Esperanza Spalding: Tiny Desk (Home) Concert

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The Tiny Desk is working from home for the foreseeable future. Introducing NPR Music’s Tiny Desk (home) concerts, bringing you performances from across the country and the world. It’s the same spirit — stripped-down sets, an intimate setting — just a different space.

Suraya Mohamed | January 7, 2022
Enter into esperanza spalding’s safe space for healing through music and song with a Tiny Desk (home) concert of selections from her Songwrights Apothecary Lab, (S.A.L.) project. A constant iteration of evolutionary ideas, her songwriting workshop is both a bold examination of human existence and resilience and a guided research collaboration with a collective of musicians and researchers in the practices of neuroscience, psychology and music therapy.

“All Formwelas (songs) from the S.A.L. are created through our research, divination, intuition, musicianship, taste, inspiration, and collaborative effort to design songs that enhance a specific salutary affect,” spalding writes on her project site, along with brief descriptions for each of the three Formwelas performed here.

“Formwela 3”:”a re-membering with the sun’s vast and perpetual blessing as evidenced by one’s own aliveness and capacity for creating within self and community an un-corruptible home-planet”

“Formwela 4”: “the articulation of needs streaming oxygenation through your ancestral vessel/vein of infinite life”

“Formwela 8”: “a sound at ease, with no urge to move from that comfort place”

spalding’s performance here is outstanding, and her top notch band, Loving presences (aka singers) and the Magical dance presence (aka dancer) add a dimension of creativity that amplifies the music’s message and nourishes the spirit. Green-screened walls explode to reveal a constellation of imagery that complements the flow of this seductive music. Be sure to watch until the end.

SET LIST
“Formwela 3”
“Formwela 4”
“Formwela 8”
“Formwela 3”

MUSICIANS
esperanza spalding: vocals, bass
Vuyo (Vuyolwethu) Sotashe: vocals
Safa Ishmel-Muhammad: vocals
Corey King: vocals, guitar
Matthew Stevens: guitar
Leo Genovese: piano, Farfisa, Rhodes
Aaron Burnett: saxophone
Francisco Mela: drums

LOVING PRESENCES
Donna Hope: vocals
Jeff Tang: vocals
Lileana Blain Cruz: vocals
Mariza Scotch: vocals
Lisa Lamothe: vocals
Diery Prudent: vocals
Adobuere Ebiama: vocals
Shamel Pitts: dancer

CREDITS
Director: Adrien GYSTERE Peskine
Producer: esperanza spalding
Recorded and mixed by Fernando Lodeiro
Concept, Direction, Creative Direction, Sets, Editing, Foley, Choreography: Adrien GYSTERE Peskine
Production: Héloïse Darcq
Additional Production, Set Design: Anthony Peskine
Additional cameras: Jessica Cochran, Daniel Santos, Meg Stacker
Assistant Sound Engineer: Quinn McCarthy
Sudan Pyramids Footage: Alexis Peskine
Wardrobe: JOJO ABOT
Recorded at The Creamery Studio

TINY DESK TEAM
Producer: Suraya Mohamed
Video Producer: Kara Frame
Audio Mastering: Andy Huether
Tiny Production Team: Bob Boilen, Bobby Carter, Maia Stern, Josh Rogosin, Joshua Bryant, Sofie Hernandez-Simeonidis
Executive Producer: Keith Jenkins
Senior VP, Programming: Anya Grundmann

#tinydesk #nprmusic #esperanzaspalding

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 4, 2022 • 9:13:10pm

don’t know how I did this

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Captain Ron  Jul 4, 2022 • 9:31:05pm

Duke is indifferent towards firecrackers and fireworks. Out of six dogs I’ve had only one freaked out from fireworks, a 100 lb keeshond/rottweiler mix. He would stand on my shoulders when the booms started.

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Captain Ron  Jul 4, 2022 • 9:37:02pm

It sounds like a war zone outside this year, lots of M-80s and big firecrackers. Way more illegal stuff than ever before.

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Captain Ron  Jul 4, 2022 • 9:39:47pm

The fire department is stopping at fires on the way to other fires.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 4, 2022 • 9:43:15pm

re: #1 I Would Prefer Not To

Double bogey on the par 3.

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Another fail in the realm of music i dislike.

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A fail on classical piano music. I have not heard this piece before.

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Targetpractice  Jul 4, 2022 • 9:44:25pm

The Battle of July 4th continues apace outside. I wish I had that sort of money to burn.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jul 4, 2022 • 10:01:39pm

I see that a few B-52s from Operation Linebacker have fallen into the time warp on their way to Hanoi and are unloading on Fort Worth. Minor strikes are underway in Weatherford and points west, probably Luftwaffe stragglers left over from the blitz.

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wrenchwench  Jul 4, 2022 • 10:03:53pm

re: #7 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

{{{Shiplord}}}

{ } = ear muffs

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 4, 2022 • 10:04:18pm

Too much knowledge of porn, not enough guesses provided.

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William Lewis  Jul 4, 2022 • 10:04:19pm

Last year it was a war zone around here but nothing - literally - around here tonight. I’m shocked actually. We had some rain earlier, but it was done hours before darkness. The only fireworks I’ve seen were in that X music video I posted this morning. How odd…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 4, 2022 • 10:05:24pm

re: #6 Targetpractice

The Battle of July 4th continues apace outside. I wish I had that sort of money to burn.

Much sheriff’s deputy here, many quiet.

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Captain Ron  Jul 4, 2022 • 10:06:58pm

M-80 attack within 100 feet.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 4, 2022 • 10:10:53pm

Today’s Lewdle word has a subreddit (of course) … much NSFW

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Targetpractice  Jul 4, 2022 • 10:13:27pm

The guns have gone silent. Guess they’ve declared an ceasefire until Labor Day.

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Belafon  Jul 4, 2022 • 10:15:25pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 4, 2022 • 10:18:08pm

re: #15 Belafon

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25 years ago? Really? Ah, this must be my daily “You’re getting old” moment.

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Belafon  Jul 4, 2022 • 10:19:04pm

“It was his upbringing. It’s not his fault he became an adult and was allowed to have guns.”

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Captain Ron  Jul 4, 2022 • 10:23:57pm

re: #16 Targetpractice

25 years ago? Really? Ah, this must be my daily “You’re getting old” moment.

I wear t-shirts older than that, some are over 40 years old.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 4, 2022 • 10:28:50pm

You can order Ben Garrison’s crazed Independence Day cartoon! He’ll even sign it!

On top of that, his editorial opinion beneath the cartoon is full of conservalies.

grrrgraphics.com

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jul 4, 2022 • 10:35:34pm

Sounds like someone is popping corn outside. I guess the war is postponed this year.

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 4, 2022 • 10:36:55pm

re: #17 Belafon

“He came from a broken home!”
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Sherlock Hound  Jul 4, 2022 • 10:39:59pm

re: #19 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You can order Ben Garrison’s crazed Independence Day cartoon! He’ll even sign it!

On top of that, his editorial opinion beneath the cartoon is full of conservalies.

grrrgraphics.com

I see huge F-150 truck! Much thirsty, so whiny…

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Targetpractice  Jul 4, 2022 • 10:42:20pm

re: #17 Belafon

“It was his upbringing. It’s not his fault he became an adult and was allowed to have guns.”

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I’m loving the “HE DON’T LOOK LIKE ONE OF US!!!” whines from MAGAts on social media. I guess it’s because he’s not wearing the requisite stained wife beater, torn jeans, or mullet.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 4, 2022 • 10:46:28pm

re: #17 Belafon

“It was his upbringing. It’s not his fault he became an adult and was allowed to have guns.”

Wingnuts are busy making fake Twitter accounts with antifascist images.

