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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:13:21am

America, 2022.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:17:01am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:17:24am

And of course TFG has another Nazi rally today because why wouldn’t he?

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Charles Johnson  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:18:40am
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John Hughes  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:19:52am

re: #303 Hecuba’s daughter

It requires 60 votes — so a large majority, not just a real majority.

No, it doesn’t.

It needs 51 votes to remove the “filibuster” from the rules.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:20:05am
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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:21:16am
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JC1  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:22:16am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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I hate that guy, but that’s not what he’s saying here. He’s saying that IF stare decisis is paramount, then Brown vs BoE would never have been decided.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:22:55am

Campaign slogan to be shouted from rooftops from now until November:

IF YOU DO NOT VOTE DEMOCRATIC, THE GOP WILL TAKE AWAY ABORTION RIGHTS FOR THE REST OF THE WOMEN IN AMERICA

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:22:58am
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Charles Johnson  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:24:58am

Now seeing liberals on Twitter bashing the hell out of AOC, and I am NOT down with this at all.

She proposed a real course of action that makes good sense, and they’re attacking her for “suppressing the vote.” What the fuck.

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wrenchwench  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:25:13am

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Charles Johnson  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:25:42am

re: #8 JC1

I hate that guy, but that’s not what he’s saying here. He’s saying that IF stare decisis is paramount, then Brown vs BoE would never have been decided.

Sorry, he doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt from me. We’re way past that point.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:27:19am

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Targeting key areas AGGRESSIVELY is not suppressing the fucking vote.

(I know you know this)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:29:04am

re: #12 wrenchwench

My brother and SiL just left their church because they found it too “woke” for their views.

And my oldest sister and her whole family joined the Mormons some years back;

“The [LDS] Church allows for possible exceptions for its members when:

-Pregnancy results from rape or incest, or
-A competent physician determines that the life or health of the mother is in serious jeopardy, or
-A competent physician determines that the fetus has severe defects that will not allow the baby to survive beyond birth.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:29:26am

re: #14 Eclectic Cyborg

Targeting key areas AGGRESSIVELY is not suppressing the fucking vote.

(I know you know this)

Projection is a powerful tool

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:30:18am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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Why is it so hard for them to understand the difference between taking away rights and extending rights?

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JC1  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:30:43am

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Now seeing liberals on Twitter bashing the hell out of AOC, and I am NOT down with this at all.

She proposed a real course of action that makes good sense, and they’re attacking her for “suppressing the vote.” What the fuck.

What did AoC suggest?

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wrenchwench  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:31:46am

re: #15 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This should be part of the definition of pregnancy:

-[A competent physician determines that] the life or health of the mother is in serious jeopardy,

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:32:43am

re: #18 JC1

What did AoC suggest?

She was saying Democrats need to be specific about where to focus GOTV energy/funding, what seats they need to/can win, how many seats they need to get and why/what they plan to do once they get them. All common sense stuff.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:32:58am

This is absolutely horrendous. Will Gorsuch take the lead?

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danarchy  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:33:43am

re: #17 Barefoot Grin

Why is it so hard for them to understand the difference between taking away rights and extending rights?

Why can’t you just understand that they are extending rights to a non-sapient, non-sentient clump of cells!

//

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:35:40am

re: #10 Crush White Nationalism

The problem is Manchin and Sinema. They’ve got their head firmly embedded up their asses and frankly, someone needs to give ‘em the pimphand and lay down the law.

To quote a famous knight from long ago (and far away), “You’re either with us or against us.” And yes….sometimes that’s how it’s got to be.

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sagehen  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:35:44am

re: #18 JC1

What did AoC suggest?

thread:

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:35:50am

re: #22 danarchy

Why can’t you just understand that they are extending rights to a non-sapient, non-sentient clump of cells!

//

Oh, right. Not sarcasm—I literally saw that in one twitter thread: “the mother had her chance at life, so I’d choose the unborn child” (like it’s going to birth itself).

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Mike Lamb  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:36:21am

re: #8 JC1

I hate that guy, but that’s not what he’s saying here. He’s saying that IF stare decisis is paramount, then Brown vs BoE would never have been decided.

Why did he delete it?

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:37:30am

Hey, Charles, I’m trying to post another installment of the train songs. As far as I can tell, it’s identical to the others I posted, and the preview looks good, but I can’t post it, and I can’t save it as a draft. Whichever one I try, the page acquires little green checkmarks, but it’s neither saved nor posted.

Any ideas?

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Mike Lamb  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:38:09am

re: #8 JC1

I hate that guy, but that’s not what he’s saying here. He’s saying that IF stare decisis is paramount, then Brown vs BoE would never have been decided.

Also, even if his point is bad precedent should be overturned, it is totally inappropriate. When has SCOTUS ever reversed an individual right it recognized in a prior ruling?

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:38:10am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:39:03am

This is a pretty interesting video on the thalidomide scandal - and I genuinely had no idea that some ex-Nazi doctors were involved in the whole sorry mess.

Youtube Video

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Charles Johnson  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:39:49am
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Florida Panhandler  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:44:11am

re: #21 Barefoot Grin

This is absolutely horrendous. Will Gorsuch take the lead?

I can imagine states like Texas to require vehicle emissions ABOVE a certain threshold, say 1985 levels for just spite’s sake. The more smoky smog, the better. And those pesky clean water regs must simply go away.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:49:42am

re: #27 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Hey, Charles, I’m trying to post another installment of the train songs. As far as I can tell, it’s identical to the others I posted, and the preview looks good, but I can’t post it, and I can’t save it as a draft. Whichever one I try, the page acquires little green checkmarks, but it’s neither saved nor posted.

Any ideas?

It looks like there are so many videos on that page, and they’re taking so long to load, that the database connection is expiring before it can finish.

Try removing a couple of the videos and see if that helps.

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wrenchwench  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:50:18am

re: #31 Charles Johnson

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He tweeted it to Obama. Intentional offensiveness.

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darthstar  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:51:53am

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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:51:54am
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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:54:39am

re: #31 Charles Johnson

That does NOT even remotely apply to John Cornyn.

Or any DC Republican. (Save for Cheney and Kinzinger, who are doing the right thing on the January 6th Committee, but are otherwise part of the problem).

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darthstar  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:55:15am

re: #31 Charles Johnson

Some MAGAt called Cornyn a RINO after that tweet. Still pissed about the gun bill I guess.

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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:56:38am
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Charles Johnson  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:57:35am

The same people who constantly say we should never criticize Democrats are bashing the hell out of AOC.

Apparently some Democrats are just fine to criticize. Just not the establishment ones.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:59:57am
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nines09  Jun 25, 2022 • 12:04:54pm

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 25, 2022 • 12:05:33pm

re: #12 wrenchwench

Since the leak, I’ve read several posts from ex-evangelicals about how this brings back all the trauma of their abusive childhood. They got away, and now the madness they fled controls the court.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jun 25, 2022 • 12:07:48pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

It looks like there are so many videos on that page, and they’re taking so long to load, that the database connection is expiring before it can finish.

Try removing a couple of the videos and see if that helps.

Okay, that worked, thanks. (But I got to the number of videos in a single post by trial and error when I started doing this. Why has the maximum number of videos i can do dropped by four overnight?)

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wrenchwench  Jun 25, 2022 • 12:10:59pm

re: #43 Crush White Nationalism

Since the leak, I’ve read several posts from ex-evangelicals about how this brings back all the trauma of their abusive childhood. They got away, and now the madness they fled controls the court.

It must be a tough transition that keeps going and going… Ex-Catholic is easy. There’s a lot of company. One big institution, not a bunch of competitive little ones.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 25, 2022 • 12:10:59pm

re: #44 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Okay, that worked, thanks. (But I got to the number of videos in a single post by trial and error when I started doing this. Why has the maximum number of videos i can do dropped by four overnight?)

Well, there’s a lot going on when you post videos - there are calls to the YouTube API and other external services, and sometimes they take longer to execute because of network conditions. There’s really no way to predict.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 25, 2022 • 12:11:30pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 25, 2022 • 12:13:24pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 25, 2022 • 12:14:26pm

“Access to abortion can now be determined by the states. Here’s why that helps women.”

WaPo editorial next week, probably

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Dangerman  Jun 25, 2022 • 12:23:36pm

re: #332 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, she’s only worth about $250 mil. Not small potatoes of course, but well less than a billion.

We are all billionaires

Its just a question of decimal point placement

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wrenchwench  Jun 25, 2022 • 12:25:51pm

It’s not a monster, it’s a lizard.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 25, 2022 • 12:27:34pm
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retired cynic  Jun 25, 2022 • 12:28:28pm

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William Lewis  Jun 25, 2022 • 12:38:59pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

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wrenchwench  Jun 25, 2022 • 12:41:34pm

re: #53 retired cynic

First time there’s an arrest for an abortion here’s the appropriate response: Each woman, when she gets her period, turns herself in to the nearest police station for investigation.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 25, 2022 • 12:44:00pm
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nines09  Jun 25, 2022 • 12:44:44pm

re: #54 William Lewis

Chis Hayes lives in his own little world.
“I had him on my show. He jokingly said he wanted to put an end to people like me. We laughed, shared a few stories and I really don’t think he….” (gunshot rings out)
Up next, Chuck Todd licks the ass crack of Newt Gingrich LIVE!…

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Charles Johnson  Jun 25, 2022 • 12:45:33pm
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wrenchwench  Jun 25, 2022 • 12:46:55pm

re: #55 wrenchwench

First time there’s an arrest for an abortion here’s the appropriate response: Each woman, when she gets her period, turns herself in to the nearest police station for investigation.

I think I should be investigated for not having a period. I’m obviously on something to prevent pregnancy. I’ll turn myself in.

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darthstar  Jun 25, 2022 • 12:49:39pm

re: #42 nines09

Pool day!

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darthstar  Jun 25, 2022 • 12:53:20pm

re: #60 darthstar

Pool day!

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One more from the other day with a couple of locals. It’s been a good week. Just emailed our Super Diamond tickets for tonight to a friend as we’re staying for one more night to go see the guitar guy who played our wedding…haven’t seen him since before the pandemic.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 25, 2022 • 12:57:53pm
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nines09  Jun 25, 2022 • 12:59:33pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

I doubt Jim is going back to Alaska.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 25, 2022 • 1:03:52pm

The cryptocurrency grift just collapsed, and I can already find 30x series Nvidia cards at retail prices. Shame that this happened so late that the 40x series is coming out soon. I’m going to wait for that.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 25, 2022 • 1:03:57pm

re: #60 darthstar

Where you at?

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 25, 2022 • 1:06:51pm
Google will allow employees to move between states in response to the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade. In an email obtained by The Verge, the company’s chief people officer, Fiona Cicconi, said workers could “apply for relocation without justification,” and that those managing the requests would be “aware of the situation.” We’ve reached out to Google to find out if the company amended its relocation policy in response to Friday’s decision. Cicconi also reminded workers Google’s employee benefits plan covers medical procedures that aren’t available in the state where they live and work.

