup attempt than what was attempted in 2020. If we don’t change the direction of the court, we (America) will die.

*Three to prepare for the possibility that Manchin might switch parties.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:55:09am

So, when do the nationwide protests start?

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:55:18am

re: #396 The Pie Overlord!

Just in case anyone was thinking that maybe Liz Cheney is not a garbage person because of her participation on the January 6 committee, she is still a horrible garbage person.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:56:39am

THIS

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:57:01am

I’m glad she’s doing what she is doing on the J6 Committee, but Liz is proving to Democrats that there’s no reason to keep her around after the committee ends.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:57:35am

Olivia worked for Pence.

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JC1  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:57:54am

re: #391 Citizen K

With how long the usual Supreme Court nom approval process goes, we’d get maybe one, and that’s if the GOP allowed it. Even if we got all 50 Dems on board to vote to expand the court, it’d be a precarious thing that we literally couldn’t lose one senator on, because there’s no doubt in my mind that the 50 Republicans would hold fast against any nom going forward to ensure that only they got the control of who the noms would be.

Only took about a month to seat RGB’s replacement.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:58:07am

Inspired by H.L . Mencken and Mark Twain, I once said that Republican politicians would cheerfully come out in favor of incest, cannibalism or human sacrifice if they thought it would keep them in power or make money for their contributors.
We can check off human sacrifice, with their overtly democidal response to Covid, and incest, with their anti-abortion absolutism.

When, and how, will they start legitimizing cannibalism? A response to climate change perhaps, in lieu of pollution control? “IT’S PEOPLE! IT’S PEOPLE”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:58:40am

re: #387 Dr. Matt

GQP deserves to be a permanent minority.

They are in terms of absolute numbers, but our electoral system is tweaked to give them disproportional representation.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:58:49am

re: #408 JC1

Only took about a month to seat RGB’s replacement.

And over a year to seat Scalias.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 9:59:06am
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darthstar  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:01:36am

I’m too pissed off to internet today.

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JC1  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:02:30am

re: #411 Eclectic Cyborg

And over a year to seat Scalias.

But the dems nominally control the Senate now. Of course it’s moot because Manchin won’t nuke the filibuster to expand the court. But if it were to happen, seating 4 SCOTUS justices wouldn’t be a problem before January 3rd, when the next Congress is sworn in.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:02:40am

re: #404 Crush White Nationalism

Of course she is, she is a Republican. The only thing she agrees with us on is that democratic elections should not be reversed by fascist coups, which makes her better than the vast majority of Republicans in Congress, as well as her opponent in the GOP primary.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:04:19am

re: #403 Eclectic Cyborg

So, when do the nationwide protests start?

They have.
Watch Live: Protests Erupt at Supreme Court After Abortion Case Ruling

News updates: Seattle reacts to Supreme Court’s Roe v. Wade ruling and what it means for abortion locally

In Washington, state law ensures abortion rights. That law will remain in effect, regardless of Friday’s ruling. Still, political winds can change, and lawmakers or voters could conceivably pass a new state law restricting abortion.

Meanwhile, the Guttmacher Institute, a research organization focusing on reproductive rights, estimates Washington could see a 385% increase in abortion patients coming from states banning or severely restricting abortion in the wake of Roe.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:04:20am

Hey, folks. Remember to take care of your mental health. Today is a BAD DAY. We knew this was coming; that doesn’t make it any easier to swallow. (In fact, the Thomas concurrence probably makes it worse.) Take some space, get your head on something else to distract. Me, I’m going to dive deep into some video games, and then turn my brain off as best I know how. But don’t be afraid to disengage if you feel yourself getting too heated. It’s more valuable to store up energy for the long, ongoing fight to reclaim our democracy from these religious fascists.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:06:11am

re: #416 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

385%. So basically four fold.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:07:54am

I expect this to be a record breaking day for fund raising by Democrats. I’ve gotten three fundraising tweets today since the decision was handed down.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:08:23am

re: #288 No Malarkey!

Money and corporations also have more rights than women. Women have no rights that a white man is bound to respect. This is the tragic result of the failure to ratify the ERA.

Under this court, the ERA would have provided NO protection. After all the 15th amendment did not provide any protection against voter restrictions that prevented blacks from voting in the South for decades or that protect their rights to vote today against an onslaught of new legislation targeting them.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:08:34am
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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:08:42am

Women on Web:
Advance provision of abortion pills:
womenonweb.org

Get involved:
womenonweb.org

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JC1  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:08:53am

re: #418 Eclectic Cyborg

385%. So basically four fold.

Not to nit pick the math, but it’s almost 5x.
100 increased by 385% is 485.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:09:27am

re: #421 DodgerFan1988

They want it to happen so they have an excuse to beat up “antifa”.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:09:31am

Women on Web stickers

Help women get access to information how they can safely do an abortion themselves. Scroll down, click on the sticker in your language, print and paste it everywhere: public bathrooms, cafes, restaurants, busses, trains, waiting rooms, and dressing rooms.
womenonweb.org.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:09:50am

*Snort*
Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade: Photos of protesters, crowds outside high court
Er, no. They have about a dozen tightly focused pics of forced birth astroturfers celebrating, and none of the opposition.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:10:17am

re: #425 jaunte

That this is even fucking necessary in 2022…

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:10:41am

re: #424 Eclectic Cyborg

They want it to happen so they have an excuse to beat up “antifa”.