Conservatives must lie, because a proper examination of their own subculture would mean they have to accept that they are, in fact, violent.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 4, 2022 • 10:49:26pm

re: #24 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This one in particular where they crop out the 5 posts and 1 follower = that page was created after he was identified. 😂

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 4, 2022 • 10:58:46pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 4, 2022 • 11:06:49pm

re: #26 DodgerFan1988

They’re still going lying as fast as they can.

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Targetpractice  Jul 4, 2022 • 11:13:32pm

re: #27 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

They’re still going lying as fast as they can.

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They’re seriously going to try to BSAB this fucker?

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No Malarkey!  Jul 4, 2022 • 11:24:02pm

re: #28 Targetpractice

They’re seriously going to try to BSAB this fucker?

Of course they are, its what they do.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 4, 2022 • 11:35:33pm
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EstebanTornado1963  Jul 4, 2022 • 11:46:23pm

Some asshole posted a pic of the Chicago shooter wearing an FBI hat therefore couldn’t be a trumptard

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 4, 2022 • 11:46:52pm

re: #29 No Malarkey!

Of course they are, its what they do.

And still lying. (The “including it was debunked” lie. The poster didn’t write that and is trying to retcon their way out of a lie.)

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BigPapa  Jul 4, 2022 • 11:47:54pm

re: #31 EstebanTornado1963

Some asshole posted a pic of the Chicago shooter wearing an FBI hat therefore couldn’t be a trumptard

He’s obvi FBI.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 4, 2022 • 11:51:14pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 4, 2022 • 11:55:09pm
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William Lewis  Jul 5, 2022 • 12:04:27am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 5, 2022 • 12:09:34am

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Really looking forward to someone dropping that pr0n video Fuentes is in. LOL let’s see him explain that one.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 5, 2022 • 12:19:25am
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Captain Ron  Jul 5, 2022 • 12:22:18am

re: #38 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

They must worship a dickhead god.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 5, 2022 • 12:24:42am

re: #36 William Lewis

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 5, 2022 • 12:27:20am

re: #38 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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So for those numbnuts, God is an obese Big Apple real estate shyster in a poorly-fitting suit with a bad combover and wearing more makeup than a pantomime dame.

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Captain Ron  Jul 5, 2022 • 12:29:48am

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 5, 2022 • 12:33:47am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 5, 2022 • 12:36:30am

The pride of South Carolina weighs in.

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Captain Ron  Jul 5, 2022 • 12:46:46am

re: #44 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The pride of South Carolina weighs in.

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Some people should not be allowed to do math.

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Targetpractice  Jul 5, 2022 • 12:47:53am

re: #38 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Trumpism is a hell of a drug.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 5, 2022 • 12:48:09am

re: #45 Captain Ron

Some people should not be allowed to do math.

I was told there wouldn’t be any. /s

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 5, 2022 • 12:51:45am

Thread, six tweets.

And right back at it:

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Targetpractice  Jul 5, 2022 • 12:55:39am

re: #40 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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When you strip the facts of the cases and turn them into just statistics, then it becomes easier to present it all as a nebulous “problem” that needs a “solution.” That’s when you can take refuge in arguing the numbers, like “AR-15s are used only in a small percentage of gun deaths annually” or “More kids are killed annually by pools/cars/feet/etc than guns!” Thus how you excuse inaction, by declaring that there’s no “solution” that will solve all gun crimes without violating “rights,” so you’re left tinkering around the edges and declaring “victory.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 5, 2022 • 12:57:56am

Atheist YouTuber True Pooka (Phillip Rose) calling out a stealth Christian anti-Semite. Not getting a lot of support from Twitter Support.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2022 • 12:58:53am

re: #16 Targetpractice

25 years ago? Really? Ah, this must be my daily “You’re getting old” moment.

I was already too much of an Old Man to pay attention to it back then…

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Targetpractice  Jul 5, 2022 • 1:07:31am

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I was told there wouldn’t be any. /s

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Just read the article and it is just one long puff piece for the “pro-life” crowd. Their cross-section of the young women who supposedly make up the “pro-life generation” are about what you’d expect in 2022: the religiously brainwashed, young idiots who don’t get that all the “progress” made since Roe is now under attack, and (of course) the far-left nutters who are pushing that women are “exploited” by “Big Abortion.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 5, 2022 • 1:16:34am

The Libertarian Party is still calling for the destruction of the nation.

About that, assholes, did you forget that France and Spain helped us with that?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 5, 2022 • 1:21:44am

The Harrison Twp. shooter in Michigan has been captured.

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Captain Ron  Jul 5, 2022 • 1:22:34am

re: #54 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

White?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 5, 2022 • 1:28:43am

re: #55 Captain Ron

White?

They do not say. That information has not yet been released.

He was shot re-entering his home, and the SWAT team was able to arrest him whist he lay on his sofa. He has been taken to the hospital.

A Mt. Clemens man brandished a gun when his neighbor tried to talk to him about his dog, leading to an hours-long standoff Monday, authorities said.

The Macomb County Sheriff’s Office responded to a home on Clinton Street, near Gratiot Avenue and Market Street, around 11:55 a.m. on reports of a man with a gun. Deputies said when a neighbor attempted to speak with the man, he brandished a gun and threatened to shoot her. The victim provided the man’s name and description when she called 911.

Sheriff Anthony Wickersham said the man was known to authorities, and deputies had been called to the home in the past.

When deputies got to the scene, they saw the 64-year-old man enter a condominium. He then came outside and fired at deputies before going back inside, authorities said.

“There is always that unknown risk when you are going to a call of what’s going to happen? A simple barking dog complaint or neighbor complaint can turn into a shots fired type call, which happened in this situation,” Wickersham said.

Deputies closed the road and set up a perimeter.

He came out again around 12:35 p.m. and fired at deputies with a rifle, authorities said. No one was hit, but a bullet struck an unoccupied patrol car. A deputy returned fire and believed he hit the man, who went back inside.

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sagehen  Jul 5, 2022 • 1:42:04am

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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she honestly doesn’t believe that Judaism allows for abortion? Pretty damn ignorant of a Jew, I’d say.

In Israel, where the ultra-orthodox chief rabbi has substantial sway over what happens in the Knesset, here’s the Israeli abortion laws:

If it’s for medical reasons, there’s no time limit. They use whatever method the doctor thinks best. The government pays for it.

If it’s not for medical reasons, if it’s purely elective, the time limit is what they call 18 weeks and we call 20 weeks (because we count from a different zero). The government will pay for it if the woman is over 40, under 18, active duty military, or if the pregnancy came from rape, incest or adultery.

A woman who doesn’t fit any of those categories, she wants an elective abortion for whatever her own reasons might be… she has until the time limit to go to a private doctor and pay for it herself.

I say again — the ultra-orthodox chief rabbi is okay with this set of rules.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 5, 2022 • 1:52:38am

re: #57 sagehen

My wife just pointed out Laura Loomer is the equivalent of “more Catholic than the Pope.”

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Targetpractice  Jul 5, 2022 • 1:58:25am

re: #53 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The Libertarian Party is still calling for the destruction of the nation.

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I’m curious to hear how these fuckwits square “The Founders would totally be cool with rebelling against the government they created!” with the Whiskey Rebellion, i.e. that time a bunch of country bumpkins decided they didn’t want to pay no taxes and so took to terrorism and violence against tax collectors until Washington got fed up and called up an army he personally led to bring the whole nonsense to an end.