Google tells workers they can relocate ‘without justification’ following Supreme Court decision (Engadget)

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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Jun 25, 2022 • 1:11:40pm
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darthstar  Jun 25, 2022 • 1:12:21pm

re: #65 Dave In Austin

Where you at?

Up in Alpine Meadows - about 300 feet below the base of the resort. We used to rent a ski house here every winter. Felt like a staycation was in order with the Omicron outbreak and with air travel being such a shit show anyway. Dogs are having a blast. Nap time for them…and me after I finish this post.

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darthstar  Jun 25, 2022 • 1:15:16pm
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Dave In Austin  Jun 25, 2022 • 1:17:51pm

re: #68 darthstar

I kinda figured. I used to prospect gold in AZ using a metal detector ( not your usual coin shooter). I know a guy that found a huge nug just south of that area.
Prospecting is the one thing I miss about Arizona.

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nines09  Jun 25, 2022 • 1:21:22pm

bbl

I will forever regret not seeing this guy live. Doubt he’s going out again. No need to.

Youtube Video

Tom has been there.


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Citizen K  Jun 25, 2022 • 1:26:16pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jun 25, 2022 • 1:33:37pm

re: #65 Dave In Austin

Where you at?

Youtube Video

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retired cynic  Jun 25, 2022 • 1:38:12pm

why I have difficulty getting work done

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 25, 2022 • 1:41:42pm

re: #74 retired cynic

Ahh. A furry wrist rest. That can be difficult.

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retired cynic  Jun 25, 2022 • 1:43:29pm

re: #75 PhillyPretzel

He does not appear to have any bones, so just rolls or flops just to get in my way.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 25, 2022 • 1:47:31pm

The deep anxiety that women cause men goes way back, and it’s not just the American religious right who go overboard in working out their fears into political mayhem.

Japanese monks had problems too:


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Behind spoiler tags because it does present some uncomfortable material.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 25, 2022 • 1:52:16pm

re: #77 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I decided to put spoiler tags around the video because even though the video uses animation some of the pics may disturb some.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 25, 2022 • 1:55:37pm
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Florida Panhandler  Jun 25, 2022 • 2:02:43pm

re: #79 Teddy’s Person

There is a really nothing stopping this corrupted and villainous SCOTUS from completely ruling against every single New Deal program still in effect, including Social Security.

ssa.gov

They could do it in 1 single swift motion.

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retired cynic  Jun 25, 2022 • 2:08:00pm

Our old friend GoddamnedFrank is tweeting away:

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retired cynic  Jun 25, 2022 • 2:09:55pm

and another:

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William Lewis  Jun 25, 2022 • 2:22:24pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 25, 2022 • 2:25:44pm

re: #79 Teddy’s Person

That may sound clever but I do not think it really is.

Problem: what is “reproductive rights”?

It’s purely an interpretive exercise and one that any Senator can get around or manipulate.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 25, 2022 • 2:28:25pm

The bottom line is that the Senate is anti-democratic and there is no way to escape that simple observation.

But try to get any politician, any Democratic Senator, to stand up and say the Senate has to go away or be fundamentally changed.

These things are now too wired into our identity as a nation.

This is why these same old issues seem to never go away.

This is a hard problem and I don’t know how to fix it.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 25, 2022 • 2:29:34pm

The last time the Senate was changed in nature was 110 years ago.

Nothing’s really changed since then.

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John Hughes  Jun 25, 2022 • 2:31:41pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

Apparently some Democrats are just fine to criticize. Just not the establishment [ white ] ones.

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Dangerman  Jun 25, 2022 • 2:44:47pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 25, 2022 • 2:45:25pm

re: #82 retired cynic

One poorly explored facet of overturning Roe and the recriminalizing of abortion care is all the opportunities for blackmail this will create and how that will undermine corporate, national and institutional security.

That is an excellent point I hadn’t thought of.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Jun 25, 2022 • 2:46:13pm

re: #85 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The bottom line is that the Senate is anti-democratic and there is no way to escape that simple observation.

But try to get any politician, any Democratic Senator, to stand up and say the Senate has to go away or be fundamentally changed.

These things are now too wired into our identity as a nation.

This is why these same old issues seem to never go away.

This is a hard problem and I don’t know how to fix it.

Every problem we are facing requires a constitutional amendment. I’ve been saying to not rely on stare decisis or both sides acting in good faith for years. Do the work to get it done, and keep trying until it works.

Passing a law that will just get overturned almost immediately is a waste of effort and performative for the mass of idiots in America that don’t know how anything works.

Democracy is constant work.

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Dangerman  Jun 25, 2022 • 2:46:39pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 25, 2022 • 2:47:36pm

re: #90 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

I don’t see Democrats ever getting enough state legislatures to amend the constitution.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 25, 2022 • 2:48:33pm

re: #92 Eclectic Cyborg

Stranger things have happened.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Jun 25, 2022 • 2:48:57pm

re: #91 Dangerman

Nice try but no the number of D-Senators actually is important. Biden can’t threaten the Supreme Court like FDR did. FDR had the actual numbers to back up the threats.

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Dangerman  Jun 25, 2022 • 2:49:02pm

re: #91 Dangerman

Forget for a moment fdr had a supermajority

this court could easily revisit that ruling wrt social security

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Jun 25, 2022 • 2:50:07pm

re: #92 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t see Democrats ever getting enough state legislatures to amend the constitution.

This changes nothing I said. “Keep trying until you get it done.”

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Dangerman  Jun 25, 2022 • 2:51:13pm

re: #94 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

Nice try but no the number of D-Senators actually is important. Biden can’t threaten the Supreme Court like FDR did. FDR had the actual numbers to back up the threats.

#95 is where I was going
With these last two rulings, nothing is safe
that’s the motivation
For everyone

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 25, 2022 • 2:53:37pm

re: #90 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

Every problem we are facing requires a constitutional amendment. I’ve been saying to not rely on stare decisis or both sides acting in good faith for years. Do the work to get it done, and keep trying until it works.

Passing a law that will just get overturned almost immediately is a waste of effort and performative for the mass of idiots in America that don’t know how anything works.

Democracy is constant work.

This SCOTUS has broken democracy on a more basic level than simply writing new amendments and laws. They have taken it upon themselves to be the final arbiters of translating every single notion of every sentence into a twisted wreckage known as Conservative ideology, including rubbing “well-regulated milita” completely out with an eraser. Scalia’s judicial diatribe can be summed up like this- “there is no precedent we cannot undo. There are no other interpretations of Founder intent other than what we say there are.” They are making a new government ruled by edict without a Constitution at all.

The Constitution is done. Just like that. All they needed was a corrupted SCOTUS and a Republican Senate. And just like that American democracy has been hacked and hijacked.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Jun 25, 2022 • 2:57:40pm

Realistic options right now.

Full court press for years or decades for a slate of Constitutional Amendments which cover all the issues that are making life hell here.

OR

Start impeaching Supreme Court judges for perjury (practically every right winger other than Roberts), seditious conspiracy (Thomas), and overt partisanship (All of the right wingers except maybe Roberts again… and yes this is actually a valid reason for impeachment of members of the judiciary), and expand the court to 13 to match the district numbers.

Get the idiot apolitical people to realize democracy is work, and convince all the idiot lefty purity ponies that helped put us here in the first place (Hillary is a corporatist warmonger) to grow up and start voting strategically.

Admit Puerto Rico as a state. DC is a non-starter and there’s reasons it’s not a state.

OR

Civil war.

None of these are easy, will either take years or will get *a lot* of people killed. These are your choices.

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William Lewis  Jun 25, 2022 • 2:59:52pm

Just because our nation is going to hell in ye old handbasket doesn’t mean nothing else is happening in the world.

We really have to help them win this year in case we no longer can help them later.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:03:25pm

re: #98 Florida Panhandler

Not to be that guy but for every time someone rants about “well-regulated militia” first thing that comes to mind is, the next line says “the people” and not “the militia” from the line above. It don’t take right wing pretzel logic to take “the people” to mean everyone.

This is and always has been a super weak sauce argument. Attack it on it’s applicability to 21st century reality, rather than an asinine semantics argument. The second you make “the people” not mean “the people” it opens a can of worms that you don’t want open.

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:04:48pm

Monday will be a huge day as much of corporate America finally and publicly breaks ranks with the Republican Party and the Republicans go full goober populist with mainly traditionally Republican corps remaining in the fold (oil, guns, defense, etc). Could be a shaky day on Wall Street.

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John Hughes  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:05:01pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

Cazadore! Burn it with fire!

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Decatur Deb  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:06:03pm

re: #91 Dangerman

I will repeat this as long as I have to, when the Supreme Court said in 1937 that the Social Security Act was “unconstitutional”, FDR didn’t ask people to vote harder in the next election, he told the Court he’d add more justices until they backed off, which they did.

FDR wasn’t dealing with Mancin and Cinema.

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Dangerman  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:08:50pm
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Dangerman  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:11:44pm

re: #97 Dangerman

re: #98 Florida Panhandler

. . Scalia’s judicial diatribe can be summed up like this- “there is no precedent we cannot undo. There are no other interpretations of Founder intent other than what we say there are.” They are making a new government ruled by edict without a Constitution at all.

.

This

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:12:19pm

re: #104 Decatur Deb

FDR wasn’t dealing with Mancin and Cinema.

Manchin and Sinema could be loyal 100% voting with Biden Democrats and it wouldn’t matter. They aren’t the whole problem, just a small part. An insult to injury.

There are still 50 Republicans, 48 Democrats, and 2 independents who caucus with the Democrats. The only thing we can get passed is the budget and spending bills, and judge confirmations.

You are not going to get massive change. Completely killing the filibuster is playing with fire too.

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sagehen  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:13:23pm

re: #89 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

That is an excellent point I hadn’t thought of.

applies to homosexuality as well, if Lawrence also gets overturned.

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sagehen  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:17:36pm

thread:

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John Hughes  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:18:55pm

re: #107 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

You are not going to get massive change. Completely killing the filibuster is playing with fire too.

The fire is here. It has been here for years.

“What if we get rid of the filibuster and the repugnants vote for something bad” is a stupid argument. If the repugnants had enough votes to do something bad they have enough votes to overturn the”filibuster”.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:19:16pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:20:58pm

re: #111 Rightwingconspirator

Unfortunately I think you are correct.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:21:09pm

re: #86 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The last time the Senate was changed in nature was 110 years ago.

Nothing’s really changed since then.

Any real change to the Senate requires a Constitutional amendment — and that’s not going to happen. There apparently, though, is an attempt to repeal the 17th Amendment to take away the right of the citizens of the state to elect their Senators, and revert to the appointment by the state legislature — a proposal that would make the Senate even less representative of the nation as a whole.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:25:36pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:26:35pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

Joe I could not have said better myself.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:26:50pm
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BeachDem  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:27:56pm

re: #109 sagehen

thread:

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William Lewis  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:28:05pm

re: #111 Rightwingconspirator

Unlike the 2nd amendments strange wording, the 19th is very clear:

“The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.”

We do still have to worry about poll taxes returning and similar shenanigans but simply based on gender they can’t do it until/unless they get their constitutional convention in which case it’s all-out war in America like the former Yugoslavia anyway because that will trigger it.

