The Extremist Supreme Court Is Turning the US Into a Heavily Armed Christian Theocracy

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The Supreme Court, stacked with religious fanatics by Donald Trump and the extremist Federalist Society, is turning the US into a thuggish Christian theocracy right in front of our eyes with one horrifying ruling after another.

Today the fanatical majority ruled that schools must allow public, coerced, Christian prayers on school property — and they straight up lied about the circumstances to do it.

Sotomayor’s dissent, which included photographs of the prayers in question, suggested that she thought the majority was not describing accurately the factual circumstances of the case.

“As the majority tells it, Kennedy, a coach for the District’s football program, ‘lost his job’ for ‘(praying) quietly while his students were otherwise occupied,’” she wrote. “The record before us, however, tells a different story.”

Her dissent also pointedly noted that the school district tried to accommodate the coach by offering him a place to pray, off the field. “Again, the District emphasized that it was happy to accommodate Kennedy’s desire to pray on the job in a way that did not interfere with his duties or risk perceptions of endorsement,” she said.

She said that it was “unprecedented” for the court to hold that Kennedy’s conduct, “taken as a whole, did not raise cognizable” concerns of coercion.

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258 comments
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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:01:33am

Arm up.
You can get lethal pellet guns without a FOID card, including silent sniper rifles, so when fascists come for you, they have no idea that you’re armed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:01:33am

JFC

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jaunte  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:01:46am
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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:04:04am

re: #3 jaunte

Why are people hiding the names of absolute scumbags who say horrible things in public?

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:05:14am

re: #399 Hecuba’s daughter

Fine to pass it, but let’s not expect it to survive. Our focus is too short-term. The “anti-life” movement played the long game and we are going to continue to lose if we don’t do the same.

It’s part of a long term plan, which will include getting people to realize that voting has to occur all the time.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:07:47am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:09:24am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:11:56am

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s going to take many Holy Hand Grenades of Antioch.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:12:18am

re: #6 Charles Johnson

You’re sniping at someone who is doing the right thing.

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lawhawk  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:13:45am

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

Youtube Video

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:14:11am

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

Day of the Lepus? A sequel to the 1972 “classic”?

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:15:27am

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s fun to be somewhere that’s dangerous at other times.

I once laid down on Main Street in Lombard at about 3am while printing books overnight for an event the next day. It’s a weird feeling being somewhere you’d die during active hours.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:19:35am
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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:20:14am

re: #9 Crush White Nationalism

You’re sniping at someone who is doing the right thing.

He’s a phony. He’s not “doing the right thing,” he’s exploiting the left to get even richer than he already is.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:21:06am
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Eventual Carrion  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:21:22am

Here is the chopper that fly’s along the railroad tracks once a week or so checking for obstructions and such. Some guys I know think they are looking for their pot plants. I tell them they are being paranoid. I know the guy that does the maintenance on those choppers, and they are not police.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:23:06am

jfc not this shit again

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:24:17am

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:24:58am

re: #17 The Pie Overlord!

jfc not this shit again

She’s describing how sex works.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:25:44am

re: #6 Charles Johnson

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I am not a fan of Joe Scarborough, but the last of those votes was more than twenty years ago. Peoples opinions do change sometimes.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:29:47am

Scarborough was also instrumental in building up Donald Trump’s support. I don’t think these two things are unrelated, and I do not believe his opinions have changed.

But whatever. I’m apparently out of sync here.

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Dangerman  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:31:28am

from downstairs

re: #332 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

. You may not be aware of this, but the judiciary is [now] an important [outsized] influence on the lives of Americans.

So… Judges. Judges. Judges

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gocart mozart  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:32:22am
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William Lewis  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:33:00am

re: #21 Charles Johnson

Scarborough was also instrumental in building up Donald Trump’s support. I don’t think these two things are unrelated, and I do not believe his opinions have changed.

But whatever. I’m apparently out of sync here.

Not with me. People like him remind me of Maxim 30:

“A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you’ll go.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:35:17am
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wrenchwench  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:40:26am

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Youtube Video

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:43:10am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:43:59am
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mmmirele  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:46:21am

This isn’t the 1990s and Santa Fe ISD v Doe where the Mormons and Catholics were quite in the minority. We’re today, and I can VERY MUCH see the local high school just torn apart between various religious groups. One part of me says these asshats deserve it, on the other hand, it’s a prelude to the religious wars some of our ancestors fled.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:47:42am

thread starts here:

latest update was a few minutes ago

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:51:29am

Capitalism, FTW!

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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:51:33am
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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:52:02am

re: #13 No Malarkey!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:53:38am
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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:54:31am

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:57:13am
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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:57:42am

But hey, maybe Jeffrey Toobin has changed. I shouldn’t be sniping at him.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:58:28am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

I could die a happy man if it turns out that documentary crew was filming in the White House on January 6th and got Trump on video babbling about the “perfect coup” he’d arranged and how he privately told the Proud Boys and the III%’ers to kill all the Democrats (and Pence) for him so he could stay in power.

That’d be some real “Is you takin’ notes on a fuckin’ criminal conspiracy?!” magic right there.

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danarchy  Jun 27, 2022 • 11:59:31am

re: #35 Crush White Nationalism

Not that I feel the need to be fair to MTG, but that is the order that the SCOTUS decisions came down.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:00:31pm

re: #37 Charles Johnson

But hey, maybe Jeffrey Toobin has changed. I shouldn’t be sniping at him.

Maybe he made a mistake, and did not intentionally expose himself.
I thought it weird that they brought him back, but he didn’t intentionally commit a crime.

There are so many theocratic fascists you could snipe at rather than sniping at an ally who’s now a married man and has more respect for women than he once had.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:00:34pm

re: #39 danarchy

Not that I feel the need to be fair to MTG, but that is the order that the SCOTUS decisions came down.

I thought about giving her the benefit of the doubt due to alphabetizing, but I’m gonna say she doesn’t know how.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:00:41pm
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wrenchwench  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:01:52pm

re: #37 Charles Johnson

But hey, maybe Jeffrey Toobin has changed. I shouldn’t be sniping at him.

Always wait for evidence. Continues the snipes.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:04:22pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:04:26pm

re: #40 Crush White Nationalism

Maybe he made a mistake, and did not intentionally expose himself.
I thought it weird that they brought him back, but he didn’t intentionally commit a crime.

There are so many theocratic fascists you could snipe at rather than sniping at an ally who’s now a married man and has more respect for women than he once had.

You mean the ones I’m always sniping at?

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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:05:17pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:05:33pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

You mean the ones I’m always sniping at?

Yes. Go wild with them! Someone who is currently saying the right things in public does not deserve your ire.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:06:25pm

re: #46 Charles Johnson

Theocratic fascists told us there would be violence, and they delivered.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:06:27pm

re: #40 Crush White Nationalism

Maybe he made a mistake, and did not intentionally expose himself.