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sagehen  Jul 5, 2022 • 2:02:07am

re: #59 Targetpractice

I’m curious to hear how these fuckwits square “The Founders would totally be cool with rebelling against the government they created!” with the Whiskey Rebellion, i.e. that time a bunch of country bumpkins decided they didn’t want to pay no taxes and so took to terrorism and violence against tax collectors until Washington got fed up and called up an army he personally led to bring the whole nonsense to an end.

Or, y’know, the time 11 States tried to secede and start a whole new country. They attacked US military bases, stole the contents of the armories, they even got West Point’s commandant to come lead their army.

The United States government, the president, the congress, the actual US military… did not take this lying down.

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Targetpractice  Jul 5, 2022 • 2:33:11am

re: #60 sagehen

Or, y’know, the time 11 States tried to secede and start a whole new country. They attacked US military bases, stole the contents of the armories, they even got West Point’s commandant to come lead their army.

The United States government, the president, the congress, the actual US military… did not take this lying down.

I use the Whiskey Rebellion as the example because the whole thing happened so soon after the signing of the ratification of the Constitution that there’s no real way to argue that “Oh, well, the Founders wouldn’t have agreed had they been alive.” No, the ink was barely dry on the paper when the whole thing happened, and it was almost directly responsible for the formation of political parties (Jefferson rode to the White House on a wave of resentment over the whiskey tax).

The Whiskey Rebellion is basically the example of how fucking ridiculous the idea that the Founders as a group would have been cool with violent rebellion against the government or that the 2A exists as a means of allowing such.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 5, 2022 • 2:43:09am

re: #27 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

He deleted his tweet. Probably because it was a blatant lie.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 5, 2022 • 2:54:55am

re: #59 Targetpractice

I’m curious to hear how these fuckwits square “The Founders would totally be cool with rebelling against the government they created!” with the Whiskey Rebellion, i.e. that time a bunch of country bumpkins decided they didn’t want to pay no taxes and so took to terrorism and violence against tax collectors until Washington got fed up and called up an army he personally led to bring the whole nonsense to an end.

See the so-called Internet law DarkShikari’s Theorem (user from the Y Combinator site):

Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe they are in good company.

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Dangerman  Jul 5, 2022 • 2:56:05am

re: #41 Dr Lizardo

So for those numbnuts, God is an obese Big Apple real estate shyster in a poorly-fitting suit with a bad combover and wearing more makeup than a pantomime dame.

About as big a miracle as walking on water

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Dangerman  Jul 5, 2022 • 3:04:14am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 5, 2022 • 3:08:20am

re: #65 Dangerman

I can’t imagine white that is…..

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Targetpractice  Jul 5, 2022 • 3:12:07am

re: #65 Dangerman

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Your regular reminder that Tamir Rice was fatally wounded before the academy flunkie that shot him had finished shouting his order or the car he was riding in had come to a complete stop.

It’s amazing how selective cops are in what “frightens” them, isn’t it?//////

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 5, 2022 • 3:24:08am

re: #67 Targetpractice

Your regular reminder that Tamir Rice was fatally wounded before the academy flunkie that shot him had finished shouting his order or the car he was riding in had come to a complete stop.

It’s amazing how selective cops are in what “frightens” them, isn’t it?//////

YEAH, BUT THE COPS SAID THAT TAMIR RICE WAS 7’ 3” AND HE WAS WAVING AROUND AN AK-103 WITH A DRUM MAG SO WHAT WAS HE SUPPOSED TO DO?! CHECKMATE, LIBTARD!!

🙄

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 5, 2022 • 3:35:02am

re: #65 Dangerman

And passing a counterfeit banknote is not against the law, unless you know the banknote is counterfeit.

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TarHellion  Jul 5, 2022 • 3:49:58am

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After yesterday’s miracle 2, back to the standard 4/6. Head back to the office, but the good part about 3-day weekends is you only have a 4-day week!

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sagehen  Jul 5, 2022 • 4:31:02am

re: #67 Targetpractice

Your regular reminder that Tamir Rice was fatally wounded before the academy flunkie that shot him had finished shouting his order or the car he was riding in had come to a complete stop.

It’s amazing how selective cops are in what “frightens” them, isn’t it?//////

Jayland Walker, in Akron this past weekend, was unarmed when the cops shot him 60 times. Yeah, you heard me right, SIXTY TIMES.

And now the mayor of Akron is declaring a state of emergency, ‘cause people are really pissed off and marching and protesting and shit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2022 • 4:34:42am
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jul 5, 2022 • 4:35:41am

Big Bay Boom, 2012 incident

In 2012, a show presented by Garden State Fireworks went awry. On Wednesday, July 4, 2012, 7,000 fireworks, intended for a 17-minute display, discharged prematurely and simultaneously from all four barges and the pier. The entire cache exploded in less than a minute.

The coordinated fireworks are triggered by computer, and the premature discharge was blamed on a corrupted computer file. There were no injuries; workers on the barges took refuge in metal shelters designed for their protection. Garden State Fireworks apologized and promised to do a future show for free. The accident went viral on the internet.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 5, 2022 • 4:39:50am

Lilies are blooming on Honshu:

Youtube Video

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 5, 2022 • 4:51:07am

This is what happens when you just plain overthink things.

Click to Reveal

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2022 • 5:08:32am

I am here today instead of work because I had neighbors shooting off fireworks at 3 in the morning. Needless to say I am working on very little sleep.

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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2022 • 5:08:48am

Mass shootings are a distinctly US thing. We have mass shootings in every situation, scenario, and location.

Drive bys? We got ‘em. (too many to identify)
Sniper nest shooters? We got those too (Las Vegas)
School shootings (Robb Elementary is just the latest)
Churches? Yeah, all denominations.
Synagogues? Yup. Tree of Life.
Colleges/universities? VA Tech.
Supermarkets?
Malls?
Movie Theaters?

Yes, Yes, and Yes.

Targeting cops? Yup. Those too.

Know what the defining characteristic for all those shootings? Easy availability of guns. It’s not doors. It’s not lack of good guys with guns. It’s not lack of teachers with guns.

It’s the fucking guns.

And this right wing lunatic asylum of a SCOTUS decided to gut gun regulations in a state with among the lowest per capita gun death rate in nation. States with strong gun laws have far lower per capita death rates from guns than lax states. That’s not a surprise. It’s highly correlated. Easy access to guns, when there’s no requirements for training, handling, or safety, means that it’s easier to shoot and kill on purpose. It’s also easier to have negligent handling incidents.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 5, 2022 • 5:18:30am

re: #77 lawhawk

But a mass shooting happened in Denmark, therefore your argument is invalid./////////

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 5, 2022 • 5:24:35am

Well, it’s a couple hours after sunrise here in Mythical Time, and there’s something wrong on the Internet (I’m still awake, that’s what’s wrong).

The crazy people camping in the village park left a little while ago. Yay.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 5, 2022 • 5:30:30am

If all these mysterious Russian oligarch deaths were put onto film by Martin Scorsese, it’d look like one of those “dead men tell no tales” montage scenes from Goodfellas or Casino.

A multi-millionaire Russian businessman has been shot dead at his mansion, the latest elite with links to energy giant Gazprom to die in recent months.

Yuri Voronov, 61, head of a logistics company that held lucrative contracts with Gazprom in the Arctic, was found dead at his home in an ultra-wealthy suburb of St Petersburg around 2pm Monday.

Voronov was found floating in the swimming pool with a gunshot wound to his head, a Grand Power pistol nearby, and several spent cases at the bottom of the pool.

He is at least the sixth wealthy Russian businessman to die in mysterious circumstances since the start of the year, many of them with links to Gazprom, and two of whom died in the same St Petersburg suburb as Voronov.

dailymail.co.uk

It really does seem like someone in Russia (but I don’t exactly who) is wrapping up some loose ends or something.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 5, 2022 • 5:34:05am

Yikes. I made the mistake of opening Reddit’s r/ReligiousFruitcakes

That’s enough Internet for me today.