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William Lewis  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:30:03pm

re: #117 BeachDem

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Dangerman  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:31:05pm

re: #118 William Lewis

Unlike the 2nd amendments strange wording, the 19th is very clear:

“The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.”

We do still have to worry about poll taxes returning and similar shenanigans but simply based on gender they can’t do it until/unless they get their constitutional convention in which case it’s all-out war in America like the former Yugoslavia anyway because that will trigger it.

Watch:
It says sex not gender //

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Decatur Deb  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:31:08pm

re: #118 William Lewis

“The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.:

“I didn’t sell out on account of sex, I did it for the money.”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:31:39pm

re: #113 Hecuba’s daughter

Did you know that the Duggars have currently 23 grandchildren with 2 more due this summer?

Here’s why progressives (and their adjacents) seem to not be making political headway: the religious right are baby machines.

Now, not all the Duggar children will have 19 kids (like their parents.)

If every Duggar child averaged a mere 5 offspring each (who live and grow to reproductive age), by the year 2600 the entire planet will be descended from Jim Bob and Michelle.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:32:57pm

re: #122 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

With very little outside input.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:36:46pm

Off to watch Kanopy—the movie is What We Do In the Shadows, a vampire story by the same guys that did Flight of the Chonchords.

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Thanos  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:38:10pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

It looks like there are so many videos on that page, and they’re taking so long to load, that the database connection is expiring before it can finish.

Try removing a couple of the videos and see if that helps.

You could also turn it into a Youtube songlist, and then just post the lead song.

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Teukka  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:38:56pm

re: #105 Dangerman

Checked out the numbers for maternal mortality. The US is 19 per 100k.

Guess the numbers for Finland and Sweden?

3 per 100k for Finland, 4 per 100k for Sweden.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:39:01pm

re: #122 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Did you know that the Duggars have currently 23 grandchildren with 2 more due this summer?

Here’s why progressives (and their adjacents) seem to not be making political headway: the religious right are baby machines.

Now, not all the Duggar children will have 19 kids (like their parents.)

If every Duggar child averaged a mere 5 offspring each (who live and grow to reproductive age), by the year 2600 the entire planet will be descended from Jim Bob and Michelle.

Jesus “fucking” Christ

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Thanos  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:39:14pm

re: #125 Thanos

You could also turn it into a Youtube songlist, and then just post the lead song.

Like this:

Youtube Video

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:42:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:43:55pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:48:18pm
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William Lewis  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:49:49pm

Ok, just what the world needs. Muppets video overlaid with a somewhat “different” audio…

Youtube Video

Aw. Bummer. Worth the laugh to follow it there.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:50:22pm

re: #118 William Lewis

Unlike the 2nd amendments strange wording, the 19th is very clear:

“The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.”

We do still have to worry about poll taxes returning and similar shenanigans but simply based on gender they can’t do it until/unless they get their constitutional convention in which case it’s all-out war in America like the former Yugoslavia anyway because that will trigger it.

The 15th amendment adopted in 1870 was equally clear, with no ambiguity:

Section 1
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

Section 2
The Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Yet Southern States routinely denied blacks the right to vote until the 1960’s. It required an Constitutional amendment outlawing the poll tax and the 1965 VRA to finally implement this amendment. Then the Roberts Court allowed the Florida poll tax to take effect.

So let’s not pretend that direct, unambiguous wording in the Constitution cannot be undermined by policies and rules implemented by malevolent actors and malicious decisions from depraved justices on SCOTUS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:51:11pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:53:48pm

wrenchwench had the original video downstairs #314

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:55:32pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2022 • 3:58:43pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2022 • 4:00:42pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 25, 2022 • 4:02:09pm

re: #137 Backwoods_Sleuth

Because I am a pessimist, I will believe the youth are really motivated when I see the 2022 election result demographics.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2022 • 4:02:14pm
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darthstar  Jun 25, 2022 • 4:04:39pm

Kind of fun:
huggingface.co

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 25, 2022 • 4:11:49pm

re: #139 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Because I am a pessimist, I will believe the youth are really motivated when I see the 2022 election result demographics.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Jun 25, 2022 • 4:17:10pm

re: #139 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Because I am a pessimist, I will believe the youth are really motivated when I see the 2022 election result demographics.

The “Youth Vote” is 1 or 2 election cycles, then they are adults. Whether or not they act like or not is another story. I’ve never felt it was worth worrying about or trying to rely on it. They never have and never will save us, until 4-8 years later.

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mmmirele  Jun 25, 2022 • 4:20:03pm

Olivia Rodrigo, a young singer-songwriter, called out five members of the Supreme Court by name at her Glastonbury set today, where she was joined by Lily Allen, and they sung Allen’s song “Fuck You.” From the BBC, with a “very strong language” warning:

Youtube Video

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darthstar  Jun 25, 2022 • 4:21:40pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 25, 2022 • 4:31:22pm

re: #142 Barefoot Grin

The rise of dudebro-ism ( I’m trying to think of a better word) among young males has me thinking that the next generation is not going to do to well.

If one looks at the outpouring of the most idiotic, juvenile posts on the mass of online social media, one can see this movement.

Gamergate was the first really big explosion of this that got wider attention.

Since then we have seen this spread.

The toxic fandom problem is largely this dudebroism.

Masculinity is a genetic programming trait that cannot be easily managed by social pressures. It can be managed, but not easily.

In some ways this is the heart of the Islamist violence, whether AQ or ISIS.

Young men being exploited because of their need to prove something.

This is why Elon Musk is seen as a hero - he’s the uber male for the 21st century: a billionaire who can say stupid things and be praised for them.

Some time back, when I was first getting on my soapbox (here) about worldview collapse, I brought up this need to have a new humanism movement.

We need that because we have to counter the (genetic programming) urge towards violence and domination expressed by males, especially young males as they are exiting puberty.

In the old days the church/king simply hired these guys to go die somewhere. Whoever survived could come back and be humbled a bit (unless it was a noble who decided he ought to be king but that is another problem.)

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 25, 2022 • 4:35:35pm

re: #146 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The rise of dudebro-ism ( I’m trying to think of a better word) among young males has me thinking that the next generation is not going to do to well.

If one looks at the outpouring of the most idiotic, juvenile posts on the mass of online social media, one can see this movement.

Gamergate was the first really big explosion of this that got wider attention.

Since then we have seen this spread.

The toxic fandom problem is largely this dudebroism.

Masculinity is a genetic programming trait that cannot be easily managed by social pressures. It can be managed, but not easily.

In some ways this is the heart of the Islamist violence, whether AQ or ISIS.

Young men being exploited because of their need to prove something.

This is why Elon Musk is seen as a hero - he’s the uber male for the 21st century: a billionaire who can say stupid things and be praised for them.

Some time back, when I was first getting on my soapbox (here) about worldview collapse, I brought up this need to have a new humanism movement.

We need that because we have to counter the (genetic programming) urge towards violence and domination expressed by males, especially young males as they are exiting puberty.

In the old days the church/king simply hired these guys to go die somewhere. Whoever survived could come back and be humbled a bit (unless it was a noble who decided he ought to be king but that is another problem.)

These are great points, but my constituency was 14 women and one man.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 25, 2022 • 4:42:08pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jun 25, 2022 • 4:44:19pm
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darthstar  Jun 25, 2022 • 4:48:56pm

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jun 25, 2022 • 4:50:34pm

Many many of the Twitter trolls appear to be juvenile or young adult men.

Definitely a problem. If I had teenage sons I’d be on them so hard, monitoring everything.

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stpaulbear  Jun 25, 2022 • 4:50:38pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

Spiro Agnew’s Ghost
@SpiroAgnewGhost

49 years ago today, June 25, 1973

With 85 million households watching on TV, former WH counsel John Dean reads his explosive 60,000 word opening statement which implicates Nixon, himself & other top WH officials in a huge coverup of Watergate & more.

That happened on the day I turned 19. I must have been watching the hearing a bit, but I don’t have memories of it other than being glad that Nixon was getting nailed. I had already cast my first presidential vote for McGovern and the full D ticket.

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darthstar  Jun 25, 2022 • 4:52:00pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jun 25, 2022 • 4:55:55pm

If women in some states are to be jailed for aborting a child, shouldn’t the man who impregnated her be jailed too for the sin crime?

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darthstar  Jun 25, 2022 • 4:55:56pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 25, 2022 • 4:58:34pm

re: #154 Barefoot Grin

If a woman in some states are to be jailed for aborting a child, shouldn’t the man who impregnated her be jailed too for the sin crime?

The state laws are clear — only those who helped her get the abortion are criminals.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Jun 25, 2022 • 5:00:43pm

How this is all going to turn out I can’t say. Pretty sure that it’s not going to be fixed or made worse in the short term.

The number of church-going religious people in the US has been falling off a cliff for 2 decades. This might accelerate that.

We still don’t know how the Jan 6 Commission and any possible criminal cases that follow will pan out. I’m much more optimistic about some form of justice coming form that than most people here are. It seems every day that’s on TV the number of people who want something done jumps by several points, and the DoJs actions are starting to be less in the background and more on TV.

Regardless, Trump wont run in 2024. That’s not what we need to worry about. He’s living off running skimming a PAC, and wants to/has to continue to do so because he’s a broke joke and his wealth has always been pixie dust and bullshit between grifts. He will find some health reason, real or exaggerated to decline to run.

It’s literally everything else we need to worry about and strategize for now.

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stpaulbear  Jun 25, 2022 • 5:01:34pm

re: #154 Barefoot Grin

If women in some states are to be jailed for aborting a child, shouldn’t the man who impregnated her be jailed too for the sin crime?

The man created the precious holy baby. The woman was a whore.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 25, 2022 • 5:08:48pm

NYT Pitchbot pitch:

The Right Came for a Fight; Why were the Pro-Choice Protesters Suppressing Their Violent Tendencies?

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Rightwingconspirator  Jun 25, 2022 • 5:08:59pm

re: #144 mmmirele

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mmmirele  Jun 25, 2022 • 5:17:30pm

This. Basically, a one and done boycott isn’t going to do it. It’s going to take a lot of escalating actions and it’s not going to be done in weeks or months. It’s going to be hard.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 25, 2022 • 5:38:56pm

re: #76 retired cynic

It’s well known that cats are a liquid.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 25, 2022 • 5:53:31pm
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darthstar  Jun 25, 2022 • 5:53:56pm
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darthstar  Jun 25, 2022 • 5:54:36pm

NY Times repainting him as woke is fucking bullshit.

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2022 • 5:57:03pm

re: #137 Backwoods_Sleuth

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As I keep saying, this is going to make everyone political.

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William Lewis  Jun 25, 2022 • 6:02:09pm

re: #166 Belafon

As I keep saying, this is going to make everyone political.

It may just be my cynicism, but I’ll believe it only when the votes are tallied.

And, frankly, where I live, I don’t want a big youth turnout. We have enough fundamentalist rednecks voting here already.

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2022 • 6:05:22pm

re: #135 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jun 25, 2022 • 6:06:12pm

re: #165 darthstar

NY Times repainting him as woke is fucking bullshit.