You can’t be serious. The dude was whacking off. He didn’t “accidentally” leave his dick out.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:06:52pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

I can’t really read the images at the bottom other than I just made out “Eptopic pregnancies are always treated.” And we know that’s false.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:07:22pm

re: #47 Crush White Nationalism

Yes. Go wild with them! Someone who is currently saying the right things in public does not deserve your ire.

I disagree, and I’m not going to stop criticizing Scarborough.

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darthstar  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:09:45pm

Looks like Counter Social has their own Siri.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:11:52pm

re: #52 darthstar

I do not trust that guy.

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lawhawk  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:13:49pm

I’ve also seen polling that suggests that Democrats just had a 10-15 point swing in their favor since just last week.

Yeah, that’s good news, despite the reason for it was the deprivation of rights and liberties for women all across the nation. It took the nuclear option of wrecking Roe to get people realizing the deadly seriousness of the situation?

Ok. Fine. You’re now getting people recognizing the seriousness of things. Vote as if your life depends on it - because it fucking does.

Every election matters.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:14:47pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

You can’t be serious. The dude was whacking off. He didn’t “accidentally” leave his dick out.

He did accidentally keep his camera on. He didn’t try to destroy his career on purpose.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:16:04pm

re: #51 Charles Johnson

I disagree, and I’m not going to stop criticizing Scarborough.

Do what you want to do, but I think your time would be better spent focused on the people calling for theocracy rather than those who oppose it.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:16:35pm

re: #55 Crush White Nationalism

He did accidentally keep his camera on. He didn’t try to destroy his career on purpose.

Sure, he wanted to whack off secretly while in a Zoom meeting with his colleagues. You can’t seriously believe that’s OK.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:16:58pm

re: #56 Crush White Nationalism

Do what you want to do, but I think your time would be better spent focused on the people calling for theocracy rather than those who oppose it.

I will choose how to spend my time, thanks.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:17:54pm

re: #57 Charles Johnson

Sure, he wanted to whack off secretly while in a Zoom meeting with his colleagues. You can’t seriously believe that’s OK.

That’s a fair point, and is not OK. I hadn’t really thought about that angle, and am now not OK with his return.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:18:04pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

I will choose how to spend my time, thanks.

Of course.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:19:06pm
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danarchy  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:19:07pm

re: #55 Crush White Nationalism

He did accidentally keep his camera on. He didn’t try to destroy his career on purpose.

He was jerking off in the middle of a meeting, whether or not he left the camera on by mistake is irrelevant. He couldn’t, at a minimum, wait till the meeting was over to beat off?

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William Lewis  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:19:07pm

re: #48 Crush White Nationalism

Theocratic fascists told us there would be violence, and they delivered.

Yet another example of why the left needs to arm themselves.

The war is coming, and I fear it will make the Yugoslavian breakup look like a picnic.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:19:24pm

It’s a Wordle. And not just any Wordle. It’s Tomorrow’s Wordle.

Wordle 374 5/6

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Ugh. Had it in four, then thought of a better possibility. “Better.” Idiot.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:19:43pm

re: #59 Crush White Nationalism

That’s a fair point, and is not OK. I hadn’t really thought about that angle, and am now not OK with his return.

Wait, you were convinced to change your mind about something? How is this possible? I thought the epitome of being an American was telling people to fuck off when presented with evidence that threatens your beliefs?

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No Malarkey!  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:21:31pm

re: #41 Belafon

I thought about giving her the benefit of the doubt due to alphabetizing, but I’m gonna say she doesn’t know how.

Considering that she tweeted that red flag laws are bad because rightwing terrorists need their guns to kill the political opposition, I’m not cutting her any slack at all.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:21:45pm

re: #65 Dopamine Fish

Wait, you were convinced to change your mind about something? How is this possible? I thought the epitome of being an American was telling people to fuck off when presented with evidence that threatens your beliefs?

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Jeff Toobin’s right to a high-paid job wasn’t one of my cherished beliefs, just something I was willing to let go when I hadn’t thought it through, so I have not been tested yet.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:22:36pm
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Eventual Carrion  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:22:44pm

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yes she is a singer, same as Sonny Bono.

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sagehen  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:23:46pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

You can’t be serious. The dude was whacking off. He didn’t “accidentally” leave his dick out.

He did accidentally leave the camera on. (or so he says)

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:23:51pm

re: #66 No Malarkey!

Considering that she tweeted that red flag laws are bad because rightwing terrorists need their guns to kill the political opposition, I’m not cutting her any slack at all.

I shouldn’t have been even a little shocked by that, but I was, slightly, that she out in the open said that theocratic terrorists should have guns. We’re farther down the road to civil war against theocratic fascists than I had realized.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:24:20pm

re: #67 Crush White Nationalism

Jeff Toobin’s right to a high-paid job wasn’t one of my cherished beliefs, just something I was willing to let go when I hadn’t thought it through, so I have not been tested yet.

Fair, but I see too many people who double down on even the stupidest shit, because they literally cannot be wrong. About anything. At all.

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:24:49pm

re: #29 mmmirele

This isn’t the 1990s and Santa Fe ISD v Doe where the Mormons and Catholics were quite in the minority. We’re today, and I can VERY MUCH see the local high school just torn apart between various religious groups. One part of me says these asshats deserve it, on the other hand, it’s a prelude to the religious wars some of our ancestors fled.

An old high school acquaintance on FB a few years ago let it be known that he, as a Jew, was made to feel unwelcome and eventually quit our high school football team exactly because the football coach had made the players kneel in prayer to Jesus before every game and after every practice. This was a pubic high school in Texas (no surprise I guess). The coach directly tied being a “team player” to participating in prayers specific to a particular deity. This is not an aberration. It is central to the lie that Conservatives have regarding all “freedom of religion” efforts they undergo. They fuel these efforts not to expand religious freedom, they exercise their efforts for their own supremacy.

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A Cranky One  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:25:19pm

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:25:25pm
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No Malarkey!  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:25:29pm

re: #57 Charles Johnson

Sure, he wanted to whack off secretly while in a Zoom meeting with his colleagues. You can’t seriously believe that’s OK.

I approve only of figuratively whacking off during Zoom meetings, because they are mostly deadly dull.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:26:12pm

re: #70 sagehen

He did accidentally leave the camera on. (or so he says)

Yes, but as Charles points out, he was rubbing one out while watching his very-good-looking coworkers meet. It wasn’t just mid-day stress-relief while working from home.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:27:04pm

re: #76 No Malarkey!

I approve only of figuratively whacking off during Zoom meetings, because they are mostly deadly dull.