So raping a kid is gods plan. Sure. (Caution for Christian apologetics on why raping children is good, actually)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 5, 2022 • 5:42:08am

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That tweet is getting ratioed to the core of the planet.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 5, 2022 • 5:48:26am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 5, 2022 • 5:51:03am

re: #82 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That tweet is getting ratioed to the core of the planet.

She’s basically posted a longer version of “thoughts and prayers.”

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jeffreyw  Jul 5, 2022 • 5:54:43am

yard cows

Good morning!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 5, 2022 • 5:57:22am

re: #84 Dr. Matt

She’s basically posted a longer version of “thoughts and prayers.”

And if everything is “God’s plan,” then there is absolutely no need to do anything about any sort of crime. (I’ll bet she wouldn’t feel the same if it was her.)

On the other hand, they can then argue “it’s God’s plan to have laws and courts” when it’s convenient.

From The Atheist Experience in Austin:

“You either have a God who sends child rapists to rape children or you have a God who simply watches it and says, ‘When you’re done, I’m going to punish you.’ If I could stop a person from raping a child, I would. That’s the difference between me and your God.”—Tracie Harris

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 5, 2022 • 6:00:18am

re: #86 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Ms. Harris in that case was responding to a caller about another child rape case who was arguing it was the will of God. When she finished that quip, the caller responded that she was a sinner and deserved it. That earned a well-deserved hang-up on the show.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 5, 2022 • 6:05:37am

I remember reading somewhere that it’s possible to create fireworks displays with little to no sound involved. That the booms can be removed somehow. This is way above my pay grade, but why don’t we do this? Especially since we know a lot more about PTSD and claim to care about veterans. And for a nation that supposedly loves their pets, how many dogs and cats run away scared to death or spend a couple evenings in terror indoors over this on nearly every holiday now?

Last night was awful but it ended early because we got hammered with almost 2 inches of rain starting at about 10 pm. Cleo was a mess. I am over this crap. And the assholes who use fireworks as an excuse to fire guns into the air really need to have some Carnation Instant Karma in their grocery cart.

I’d like to live around happy and well adjusted humans, is that wrong?

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2022 • 6:06:47am

re: #87 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I hate to say it but that “caller” would have a problem with me too. If a man cannot control himself there is something wrong with him and he should seek real medical help.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 5, 2022 • 6:16:07am

re: #89 PhillyPretzel

I hate to say it but that “caller” would have a problem with me too. If a man cannot control himself there is something wrong with him and he should seek real medical help.

I’m so sick of the religious fundamentalist narrative that Christianity and Islam have built together that women are responsible for controlling men’s lustful desires. Returning specifically to Christianity, the Bible is pretty clear that “if your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away.” In other words, men, if you’re having problems with ogling the ladies, that’s YOUR DAMN PROBLEM and you need to FIX IT YOURSELF, not complain about how the women are dressing. The Bible says that we should refrain from behaviors that cause other people to struggle as a courtesy, but that’s been warped out of all proportion because apparently it’s way easier to tell all women everywhere to cover up than to tell all men everywhere to quit being creepy and gross.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2022 • 6:23:38am

re: #53 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“Independence Day is a celebration of secession.

Our current federal gov’t is far more oppressive than King George ever was. Democracy has served to pull the wool over our eyes and make us believe we rule ourselves.

It’s time for secession once more.”

The Tea Party is likewise founded on the notion that a freely and democratically elected federal government is no different than a hereditary monarchy.

They have gone from “Taxation with representation is tyranny!” to “Taxation is tyranny!”

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Dangerman  Jul 5, 2022 • 6:25:03am

re: #90 Dopamine Fish

I’m so sick of the religious fundamentalist narrative that Christianity and Islam have built together that women are responsible for controlling men’s lustful desires. Returning specifically to Christianity, the Bible is pretty clear that “if your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away.” In other words, men, if you’re having problems with ogling the ladies, that’s YOUR DAMN PROBLEM and you need to FIX IT YOURSELF, not complain about how the women are dressing. The Bible says that we should refrain from behaviors that cause other people to struggle as a courtesy, but that’s been warped out of all proportion because apparently it’s way easier to tell all women everywhere to cover up than to tell all men everywhere to quit being creepy and gross.

it’s not my fault
it’s never my fault

therefore i (we) dont have to do anything about it

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Dangerman  Jul 5, 2022 • 6:26:21am

re: #91 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Tea Party is likewise founded on the notion that a freely and democratically elected federal government is no different than a hereditary monarchy.

They have gone from “Taxation with representation is tyranny!” to “Taxation is tyranny!”

they’re pretty obvious about saying anything i dont like is ‘tyranny’

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 5, 2022 • 6:28:46am

Meh.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 5, 2022 • 6:29:14am

re: #92 Dangerman

it’s not my fault
it’s never my fault

therefore i (we) dont have to do anything about it

The belief system of Christianity is supposed to be about introspection; realizing that you are a sinful person, and while you can’t completely remove your sin by yourself, you should still do what you can to live a better life. Somehow that’s evolved into, “I abdicate my personal responsibility; Jesus will forgive me for anything wrong I do, so it literally doesn’t matter how much wrong I do.” We’re back to selling pardons for sins, but instead of invading Israel, they’re going on holy crusades against sluts and gays and gun-hating liberals.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2022 • 6:31:55am

Same meh

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2022 • 6:47:28am

re: #95 Dopamine Fish

Their sinners can go out and rape and adulterate and God will forgive them and their slate will be wiped clean.

Democrats will never be clean of sin until they renounce their support for killing babies and allowing queers to groom innocent children and paying for lazy people to live at government expense, etc…

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 5, 2022 • 6:58:11am
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Dopamine Fish  Jul 5, 2022 • 6:59:51am

re: #97 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Their sinners can go out and rape and adulterate and God will forgive them and their slate will be wiped clean.

Democrats will never be clean of sin until they renounce their support for killing babies and allowing queers to groom innocent children and paying for lazy people to live at government expense, etc…

There are going to be a lot of surprises at the Pearly Gates for these assholes.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2022 • 6:59:58am

re: #98 The Pie Overlord!

Oy Vey. This stinks.

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Dangerman  Jul 5, 2022 • 7:00:02am

re: #97 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Their sinners can go out and rape and adulterate and God will forgive them and their slate will be wiped clean.

Democrats will never be clean of sin until they renounce their support for killing babies and allowing queers to groom innocent children and paying for lazy people to live at government expense, etc…

Because if they did renounce all that, the Rs would come with something else

Think goalposts, moving…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2022 • 7:06:23am

re: #101 Dangerman

Because if they did renounce all that, the Rs would come with something else

If they renounced all that, they would be Republicans.

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darthstar  Jul 5, 2022 • 7:10:21am

Jesus…our July 4th parade was nothing like Highland Park’s.

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2022 • 7:13:33am

re: #82 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That tweet is getting ratioed to the core of the planet.

What if God’s plan is for people to understand that abortion should always be available?

(No, I don’t think he’s real, and if I did, I don’t think he would use a 10 year old girl that way.)

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darthstar  Jul 5, 2022 • 7:15:59am

re: #103 darthstar

Jesus…our July 4th parade was nothing like Highland Park’s.

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If a marching band of children breaking into a sprint as they run from gunfire doesn’t get aired on every fucking channel on every fucking news hour then our media is complicit in supporting gun violence.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 5, 2022 • 7:18:23am

re: #105 darthstar

If a marching band of children breaking into a sprint as they run from gunfire doesn’t get aired on every fucking channel on every fucking news hour then our media is complicit in supporting gun violence.