As his whole rally blah blah is how HE made it happen.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Jun 25, 2022 • 6:10:52pm

re: #168 Belafon

Hmmm… this is a development. They are apparently capable of shame again.

Had this happened in 2017-2020, that clown would have worn this like a badge of honor and put it in his campaign ads.

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Cheechako  Jun 25, 2022 • 6:12:02pm

Some good advice…

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Jun 25, 2022 • 6:12:08pm

re: #165 darthstar

NY Times repainting him as woke is fucking bullshit.

Then again he also “privately” said a lot truths about COVID when he thought it wasn’t going to get out.

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Jay C  Jun 25, 2022 • 6:14:19pm

re: #165 darthstar

NY Times repainting him as woke is fucking bullshit.

Bullshit by the metric fuckton: as if Donald Fucking Trump gives the least flying crap about any policy or action except in the aspect of his being able to take credit for it: justified or not (usually NOT, but in this case I hope he’s correct).

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2022 • 6:22:59pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

Which Miller is that?

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2022 • 6:24:13pm

re: #167 William Lewis

It may just be my cynicism, but I’ll believe it only when the votes are tallied.

And, frankly, where I live, I don’t want a big youth turnout. We have enough fundamentalist rednecks voting here already.

I wish it had stayed longer, but remember when Taylor Swift got political and what happened in Iowa?

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2022 • 6:25:28pm

re: #171 Cheechako

Some good advice…

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Luckily, MY wife and female friends don’t have to worry. I was pretty torn up about it, and we haven’t been able to have kids for 17 years.

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2022 • 6:26:26pm

re: #173 Jay C

Bullshit by the metric fuckton: as if Donald Fucking Trump gives the least flying crap about any policy or action except in the aspect of his being able to take credit for it: justified or not (usually NOT, but in this case I hope he’s correct).

If I were going to give Trump credit for anything, it would be that he understands hate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2022 • 6:27:30pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2022 • 6:29:17pm

re: #174 Belafon

Which Miller is that?

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Charles Johnson  Jun 25, 2022 • 6:32:09pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2022 • 6:34:56pm
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Belafon  Jun 25, 2022 • 6:35:57pm

I would not be surprised of this is true, and I think anti-abortion people let the rich get away with it:

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2022 • 6:36:24pm

re: #161 mmmirele

This. Basically, a one and done boycott isn’t going to do it. It’s going to take a lot of escalating actions and it’s not going to be done in weeks or months. It’s going to be hard.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2022 • 6:37:37pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2022 • 6:39:21pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 25, 2022 • 6:45:16pm
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stpaulbear  Jun 25, 2022 • 6:46:53pm

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

I watched to see if there was a millisecond of “oh fuck” in trups eyes when she said that, but he’s too used to being in it and around it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2022 • 6:47:09pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2022 • 6:47:48pm

re: #187 stpaulbear

I watched to see if there was a millisecond of “oh fuck” in trups eyes when she said that, but he’s too used to being in it and around it.

he just heard “thank you” and nothing else

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stpaulbear  Jun 25, 2022 • 6:51:18pm

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

Where’s the hail? There was supposed to be earth shattering hail?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2022 • 6:57:44pm
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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Jun 25, 2022 • 7:00:55pm
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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Jun 25, 2022 • 7:02:48pm

re: #186 Charles Johnson

Walsh is a goon.

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stpaulbear  Jun 25, 2022 • 7:06:36pm

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

he just heard “thank you” and nothing else

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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Jun 25, 2022 • 7:06:55pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

Those LAPD cops are goons too!

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2022 • 7:32:07pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 25, 2022 • 7:41:14pm

re: #9 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Campaign slogan to be shouted from rooftops from now until November:

IF YOU DO NOT VOTE DEMOCRATIC, THE GOP WILL TAKE AWAY ABORTION RIGHTS FOR THE REST OF THE WOMEN IN AMERICA

But who is this message aimed at? Didn’t we all know that if Donald won in 2016, he could stack the courts with rightwing crazies who would legislate against abortion, gay rights, public education, unions, the environment, immigrants, etc.? We did and yet there were people who couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Secretary Clinton (for stupid reasons).
I hope that now that Roe has been overturned, that will spur our side into coming out in force this November. I’ll be optimistic and say that that will happen. It has to.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 25, 2022 • 7:46:30pm

re: #157 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

How this is all going to turn out I can’t say. Pretty sure that it’s not going to be fixed or made worse in the short term.

The number of church-going religious people in the US has been falling off a cliff for 2 decades. This might accelerate that.

We still don’t know how the Jan 6 Commission and any possible criminal cases that follow will pan out. I’m much more optimistic about some form of justice coming form that than most people here are. It seems every day that’s on TV the number of people who want something done jumps by several points, and the DoJs actions are starting to be less in the background and more on TV.

Regardless, Trump wont run in 2024. That’s not what we need to worry about. He’s living off running skimming a PAC, and wants to/has to continue to do so because he’s a broke joke and his wealth has always been pixie dust and bullshit between grifts. He will find some health reason, real or exaggerated to decline to run.

It’s literally everything else we need to worry about and strategize for now.

But Trump will never say that he is not declaring. The threat to the GOP that he will enter the race is part of the attraction for the rabid base and also what keeps a lot of the GOP politicians kissing his ass and licking his boots.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 25, 2022 • 8:01:31pm

re: #122 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Did you know that the Duggars have currently 23 grandchildren with 2 more due this summer?

Here’s why progressives (and their adjacents) seem to not be making political headway: the religious right are baby machines.

Now, not all the Duggar children will have 19 kids (like their parents.)

If every Duggar child averaged a mere 5 offspring each (who live and grow to reproductive age), by the year 2600 the entire planet will be descended from Jim Bob and Michelle.

The Pie clan will have more.

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William Lewis  Jun 25, 2022 • 8:10:39pm

That’s even better than my idea of having a madras apply for the funds… ;)

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mmmirele  Jun 25, 2022 • 8:15:45pm

Courtney Milan, a romance novelist and former Supreme Court clerk under her legal name, Heidi Bond, wrote a very long, very detailed thread which pretty much proves the last post in the thread.

reedited because original formatting was craptastic.

Oh yeah, Heidi Bond is the ex-clerk who revealed that 9th Circuit Court of Appeals judge Alex Kozinski was a sexual predator. She could do that because she’d left law behind.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 25, 2022 • 8:27:15pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

I think she intended to say “right to life” but blurted out what she was really thinking.

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Teukka  Jun 25, 2022 • 8:36:59pm

re: #202 The Pie Overlord!

I think she intended to say “right to life” but blurted out what she was really thinking.

She wore a Freudian Slip…

“Farscape” reference

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2022 • 8:37:04pm

re: #197 Patricia Kayden

But who is this message aimed at? Didn’t we all know that if Donald won in 2016, he could stack the courts with rightwing crazies who would legislate against abortion, gay rights, public education, unions, the environment, immigrants, etc.? We did and yet there were people who couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Secretary Clinton (for stupid reasons).
I hope that now that Roe has been overturned, that will spur our side into coming out in force this November. I’ll be optimistic and say that that will happen. It has to.

No, they all didn’t.

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stpaulbear  Jun 25, 2022 • 8:37:38pm

re: #202 The Pie Overlord!

I think she intended to say “right to life” but blurted out what she was really thinking.

Not sure. My reaction is that she wants warehouses full of white babies available for sale/adoption to continue a white race majority - bein’ that she’s into Hitler and all that.

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Amory Blaine  Jun 25, 2022 • 8:46:15pm

re: #197 Patricia Kayden

I believe the focus has to be on the next victims. There’s no nebulous ” oh they would never do that” now. It has to be drilled into their heads that they are liars and coming for YOU next.

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Teukka  Jun 25, 2022 • 8:47:06pm

re: #205 stpaulbear

Not sure. My reaction is that she wants warehouses full of white babies available for sale/adoption to continue a white race majority - bein’ that she’s into Hitler and all that.

The same people who shifted to be pro-life, what was their goal before they became pro-life?

It was about white widdle babies, right from the start.
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 25, 2022 • 8:49:32pm

re: #126 Teukka

Checked out the numbers for maternal mortality. The US is 19 per 100k.

Guess the numbers for Finland and Sweden?

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Czech Republic is the same as Finland: 3/100,000 - in other words, a statistical blip.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 25, 2022 • 8:51:17pm

Whenever I challenge a religious-right anti-abortion activist online they invariable start to throw out nebulous terms and try to redefine words like “baby”.

I weary quickly of their obtuse behavior so I’m working on a new pinned tweet to throw in their faces whenever they go running to some basic English dictionary trying to defend their position.

Here’s the current draft. Please tell me where I can improve:

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stpaulbear  Jun 25, 2022 • 8:53:26pm

re: #207 Teukka

Rachel Maddow’s history of the pro-life movement.

Youtube Video

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 25, 2022 • 8:56:48pm

re: #199 The Pie Overlord!

The Pie clan will have more.

We hope.

But you have a head start on the Duggers. They are working hard to catch up.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 25, 2022 • 9:00:08pm

re: #168 Belafon

I’m legit surprised he dropped out. Given the current state of the GOP, you’d think he’d be using that as bragging rights.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 25, 2022 • 9:03:42pm

re: #209 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

“A baby is a person!!!”

- You know who else is a person? THE WOMAN.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 25, 2022 • 9:12:56pm

re: #198 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Don’t forget that Trump could also threaten to run third-party in order to keep the GOP in line.

That being said, I don’t think he’ll run in 2024; campaigning for POTUS is hard work and at his core, he’s a lazy fucker. He’d much rather just kick back, occasionally do one of his rallies to hustle the rubes for $$$ and pose as the GOPs kingmaker and have everyone fly down to Mar-a-Lago to kiss the ring his fat ass.

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2022 • 9:38:22pm

re: #213 GlutenFreeJesus

“A baby is a person!!!”

- You know who else is a person? THE WOMAN.

Yes, once it’s born and becomes a baby, then it is a person. Until then, the ONLY person is the woman.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 25, 2022 • 9:38:43pm
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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jun 25, 2022 • 9:41:05pm

re: #205 stpaulbear

Not sure. My reaction is that she wants warehouses full of white babies available for sale/adoption to continue a white race majority - bein’ that she’s into Hitler and all that.

In fact, white women for the most part will be able to get abortions; women of color, who are disproportionally poor, will not (unless they get lots of help from the rest of us). So much for their white supremacist dreams.

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austin_blue  Jun 25, 2022 • 9:43:02pm

re: #214 Dr Lizardo

Don’t forget that Trump could also threaten to run third-party in order to keep the GOP in line.

That being said, I don’t think he’ll run in 2024; campaigning for POTUS is hard work and at his core, he’s a lazy fucker. He’d much rather just kick back, occasionally do one of his rallies to hustle the rubes for $$$ and pose as the GOPs kingmaker and have everyone fly down to Mar-a-Lago to kiss the ring his fat ass.

I gotta disagree. He has settled on the grift, and it requires constant public events and requests for money. Whether he runs in 2024 is beside the point. The grift requires his constant public appearances.

It’s what he told Pence in ‘16: You run foreign and domestic policy, I’ll Make America Great Again.

