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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2022 • 1:34:46pm

I had never tuned in a Trump speech before, but I was watching his speech on Jan. 6th.

Still can’t believe that he really meant it when he said “I’ll be with you!” to the (armed) crowds that day. I thought he was just doing his usual “tell-them-what-they-need-to-hear-so-they-will-do-my-bidding” routine.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 28, 2022 • 1:36:46pm

re: #1 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I can’t believe that he really meant it when he said “I’ll be with you!” to the (armed) crowds that day. I thought he was just doing his usual tell-them-what-they-need-to-hear routine.

I didn’t believe it, either, but after today’s hearing I think it’s pretty indisputable. He wanted to pose in front of his MAGA cult as an avenging angel.

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jaunte  Jun 28, 2022 • 1:38:08pm

re: #1 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I thought the same. Luckily he still hadn’t grasped that the Secret Service was there to protect the institution of the presidency, not be his personal, biddable palace guard.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2022 • 1:39:48pm

re: #3 jaunte

I thought the same. Luckily he still hadn’t grasped that the Secret Service was there to protect the institution of the presidency, not be his personal, biddable palace guard.

I think they also had a sense of what they were protecting beyond the person of the President.

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darthstar  Jun 28, 2022 • 1:40:29pm
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jaunte  Jun 28, 2022 • 1:41:03pm
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Dangerman  Jun 28, 2022 • 1:41:11pm

re: #3 jaunte

I thought the same. Luckily he still hadn’t grasped that the Secret Service was there to protect the institution of the presidency, not be his personal, biddable palace guard.

like he saw the doj, AG, white house council, etc

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2022 • 1:45:56pm

re: #7 Dangerman

like he saw the doj, AG, white house council, etc

Anyone in government who did not immediately and unquestioningly do his bidding was summarily labeled “Deep State”.

Just like any girl I want but who won’t sleep with me is a “slut”.

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sagehen  Jun 28, 2022 • 1:50:16pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

I didn’t believe it, either, but after today’s hearing I think it’s pretty indisputable. He wanted to pose in front of his MAGA cult as an avenging angel.

Plus, the capitol police might have stood down and not defended against a crowd that had the president and his secret service at their front…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2022 • 1:52:42pm

new smax is also not going into details about the hearings, but for that:

“Conservative Groups Urge House GOP Leaders on Heartbeat Law”

which would ban abortions nationwide after six weeks.

I am expecting them to pass a “life begins at conception” bill that would ban all abortions at any point.

This is what you are voting for if you vote GOP

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A Cranky One  Jun 28, 2022 • 1:53:22pm

I’d still like to know why, with a riot close by, the WH wasn’t locked down and security massively increased.

After all, if the agitators were supposedly antifa and BLM as the WH has claimed, wouldn’t the WH be a target?

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jaunte  Jun 28, 2022 • 1:55:20pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 28, 2022 • 1:56:58pm
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darthstar  Jun 28, 2022 • 1:58:11pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

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darthstar  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:00:58pm

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jaunte  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:01:58pm

re: #15 darthstar

One of the Christian players will just shoot him.

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darthstar  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:02:49pm

re: #16 jaunte

One of the Christian players will just shoot him.

Also allowed by SCOTUS.

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darthstar  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:04:09pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:05:26pm

I actually have liberals coming at me on Twitter now defending Mick Mulvaney. JFC.

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jaunte  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:06:03pm
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jaunte  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:07:54pm

Unindicted co-conspirator Mick Mulvaney.

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Teukka  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:09:10pm

re: #14 darthstar

Ben who? *runs for cover*

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jaunte  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:10:30pm

Denver Riggleman, a J6 CMTE investigator:

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Dangerman  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:10:37pm

re: #20 jaunte

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the entire republican party did - sans just a few

they all knew
WE all knew

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:10:42pm

re: #18 darthstar

This comment on RIA says - “anyone still wants a holiday in Turkey?”

They still have Egypt

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Charles Johnson  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:11:08pm
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jaunte  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:12:28pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:15:22pm
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Jay C  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:25:03pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

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I realize that signatures are basically stylized glyphs not necessarily related to actual letter forms, but I wonder if some future documentarian will find this scribble on a shred, and assume it was signed by someone named “Ahmnh Mammnyl”.

And be mystified as to why it was pronounced “Donald Trump”.

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darthstar  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:29:19pm

Yay France! More big guns on the way to Ukraine.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:29:27pm
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A Three Hour Tour  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:30:32pm

re: #29 Jay C

I realize that signatures are basically stylized glyphs not necessarily related to actual letter forms, but I wonder if some future documentarian will find it on a shred, and assume it was signed by some named ” Ahmnh Mammnyl”.

And be mystified as to why ir was pronounce “Donald Trump”.

Donald Trump’s illegible signature has always reminded me of a four or five year old trying to emulate grown-up cursive writing - it’s just nonsensical scribbling.

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Dangerman  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:33:23pm

re: #27 jaunte

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well they werent clear on this point and i want more details

was it in fact ketchup or catsup?

it damn well does make a difference:

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Teddy's Person  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:35:18pm

My entry into the “We Will Adopt Your Baby” meme below the fold

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Dangerman  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:36:37pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:37:51pm
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darthstar  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:39:34pm
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No Malarkey!  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:41:42pm

SCOTUS continues to gut voting rights.