And just like the BLM demonstrations of 2020, there will be shit-stirrers out there who cause violence and incite riots, with the intention of blaming it on antifa and pro-choice advocates. You know it will happen. They’ve been planning this for decades; BLM was a practice run. This is their Superb Owl.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:11:04am

re: #427 Eclectic Cyborg

We’ve joined the backward theocracies of the world.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:11:16am

Is there a WH Press briefing today?

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BigPapa  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:11:28am

All the abortions at rallies today can have guns according to SCOTUS.

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ericblair  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:11:56am

re: #420 Hecuba’s daughter

Under this court, the ERA would have provided NO protection. After all the 15th amendment did not provide any protection against voter restrictions that prevented blacks from voting in the South for decades or that protect their rights to vote today against an onslaught of new legislation targeting them.

All it would mean is that men would have no right to an abortion either.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:12:22am

I hope they mange to dump DeJoy out of the Post Office before he starts searching packages for contraband medication.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:14:07am

re: #421 DodgerFan1988

They want an excuse to attack people in the upcoming peaceful protests.

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BigPapa  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:15:40am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:16:22am

re: #424 Eclectic Cyborg

They want it to happen so they have an excuse to beat up “antifa”.

…and to gloat about how “those Right to Lifers are out to kill!”

To the point that they will make sure that something happens that they can blow up all over the RW blogopshere

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:18:01am

re: #433 jaunte

I hope they mange to dump DeJoy out of the Post Office before he starts searching packages for contraband medication.

I think if they could do that, illicit drugs wouldn’t be delivered via USPS as they are today. The post office is already a major drug trafficker. Last I saw, which was over a year ago, every single Internet-based drug dealer ships USPS.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:19:41am

re: #435 BigPapa

None of them lied. It was precedent. It was important.

And they overturned it anyway. They ignored precedent, settled law, and a woman’s right and agency over their bodies to institute a ban on abortion.

They aren’t pro life. They’re forced birth extremists, and they revel in their extremism.

Thomas and Roberts likewise are fine with this decision, and Thomas thinks they don’t go far enough.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:20:08am

re: #180 Dopamine Fish

Well, looks like the dog finally caught the car. What next? Oh, wait, looks like Thomas has already laid it out: The next target is LGBTQ rights.

What’s next? I think that the first Sivita who dies from this ruling, her guy with their already born six kids - and a bunch of legal, carry concealed guns - is going to go SCOTUS hunting.

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JC1  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:23:53am

re: #438 lawhawk

None of them lied. It was precedent. It was important.

And they overturned it anyway. They ignored precedent, settled law, and a woman’s right and agency over their bodies to institute a ban on abortion.

They aren’t pro life. They’re forced birth extremists, and they revel in their extremism.

Thomas and Roberts likewise are fine with this decision, and Thomas thinks they don’t go far enough.

Some of them lied about other things. Kavanaugh saying under oath that the devil’s triangle was a drinking game was perjury.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:24:46am

This is war. We have to fight, but fight smart. In particular, don’t give the forced birth gun humpers anything to shoot at!

EXCEPT:

In actual military combat, there are many instances of deception and luck combining to induce enemy troops to fire on each other. It isn’t common or easy, of course, but it should be a hell of a lot easier and more likely when dealing with poorly trained and undisciplined vigilantes. It will probably happen spontaneously, without outside intervention, but some very subtle pressure when the opportunity presents itself might not hurt.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:29:53am
This decision is inconsistent with what Justices Gorsuch and Kavanaugh said in their testimony and their meetings with me, where they both were insistent on the importance of supporting long-standing precedents that the country has relied upon.”

— Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME), quoted by the New York Times, adding that “throwing out a precedent overnight that the country has relied upon for half a century is not conservative. It is a sudden and radical jolt to the country that will lead to political chaos, anger, and a further loss of confidence in our government.”

So is she surprised, concerned or just performing?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:48:40am

re: #348 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

No guarantee with McConnel and Company that even that would have worked out.

She would have retired while Reid was till Majority Leader. But I suspect if it were RBG rather than Scalia who passed away in 2016, even McConnell may very well have allowed a replacement.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 10:57:08am

re: #411 Eclectic Cyborg

And over a year to seat Scalias.

Which goes to prove that, despite all the whining, it would have made no difference at all if RGB had retired.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:01:02am

re: #416 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

They have.
Watch Live: Protests Erupt at Supreme Court After Abortion Case Ruling

News updates: Seattle reacts to Supreme Court’s Roe v. Wade ruling and what it means for abortion locally

watching right now and…gee…I see no fences being torn down, no windows being smashed, no police being stabbed at with flagpoles.

What kind of legitimate political discourse protest is this???

//////////

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:19:06am

re: #27 austin_blue

Sly:

[Embedded content]

Video

Youtube Video

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 24, 2022 • 11:56:26am

re: #424 Eclectic Cyborg

They want it to happen so they have an excuse to beat up “antifa”.

Yeah, proud boys attacking women should be great optics for their cause.

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John Hughes  Jun 24, 2022 • 12:02:37pm

re: #358 JC1

Bush getting elected in 2000.

… Made kidnapping, torture and internment without trial official US policy.


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