They’re already complicit. The hype about Sandy Hook died out after, what, a week? Are we even still talking about Uvalde anymore? We can’t do enough to keep these things in the spotlight; there’s no ratings in continuing to parade dead children on our screens.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2022 • 7:18:23am

Again, these Christian Biblical Fundamentalists are throwbacks to a morality that was developed thousands of years ago by nomadic sheep and goat herders who were dominated by bearded Patriarchs whose job it was to protect their property: their flocks and herds, their wives and their daughters (roughly in that order of importance).

The Cult of Virginity was important because Patriarchs wanted to ensure that their property was being passed on to their own spawn and not some cuckoo’s egg.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jul 5, 2022 • 7:19:46am

re: #104 Belafon

What if God’s plan is for people to understand that abortion should always be available?

(No, I don’t think he’s real, and if I did, I don’t think he would use a 10 year old girl that way.)

People imagine gods in their own image. Republicans imagine an evil god that does that sort of thing.

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2022 • 7:21:53am

Someone shared the image at work, but due to strange rules of my company’s internet, it was easier for me to share a link from twitter - which I cannot actually get onto - than it is for me to upload an image for you to see.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2022 • 7:23:01am

re: #108 Crush White Nationalism

People imagine gods in their own image. Republicans imagine an evil god that does that sort of thing.

They imagine that their God somehow approves of Ayn Rand.

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JC1  Jul 5, 2022 • 7:24:16am

re: #66 Dr Lizardo

I can’t imagine white that is…..

His dad ran for mayor a couple of years ago. Well connected family of wingnuts.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jul 5, 2022 • 7:28:22am
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2022 • 7:30:26am

re: #112 Crush White Nationalism

And some of my co-workers want to know why I rather watch a downloaded movie than go to a movie theater.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 5, 2022 • 7:31:43am

re: #90 Dopamine Fish

I’m so sick of the religious fundamentalist narrative that Christianity and Islam have built together that women are responsible for controlling men’s lustful desires. Returning specifically to Christianity, the Bible is pretty clear that “if your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away.” In other words, men, if you’re having problems with ogling the ladies, that’s YOUR DAMN PROBLEM and you need to FIX IT YOURSELF, not complain about how the women are dressing.

I threw that scripture at a guy a while back in a similar conversation and he immediately went in on: “Well, actually that’s not intended to be taken literally. Here’s what Jesus actually meant when he said that…”

I let him ramble for a few minutes and then walked away.

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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2022 • 7:31:53am

re: #109 Belafon

My captain, what’s the word of the day. “Thrilled”.
Captain. We have engaged… the Borg.
Are you green? Super green.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2022 • 7:32:16am

re: #113 PhillyPretzel

And some of my co-workers want to know why I rather watch a downloaded movie than go to a movie theater.

When I lived in a more urban area we went out to a movie as an excuse to go downtown and meet up with other people.

Now that I live out in the country with the nearest cinema at least forty minutes away, I am less inclined to make the journey.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 5, 2022 • 7:32:30am

re: #94 The Pie Overlord!

Stupid third guess

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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2022 • 7:33:54am

re: #112 Crush White Nationalism

Shooter targeted cops. The shooter targeted the “good guys with guns”. So there’s that.

Only in the US can we have multiple mass shootings and it ticks off all the hot button topics that right wingers claim will stop gun violence - good guys with guns, doors, shootings at places other than schools, armed teachers, armed law enforcement, etc.

The one thing that they refuse to touch: gun regulations that make it harder to get guns.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2022 • 7:34:28am

re: #114 Eclectic Cyborg

I threw that scripture at a guy a while back in a similar conversation and he immediately went in on: “Well, actually that’s not intended to be taken literally. Here’s what Jesus actually meant when he said that…”

I let him ramble for a few minutes and then walked away.

Which parts of the Bible are to be taken literally? “Turn the other cheek?”, “Suffer not a witch to live?” “Sleep with your widowed stepsister to sire her an offspring and heir?”

This is why the Founding Fathers decided to separate Church and State: to keep these sorts of arcane arguments from becoming part of how we are governed.

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darthstar  Jul 5, 2022 • 7:35:11am
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Dopamine Fish  Jul 5, 2022 • 7:39:00am

re: #114 Eclectic Cyborg

I threw that scripture at a guy a while back in a similar conversation and he immediately went in on: “Well, actually that’s not intended to be taken literally. Here’s what Jesus actually meant when he said that…”

I let him ramble for a few minutes and then walked away.

He’s right when he said it wasn’t intended to be taken literally; Jesus isn’t about bodily mutilation (despite the beliefs of more than a few fringe sects). Anything beyond that is just mansplaining, and probably a steaming dump of a hot take.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 5, 2022 • 7:39:00am

re: #120 darthstar

“He’d answer the phone right now but he’s too busy laughing his face off.”

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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2022 • 7:57:21am
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Dopamine Fish  Jul 5, 2022 • 8:00:45am

“The town’s mayor says the rifle was purchased legally.” Add another one to the list, folks. (How much you wanna bet the kid went over to Indiana, got the gun there, and brought it back across?)

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2022 • 8:01:41am

re: #124 Dopamine Fish

Even money. That is probably what he did.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 5, 2022 • 8:02:12am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jul 5, 2022 • 8:02:47am

re: #112 Crush White Nationalism

I used to live about two blocks from that location.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2022 • 8:04:02am

I grew up at the other end of the Chicago Urban Area; in Gary, Indiana, where guns are cheap and easily available.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 5, 2022 • 8:04:34am

re: #1 I Would Prefer Not To

don’t know how I did this

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No Malarkey!  Jul 5, 2022 • 8:05:25am

re: #110 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They imagine that their God somehow approves of Ayn Rand.

An atheist who despised Christian morality.

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steve_davis  Jul 5, 2022 • 8:05:46am

re: #95 Dopamine Fish

The belief system of Christianity is supposed to be about introspection; realizing that you are a sinful person, and while you can’t completely remove your sin by yourself, you should still do what you can to live a better life. Somehow that’s evolved into, “I abdicate my personal responsibility; Jesus will forgive me for anything wrong I do, so it literally doesn’t matter how much wrong I do.” We’re back to selling pardons for sins, but instead of invading Israel, they’re going on holy crusades against sluts and gays and gun-hating liberals.

it’s called cheap grace. bonhoeffer wrote about it in the seminal Cost of Discipleship.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 5, 2022 • 8:06:47am

re: #128 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I grew up at the other end of the Chicago Urban Area; in Gary, Indiana, where guns are cheap and easily available.

I wasn’t too far away from you. I always called that part of the state “the armpit of the Midwest”, and once we left, we never looked back.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 5, 2022 • 8:10:01am

re: #118 lawhawk

Shooter targeted cops. The shooter targeted the “good guys with guns”. So there’s that.

Only in the US can we have multiple mass shootings and it ticks off all the hot button topics that right wingers claim will stop gun violence - good guys with guns, doors, shootings at places other than schools, armed teachers, armed law enforcement, etc.

The one thing that they refuse to touch: gun regulations that make it harder to get guns.

The Highland Park shooting is tailor made to spin up one of their favorite deflections, rap music. “He’s a rapper, whatabout that violent rap music!”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 5, 2022 • 8:11:50am

re: #133 No Malarkey!

The Highland Park shooting is tailor made to spin up one of their favorite deflections, rap music. “He’s a rapper, whatabout that violent rap music!”

His music was techno garbage. Not rap.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 5, 2022 • 8:12:00am

re: #133 No Malarkey!

The Highland Park shooting is tailor made to spin up one of their favorite deflections, rap music. “He’s a rapper, whatabout that violent rap music!”