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Dangerman  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:42:39pm

NYMAG: “The January 6 hearings have two basic functions. The first is to reveal, to the degree it is possible, as much as can be uncovered about Donald Trump’s efforts to negate the 2020 election result and remain in office. The second is to expose the allies who are, in one way or another, complicit in his crime. On both counts, the committee is delivering…”

“At this point, even with the hearings in progress, it seems safe to rate this as the greatest political scandal in American history. This is true when measured by its depth (the lengths the perpetrators were willing to go extended to the violent overthrow of the U.S. government) as well as its breadth (the guilty parties included elected officials, lawyers, foot soldiers, and, of course, the president of the United States).”

“It is all the more striking, then, that the Republican Party stance was, and is, that none of this should be investigated.”

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Dangerman  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:43:19pm
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EPR-radar  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:45:25pm

re: #39 Dangerman

The vast majority of Republicans are traitors. Therefore, the generic GOP position regarding Trump’s treason on 1/6 is to approve of it.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:45:41pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

I didn’t believe it, either, but after today’s hearing I think it’s pretty indisputable. He wanted to pose in front of his MAGA cult as an avenging angel.

Holding Pence’s head like Perseus and Medusa in front of the kraken.

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Dangerman  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:46:16pm

re: #40 Dangerman

while i agree with this - after all i just posted it

there’s a perverse pleasure in inextricably tying TFG to the 2022 roberts court

it shows it to be all the more clownish and highlights its utter lack of anything approaching legitimacy

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EPR-radar  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:49:05pm

re: #43 Dangerman

while i agree with this - after all i just posted it

there’s a perverse pleasure in inextricably tying TFG to the 2022 roberts court

it shows it to be all the more clownish and highlights its utter lack of anything approaching legitimacy

The funny thing is that Trump’s court picks were as generic GOP as it gets — Trump didn’t give a shit about judges, except to the extent he could pretend they would be personally loyal to him. So he just worked his way down the judge lists his handlers gave to him.

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Dangerman  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:49:05pm

re: #39 Dangerman

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:50:04pm

re: #45 Dangerman

And all on years ending in 1.

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EPR-radar  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:50:20pm

re: #45 Dangerman

That reminds me that one of my favorite ways to wind up wingnuts is to say that 1/6 was a worse attack on US democracy than 9/11. It’s very effective.

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Dangerman  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:54:33pm
“After Tuesday’s bombshell hearing investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection, U.S. Capitol Police Sgt. Aquilino Gonell said he holds former President Donald Trump personally responsible for the injuries he sustained defending the Capitol,” the HuffPost reports.

Said Gonell: “Our own president set us up. I just feel betrayed. The president should be doing everything possible to help us and he didn’t do it. He wanted to lead the mob and wanted to lead the crowd himself … he wanted to be a tyrant.”

the prelude (CNN 3/26/21):

“It was zero threat, right from the start, it was zero threat. Look, they went in, they shouldn’t have done it. Some of them went in, and they are hugging and kissing the police and the guards, you know, they had great relationships,” ~ Trump in phone call to Laura Ingraham …….

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Charles Johnson  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:54:40pm
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Dangerman  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:54:58pm

re: #46 Eclectic Cyborg

And all on years ending in 1.

maybe we should stop having those //

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:56:04pm

re: #38 No Malarkey!

So much for state’s rights.

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Dangerman  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:56:12pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

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while the secret service sat off to the side weeping at what a great man they had the privilege to protect

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Dangerman  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:57:50pm

headlines: I’m not gonna link each one

“Trump Sought to Join January 6 Mob: Enraged, He Lunged for Limo Wheel”

— New York Times

“Trump Lunged at Security Chief on January 6”

— USA Today

“Former White House Aide Delivers Shocking Testimony About Out-of-Control Trump on January 6”

— Politico

“Trump Flew Into Rage on January 6 and Lunged at Secret Service Agent”

— Los Angeles Times

“Trump Wanted Crowd to March to Capitol Despite Weapons”

— Washington Post

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:57:51pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

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He wanted his Mussolini moment.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 28, 2022 • 2:59:01pm

…after grabbing the wheel and driving himself there.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:00:46pm

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jaunte  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:01:03pm
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Dr. Matt  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:03:05pm

re: #55 Eclectic Cyborg

…after grabbing the wheel and driving himself there.

Does Dotard even know how to drive something that isn’t a golf cart?

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jaunte  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:04:00pm
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darthstar  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:04:14pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:04:20pm

re: #58 Dr. Matt

Does Dotard even know how to drive something that isn’t a golf cart?

just grab the wheel and go “vroom vroom!”

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Dr. Matt  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:05:51pm

re: #60 darthstar

Getting roasted by a large body of water. Ouch.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:06:27pm
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darthstar  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:08:58pm

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jordan hasn’t even passed the bar exam.