That’s it. That was the deal. The idea is no different today. That’s the grift.

Put him in Joliet. He’s a thief.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jun 25, 2022 • 9:44:52pm

re: #211 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

We hope.

But you have a head start on the Duggers. They are working hard to catch up.

Actually, they’re revolting against their parents — many of them, anyway. And none of them have “full quivers.”

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2022 • 10:00:18pm

I got my shirt today:

I won’t be wearing it to jury duty on Monday, no matter how much I would like to get out of it, but I will wear it when I’m out around town in the near future.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 25, 2022 • 10:02:30pm

re: #218 austin_blue

I gotta disagree. He has settled on the grift, and it requires constant public events and requests for money. Whether he runs in 2024 is beside the point. The grift requires his constant public appearances.

It’s what he told Pence in ‘16: You run foreign and domestic policy, I’ll Make America Great Again.

That’s it. That was the deal. The idea is no different today. That’s the grift.

Put him in Joliet. He’s a thief.

You’ve got a good point there - I think that Trump gets off on the kind of public adulation he receives from his public events. That feeds his ego and that might be just as important to him as the money, quite honestly.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 25, 2022 • 10:02:41pm

re: #218 austin_blue

I gotta disagree. He has settled on the grift, and it requires constant public events and requests for money. Whether he runs in 2024 is beside the point. The grift requires his constant public appearances.

It’s what he told Pence in ‘16: You run foreign and domestic policy, I’ll Make America Great Again.

That’s it. That was the deal. The idea is no different today. That’s the grift.

Put him in Joliet. He’s a thief.

I agree. He will run. He wants the power and command of the center stage. Who knows what bargain he has made with the Russians to complete our destruction? If he is alive, he will contend for the GOP nomination. And his cult is out there declaring everything an insurrection — including Roe protests and the Colbert crew overstaying in the building — minimizing the crimes of this administration. JD Vance called Trump the American Hitler and that is exactly what he is. Hitler never gave up until his nation was reduced to rubble; that is the fate that awaits us.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Jun 25, 2022 • 10:09:03pm

re: #222 Hecuba’s daughter

I can almost guarantee you he’s not going to run. Unless there’s a Red Tsunami the likes of which will make me consider leaving the country, the only way he will run is if he is relentlessly goaded into it by “fans”, or Rabbit Season/Duck Season tricked into it.

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2022 • 10:11:06pm

Thread:

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 25, 2022 • 10:11:32pm

re: #223 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

I expect Trump to run, just so he can raise more money.

The other Republicans will hate him for it, but Trump is only in this for himself.

He knows he can pull in at least a quarter of a billion dollars by running.

He doesn’t even have to travel much. Once a week hold a rally in a friendly county.

The media will do the rest for him.

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Targetpractice  Jun 25, 2022 • 10:12:13pm

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth

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We’re dealing with religious fanatics in this country, they would have happily allowed that woman to die and left her child an orphan because “GOD WILLS IT!” And as her family grieved over the loss, they’d step up and offer empty words of “thoughts and prayers” before nattering on about “His plan” and “His will.”

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 25, 2022 • 10:16:06pm

re: #226 Targetpractice

We’re dealing with religious fanatics in this country, they would have happily allowed that woman to die and left her child an orphan because “GOD WILLS IT!” And as her family grieved over the loss, they’d step up and offer empty words of “thoughts and prayers” before nattering on about “His plan” and “His will.”

It’s just like that well-known quote from Barry Goldwater…

“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they’re sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can’t and won’t compromise. I know, I’ve tried to deal with them.”

He was absolutely 100% spot-on in that observation.

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2022 • 10:16:10pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 25, 2022 • 10:19:55pm

Because of our own reactionary politics tearing us down we are naturally fixated on the problems of our own country.

But things are not good elsewhere, even leaving Russia’s invasion of Ukraine aside:

Ethiopia’s Invisible Ethnic Cleansing

For more than a year and a half, a largely invisible campaign of ethnic cleansing has played out in Ethiopia’s northern region of Tigray. Older people, women, and children have been loaded onto trucks and forced out of their villages and hometowns. Men have been herded into overcrowded detention sites, where many have died of disease, starvation, or torture. In total, several hundred thousand Tigrayans have been forcibly uprooted because of their ethnicity.

[…]

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retired cynic  Jun 25, 2022 • 10:23:54pm

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 25, 2022 • 10:28:45pm

re: #225 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I expect Trump to run, just so he can raise more money.

The other Republicans will hate him for it, but Trump is only in this for himself.

He knows he can pull in at least a quarter of a billion dollars by running.

He doesn’t even have to travel much. Once a week hold a rally in a friendly county.

The media will do the rest for him.

How much of the 2 billion bribe that Prince Bonesaw gave Jared actually ended up in Trump’s pocket? We will see what the landscape will look like in 2024. Trump worked hard to stay in power when he lost; he knows that thanks to the outrageous EC he lost by only about 40,000 votes, even after allowing a pandemic to rage through this nation and (at the time) kill hundreds of thousands of Americans. Jack Burton may be right — but I fear that if he remains in good health, he will try again.

Of course, SCOTUS decisions may upend everything.

OT — Wording! A 3 today.
Warning. Also includes a potential clue.

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William Lewis  Jun 25, 2022 • 10:31:10pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 25, 2022 • 10:52:35pm

Trump will run because that’s the only way to keep the grift going, the only way to keep himself shielded from prosecution for his crimes. But he’ll also drag out the formal announcement as long as he can to keep as much money possible outside the oversight of the FEC. Even if he has no intention of running, he will maintain the illusion as long as he possibly can in order to keep the GQP under his thumb. The other candidates will purposefully avoid criticizing him or even explicitly seek his endorsement just to gain a possible edge should he not run.

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JC1  Jun 25, 2022 • 10:53:47pm

re: #170 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

Hmmm… this is a development. They are apparently capable of shame again.

Had this happened in 2017-2020, that clown would have worn this like a badge of honor and put it in his campaign ads.

Not in New England. This is Rhode Island, not Montana.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:02:14pm

re: #232 William Lewis

Birds can be remarkably clever for their tiny brains.

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sagehen  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:05:43pm

re: #235 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Birds can be remarkably clever for their tiny brains.

Youtube Video


They drop walnuts on the road for cars to run over and open them; then wait by the intersection for the lights to turn red and run out and grab the bits.

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mmmirele  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:12:50pm

I got banned for 12 hours for this.

Fuck Twitter.

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Mike Lamb  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:26:02pm

re: #237 mmmirele

I got banned for 12 hours for this.

Fuck Twitter.

That fucker would turn a blind eye to the courts mandating visitation to the rapist. She is such a piece of shit.

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Mike Lamb  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:27:05pm

Conspicuously absent from the bullshit tweet is any mention of the mother. Fuck. I fucking despise these people.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:41:15pm

re: #239 Mike Lamb

Conspicuously absent from the bullshit tweet is any mention of the mother broodmare. Fuck. I fucking despise these people.

Fixed that for you.

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Targetpractice  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:52:35pm

re: #237 mmmirele

I got banned for 12 hours for this.

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Fuck Twitter.

Wendy’s “pro-life” stance demands the child be forced to carry the pregnancy to term, even at risk to her own health, but is flexible enough to advocate the state permitting (if not endorsing) the murder of the rapist responsible in prison.

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EPR-radar  Jun 25, 2022 • 11:56:08pm

re: #237 mmmirele

A 12 hour time out for calling a right wing shitbag what they are? That’s nonsense, especially since you managed to do it without any curse words.

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EPR-radar  Jun 26, 2022 • 12:06:47am

re: #241 Targetpractice

Wendy’s “pro-life” stance demands the child be forced to carry the pregnancy to term, even at risk to her own health, but is flexible enough to advocate the state permitting (if not endorsing) the murder of the rapist responsible in prison.

Wendy here is a fucking death cultist, just like 99+% of all “pro-lifers”. For them, the life of the fetus is nothing but a club to use to oppress women.

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Captain Ron  Jun 26, 2022 • 12:16:50am

My daughter is downloading a big ass game and went to sleep, leaving me just 1 Mb/s of bandwidth. Luckily sh woke up to go to the bathroom and I got her to throttle it at 10 Mb/s. Now I can get back to The Umbrella Academy in 4k HDR.

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Targetpractice  Jun 26, 2022 • 12:28:33am

re: #243 EPR-radar

Wendy here is a fucking death cultist, just like 99+% of all “pro-lifers”. For them, the life of the fetus is nothing but a club to use to oppress women.

It’s not just about controlling women, Mary Miller made that clear tonight. It’s about control, period. It’s about the increasingly isolated, majority white evangelicals getting scared shitless that they’re on the cusp of permanently being rendered a minority and the view that the only way to avoid that is to make it impossible for white women in this country to do anything but have as many kids as possible. It’s why they cannot and will not ever agree to anything but a total ban on abortion, because any dead women are viewed as “acceptable losses” in a crusade to ensure a permanent white majority in America.

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steve_davis  Jun 26, 2022 • 1:47:11am

re: #7 Crush White Nationalism

I’ll believe it when I see it. Walker is currently tied with warnock in Georgia for instance.

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Captain Ron  Jun 26, 2022 • 1:49:26am

I think they are under-assessing our 1200 year drought.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 26, 2022 • 1:55:12am

re: #245 Targetpractice

Incestuous rape babies and dead mothers are “God’s will”, remember?

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Targetpractice  Jun 26, 2022 • 2:09:27am

re: #248 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Incestuous rape babies and dead mothers are “God’s will”, remember?

Note these are usually the same people who love to list child brides and arranged marriages (usually in reference to “honor killings”) as clear evidence that Islam is twisted and wrong.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 26, 2022 • 2:13:31am

re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not “dumb”, arrogant and manipulative yes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 26, 2022 • 2:22:09am

re: #249 Targetpractice

Note these are usually the same people who love to list child brides and arranged marriages (usually in reference to “honor killings”) as clear evidence that Islam is twisted and wrong.

Have you ever wondered why so many of them look like a cross between an Imam, a Confederate colonel and a member of ZZ Top?

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Targetpractice  Jun 26, 2022 • 2:26:54am

re: #251 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Have you ever wondered why so many of them look like a cross between an Imam, a Confederate colonel and a member of ZZ Top?

Considering the smell of many of them, I just assumed a general lack of grooming.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 26, 2022 • 2:32:25am

re: #252 Targetpractice

Considering the smell of many of them, I just assumed a general lack of grooming.

that is a side effect, they like the Biblical Patriarch look.

This is all about a sense of morality that arose from an era in human history when the head of a nomadic clan had to protect his property against depredation, whether it meant defending his flocks of sheep against wolves or his wives and daughters against getting knocked up (by anyone but himself or someone he approves of)

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Dave In Austin  Jun 26, 2022 • 2:59:47am

Morning all. Early morning puppy duty this morning.

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William Lewis  Jun 26, 2022 • 3:04:17am

re: #254 Dave In Austin

Morning all. Early morning puppy duty this morning.