Teams is where the fun happens.
/Teams meetings are just as dull. It’s the people, not the tech.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:31:39pm

re: #63 William Lewis

Yet another example of why the left needs to arm themselves.

The war is coming, and I fear it will make the Yugoslavian breakup look like a picnic.

I keep hoping we aren’t that far gone, but over the last seven years I keep getting disappointed on that score. Here’s hoping the number of people willing to actually fight a civil war as opposed to cosplaying remains tiny.

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mmmirele  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:32:34pm

re: #78 Crush White Nationalism

Teams is where the fun happens.
/Teams meetings are just as dull. It’s the people, not the tech.

God, I hate Teams. Not just because the software is awful, but because a significant number of users are regulated and can’t USE Teams. So when we have an issue, they can only dial in. Then they whine about not seeing chat. So they want us to copy everything over to their Skype chat. So very, very, very frustrating. First World Problems.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:34:43pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

Scarborough was also instrumental in building up Donald Trump’s support. I don’t think these two things are unrelated, and I do not believe his opinions have changed.

But whatever. I’m apparently out of sync here.

He still proudly calls himself a conservative, but seems to be parroting Mika’s own Manhattan liberalism.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:38:13pm

If they are successful, its likely to be a temporary victory, because there is a referendum in November to amend the Kentucky Constitution to explicitly state there is no right to an abortion.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:38:18pm

re: #80 mmmirele

God, I hate Teams. Not just because the software is awful, but because a significant number of users are regulated and can’t USE Teams. So when we have an issue, they can only dial in. Then they whine about not seeing chat. So they want us to copy everything over to their Skype chat. So very, very, very frustrating. First World Problems.

We can all access Teams, but I miss the spacebar push to talk that Zoom offers.

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lawhawk  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:38:49pm

re: #80 mmmirele

We use teams and don’t encounter that particular problem. It’s better than webex, and has the benefit of being more integrated into the other Office 365 functionality.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:39:18pm

re: #82 No Malarkey!

If they are successful, its likely to be a temporary victory, because there is a referendum in November to amend the Kentucky Constitution to explicitly state there is no right to an abortion.

Mississippi couldn’t pass one of those a few years ago.

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lawhawk  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:39:41pm

re: #81 Barefoot Grin

He still proudly calls himself a conservative, but seems to be parroting Mika’s own Manhattan liberalism.

I don’t think he has a coherent political worldview and will parrot whatever he thinks will drive viewers, regardless of consequences. He has poor character and judgment, so there’s that.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:40:37pm

re: #80 mmmirele

God, I hate Teams. Not just because the software is awful, but because a significant number of users are regulated and can’t USE Teams. So when we have an issue, they can only dial in. Then they whine about not seeing chat. So they want us to copy everything over to their Skype chat. So very, very, very frustrating. First World Problems.

Your IT needs to fix it. We don’t have those issues.

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William Lewis  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:40:49pm

re: #79 No Malarkey!

I keep hoping we aren’t that far gone, but over the last seven years I keep getting disappointed on that score. Here’s hoping the number of people willing to actually fight a civil war as opposed to cosplaying remains tiny.

Got a lot of idiots out there who think that it’ll be a walk in the park like the South did in 1861. Who think only they own guns, and that the Army will go along with them. It’s a comfortable fantasy for many of them and they’ll die as shocked as the kids on both sides at First Bull Run.

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gocart mozart  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:41:23pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:41:42pm

re: #86 lawhawk

I don’t think he has a coherent political worldview and will parrot whatever he thinks will drive viewers, regardless of consequences. He has poor character and judgment, so there’s that.

Yes. A good test for me is whether they fawned over Mike Pence for not helping overthrow the government. Both Mika and Joe failed that test.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:42:24pm

re: #85 Belafon

Mississippi couldn’t pass one of those a few years ago.

It would be a fantastic victory if the Kentucky Constitution were found to protect reproductive rights, and the referendum failed. Social conservatives are very politically powerful here.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:42:56pm

re: #89 gocart mozart

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Dear Lauren, your husband picked you because you didn’t freak out about what he did.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:42:57pm

re: #89 gocart mozart

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Arsenal was chasing Jesus, too, and they got him from Man City! (Sorry, I’m a fan of the soccer team Arsenal)

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gocart mozart  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:44:05pm
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RoJo Must Go!  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:44:08pm

re: #63 William Lewis

Yet another example of why the left needs to arm themselves.

The war is coming, and I fear it will make the Yugoslavian breakup look like a picnic.

re: #79 No Malarkey!

I keep hoping we aren’t that far gone, but over the last seven years I keep getting disappointed on that score. Here’s hoping the number of people willing to actually fight a civil war as opposed to cosplaying remains tiny.

I’m fighting the good fight, protesting, making my voice heard, getting out the vote when and where I can, using what democratic means remain open to us.

But you can be damned sure that if the time comes (and I truly pray that it remains an if) and armed resistance is the only recourse, as old and out-of-shape as I might be, I’ll be out there fighting the bad fight too.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:44:18pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:44:43pm

re: #86 lawhawk

I don’t think he has a coherent political worldview and will parrot whatever he thinks will drive viewers, regardless of consequences. He has poor character and judgment, so there’s that.

Exactly.

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darthstar  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:45:19pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

I do not trust that guy.

He’s just a dude with a web site.

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lawhawk  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:45:27pm

This Court has rendered the subject moot. If you gave a legal analysis and reasoning akin to what the Court dropped in Dobbs or the gun case or the imposition of religion on students by public school teachers, you’d fail. Why go to law school if someone can just impose this nonsense irrespective of the facts, the law, and science.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:46:17pm

re: #84 lawhawk

We use teams and don’t encounter that particular problem. It’s better than webex, and has the benefit of being more integrated into the other Office 365 functionality.

We’re managing our project tasks and our project related documents in Teams, in addition to using it to meet and record some meetings, and it’s working very well. The push to talk is my only issue, and that’s a retraining issue because spacebar is a mute toggle in Teams rather than being push to talk. I’m just hard to retrain after using Zoom for a couple of years.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:48:01pm

re: #98 darthstar

He’s just a dude with a web site.

I know who he is, and I’ve seen him on Twitter for years. That’s why I don’t trust him.

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darthstar  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:48:48pm

re: #80 mmmirele

God, I hate Teams. Not just because the software is awful, but because a significant number of users are regulated and can’t USE Teams. So when we have an issue, they can only dial in. Then they whine about not seeing chat. So they want us to copy everything over to their Skype chat. So very, very, very frustrating. First World Problems.

We have the same issue with teams - consultants and contractors can only see the chat while the meeting is active. After that, they’re out. I’m okay with that - especially the PWC people…don’t care for them much to begin with.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:50:19pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:51:09pm

re: #101 Charles Johnson

I know who he is, and I’ve seen him on Twitter for years. That’s why I don’t trust him.