He probably played violent video games too, let’s be fair. He’s a younger guy, don’t they all play games these days?

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danarchy  Jul 5, 2022 • 8:14:50am

re: #134 Eclectic Cyborg

His music was techno garbage. Not rap.

Not sure it was even really music, it was really more like really bad slam poetry.

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JC1  Jul 5, 2022 • 8:15:54am

re: #124 Dopamine Fish

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“The town’s mayor says the rifle was purchased legally.” Add another one to the list, folks. (How much you wanna bet the kid went over to Indiana, got the gun there, and brought it back across?)

His dad ran for mayor and is a big 2nd amendment proponent. Wouldn’t surprise me if he bought the gun in Illinois.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jul 5, 2022 • 8:22:52am

re: #85 jeffreyw

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2022 • 8:24:31am

re: #130 No Malarkey!

An atheist who despised Christian morality.

But she worshipped the Free Market

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2022 • 8:26:05am

re: #132 Dopamine Fish

I wasn’t too far away from you. I always called that part of the state “the armpit of the Midwest”, and once we left, we never looked back.

People would come to visit and ask, “What’s that smell?”, and of course we were like “What smell?”

And they would ask “Why is the sky that color?” and again we were like “Color? Is the sky supposed to have a color or what?”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2022 • 8:26:34am

re: #134 Eclectic Cyborg

His music was techno garbage. Not rap.

“Rap” makes it sound urban gangsta

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 5, 2022 • 8:30:16am
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No Malarkey!  Jul 5, 2022 • 8:35:07am

Oil is plummeting towards $100/barrel today. I don’t know why, but prices at the pump should continue to decline.

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gocart mozart  Jul 5, 2022 • 8:36:59am

Connecticut and Virginia police are finally charging this Qanon Nazi asshole.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2022 • 8:37:50am

re: #143 No Malarkey!

According to Kitco it is at $99.18 at the moment. It could go either way by the end of the day.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 5, 2022 • 8:38:21am

re: #65 Dangerman

….This Fucking guy opened fire on a 4th of July parade and has killed at least six people.

The police: “Do me a favor…”

But George Floyd died because he was suspected of passing a fake $20 bill….

TBF — In some cases this happens because different police departments are involved: those shooting someone 60 times are not the same officers as those who capture a suspect alive.

Then there is the current mayor of HP, Nancy Rotering:

The mayor said she had known the shooting suspect, 22-year-old Robert E. Crimo III, when she was his Cub Scout pack leader.

“Many years ago, he was just a little boy, a quiet little boy that I knew,” she said.

When a suspect is known to the community and is part of a respected family, they are usually treated better than some rando on the street.

On a personal (somewhat related note), my dentist’s office in HP called this morning to cancel today’s noon appointment because the area is still considered a crime scene and most of their patients had cancelled because they were too apprehensive to visit the office. I had figured out a route that bypassed the area under investigation (I thought) but looks like I will be going tomorrow instead.

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JC1  Jul 5, 2022 • 8:38:45am

re: #143 No Malarkey!

Oil is plummeting towards $100/barrel today. I don’t know why, but prices at the pump should continue to decline.

Recession fears.

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2022 • 8:40:56am

re: #143 No Malarkey!

Oil is plummeting towards $100/barrel today. I don’t know why, but prices at the pump should continue to decline.

We are down about 60 cents over the last three weeks from the highs.

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Teukka  Jul 5, 2022 • 8:46:01am

re: #142 The Pie Overlord!

Totes not a nazi /S

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darthstar  Jul 5, 2022 • 8:51:05am

Okay…old man rant time.

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darthstar  Jul 5, 2022 • 8:51:53am

re: #148 Belafon

We are down about 60 cents over the last three weeks from the highs.

People are hopeful for a Trump resurgence.
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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 5, 2022 • 8:53:45am

re: #94 The Pie Overlord!

4 for me

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2022 • 8:56:27am

re: #143 No Malarkey!

Oil is plummeting towards $100/barrel today. I don’t know why, but prices at the pump should continue to decline.

Why? The energy market has as much to do with the “Free Market” as it is revered as an ideology by the GOP (and Libertarians) as Christianity has to do with Protestant Fundamentalism.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:02:04am

A bit better today:

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sagehen  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:02:50am
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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:05:27am
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JC1  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:05:37am

re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Why? The energy market has as much to do with the “Free Market” as it is revered as an ideology by the GOP (and Libertarians) as Christianity has to do with Protestant Fundamentalism.

Disagree, unlike the stock market, which can defy economic reality for years on end, commodity markets are largely driven by supply and demand realities. Commodity markets are starting to price in a recession. It isn’t just energy; metals and lumber are getting hammered as well. The market is saying that inflation is a bigger threat to the downside than the Russia mess is to the upside.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:06:12am

re: #155 sagehen

That one is as good as: …be on the lookout for a small medium at large.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:07:36am

re: #157 JC1

Disagree, unlike the stock market, which can defy economic reality for years on end, commodity markets are largely driven by supply and demand realities. Commodity markets are starting to price in a recession. It isn’t just energy; metals and lumber are getting hammered as well. The market is saying that inflation is a bigger threat to the downside than the Russia mess is to the upside.

There are market forces at play but don’t forget the extent to which the energy market is dominated by cartels who also have a word in supply.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:14:39am

re: #156 lawhawk

He was known as Ellen Page at the time. Wouldn’t it make sense to report whatever name was accurate at the time of the incident? Or at least go with something like actor “Eliot Page (then known as Ellen Page)…”

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Teukka  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:16:46am

re: #156 lawhawk

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:17:37am

re: #150 darthstar

“It’s the 4th of July!”

One more day to discover U.S. law enforcement is optional, at the discretion of the enforcers.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:20:13am
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JC1  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:22:12am

re: #159 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are market forces at play but don’t forget the extent to which the energy market is dominated by cartels who also have a word in supply.

That’s true, and Russia is a big enough component so that their oil cannot be replaced at current demand levels. There’s very little capacity left in OPEC, short of removing sanctions from Iran. Nigeria and Angola haven’t even been producing at the OPEC specified level because their infrastructure is too f*cked. US can bring on more production, but producers are still reeling from the 2020 meltdown. There’s no conspiracy going on here. There were shenanigans by Russia in the nat gas market last year in preparation for the invasion. The oil futures curve out in 2023 never got much above 100; the oil market never expected the price spike to persist. Investment in future production isn’t made based on spot price, it’s made based on the futures pricing. Oil futures are below 80 for the second half of 2023.

cmegroup.com

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sagehen  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:23:09am

re: #159 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are market forces at play but don’t forget the extent to which the energy market is dominated by cartels who also have a word in supply.

oil producers, and refineries, shut down a substantial portion of their potential when the world was in shutdown. Remember that at one point the price of oil was in the negative, because there was no storage capacity available?

When the world opened up again, restarting the closed facilities isn’t like flipping a light-switch, it has to be gradually ramped up. At exactly the time that pent-up demand for gas (for both cars and planes) was jumping hugely.

Supply is catching up to demand, so prices are coming back to what we think is “normal”.

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JC1  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:23:46am

re: #160 Eclectic Cyborg

He was known as Ellen Page at the time. Wouldn’t it make sense to report whatever name was accurate at the time of the incident? Or at least go with something like actor “Eliot Page (then known as Ellen Page)…”

Obviously Twitter can make any rule they want, but this is silly, IMHO. So does this mean that we can’t call Trump Drumpf now?

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:24:24am

re: #160 Eclectic Cyborg

He was known as Ellen Page at the time. Wouldn’t it make sense to report whatever name was accurate at the time of the incident? Or at least go with something like actor “Eliot Page (then known as Ellen Page)…”

If you’re writing a tweet in 2022, as Rubin did, the name is Elliot, not Ellen. I don’t know if Twitter is going back through old tweets and removing them, but the date on Rubin’s page is pretty obvious.