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Targetpractice  Jun 26, 2022 • 3:09:10am

I’ve decided that I honestly prefer “Karens” and other angry guests than I do “helpful” ones, if only because I can ignore the assholes or have them removed from the property while all I can do is stand there and slowly go numb as I listen to someone who has absolutely no experience in the hospitality industry tell me about how a hotel should be run.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 26, 2022 • 3:12:02am

re: #254 Dave In Austin

Nothing makes atheism more attractive than American Christianity

I must admit that my Roman Catholic upbringing plus all the Campus Crusade for Christ assholes going around the dormitory halls did a lot to put me off Christianity completely.

It was not until much later that I encountered Christians who just quietly live their faith without proselytizing. It showed me that there were some redeeming features to the religion.

Not enough to convert me, but enough to alter my opinion of it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 26, 2022 • 3:13:08am

re: #256 Targetpractice

I’ve decided that I honestly prefer “Karens” and other angry guests than I do “helpful” ones, if only because I can ignore the assholes or have them removed from the property while all I can do is stand there and slowly go numb as I listen to someone who has absolutely no experience in the hospitality industry tell me about how a hotel should be run.

They just enjoy telling people what to do…

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 26, 2022 • 3:25:13am

re: #248 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Incestuous rape babies and dead mothers are “God’s will”, remember?

And if that is their gods will, then their god is a scumbag.

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Targetpractice  Jun 26, 2022 • 3:26:24am

re: #257 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I must admit that my Roman Catholic upbringing plus all the Campus Crusade for Christ assholes going around the dormitory halls did a lot to put me off Christianity completely.

It was not until much later that I encountered Christians who just quietly live their faith without proselytizing. It showed me that there were some redeeming features to the religion.

Not enough to convert me, but enough to alter my opinion of it.

After years of working for one of the least religious Muslims I’ve ever known and discussing religion in general, I decided that most my issues with religion really apply to organized religion. That a religious man by himself may be a bother but is one you can choose to ignore. It’s when they start traveling in packs and choose to make your life as a “sinner” absolutely miserable that I want to start cracking skulls.

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William Lewis  Jun 26, 2022 • 3:27:13am

re: #257 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I must admit that my Roman Catholic upbringing plus all the Campus Crusade for Christ assholes going around the dormitory halls did a lot to put me off Christianity completely.

It was not until much later that I encountered Christians who just quietly live their faith without proselytizing. It showed me that there were some redeeming features to the religion.

Not enough to convert me, but enough to alter my opinion of it.

As the old saying puts it, “Preach the gospel at all times. Only if necessary, use words.”

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 26, 2022 • 3:30:18am

3/6 this morning

Wordle 372 3/6

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Targetpractice  Jun 26, 2022 • 3:33:04am

re: #258 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They just enjoy telling people what to do…

Not all of them. Some genuinely believe that they’re the first person to ever come to the front desk and tell me that we need to clean our rooms better. Or we need to be doing more to maintain the appliances. Or that pest issues are something that are easily solved in a hotel with dozens of rooms housing utter slobs.

That last one is key because I very rarely have had a guest who stayed for longer than a night get complimented by the housekeeping staff for the cleanliness of their room upon checkout.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 26, 2022 • 3:37:03am

re: #257 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I lived in Wheaton, I’ll til I was 13 and moved to PHX.
I k ow about those folks all to well. Wheaton Collage spawned them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 26, 2022 • 3:37:35am

re: #263 Targetpractice

I have only complained twice: once when there was green scum in the shower stall and a second time when we got bedbugs from staying at a vacation cabin.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 26, 2022 • 3:38:58am

re: #264 Dave In Austin

I lived in Wheaton, I’ll til I was 13 and moved to PHX.
I k ow about those folks all to well. Wheaton Collage spawned them.

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They were so embedded in Arizona State University that the floor Resident Assistant at our dorm was a Campus Crusader.

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William Lewis  Jun 26, 2022 • 3:46:14am
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Targetpractice  Jun 26, 2022 • 3:46:47am

re: #265 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have only complained twice: once when there was green scum in the shower stall and a second time when we got bedbugs from staying at a vacation cabin.

I’ve lost count over the years of those with what I call the “laundry list,” i.e. the people who have spent their stay compiling a list of complaints (many of them petty) that they only unleash towards the end of their stay in order to make the staff appear negligent/incompetent in a clear effort to get compensation of some kind.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 26, 2022 • 4:07:42am

LOL

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No Malarkey!  Jun 26, 2022 • 4:15:29am

re: #267 William Lewis

Its important to let women in red states know that they can obtain abortion pills through the mail with the assistance of aidaccess.org. In most red states, it still isn’t a criminal offense for a pregnant woman to get an abortion, though I expect that forced birthers will begin pushing to prosecute women sooner rather than later.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 26, 2022 • 4:21:21am

re: #267 William Lewis

They’re not going to stop

and that has to be the main Democratic campaign message for the next four months:

IF YOU VOTE GOP, YOU ARE VOTING FOR PEOPLE WHO PLAN AND INTEND TO TAKE ABORTION RIGHTS AWAY FROM ALL AMERICAN WOMEN

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 26, 2022 • 4:22:46am

re: #270 No Malarkey!

Q has resumed posting on 8Kun again for the first time since December 2020.

I guess Ron Watkins’ run for office in AZ didn’t pan out or something.

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William Lewis  Jun 26, 2022 • 4:27:58am

And for something a little more fun…

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Decatur Deb  Jun 26, 2022 • 4:43:39am

re: #270 No Malarkey!

Q has resumed posting on 8Kun again for the first time since December 2020.

How can the identity of a notoriously anonymous person be validated?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 26, 2022 • 4:47:32am

re: #203 Teukka

She wore a Freudian Slip…

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Another brilliant show murdered by idiots

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John Hughes  Jun 26, 2022 • 4:52:47am

re: #275 Decatur Deb

How can the identity of a notoriously anonymous person be validated?

Dunno? Ask Banksy?

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Decatur Deb  Jun 26, 2022 • 4:55:09am

re: #277 John Hughes

Dunno? Ask Banksy?

Which one?

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 26, 2022 • 5:08:11am

It found me!

Campus Crusade for Cthulhu

EXPLORING YOUR LIFE’S INSIGNIFICANCE
Let’s sacrifice together

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Dr. Matt  Jun 26, 2022 • 5:08:29am

re: #270 No Malarkey!

Q has resumed posting on 8Kun again for the first time since December 2020.

What maga asshole was jailed about that time and has been recently released? Just a thought…

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Dr. Matt  Jun 26, 2022 • 5:30:00am

WTF!?!? 🤬🤬🤬

eSekdzB2AOTrKPovG6rU0QcnGgBTph/9nqxGu7yPoHz6l+WCaRHGzL7vqcFaNZhXYmWliByu8zxoaUjlzaDbNDqmF3Ysqu2JQrJdyklY755gVjrAyriWZFlZXD/4jdDfCa1pwl522uCo1ihHMO/fdXRdB5sCk3D7KNgC8AueCXglUYEtd4X9qHdLi+VywYn9aeQ2ZC0YcZc5gRzXHJ9QLWzkQc3WtPscnxi+vBORls6QE2rS+9wa9Oxm1Im1mtiacIlxJpv3JvCvk7BNFJ++QL9mLTujsGeGG+5M4TiyC5avRbvm1AAfcdEA/syVN7hATekb/FQjCA3pBYJzIPNFbdosevJUSgbZzwtCej+uZp8h7DGty/2AEJjraPUqRi+GiMSFAwBC/ULCIeenqKJoy9EwVoq43/z+FFahf9HaRKgoCgWD84fhaEYi6+EiFnNl

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jeffreyw  Jun 26, 2022 • 5:42:55am

Good morning!

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Dangerman  Jun 26, 2022 • 5:55:30am

we have field mice, voles actually

i said to MrsDM they’re out in force this morning
they just keep voling along

she threw the toaster oven at me

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 26, 2022 • 6:04:35am

I suspect the 6 justices are not anywhere near social media and will be in church this morning where they will only get handshakes, back-slapping, and hugs. This is why I’m pretty meh about loud protests outside their homes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 26, 2022 • 6:07:21am

re: #277 John Hughes

Dunno? Ask Banksy?

Every pseudohipster in London has at some point claimed to have met Banksy…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 26, 2022 • 6:07:56am

re: #283 Dangerman

voulez volé avec moi?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 26, 2022 • 6:09:01am

re: #283 Dangerman

we have field mice, voles actually

i said to MrsDM they’re out in force this morning
they just keep voling along

she threw the toaster oven at me

Was it an electronic toaster?

Then it is the Dawn of the Age of Vole-Tron

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TarHellion  Jun 26, 2022 • 6:11:52am

Wordle 372 2/6

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Woohoo! Has been a bit since a 2/6. Make it a great Sunday everyone!

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Dangerman  Jun 26, 2022 • 6:12:33am
“On the heels of their greatest victory, antiabortion activists are eager to capitalize on their momentum by enshrining constitutional abortion bans, pushing Congress to pass a national prohibition, blocking abortion pills, and limiting people’s ability to get abortions across state lines,” the Washington Post reports.

they are trying to impose their ‘states rights’ on your state

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Dangerman  Jun 26, 2022 • 6:13:56am
Donald Trump “is anxious about what the end of Roe, and the flood of extreme Republican state-level anti-abortion laws it will unleash, will mean for the GOP’s electoral prospects — and for his own,” Rolling Stone reports.

Said one source who spoke to Trump: “He keeps shitting all over his greatest accomplishment. When you speak to him, it’s the response of someone fearing the backlash and fearing the politics of what happens when conservatives actually get what they want.”

The source added: “I do not think he’s enjoying the moment as much as many of his supporters are, to be honest with you.”

if this reporting is true it’s because he thinks it’ll will hurt his electoral chances.
he doesnt care about the law or the win, just how it affects him.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 26, 2022 • 6:15:38am

Rhode Island cop put on leave after punching his Democratic opponent for state Senate at pro-Roe rally

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 26, 2022 • 6:16:01am

re: #289 Dangerman

Expect any GOP controlled House and Senate to pass a “live begins at conception” law which would effectively ban all abortion and many forms of contraception.

Followed by a “marriage is between a biological man and biological woman - their birth genders, no surgical/hormonal tampering allowed” law

again: IF YOU VOTE GOP, YOU ARE VOTING FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO IMLEMENT ALL THESE THINGS!!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 26, 2022 • 6:17:40am
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Dangerman  Jun 26, 2022 • 6:19:00am

re: #291 Dr. Matt

Rhode Island cop put on leave after punching his Democratic opponent for state Senate at pro-Roe rally

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I think I read he’s withdrawn from the race too

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 26, 2022 • 6:20:53am

About damn time….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 26, 2022 • 6:22:14am

re: #294 Dangerman

I think I read he’s withdrawn from the race too

What sort of woke dictatorship hellhole has America come to when a white man cannot publicly display his commitment to unborn life without being hounded out of his campaign for public office?

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Belafon  Jun 26, 2022 • 6:30:17am
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Dr. Matt  Jun 26, 2022 • 6:31:44am

Indeed, the show must go on….