He’s supposed to be the rational moderate voice of extremist Christianity or something.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:52:37pm
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Belafon  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:52:49pm

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

Means I gotta help pay for ads.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:53:10pm

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

that’s Congressman Brian Fitzpatrick, republican incumbent representing Pennsylvania’s 1st District

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:53:57pm

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

Maybe - finally - people out there are waking up to the fact that the Republican Party and its embrace of white supremacy and theocracy as its raison d’être is an existential threat to the United States of America and they must. be. stopped.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:55:28pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:56:14pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:57:06pm
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EPR-radar  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:57:07pm

re: #105 Crush White Nationalism

Opinion: Roe was very bad for America. The court gives us a chance to reset (CNN, who can go fuck themselves)

That’s a remarkably silly opinion piece. There is no compromise on abortion, so there’s nothing to be gained by the opposing sides ‘talking about it’.

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aatharuv  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:58:19pm

Chevron is selling its current Bay Area headquarters, _and_ paying for at least some employees to relocate to Houston. However, it’s still officially going to be headquartered in California in a smaller campus…

sfgate.com

Now, I need to check if the gas station I fill up at is a Chevron, or if I should find another gas station to go to.

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William Lewis  Jun 27, 2022 • 12:59:55pm

re: #108 Dr Lizardo

Maybe - finally - people out there are waking up to the fact that the Republican Party and its embrace of white supremacy and theocracy as its raison d’être is an existential threat to the United States of America and they must. be. stopped.

The question is how many will remember it in November and will that be enough to get us to +2 Senators and hold, at least, staus quo in the House despite GOP shenanigans?

I have almost no faith in that. Meanwhile the fascists are getting ready for the final countdown.

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JC1  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:00:03pm

re: #82 No Malarkey!

If they are successful, its likely to be a temporary victory, because there is a referendum in November to amend the Kentucky Constitution to explicitly state there is no right to an abortion.

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That referendum might very well fail.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:03:16pm

re: #115 JC1

That referendum might very well fail.

only if we can get the vote out to outnumber the church people

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:03:33pm
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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:03:57pm

re: #22 Dangerman

from downstairs

Looking at what I was replying to might clarify what I was saying. (I didn’t use sarc tags because it seemed pretty obvious to me.)

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jaunte  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:05:40pm
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jaunte  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:05:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:06:21pm
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JC1  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:06:23pm

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

only if we can get the vote out to outnumber the church people

A similar vote failed in Mississippi a few years ago.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:06:35pm

re: #110 Charles Johnson

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:07:40pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

Scarborough was also instrumental in building up Donald Trump’s support. I don’t think these two things are unrelated, and I do not believe his opinions have changed.

But whatever. I’m apparently out of sync here.

Whatever his earliest “relations” with DT might have been, he was also among the first of the never-Trumpers. I recall an op-ed he wrote (but not the date except that it was before the election) about the dangers that he represented.

I’m still not a fan.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:08:37pm

This thread is what we can expect more of going forward:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:08:42pm

re: #122 JC1

A similar vote failed in Mississippi a few years ago.

well, I live here and know pretty well how stupid Kentucky voters can be

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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:10:28pm

I was asked to go on Scarborough’s show once, a few years back. I said no. I do not like this guy AT ALL. To me, he’s one of the worst people on cable news, tied only by Chuck Todd.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:10:33pm

re: #126 Backwoods_Sleuth

well, I live here and know pretty well how stupid Kentucky voters can be

most Kentucky voters can’t be bothered to even take the time to vote

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darthstar  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:11:04pm

So it looks like there will be another hearing tomorrow…I’ll be in office and won’t be able to watch.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:11:26pm

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:13:25pm

re: #129 darthstar

So it looks like there will be another hearing tomorrow…I’ll be in office and won’t be able to watch.

I will watch for you. I think it may be a good one.

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EPR-radar  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:13:30pm

re: #119 jaunte

This SCOTUS majority lied about the facts of this football prayer case in their opinion.

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jaunte  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:14:25pm

re: #132 EPR-radar

I think they’ve thrown out any idea of being respected.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:14:43pm

re: #124 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Whatever his earliest “relations” with DT might have been, he was also among the first of the never-Trumpers. I recall an op-ed he wrote (but not the date except that it was before the election) about the dangers that he represented.

I’m still not a fan.

I doubt that he has any fans here. I only watched today because Sagehen mentioned that Mika was on a tear about our fascism problem. I find both Mika and Joe to be annoying, but they are on the right side at the moment, and I’ll accept that. I wouldn’t accept the same thing from Mike Cernovich, so really it comes down to where each person draws the line on a questionable person’s past actions.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:15:00pm

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just watch as all the clinics close in half the states, doctors and women are arrested, and desperate women start to die. I’m sorry it had to come to this to hopefully wake voters up.

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jaunte  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:15:01pm

“We have the police, we don’t need your respect.”

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EPR-radar  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:15:59pm

re: #133 jaunte

I think they’ve thrown out any idea of being respected.

Right wingers are axiomatically dishonest, and this applies just as much to (R) Supreme Court justices as it does to the lying barbarian Republicans one finds online.

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jaunte  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:19:29pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:19:54pm

re: #137 EPR-radar

Right wingers are axiomatically dishonest, and this applies just as much to (R) Supreme Court justices as it does to the lying barbarian Republicans one finds online.

It’s something they accuse Muslims of, when our Christianists have completely abandoned honesty themselves.

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danarchy  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:21:01pm

re: #119 jaunte

Is there somewhere one can actually see the evidence in this case? Video evidence or testimony of coercion? I’d like to be able to point people to evidence rather than just telling them to take my word for it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:23:49pm
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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:24:16pm

re: #62 danarchy

He was jerking off in the middle of a meeting, whether or not he left the camera on by mistake is irrelevant. He couldn’t, at a minimum, wait till the meeting was over to beat off?

For some reason, I keep thinking about all the profoundly boring meetings I’ve had to attend….

//

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:25:58pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

Funny them chanting “treason” as they comit treason.

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jaunte  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:26:26pm

re: #140 danarchy

This report has some linked details:
kiro7.com

“A judge would later rule that Kennedy “was not engaging in private prayer, but was instead engaging in public speech of an overtly religious nature while performing his job duties. BSD tried to reach an accommodation for Kennedy, but that was spurned by his insisting that he be allowed to pray immediately after the conclusion of each game, likely surrounded by students who felt pressured to join him.”

One parent also said a player felt “compelled to participate” in the postgame prayers because “he felt like he wouldn’t get to play as much if he didn’t,” according to court documents.”

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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:26:36pm

re: #140 danarchy

Is there somewhere one can actually see the evidence in this case? Video evidence or testimony of coercion? I’d like to be able to point people to evidence rather than just telling them to take my word for it.