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:26:03am

re: #166 JC1

Obviously Twitter can make any rule they want, but this is silly, IMHO. So does this mean that we can’t call Trump Drumpf now?

What is your intent in calling him Drumpf?

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JC1  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:29:26am

re: #168 Belafon

What is your intent in calling him Drumpf?

That was his old family name, and I’m guessing that he doesn’t like it and finds it annoying or derogatory. I imagine that I want to use it for the same reasons that right wing jackasses want to call Elliot Ellen.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:34:04am

re: #143 No Malarkey!

Oil is plummeting towards $100/barrel today. I don’t know why, but prices at the pump should continue to decline.

Bad news for Putin and his stooges Rand Paul and Ron Johnson, who have been hoping to persuade voters to sell out Ukraine in return for lower gas prices.

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danarchy  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:36:27am

re: #159 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are market forces at play but don’t forget the extent to which the energy market is dominated by cartels who also have a word in supply.

This is true, but the only method they have to reduce oil prices like that would be to greatly increase supply and to my knowledge OPEC hasn’t stepped up production in a major way.

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JC1  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:37:37am

re: #171 danarchy

This is true, but the only method they have to reduce oil prices like that would be to greatly increase supply and to my knowledge OPEC hasn’t stepped up production in a major way.

OPEC is pretty much at capacity. They can’t pump much more.

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:39:13am

re: #169 JC1

That was his old family name, and I’m guessing that he doesn’t like it and finds it annoying or derogatory. I imagine that I want to use it for the same reasons that right wing jackasses want to call Elliot Ellen.

I mean, if your intent is to deny that he’s actually someone other than who he himself states he is, then they probably are equivalent.

Those deliberately calling Elliot Ellen are doing it to deny that he’s the gender he claims to be.

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EstebanTornado1963  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:39:46am

re: #169 JC1

That was his old family name, and I’m guessing that he doesn’t like it and finds it annoying or derogatory. I imagine that I want to use it for the same reasons that right wing jackasses want to call Elliot Ellen.

I remember an ex skiing member of LGF jumped in my shit for calling trump that way back in 2016 🤣

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:41:22am

Those of us who are mindful of language make changes all the time. Remember the fight over calling Abbott “Hot Wheels”?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:41:40am

re: #172 JC1

OPEC is pretty much at capacity. They can’t pump much more.

Personally, I don’t believe anything that OPEC says. Maybe they are at capacity, maybe not. It’s not as though they are beacons of justice or honesty. But as long as we are beholden to the fossil fuel industry, our nation remains subject to their decisions, not ours.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:41:41am

re: #175 Belafon

Those of us who are mindful of language make changes all the time. Remember the fight over calling Abbott “Hot Wheels”?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:42:22am

I do love butter, but this is getting out of hand.

A large tub of Lurpak is now close to £10 in one major supermarket, it was revealed today, as it emerged shops have started putting anti-theft devices on staples such as cheese, meat and baby milk because they are classed as ‘high value’.

Shoppers took to social media to share pictures of security tags on £3.99 blocks of Aldi cheddar and £8 Co-op lamb chops in Wolverhampton because people are stealing them due to the cost of living crisis.

Tesco has fitted security tags to large cans of baby milk at Tesco Extra in Streatham, south London, after Sainsbury’s also started tagging tubs of Aptamil baby, toddler and follow-on milks.

Although baby milk near me is under lock and key, as well as razers and spray paint.

dailymail.co.uk

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:42:48am

re: #175 Belafon

I guess “Rolling Plunder” is out now, too,

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:44:09am
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jaunte  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:44:24am
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nines09  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:45:17am

They got cancer patients to go on TV and show what smoking done to them.
Quite graphic. Reality.
They should now get the permission if needed to show America exactly what high power full metal jacket shells do to flesh and bodies.
After every mass murder. Show the bodies. The wounds. The faces of the survivors.
Don’t even need music or a voice.
Just words at the bottom.
“This is what your neighbors AR semi auto can do to people. And they sell them to anyone and want no background checks or training.
Does this look like a highly regulated militia?
Does this look like Freedom?
Is this your America week after week after week?
How much is enough?
Vote for sanity.”

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Dangerman  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:46:04am

re: #118 lawhawk

Shooter targeted cops. The shooter targeted the “good guys with guns”. So there’s that.

Only in the US can we have multiple mass shootings and it ticks off all the hot button topics that right wingers claim will stop gun violence - good guys with guns, doors, shootings at places other than schools, armed teachers, armed law enforcement, etc.

The one thing that they refuse to touch: gun regulations that make it harder to get guns.

repeating from a day ago

we cannot regulate guns in any way because it might temporarily inconvenience even one law abiding citizen (as if, but ok)

so we must live with almost daily mass shootings by people who obviously, in hindsight, should not have had access to firearms

meanwhile

we must regulate with ruthless and draconian efficiency every possible avenue to abortion lest even one slips through, because that one single life is oh so ‘precious’ above all else, including the life of the mother, even if she’s a child and a rape victim

clearly none of the lives of actually born people killed by guns (including police) are ‘precious’

.

that is not hyperbole.
it’s a fact.
because otherwise there would be regulation with the same ruthless and draconian efficiency. and that could be done without trampling on the rights of responsible gun owners.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:47:55am

Narrator’s Voice: What Leah is saying is that she got an abortion, but the rest of you sluts?

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:48:11am

Putinites continue to threaten Finland.

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JC1  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:48:40am

re: #173 Belafon

I mean, if your intent is to deny that he’s actually someone other than who he himself states he is, then they probably are equivalent.

Those deliberately calling Elliot Ellen are doing it to deny that he’s the gender he claims to be.

I guess I just see it as an insulting nickname.

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Dangerman  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:49:29am

re: #145 PhillyPretzel

According to Kitco it is at $99.18 at the moment. It could go either way by the end of the day.

that’s why i come to lgf
for the insightful, spot on analysis

;-)

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Mike Lamb  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:51:27am

re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Narrator’s Voice: What Leah is saying is that she got an abortion, but the rest of you sluts?

WTF am I reading?

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:51:44am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:52:14am

re: #178 Shropshire Slasher

Last time I was at a Wal-Mart, I noticed just about everything in the medicine section was either under lock and key or had enhanced security.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:55:49am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:56:22am

re: #181 jaunte

The poll reflects the messaging and focus of mainstream media. The more they focus on inflation and gas prices, the more they are on peoples minds and the more likely those people are to identify them as major concerns in a survey like this.

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:57:42am

re: #186 JC1

I guess I just see it as an insulting nickname.

Personally, I do, too, and I think it’s ok, but Trump gets to decide that, not me.

But we know why they continue to call Elliot Ellen.

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2022 • 9:59:37am

re: #188 Mike Lamb

WTF am I reading?

re: #189 jaunte

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What you’re reading is a woman attempting to define her experience in a way so that it can be used against other women.

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danarchy  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:03:24am

re: #192 Eclectic Cyborg

The poll reflects the messaging and focus of mainstream media. The more they focus on inflation and gas prices, the more they are on peoples minds and the more likely those people are to identify them as major concerns in a survey like this.

That is crap, the poll reflects that people are more concerned with putting food on the table, gas in their car and paying the rent today than they are about something that may or will almost certainly happen years down the line. The media could not say word one about inflation and it woudn’t matter. Everyone knows it is happening, they just need to buy groceries to know it.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:03:38am

DeSantis throws more red meat to the base in anticipation of his 2024 presidential run. At this point, he’s got to be the J6 committee’s biggest fan, particularly with media focus on Trump’s temperament.