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Dangerman  Jun 26, 2022 • 6:32:58am

Robert Reich..I don’t have a link

“Time for Collins and Democrats to walk the walk and pass a national right to abortion law” Robert Reich
Jun 25

I don’t know about you, but I’m tired of lawmakers trying to cover their backsides when the Supreme Court justices they voted to confirm turn out as bad as the rest of us thought. Today, senators Susan Collins and Joe Manchin say they feel betrayed by Kavanaugh and Gorsuch who, they say, promised during their confirmation hearings that they’d honor Roe v. Wade.

Other Democrats in Congress are expressing outrage at what the Supreme Court just did.

If Susan Collins and Joe Manchin feel betrayed, and others feel outraged, all have an easy fix: They can carve out a reproductive rights exemption to the filibuster, then enact national abortion rights. They could do it Monday.

Time for the defenders of reproductive rights to act when they have the power, instead of posturing.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 26, 2022 • 6:38:00am

Well, this is some weird shit….

South African police are investigating the deaths of at least 20 people at a nightclub in the coastal town of East London early Sunday morning.

It is unclear what led to the deaths of the young people, who were reportedly attending a party to celebrate the end of winter school exams.

Local newspaper Daily Dispatch reported that bodies were strewn across tables and chairs without any visible signs of injuries.

apnews.com

Apparently, the death toll is now up to 24. I wonder if they drank tainted alcohol or something? We had a case here in Czech Republic back in 2012 where 38 people died in a matter of a few days from drinking bathtub gin contaminated with methanol.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 26, 2022 • 6:38:45am

re: #268 Targetpractice

I’ve lost count over the years of those with what I call the “laundry list,” i.e. the people who have spent their stay compiling a list of complaints (many of them petty) that they only unleash towards the end of their stay in order to make the staff appear negligent/incompetent in a clear effort to get compensation of some kind.

There are “pro consumer” websites and gurus who recommend doing exactly this for just the reason you described (to try and get a discount or freebie from the store/hotel/restaurant etc.)

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Dangerman  Jun 26, 2022 • 6:39:05am

The Vatican calls out “pro-lifers” in the US for cherrypicking the Bible on abortion, and tells them that “being pro-life also means being concerned about the mortality rates of women who give birth” and “defending life against the threat of firearms”.

Usnews

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Dangerman  Jun 26, 2022 • 6:44:18am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 26, 2022 • 6:49:36am

re: #302 Dangerman

The Vatican calls out “pro-lifers” in the US for cherrypicking the Bible on abortion, and tells them that “being pro-life also means being concerned about the mortality rates of women who give birth” and “defending life against the threat of firearms”.

Usnews

The Vatican were vehemently anti Roe v Wade long before it became a Fundamentalist Protestant hobbyhorse.

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Belafon  Jun 26, 2022 • 6:50:23am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 26, 2022 • 6:51:40am

America also has a problem with 7.62mm

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Belafon  Jun 26, 2022 • 6:55:49am

Thread:

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Belafon  Jun 26, 2022 • 6:58:51am

I’m in favor of expanding the Supreme Court, but, if we don’t built up the groups on the left that keep progressives in power and weaken the Republican party, they will just take over the liberal court.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 26, 2022 • 7:00:24am

re: #205 stpaulbear

Not sure. My reaction is that she wants warehouses full of white babies available for sale/adoption to continue a white race majority - bein’ that she’s into Hitler and all that.

Even Gilead had handmaids of color (only in the Hulu series, in the original book Margaret Atwood made it clear that Gilead was a white supremacist society.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 26, 2022 • 7:01:47am

re: #309 The Pie Overlord!

Even Gilead had handmaids of color (only in the Hulu series, in the original book Margaret Atwood made it clear that Gilead was a white supremacist society.)

Fundamentalist Protestantism is based on White Supremacy.

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Dangerman  Jun 26, 2022 • 7:04:09am

Democrats should make the case that the court is now a tool of rightwing extremism.
That’s why it needs to be reformed and made accountable.
The court does not have any ombudsman like IGs in the executive branch.
It is not subject to FOIA.
Recusal is left to the discretion of the justices.
The lifetime appointment process is being abused with unqualified judges and justices getting in when they are not even 35 years old.

The pretzel logic used in the gun case and dobbs means they can go after anything.
That’s why this is everyone’s problem.
Not just abortion adjacent, LGBTq etc.
ObamaCare again
and Why not social security?
Or “school prayer” or creationism
Tell me why they cant/wont/wouldnt

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A Mom Anon  Jun 26, 2022 • 7:08:26am

re: #298 Dr. Matt

As someone who has panic disorder and isn’t Tracii’s biggest fan, that’s pretty damned brave. And kinda badass. Good for him, it’s so hard to work through those attacks let alone function.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 26, 2022 • 7:08:33am

re: #211 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

We hope.

But you have a head start on the Duggers. They are working hard to catch up.

One thing that you can NOT predict is how future generations of the clan will turn out. They should be able to make their own decisions about their own lives.

BTW that also applies to the Pie clan. If any of my descendants stray “off the path” they are always welcomed with love and great food.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 26, 2022 • 7:13:04am

re: #244 Captain Ron

My daughter is downloading a big ass game and went to sleep, leaving me just 1 Mb/s of bandwidth. Luckily sh woke up to go to the bathroom and I got her to throttle it at 10 Mb/s. Now I can get back to The Umbrella Academy in 4k HDR.

Finished binge watching season 3 last night. Spoiler alert!

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 26, 2022 • 7:17:09am

re: #310 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Fundamentalist Protestantism is based on White Supremacy.

Fundamentalist religious conviction invariably is really worship of one’s own race and culture and the diminishing or elimination of everyone else. The gods and goddesses, the myths and histories, eschatology and ceremonies may differ but one constant thread is the natural superiority of oneself against all others.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 26, 2022 • 7:24:35am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 26, 2022 • 7:25:18am

re: #307 Belafon

Thread:

Ain’t going to happen with the current makeup of Congress. And it’s so much easier to say “Biden’s fault” than to understand that we need more progressives in Congress.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jun 26, 2022 • 7:25:58am

re: #282 jeffreyw

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Western good morning!

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darthstar  Jun 26, 2022 • 7:30:32am
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Belafon  Jun 26, 2022 • 7:42:22am
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Ace Rothstein  Jun 26, 2022 • 7:54:26am

I didn’t think any politician could make me feel more disgust than Trump, but Kristi Noem comes very close.

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ipsos  Jun 26, 2022 • 7:59:12am

re: #321 Ace Rothstein

The dead eyes.

The dead soul

The robotic scripts.

I’d say “what an awful human being” but there’s no evidence she is any kind of human being at all.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 26, 2022 • 7:59:46am

re: #320 Belafon

It’s a great quote, but doesn’t Germany use the metric system?

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Dr. Matt  Jun 26, 2022 • 8:01:12am

re: #321 Ace Rothstein

I didn’t think any politician could make me feel more disgust than Trump, but Kristi Noem comes very close.

I’ll see your Noem and raise you a Mitch McConnell.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 26, 2022 • 8:02:10am

re: #322 ipsos

In that interview with Brennan when Brennan asked her about enacting similar “bounty laws” in her state like what Texas has, Noem said she couldn’t imagine that ever happening in her state. She didn’t say she wouldn’t though. The perfect follow up from Brennan would’ve been “So if your state’s legislature passes similar bounty laws and puts the legislation on your desk for your signature, would you sign it?”

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 26, 2022 • 8:03:03am

re: #324 Dr. Matt

I’ll see your Noem and raise you a Mitch McConnell.

I’m all in with Ron DeSantis.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 26, 2022 • 8:03:31am

re: #314 Hecuba’s daughter

Finished binge watching season 3 last night. Spoiler alert!

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Belafon  Jun 26, 2022 • 8:04:29am
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A Mom Anon  Jun 26, 2022 • 8:05:18am

Need some advice about TV services and the like, since we’re late in a thread and I won’t be interrupting.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 26, 2022 • 8:09:54am

re: #308 Belafon

I’m in favor of expanding the Supreme Court, but, if we don’t built up the groups on the left that keep progressives in power and weaken the Republican party, they will just take over the liberal court.

Expanding the Court ought to come with a raft of other democratic reforms that would make it harder for the fascist minority to regain power, such as expansion of the House, admittance of D.C. and Puerto Rico to the union as states, abolishment of dark money in politics, and reforms to make voting very easy.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 26, 2022 • 8:13:30am

re: #329 A Mom Anon

Need some advice about TV services and the like, since we’re late in a thread and I won’t be interrupting.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 26, 2022 • 8:17:18am

Abortion isn’t in the Constitution! Neither is the internet.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 26, 2022 • 8:19:06am

re: #332 Ace Rothstein

Abortion isn’t in the Constitution! Neither is the internet.

Neither is “semi-automatic”.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 26, 2022 • 8:20:07am
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A Mom Anon  Jun 26, 2022 • 8:21:58am

re: #331 No Malarkey!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 26, 2022 • 8:26:49am

re: #327 No Malarkey!

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Belafon  Jun 26, 2022 • 8:29:09am

re: #334 No Malarkey!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 26, 2022 • 8:29:30am

How DHS uses pineapple on pizza to explain how disinformation is propogated. It’s an excellent infographic.

Understanding Foreign Interference in 5 Steps

To date, we have no evidence of Russia (or any nation) actively carrying out information operations against pizza toppings. This infographic is an ILLUSTRATION of how information operations have been carried out in the past to exploit divisions in the United States.

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Teukka  Jun 26, 2022 • 8:37:23am

[vent/rant]
So… Over on a chat, a pro-lifer asked in DM how much trauma a rape causes (he is on the fence about allowing rape victims abortions, officially nope). I dropped this screed at him.

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He has been quiet since. Figures.
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nines09  Jun 26, 2022 • 8:38:22am

re: #335 A Mom Anon

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Belafon  Jun 26, 2022 • 8:39:59am
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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jun 26, 2022 • 8:41:35am

re: #323 Dr. Matt

It’s a great quote, but doesn’t Germany use the metric system?

She may be translating from the original German — in which case, swapping idioms has been known to happen.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 26, 2022 • 8:42:18am

Some good stuff being said here.

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 26, 2022 • 8:55:30am

re: #326 Ace Rothstein

I’m all in with Ron DeSantis.

DeSantis is running against Trump and is likely to win IMO. I live in Florida, where the DeSantis reign of utter corruption is supreme. DeSantis is the dictator American fascists have been looking for. He is every bit the autocrat the far right wing has been looking for without the morally depraved family or circus sideshow Trump provided in the past. But he still does represent the very worst of Trump’s racist and anti-science inclinations, all without the clown shoes.

DeSantis is also much more politically savvy with recent pivots to the left on policy such as siding with the solar industry against the established power companies. His veto of recent legislation sided with those that want established net metering rules instead of power companies gaining yet another chokehold over solar adoption in this state. Very savvy move on DeSantis’ part. But don’t be fooled. He is not on any side but his own self-promotion and his utter disdain for liberal thought, facts, evidence and science. His recent pivots are nothing but a smokescreen for what could be a very bitter period of time in America should he win in 2024.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 26, 2022 • 8:56:23am

The memes are getting really dumb.

Holy mother of false equivalencies.
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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jun 26, 2022 • 8:59:27am

re: #331 No Malarkey!