Sonia Sotomayor’s dissent starts on page 41. She included photos to illustrate how dishonest Gorsuch’s claims are. He straight up lied.

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Mattand  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:28:29pm

re: #127 Charles Johnson

I was asked to go on Scarborough’s show once, a few years back. I said no. I do not like this guy AT ALL. To me, he’s one of the worst people on cable news, tied only by Chuck Todd.

I can’t believe people here are giving you shit for criticizing Joe Fucking Scarborough.

The collective amnesia that’s being displayed about how far he and Mika had their heads up Trump’s ass until Trump turned on them is nuts. Literally on-air talent for “Just the flip side of Fox News” MSNBC tongue bathing this monster.

If Trump hadn’t attacked them, they’d literally be Fort MAGAt inside MSNBC to this day.

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jaunte  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:28:30pm

Christian fundamentalist entitlement:

“…In November 2015, the Bremerton School District Athletic Director recommended Kennedy not be rehired, stating Kennedy failed to follow district policy, demonstrated a lack of cooperation with the administration, contributed to negative relations (between parents, students, community members, coaches, and the district), and failed to supervise student-athletes after games “due to his interactions with media and community.”

It was a recommendation the district never had to follow because Kennedy never reapplied. He said he never had to in his eight years of coaching, claiming he and other coaches were rolled over every year. He also explained his decision further.

“I knew the HR director because I’ve been married to her for 15-16 years now. So I know what a death sentence is when it says ‘do not rehire,’” Kennedy said. “We never reapplied. Why would we have to reapply when we were rolled over for eight years?”

Jeremy Dys, an attorney representing Kennedy in his Supreme Court case, said, “If your annual evaluation says ‘do not rehire’ at the end of it, are you going to reapply to that position?”

In August 2016, Kennedy filed a lawsuit against the Bremerton School district at the federal district court in Tacoma. He argued the district violated his constitutional rights to free speech.”
kiro7.com

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darthstar  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:29:07pm

re: #131 I Would Prefer Not To

I will watch for you. I think it may be a good one.

Straight to live TV - none of this secret hearing crap first.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:31:31pm

I’ve been reminded that the surprise hearing could be about the products of the Jeffrey Clark search and seizure.

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mmmirele  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:32:06pm

re: #84 lawhawk

We use teams and don’t encounter that particular problem. It’s better than webex, and has the benefit of being more integrated into the other Office 365 functionality.

I don’t understand how regulated types can use Skype but are unable to use Teams. It’s a real pain in the rear. Especially when you have some person telling you they need to know everything that is being posted in the Teams chat, but they wouldn’t understand it anyway, because it’s either error messages or SQL searches or things interesting to techs, but not to the line of business.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:32:28pm

re: #148 darthstar

Straight to live TV - none of this secret hearing crap first.

Some of the secret hearing crap is the equivalent of having OJ try on the gloves before you put it on camera.

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CleverToad  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:33:26pm

For a momentary distraction from all the horrific important crap out there, here’s a couple snips from the main topic of Denver headlines this morning

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:34:15pm

re: #149 Crush White Nationalism

I’ve been reminded that the surprise hearing could be about the products of the Jeffrey Clark search and seizure.

In all the hullabaloo, I’d forgotten about that even though it was only a few days ago.

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jaunte  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:34:36pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:36:18pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:36:42pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:37:48pm
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William Lewis  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:41:11pm

Ah…

I Needed This.

Youtube Video

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:45:56pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

That was 100 days of work.

Youtube Video

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:47:43pm

re: #159 Crush White Nationalism

But where’s the toilet?

That little snark aside, that’s impressive to see.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:49:47pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:50:46pm
A full 85 elected prosecutors “collectively representing over 89 million people from 29 states and territories and the District of Columbia, including over 27 million from 12 states where abortion is now banned or likely to be banned” signed onto a new joint statement pledging not to prosecute people for receiving, providing, or helping with an abortion, no matter the recent Supreme Court decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.

That description of how many people are represented by these prosecutors is drawn from a press release put out by Fair and Just Prosecution, whose executive director, Miriam Krinsky, organized the joint statement. The Supreme Court decision at issue means that state officials are now free to restrict abortion according to their wishes, no matter the health consequences for their constituents. Following the release of the decision, the process of imposing harsh, new restrictions on abortion quickly began.

Dozens Of Prosecutors Announce Refusal To Target Abortions (Bipartisan report)

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calochortus  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:52:07pm

Gah. I just spent an hour driving down the post office to pick up a package which I was alleged to have asked to have held there for pick up. (Nope.) Naturally it wasn’t there. If I’m lucky the letter carrier will deliver the package he forgot to deliver on Saturday (and then pushed the wrong button on his tracking thing.) If not, who knows.

In happier news:

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 1:58:41pm
NOEL KING, HOST:

Several states have recently passed restrictive abortion laws. And some of those laws are already being challenged in federal courts, which opponents of abortion rights will tell you is part of a strategy. If a legal challenge to abortion rights makes it to the Supreme Court, then the Supreme Court may consider the status of Roe v. Wade. Evangelical Christian political groups have mobilized around limiting access to abortion. And many of them would like to see this go to the Supreme Court.

But evangelicals were not always so involved in this fight. The latest episode of NPR’s history podcast, Throughline, traces what happened. Rund Abdelfatah co-hosts Throughline. Hi, Rund.

RUND ABDELFATAH, BYLINE: Hi, thanks for having me.

KING: So opposition to abortion has become so associated with evangelical Christians that it seems like that’s the way it was all along.

ABDELFATAH: No. In fact, the Southern Baptist Convention, they actually passed resolutions in 1971, 1974 and 1976 - after Roe v. Wade - affirming the idea that women should have access to abortion for a variety of reasons and that the government should play a limited role in that matter, which surprised us. The experts we talked to said white evangelicals at that time saw abortion as largely a Catholic issue.

KING: So if Roe v. Wade didn’t cause the sea change, what did?

ABDELFATAH: In short, desegregation. Two years before Roe v. Wade, in 1971, there was a Supreme Court case that began to pull white evangelicals into politics. Me and my co-host, Ramtin Arablouei, dove into the story of that case, known as Green v. Connally.

text.npr.org

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danarchy  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:01:34pm

re: #163 calochortus

Gah. I just spent an hour driving down the post office to pick up a package which I was alleged to have asked to have held there for pick up. (Nope.) Naturally it wasn’t there. If I’m lucky the letter carrier will deliver the package he forgot to deliver on Saturday (and then pushed the wrong button on his tracking thing.) If not, who knows.