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Captain Ron  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:09:16pm
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Dr. Matt  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:10:55pm

re: #65 Captain Ron

But, but, but hurt fee fees is a capital crime to the infinite degree!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:11:11pm
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jaunte  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:14:46pm
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Teukka  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:16:29pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:16:32pm
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jaunte  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:17:46pm
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Teukka  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:18:22pm

re: #5 darthstar

Is it just me, or does it look like the dude has a mask on?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:19:16pm
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darthstar  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:19:39pm

Since her name is Cassidy

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:20:35pm
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jaunte  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:22:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:22:18pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:24:11pm

re: #58 Dr. Matt

Does Dotard even know how to drive something that isn’t a golf cart?

Evidence points to no.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:27:08pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:34:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:35:24pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:39:00pm

Can anyone, and I mean anyone with a functioning eyeballs, see trump being able to lunge at anyone? I’m having a hard time seeing him grabbing the steering wheel unless he was in the passenger seat… But lunging for someone’s throat? I just cannot see it. Hearsay based on hyperbole.

Still, I hope that fucker goed to prison.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:39:12pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

I hate to say this but they’ll probably have to leave red states for blue ones. Otherwise, she’s right. She will be one of the first people to be thrown under the jail by blood thirsty Republicans.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:39:48pm

re: #82 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Same here.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:39:56pm
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jaunte  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:41:31pm
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No Malarkey!  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:42:04pm

Sitting down to watch today’s testimony now.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:43:03pm
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sagehen  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:48:50pm
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jaunte  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:52:43pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:53:12pm
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jaunte  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:53:18pm

Imagine how many witness tampering messages they have by now.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:56:20pm

re: #91 Patricia Kayden

Unfortunately assholes like them seem to live forever.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:57:13pm

re: #92 jaunte

Imagine how many witness tampering messages they have by now.

All of them, Katie.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:58:35pm

Are we ready to have the conversation about a criminal insurrectionist president appointing 3 Supreme Court justices….

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:58:42pm

re: #93 GlutenFreeJesus

Unfortunately assholes like them seem to live forever.

We also have to hope that when they pass on, Democrats control the Senate. Republicans will not allow a Democratic President to place anyone on SCOTUS if they regain power in the Senate.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 28, 2022 • 3:59:44pm

re: #95 GlutenFreeJesus

We will be having that discussion with ourselves. Republicans are very happy with the outcome of Trump’s appointments. They’re thirsting for more decisions putting minorities, LGBTs and women back in their rightful places.

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jaunte  Jun 28, 2022 • 4:02:40pm
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No Malarkey!  Jun 28, 2022 • 4:06:34pm

re: #98 jaunte

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jun 28, 2022 • 4:08:15pm

Good article from Sargent.

I bet they have planning info from the Willard Hotel meetings/Guiliani/Stone.

Violent overthrow was planned.

What’s still unclear is whether Trump saw the use of the mob to pressure his vice president, Mike Pence, as part of the plan all along in the days leading up to Jan. 6, 2021, or whether he came to see the violence as a weapon in real time, as it developed.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 28, 2022 • 4:08:33pm

re: #99 No Malarkey!

While I agree with you, her point, actually both their points, remain. None of these people are good people. None of them. Not one.

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austin_blue  Jun 28, 2022 • 4:09:19pm

So, been out of the house since just before Lunch. Anything happen this afternoon?

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Captain Ron  Jun 28, 2022 • 4:12:49pm

LOL

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 28, 2022 • 4:13:21pm

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 28, 2022 • 4:14:51pm

re: #104 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

That is an accurate account of what happened.

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BeachDem  Jun 28, 2022 • 4:16:01pm

re: #101 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

While I agree with you, her point, actually both their points, remain. None of these people are good people. None of them. Not one.

I’ll still give her credit for being brave enough to testify, knowing Trumpland will try to destroy her. She could have gone the Hope Hicks route during the Mueller investigation.

Former White House communications director and Trump campaign aide Hope Hicks appeared before the House on Wednesday—and, true to the White House’s pattern of stonewalling Democrats, lawmakers weren’t able to get much out of her. According to a transcript released Thursday of Hicks’s testimony, White House lawyers blocked Hicks from answering questions 155 times during her interview, claiming that they were invoking “absolute immunity” that prevented Hicks from “stat[ing] anything about her knowledge of anything during the period of time in which she was employed in the White House.”

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A Three Hour Tour  Jun 28, 2022 • 4:22:13pm

re: #82 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Can anyone, and I mean anyone with a functioning eyeballs, see trump being able to lunge at anyone? I’m having a hard time seeing him grabbing the steering wheel unless he was in the passenger seat… But lunging for someone’s throat? I just cannot see it. Hearsay based on hyperbole.

Still, I hope that fucker goed to prison.

Yes, I can very well see someone with as poor impulse control as Trump has lungeing at someone if he’s riding high on adrenaline, rage, and a sense of invincibility.

He’s a bully and needs to dominate, and will get physical if his desires are sufficiently frustrated.

ETA: Man, it looks like I’m A Dead Thread Hero again.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jun 28, 2022 • 4:42:21pm

re: #104 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

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re: #105 PhillyPretzel

That is an accurate account of what happened.

Roberts did not vote to overturn Roe


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