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Teddy's Person  Jun 26, 2022 • 9:03:56am

re: #344 Florida Panhandler

DeSantis is running against Trump and is likely to win IMO. I live in Florida, where the DeSantis reign of utter corruption is supreme. DeSantis is the dictator American fascists have been looking for. He is every bit the autocrat the far right wing has been looking for without the morally depraved family or circus sideshow Trump provided in the past. But he still does represent the very worst of Trump’s racist and anti-science inclinations, all without the clown shoes.

DeSantis is also much more politically savvy with recent pivots to the left on policy such as siding with the solar industry against the established power companies. His veto of recent legislation sided with those that want established net metering rules instead of power companies gaining yet another chokehold over solar adoption in this state. Very savvy move on DeSantis’ part. But don’t be fooled. He is not on any side but his own self-promotion and his utter disdain for liberal thought, facts, evidence and science. His recent pivots are nothing but a smokescreen for what could be a very bitter period of time in America should he win in 2024.

Does DeSantis have the “charisma” or maybe stage presence is a better way to put it (i.e., obnoxious bully who punches down) that seems to draw MAGAs to Trump? I’ve paid attention to his policies and read about things he’s said but never have actually watched a public speech or presser. My impression is that he is as “charismatic” as Scott Walker (who always looks like he just woke up from a nap).

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jun 26, 2022 • 9:04:13am

re: #344 Florida Panhandler

If DeSantis beats Trump in the primary, Trump is going to go nuclear on him. Of course, the dumbshit Democrats won’t have the stones to take advantage of the chaos, but it will be legendary nonetheless.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 26, 2022 • 9:06:10am

DeSantis is just as much the authoritarian asshole that Trump is but not the dolt.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 26, 2022 • 9:07:49am

re: #348 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

If DeSantis beats Trump in the primary, Trump is going to go nuclear on him. Of course, the dumbshit Democrats won’t have the stones to take advantage of the chaos, but it will be legendary nonetheless.

What I’d love to see? Trump gets whupped by DeSantis, then - in a fit of pique - Trump goes third party or write-in campaign.

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JC1  Jun 26, 2022 • 9:09:18am

re: #350 Dr Lizardo

What I’d love to see? Trump gets whupped by DeSantis, then - in a fit of pique - Trump goes third party or write-in campaign.

Forget write in; he could start the 45/Trump party. That would be glorious.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 26, 2022 • 9:11:32am

re: #350 Dr Lizardo

What I’d love to see? Trump gets whupped by DeSantis, then - in a fit of pique - Trump goes third party or write-in campaign.

I’m hoping Trump will be too busy fighting in court to stay out of prison.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 26, 2022 • 9:11:35am

re: #351 JC1

Forget write in; he could start the 45/Trump party. That would be glorious.

Absolutely glorious. The GOP would implode.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 26, 2022 • 9:11:41am

If the Florida Mussolini gets the GOP nomination over Agent Orange, anyone that thinks Orange is just going to accept it and go away, wooooooo buddy.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 26, 2022 • 9:12:39am

re: #354 Ace Rothstein

If the Florida Mussolini gets the GOP nomination over Agent Orange, anyone that thinks Orange is just going to accept it and go away, wooooooo buddy.

Trump would go to the convention insisting the primaries were rigged and demanding that the delegates be freed.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 26, 2022 • 9:12:49am

Damn, they’re getting some wild weather over in China….

Youtube Video

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No Malarkey!  Jun 26, 2022 • 9:20:28am
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Ace Rothstein  Jun 26, 2022 • 9:23:27am

Everything has a shelf life in politics. People eventually get tired of you and want to move on. Orange is no exception.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 26, 2022 • 9:27:09am

re: #355 No Malarkey!

Trump would go to the convention insisting the primaries were rigged and demanding that the delegates be freed.

Wouldn’t it be delicious if there was a MAGA riot at the GOP Convention demanding that Trump be made the nominee?

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 26, 2022 • 9:28:52am

re: #359 No Malarkey!

Wouldn’t it be delicious if there was a MAGA riot at the GOP Convention demanding that Trump be made the nominee?

That’d be ratings gold! Hell, I’d watch!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 26, 2022 • 9:30:59am

DeSantis will run against Agent Orange but will end up being his VP.

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jaunte  Jun 26, 2022 • 9:31:14am

re: #349 Ace Rothstein

He also has the same Achilles heel Trump does. He’s a user who demonstrates no loyalty to his associates.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 26, 2022 • 9:31:33am

re: #359 No Malarkey!

Wouldn’t it be delicious if there was a MAGA riot at the GOP Convention demanding that Trump be made the nominee?

Yes.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 26, 2022 • 9:32:22am

WTF did anyone hear about this incident?

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I never saw or read anything about this, and it happened last Saturday.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jun 26, 2022 • 9:43:40am
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PhillyPretzel  Jun 26, 2022 • 9:56:19am

re: #365 BlueSpotinAL

His own personal summit. /

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terraincognita  Jun 26, 2022 • 9:57:33am

re: #359 No Malarkey!

Wouldn’t it be delicious if there was a MAGA riot at the GOP Convention demanding that Trump be made the nominee?

And that is precisely why I hope Milwaukee doesn’t get the 2024 Republican national convention… It’s going to be an absolute shitshow with antifa demonstrations coupled with MAGA’s going after DeSantis supporters in the streets. A good possibility of violence with need for the call-up of the Wisconsin National Guard. Save this for some large southern city that can put up with this potential destructive debacle through the power of prayer.

I know Milwaukee wants the convention because of getting screwed with the severe downsizing of the 2020 Democratic convention. Unfortunately, the Republicans will consider this city because of swing state Wisconsin. Bad juju.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 26, 2022 • 10:05:30am

re: #356 Dr Lizardo

Damn, they’re getting some wild weather over in China….

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looks like “Day after Tomorrow”!

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 26, 2022 • 10:08:30am

re: #317 GlutenFreeJesus

Ain’t going to happen with the current makeup of Congress. And it’s so much easier to say “Biden’s fault” than to understand that we need more progressives in Congress.

I concur, with the caveat that we get pragmatic progressives rather than those of the “purity pony” sort.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 26, 2022 • 10:09:34am

re: #364 Dr Lizardo

WTF did anyone hear about this incident?

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I never saw or read anything about this, and it happened last Saturday.

Some mandate of heaven stuff going on….

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Teukka  Jun 26, 2022 • 10:10:42am

Just an idea I saw float by…

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 26, 2022 • 10:12:34am

re: #351 JC1

Forget write in; he could start the 45/Trump party. That would be glorious.

Assuming he can find fools willing to bankroll it. Trump will not fund it himself beyond bloviating about it and running grifts while not actually spending a dime.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 26, 2022 • 10:23:28am
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PhillyPretzel  Jun 26, 2022 • 10:25:45am

re: #373 DodgerFan1988

Same here.

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Teukka  Jun 26, 2022 • 10:26:14am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2022 • 10:28:50am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 26, 2022 • 10:29:18am

re: #370 Barefoot Grin

Some mandate of heaven stuff going on….

Yeah, that was my thought, too: Between that and the severe flooding in southern China, looks like the Emperor has lost the Mandate of Heaven.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 26, 2022 • 10:48:17am

SMH.

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stpaulbear  Jun 26, 2022 • 11:01:43am

Some good information about the timeline for the judicial investigation of 1/6

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 26, 2022 • 11:28:19am

re: #379 stpaulbear

Some good information about the timeline for the judicial investigation of 1/6

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I was just listening in the car to this. I liked the part about evidence against Trump: ‘there’s a lot of evidence, but it’s more of a mosaic than smoking gun;’ [Al Franken] ‘yeah, but when you pull back, it’s a mosaic of a smoking gun.’

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sagehen  Jun 26, 2022 • 11:30:39am

Is this a good time to remember how much Kirsten Gillibrand needs a permanent side-eye? And maybe look down my nose and snort, shake my head, etc.

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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Jun 26, 2022 • 11:30:51am
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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Jun 26, 2022 • 11:36:30am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2022 • 11:38:09am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2022 • 11:39:41am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 26, 2022 • 11:45:51am

So, I’m thinking if you are helping someone arrange a camping trip, you’d want to make sure the car is loaded with camping gear and you have a campsite booked well ahead of time?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2022 • 11:48:11am
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jaunte  Jun 26, 2022 • 11:49:22am

re: #387 Backwoods_Sleuth

As every rw extremist knows, these are the only two choices.

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stpaulbear  Jun 26, 2022 • 11:49:51am

re: #347 Teddy’s Person

Does DeSantis have the “charisma” or maybe stage presence is a better way to put it (i.e., obnoxious bully who punches down) that seems to draw MAGAs to Trump? I’ve paid attention to his policies and read about things he’s said but never have actually watched a public speech or presser. My impression is that he is as “charismatic” as Scott Walker (who always looks like he just woke up from a nap COMA).

Edited for my impression.

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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Jun 26, 2022 • 11:54:39am

re: #386 Eclectic Cyborg

So, I’m thinking if you are helping someone arrange a camping trip, you’d want to make sure the car is loaded with camping gear and you have a campsite booked well ahead of time?

You know, the Los Angeles Dodgers are a popular baseball team nationwide. And, per usual, they are very good this year, so most games are sold out.

I will help any Dodger fans from states that are not represented by Major League Baseball to get tickets for good seats at Dodger Stadium.

All they need to do is email me with “Let’s Go Dodgers!” in the subject line, and I’ll know *exactly* what they’re talking about.

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stpaulbear  Jun 26, 2022 • 11:56:53am

re: #350 Dr Lizardo

What I’d love to see? Trump gets whupped by DeSantis, then - in a fit of pique - Trump goes third party or write-in campaign.

I may have to vote as a republican during MN’s open primaries this year. I’ve done it once before in the 80’s when there was no drama on the D side but some dangerous Rs on the other side.

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nines09  Jun 26, 2022 • 11:59:32am

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 26, 2022 • 12:10:16pm

re: #387 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’ll bet he thought that sounded smart.

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William Lewis  Jun 26, 2022 • 12:36:56pm

re: #391 stpaulbear

I may have to vote as a republican during MN’s open primaries this year. I’ve done it once before in the 80’s when there was no drama on the D side but some dangerous Rs on the other side.

I will be in the local primary here. We have three republicans and no democrats running for Sherriff. The incumbent is semi-sane; the challengers are not. I’ll vote for the devil I know.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 26, 2022 • 4:48:07pm

re: #345 Colère Tueur de Lapin

The memes are getting really dumb.

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So hunting animals is murder now?

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John Hughes  Jun 26, 2022 • 4:59:35pm

re: #299 Dangerman

Ok.

Let’s get real here

No other democratic country has a “filibuster”*.

The “filibuster” is, even in America, a recent invention.

The “filibuster” is not a protection against the “tyranny of the majority”.

Just fucking dump it. Carve out an exception that is as big as Trump’s ass.

(* Actually many countries have an anti-filibuster — for example in the UK the government can explicitly limit debate on a law, and the only way around that is a vote of no confidence, in France the government can invoke article 42 of the constitution, which says the law pases unless the parliament votes no confidence…)


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