In happier news:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:03:20pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:03:43pm

Seeing that guy talk about how Roe v. Wade was bad for women reminds me that the Freakonomics guys made a fairly convincing case for strong correlation between the banning of lead in gas and other products and Roe as reasons for why the crime wave went down in the 1990s.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:03:57pm

re: #162 Crush White Nationalism

A full 85 elected prosecutors “collectively representing over 89 million people from 29 states and territories and the District of Columbia, including over 27 million from 12 states where abortion is now banned or likely to be banned” signed onto a new joint statement pledging not to prosecute people for receiving, providing, or helping with an abortion, no matter the recent Supreme Court decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.

INSUЯREKSHUИ!!!

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calochortus  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:05:17pm

re: #164 Crush White Nationalism

I believe it was Paul Weyrich casting about for a cause to get conservatives riled up once you really couldn’t campaign openly on segregation.

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calochortus  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:05:52pm

re: #167 Barefoot Grin

Seeing that guy talk about how Roe v. Wade was bad for women reminds me that the Freakonomics guys made a fairly convincing case for strong correlation between the banning of lead in gas and other products and Roe as reasons for why the crime wave went down in the 1990s.

Yeah, I was thinking we were going to be running an uncontrolled social experiment here.

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sagehen  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:08:37pm

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I hope LA mayoral voters are paying attention.

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William Lewis  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:09:03pm

More reasons we need to keep voting blue, especially in states like Wisconsin:

Gov. Tony Evers said he would offer clemency to doctors who are prosecuted for performing abortions in Wisconsin. The statement came during an abortion rights rally at the Wisconsin Democratic Party convention Saturday in which the first-term governor told attendees to hold the line this fall against Republicans “running a scorched earth campaign to divide our state.”

Evers offered the keynote speech during the first in-person state Democratic convention since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic. He immediately pivoted to Friday’s U.S. Supreme Court ruling striking down the landmark abortion rights case Roe v. Wade. Evers called it a step backward for America, allowing politicians to meddle in personal decisions about reproductive health.

“These decisions should be made between a woman and her doctor, family, and faith,” Evers said during his speech. “Now, these decisions are being dictated by partisan politicians.”

The convention was paused earlier Saturday for an impromptu abortion rights rally in which Evers became emotional as he described the impact of the high court’s ruling on his seven granddaughters.

“Yesterday they were made second-class citizens,” said Evers. “That’s bulls—-!”

A tweet from the rally posted by state Rep. Lee Snodgrass, D-Appleton, said Evers went on to tell the crowd at the rally that he would grant clemency to anyone charged and convicted of crimes for performing an abortion in Wisconsin.

Evers offers clemency for doctors prosecuted for performing abortions in Wisconsin

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:13:50pm

I said before that a podcast of women lawyers discussing Dobbs decision (it was one of the Crooked Media pods) called the Alito court the YOLO court (and also the Yolito court). Less elegantly, I’d just call it the “ends-justify-the-means” court.

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sagehen  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:15:33pm

re: #167 Barefoot Grin

Seeing that guy talk about how Roe v. Wade was bad for women reminds me that the Freakonomics guys made a fairly convincing case for strong correlation between the banning of lead in gas and other products and Roe as reasons for why the crime wave went down in the 1990s.

The Roe v Wade hypothesis is correlation, not necessarily causation.

But the removing lead from gasoline hypothesis has all kinds of scientific evidence (like what lead does to the impulse control portion of the brain), and their “let’s look at correlation” section included 40 other countries; some had good economic growth in that timespan, some didn’t. Some had more aggressive policing, some didn’t. And yet ALL of them showed a 17 year lag time between removing lead from gas, and violent crime rates beginning to drop (because the lead was getting into babies and toddlers, and violent crime is really a late teens/early 20’s thing).

motherjones.com
ksj.mit.edu

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Captain Ron  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:16:11pm
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retired cynic  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:22:31pm

wrrap.org
Women’s Reproductive Rights Assistance Project

This is an umbrella fund that Judd Legum recommended for donations.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:24:26pm

re: #162 Crush White Nationalism

Dozens Of Prosecutors Announce Refusal To Target Abortions (Bipartisan report)

Red states will create a state police division of abortion law enforcement, and authorize the State AG to prosecute abortion crimes.

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sagehen  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:27:42pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:29:14pm

Trumpsters are the kind of people who scream bloody murder at referees and umpires at their kids’ sporting events and tell others about how their kids’ were robbed and then actually assault the parents of the other team.

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:30:43pm

re: #177 No Malarkey!

Red states will create a state police division of abortion law enforcement, and authorize the State AG to prosecute abortion crimes.

Gee.. this doesn’t sound familiar at all.

amnesty.org

Funny how the demographic most eager to cast everything evil as associated with Muslims are now the most eager to emulate them.

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darthstar  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:31:59pm

So rumor on the twitterverse is that Ali Alexander may be a surprise witness tomorrow. Sounds like he read the tea leaves and knows he’s dead if he goes to prison so he’s giving up anybody and everybody.

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darthstar  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:32:30pm

re: #175 Captain Ron

Truth Social is going to go under before Russia does.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:34:45pm
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darthstar  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:36:02pm

re: #172 William Lewis

More reasons we need to keep voting blue, especially in states like Wisconsin:

Evers offers clemency for doctors prosecuted for performing abortions in Wisconsin

Republicans running for election have to be getting a serious case of butt-pucker these days with the wave of collective anger being aimed at them from all corners of their communities.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:38:25pm
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Jay C  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:39:26pm

re: #184 darthstar

Republicans running for election have to be getting a serious case of butt-pucker these days with the wave of collective anger being aimed at them from all corners of their communities.

Yeah, but there are just nearly four months til Election Day: Republicans will be spending that time desperately/frantically trying to dredge up some sort of distraction or deflection : and hope at least SOME of the outrage dissipates….

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No Malarkey!  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:40:00pm

re: #184 darthstar

Republicans running for election have to be getting a serious case of butt-pucker these days with the wave of collective anger being aimed at them from all corners of their communities.

It occurs to me that the abortion issue is going to be a serious obstacle to a GOP presidential candidate in 2024. To get the nomination, they will have to promise to work to make abortion illegal nationally, which will be a major turnoff to swing voters in blue and purple states.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:41:05pm

re: #186 Jay C

Yeah, but there are just nearly four months til Election Day: Republicans will be spending that time desperately/frantically trying to dredge up some sort of distraction or deflection : and hope at least SOME of the outrage dissipates….

I can’t see that happening, because the worst is yet to come.

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William Lewis  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:43:47pm

re: #184 darthstar

Republicans running for election have to be getting a serious case of butt-pucker these days with the wave of collective anger being aimed at them from all corners of their communities.

He’s been mellow - almost meek - as governor with the GOP in total control of the legislature accomplishing what he can. He was the Superintendent of Public Instruction before this. To have him cursing out loud is an indication of the across-the-board anger.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:45:33pm

Abortion providers better sell their vacation and investment property in red states, and they better be careful about where they travel if they don’t want to end up in prison.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:46:47pm

re: #190 No Malarkey!

It’s going to be, in technical terms, a huge fucking mess.

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jaunte  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:47:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:48:04pm

re: #186 Jay C

Yeah, but there are just nearly four months til Election Day: Republicans will be spending that time desperately/frantically trying to dredge up some sort of distraction or deflection : and hope at least SOME of the outrage dissipates….

I dunno about other women who have just been told they are now second class citizens, but I’m pretty sure it will take me quite a bit longer than four months for my outrage to dissipate.

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jaunte  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:48:22pm
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sagehen  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:50:37pm

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

I dunno other women who have just been told they are now second class citizens, but I’m pretty sure it will take me quite a bit longer than four months for my outrage to dissipate.

Gas prices (the oil companies will elevate their price-gouging to support R candidates). Also, inflation (which, y’know, rent increases are a big part of that).

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retired cynic  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:53:52pm

Email from AOC, with her plans going forward:

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:54:34pm

re: #177 No Malarkey!

Red states will create a state police division of abortion law enforcement, and authorize the State AG to prosecute abortion crimes.

Republican AGs were part of the coup attempt, and are criminals, so I expect the worst from them.

Republican AGs Cannot Shake Ties to Violent Trump Coup Attempt (Truthout)

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mmmirele  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:57:52pm

re: #125 The Pie Overlord!

This thread is what we can expect more of going forward:

Even Christians who are not observant or who aren’t the right kind of observant will be affected. I still remember being 7 years old, first day in 2nd grade at a new school, and I started eating my sack lunch at my desk because it was a rainy day. My teacher, Mrs. Gaede, said to me, “Deana, we are not pigs. We pray before we eat.” I was a weird kid and already had issues with school and this did not help. It’s hard not to be angry 50+ years later.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:57:55pm

re: #190 No Malarkey!

Abortion providers better sell their vacation and investment property in red states, and they better be careful about where they travel if they don’t want to end up in prison.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2022 • 2:58:09pm
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BlueSpotinAL  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:00:12pm
Science says it is 1) alive 2) human 3) distinct from the cells of the mother having its own DNA. In other words, a distinct human life.

It is totally dishonest to combine the words human + life, which when together have a specific subset of the meanings that are generally agreed upon to be a person. Such is what they have to resort to, when they don’t have an actual moral argument.

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RoJo Must Go!  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:00:20pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:01:15pm

good grief

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:02:57pm

re: #185 Barefoot Grin

[Embedded content]

… or maybe not. After the Glorious Revolution (1688, I think), Catholics weren’t allowed to hold public office in the colonies, so there weren’t many among the Founding Fathers, but there were a few.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:03:04pm

re: #142 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

For some reason, I keep thinking about all the profoundly boring meetings I’ve had to attend….

//

What I did was put myself on mute and fall asleep during those meetings; this was pre-zoom and no cameras. Might have been in trouble if they were aware of what I was doing.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:04:54pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

Scarborough was also instrumental in building up Donald Trump’s support. I don’t think these two things are unrelated, and I do not believe his opinions have changed.

But whatever. I’m apparently out of sync here.

And THAT’S why I’ll never give Joe or Mika a pass.

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sagehen  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:05:29pm

re: #204 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

… or maybe not. After the Glorious Revolution (1688, I think), Catholics weren’t allowed to hold public office in the colonies, so there weren’t many among the Founding Fathers, but there were a few.

They didn’t much like Baptists, either. The powers that be in the late 1700’s was mostly Anglicans. Or Deists (they believe in a God-the-Creator, but think he stopped meddling in human affairs a few thousand years ago).

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mmmirele  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:08:18pm

re: #191 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s going to be, in technical terms, a huge fucking mess.

It might be worth reading up on what a huge flustercuck the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850, Bleeding Kansas and the fallout from Dred Scott v Sanford turned out to be. All of that and more, we’re not in for good times.

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jaunte  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:10:01pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:10:47pm
Cryptocurrency funds posted net outflows of $423 million last week, eclipsing the prior record of $198 million set as crypto markets tumbled in January and bringing total assets down to $36.2 billion, according to a Monday report by CoinShares.

Cash transferred out of bitcoin funds drove the record activity, with net outflows of $453 million—virtually erasing all inflows this year and pushing assets in such funds down to $24.5 billion, the lowest level since the beginning of last year, CoinShares reported.

Crypto Funds Post Record $423 Million Outflows As Bitcoin Plunge Rattles Market (Forbes)

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:10:59pm

re: #205 Hecuba’s daughter

What I did was put myself on mute and fall asleep during those meetings; this was pre-zoom and no cameras. Might have been in trouble if they were aware of what I was doing.

All our meetings were in person, so that wasn’t an option. Pity.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:12:40pm

re: #207 sagehen

They didn’t much like Baptists, either. The powers that be in the late 1700’s was mostly Anglicans. Or Deists (they believe in a God-the-Creator, but think he stopped meddling in human affairs a few thousand years ago).

Yeah, I think I’m going to take the first amendment as representing the majority opinion.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:13:40pm

re: #211 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

All our meetings were in person, so that wasn’t an option. Pity.

We had a guy who would sleep in in-person meetings. He quit when we asked him to use Power BI, but wouldn’t have been let go for the sleeping as long as his work was good.

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RoJo Must Go!  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:16:13pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:18:22pm

re: #214 RoJo Must Go!

She is speaking the truth. Now all we have to do is listen and get it done.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:18:41pm

re: #70 sagehen

He did accidentally leave the camera on. (or so he says)

Accidentally or not, who masturbates during a meeting??

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:19:37pm

re: #215 PhillyPretzel

She is speaking the truth. Now all we have to do is listen and get it done.

They set their name to “Cassandra.” They know that no one will listen.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:20:38pm

re: #216 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Accidentally or not, who masturbates during a meeting??

Literalists. We called ours “circle jerks”.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:22:21pm

re: #217 Crush White Nationalism

I know. That is why I typed what I did.

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retired cynic  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:23:07pm

With violent rhetoric and election denial, podcaster becomes GOP force
Joe Oltmann has built a sprawling political network in Colorado marked by false 2020 claims and suggestions that opponents be hanged
wapo.st

This is a gift link, because I found this article both alarming and important. I am HOPING Colorado kicks this jerk in the rear.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:23:29pm

re: #216 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Accidentally or not, who masturbates during a meeting??

I don’t think I could get it up while hearing the voices of my coworkers. I’m just not that kinky.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:25:18pm
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Decatur Deb  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:26:59pm

In a letter over Trump’s facsimile signature, the RNC expresses it’s confidence that I am “One of our Party’s (sic) and my top supporters..” They want my input on the Republican direction for the coming election.

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BeachDem  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:27:06pm

re: #217 Crush White Nationalism

They set their name to “Cassandra.” They know that no one will listen.

Well, it’s Chris Kluwe’s account, so I would bet some people are listening.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:28:25pm

re: #224 BeachDem

I hope so.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:28:50pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:29:08pm

Topic adjacent and he’s a pariah now for good reason, but the first 15 seconds or so still makes me laugh:

Youtube Video

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:30:25pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

that’s Congressman Brian Fitzpatrick, republican incumbent representing Pennsylvania’s 1st District

Isn’t it amazing what you have to do to find out if they’re a fucking republican?

Checks Twitter bio ❌
Checks their website ❌
Google their name ✅

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EPR-radar  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:30:46pm

re: #223 Decatur Deb

In a letter over Trump’s facsimile signature, the RNC expresses it’s confidence that I am “One of our Party’s (sic) and my top supporters..” They want my input on the Republican direction for the coming election.

I wish I’d get letters like that, since replying could be so much fun. E.g., “For the upcoming election, I think the GOP strategy should be for all its candidates to disappear up their own assholes, preferably on live TV.”

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jaunte  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:31:32pm
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Decatur Deb  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:32:12pm

re: #229 EPR-radar

I wish I’d get letters like that, since replying could be so much fun. E.g., “For the upcoming election, I think the GOP strategy should be for all its candidates to disappear up their own assholes, preferably on live TV.”

Join in! Ya’ just gotta be old, white, and have an Alabama zipcode.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:32:28pm

re: #228 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Or look them up on Wiki:
en.wikipedia.org

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jaunte  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:32:49pm
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Decatur Deb  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:35:29pm

re: #233 jaunte

All true (some places), but it’s more about malpractice insurance than gender politics. To test this, ask a sample of female gynecologists.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:36:51pm

re: #234 Decatur Deb

All true (some places), but it’s more about malpractice insurance than gender politics. To test this, ask a sample of female gynecologists.

I had to write a letter expressing my desire to get a vasectomy because of that fear, but what she experienced is worse.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:37:50pm

re: #217 Crush White Nationalism

They set their name to “Cassandra.” They know that no one will listen.

Yep. That’s me too.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:39:44pm

re: #217 Crush White Nationalism

They set their name to “Cassandra.” They know that no one will listen.

Did someone call me?

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:39:44pm

re: #214 RoJo Must Go!

None of the Republicans then.

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retired cynic  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:39:51pm

we knew it was coming

Grocery store worker arrested after Rudy Giuliani was slapped on back
Former New York mayor claimed the alleged assault was ‘political’ following the Supreme Court’s decision on abortion rights
washingtonpost.com

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Decatur Deb  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:40:14pm

re: #236 Hecuba’s daughter

Yep. That’s me too.

Last guys that agreed with you got squished by sneks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:40:34pm

thread

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William Lewis  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:41:58pm

re: #204 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

… or maybe not. After the Glorious Revolution (1688, I think), Catholics weren’t allowed to hold public office in the colonies, so there weren’t many among the Founding Fathers, but there were a few.

Far earlier. They first lost the right to be hold office under Elizabeth the First. To hold office, you had to swear that you accepted her as the head of the Church in England and only the Book of Common Prayer could be used for services (officially. It’s amazing how much high church/popery you can sneak in under the Rubrics of 1559 version as Elizabeth herself did ;) both of which were deal breakers for those unwilling to sully their catholic beliefs with even the fairly mild Protestantism such as England’s.

Now after the various turmoil’s of the 1600s, things got far stricter and both Roman Priests and Puritans found themselves unhappy with the Church of England over the course of the century.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:42:04pm
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jaunte  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:42:48pm

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jared truly believes his children are his property to direct and arrange as he sees fit.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:42:54pm

re: #243 Crush White Nationalism

I got ping from WaPo about that.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:45:37pm

re: #242 William Lewis

And that leads up to why Maryland was founded.
en.wikipedia.org

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:45:58pm

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

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jaunte  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:46:44pm
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William Lewis  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:47:34pm

re: #246 PhillyPretzel

And that leads up to why Maryland was founded.
en.wikipedia.org

I was thinking I should have mentioned that.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:48:48pm

re: #108 Dr Lizardo

Maybe - finally - people out there are waking up to the fact that the Republican Party and its embrace of white supremacy and theocracy as its raison d’être is an existential threat to the United States of America and they must. be. stopped.

Yeah, sure. And people residing in hell would like some ice water too. Sadly, I am of the opinion that way to many Americans have become so disinterested in anything that doesn’t directly effect them NOW, that they find it easier to just ignore it as “someone else’s” problem and nothing to be concerned about.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:49:15pm

re: #203 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

Constitution, Article VI specifies that “no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”

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BlueSpotinAL  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:51:17pm

re: #223 Decatur Deb

In a letter over Trump’s facsimile signature, the RNC expresses it’s confidence that I am “One of our Party’s (sic) and my top supporters..” They want my input on the Republican direction for the coming election.

Oh, they want directions?

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William Lewis  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:52:15pm

re: #251 Eventual Carrion

Constitution, Article VI specifies that “no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”

They ignore every other part of the constitution that bothers them, SCOTUS will happily allow tests of your evangelical shibboleths.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 27, 2022 • 3:55:14pm

re: #223 Decatur Deb

In a letter over Trump’s facsimile signature, the RNC expresses it’s confidence that I am “One of our Party’s (sic) and my top supporters..” They want my input on the Republican direction for the coming election.

“To hell” might be a good answer.

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John Hughes  Jun 27, 2022 • 4:10:41pm

re: #76 No Malarkey!

I approve only of figuratively whacking off during Zoom meetings, because they are mostly deadly dull.

Teams meetings are worse.

And Google meet is hell.

(Google and Google suppliers insist on using Google meet. It does not work).

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John Hughes  Jun 27, 2022 • 4:13:17pm

re: #84 lawhawk

We use teams and don’t encounter that particular problem. It’s better than webex, and has the benefit of being more integrated into the other Office 365 functionality.

Yeah, the office 365 integration is great. Especially if you don’t use office 365.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 27, 2022 • 4:21:05pm

re: #239 retired cynic

we knew it was coming

Grocery store worker arrested after Rudy Giuliani was slapped on back
Former New York mayor claimed the alleged assault was ‘political’ following the Supreme Court’s decision on abortion rights
washingtonpost.com

No, he called you a scumbag. People have known that about you for YEARS.

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John Hughes  Jun 27, 2022 • 4:34:10pm

re: #180 Florida Panhandler

Funny how the demographic most eager to cast everything evil as associated with Muslims are now the most eager to emulate them.

emulate Muslims?

By allowing legal abortion?

Stop blaming Christian obsessions on non christians.


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