Public universities in Florida will be required to survey both faculty and students on their political beliefs and viewpoints, with the institutions at risk of losing their funding if the responses are not satisfactory to the state’s Republican-led legislature.
The unprecedented project, which was tucked into a law signed Tuesday by Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, is part of a long-running, nationwide right-wing push to promote “intellectual diversity” on campuses — though worries over a lack of details on the survey’s privacy protections, and questions over what the results may ultimately be used for, hover over the venture.
Based on the bill’s language, survey responses will not necessarily be anonymous — sparking worries among many professors and other university staff that they may be targeted, held back in their careers or even fired for their beliefs.
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The only details on the survey come via a passage over its purpose, to discover “the extent to which competing ideas and perspectives are presented” at public universities, and whether students “feel free to express beliefs and viewpoints on campus and in the classroom.”
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Though the bill does not specify what the survey results will be used for, both DeSantis and Rodrigues suggested that the state could institute budget cuts if university students and staff do not respond in a satisfactory manner.
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When pressed by reporters, the governor did not offer any specific examples of repression and discrimination faced by conservative students, simply saying that he knows “a lot of parents” who worry about their children being “indoctrinated” on campus.
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In addition to the survey, the bill also prevents officials from limiting campus speech that “may be uncomfortable, disagreeable or offensive” — a measure that, as Democrats in the state Legislature pointed out, will also make it easier for groups like the KKK or the Proud Boys to hold events on campus. (Salon)

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Mike Lamb  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:04:07am

re: #194 Belafon

Because she was “delivering” a baby, not aborting it? I really don’t get the point.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:04:48am

re: #196 Teddy’s Person

In addition to the survey, the bill also prevents officials from limiting campus speech that “may be uncomfortable, disagreeable or offensive” — a measure that, as Democrats in the state Legislature pointed out, will also make it easier for groups like the KKK or the Proud Boys to hold events on campus.

Feature, not a bug.

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JC1  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:05:40am

re: #192 Eclectic Cyborg

The poll reflects the messaging and focus of mainstream media. The more they focus on inflation and gas prices, the more they are on peoples minds and the more likely those people are to identify them as major concerns in a survey like this.

Also, the poll was conducted between june 23rd and 27th. The peak of gas prices. The Dobbs decision came down on June 24th, so partially not reflected.
In the same poll Biden’s approval is in the basement, but dems have a slight preference for congressional control.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:08:42am

Lolz. She gave a name to a clump cells. FFS, forced birthers really are idiots. Every time my dog defecates, I am going to name it.

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:09:24am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:09:37am

re: #188 Mike Lamb

WTF am I reading?

Leah thinks it’s not an abortion if she calls it “delivering a baby”…

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JC1  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:09:45am

re: #195 danarchy

That is crap, the poll reflects that people are more concerned with putting food on the table, gas in their car and paying the rent today than they are about something that may or will almost certainly happen years down the line. The media could not say word one about inflation and it woudn’t matter. Everyone knows it is happening, they just need to buy groceries to know it.

Nah, media amplification plays a role. If you don’t believe that then look at how issues like immigration gain and lose importance in stride with coverage of scary caravans. Gasoline prices very likely peaked already and will be significantly lower in the fall, unless Russia goes full retard and stops exports.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:10:05am
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JC1  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:11:55am

re: #200 Dr. Matt

Lolz. She gave a name to a clump cells. FFS, forced birthers really are idiots. Every time my dog defecates, I am going to name it.

My very Catholic aunt named a miscarriage and still celebrates its ‘birthday’ 30 years later. She has a few fully grown children.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:12:24am

re: #204 Crush White Nationalism

I agree. The main reason why I am on line is that my neighbors were shooting off fire crackers at 3 AM. In other words I got little or no sleep.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:12:28am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:12:57am

re: #197 Mike Lamb

Because she was “delivering” a baby, not aborting it? I really don’t get the point.

It may be more a matter of a woman who desperately wanted a child and discovered that it was not viable. She may have just wanted compassion from the doctor and understanding of her feeling of loss. A doctor may be excellent at diagnosis and treatment but fail in offering empathy to someone who is devastated by the doctor’s analytic words in describing what she is facing. She wanted kindness and many doctors are not good at providing that to their patients.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:14:08am

re: #206 PhillyPretzel

I agree. The main reason why I am on line is that my neighbors were shooting off fire crackers at 3 AM. In other words I got little or no sleep.

One of my idiot neighbors started setting off what sounded like M80s at 11pm.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:14:18am
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:15:25am

re: #209 Crush White Nationalism

Same here in NE Philly.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:16:17am

re: #196 Teddy’s Person

In addition to the survey, the bill also prevents officials from limiting campus speech that “may be uncomfortable, disagreeable or offensive” — a measure that, as Democrats in the state Legislature pointed out, will also make it easier for groups like the KKK or the Proud Boys to hold events on campus.

Feature not a bug.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:16:26am

re: #206 PhillyPretzel

I agree. The main reason why I am on line is that my neighbors were shooting off fire crackers at 3 AM. In other words I got little or no sleep.

My problem was that we had nature’s “fireworks” last night — lightning, thunder, and torrents of rain.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:17:01am

In about 12 seconds the Trumporrhoids will amp up their yammering about “Drag Queen Story Hour”

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:21:48am

re: #212 Eclectic Cyborg

Way ahead of you. But apparently, great minds think alike.

re: #198 Dopamine Fish

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darthstar  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:23:46am

This is what I call air defense.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:31:06am

Also, notice how the drooling moran in the pictured tweet didn’t mention anything about being literally an hour’s drive from some of the most lax gun laws in the country, where he very well could have bought the rifle that morning, for all we know.

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Captain Ron  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:32:21am
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Dangerman  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:33:13am
Matt Labash: “For as long as he’s been a public self-servant, the towel boy who served as Donald Trump’s fourth and last chief of staff has been a professional sleazebag

It goes downhill from there
Including
If Meadows were a color, he’d be beige.
Blessed with the pleasantly dishonest face of a swampland timeshare hustler
And
the sinisterness equivalent of a white noise machine.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:35:21am

re: #217 Dopamine Fish

Also, notice how the drooling moran in the pictured tweet didn’t mention anything about being literally an hour’s drive from some of the most lax gun laws in the country, where he very well could have bought the rifle that morning, for all we know.

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The real issue is that these AR-15s and large capacity magazines not only have to be outlawed for future purchases but they have to be removed from those who have them today unless they can satisfy the same rules that currently apply for fully automatic weapons. We need a sea change in attitude and the GOP refuses to cooperate.

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Dangerman  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:36:05am

re: #196 Teddy’s Person

DeSantis throws more red meat to the base in anticipation of his 2024 presidential run. At this point, he’s got to be the J6 committee’s biggest fan, particularly with media focus on Trump’s temperament.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:38:06am
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Teukka  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:38:15am

re: #204 Crush White Nationalism

File under “Never ever piss TV journo’s off”, yes?

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Dangerman  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:39:49am

re: #217 Dopamine Fish

Also, notice how the drooling moran in the pictured tweet didn’t mention anything about being literally an hour’s drive from some of the most lax gun laws in the country, where he very well could have bought the rifle that morning, for all we know.

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“strictest” is doing a lot of work here its not authorized to do

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Teukka  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:41:28am

re: #222 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:41:35am

re: #221 Dangerman

If I lived in Florida and had money and free time, I would register as a student with the sole purpose of interfering with that new law.

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EstebanTornado1963  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:41:52am

re: #214 The Pie Overlord!

That and his dyed hair prove he’s a liburl

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danarchy  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:42:04am

re: #217 Dopamine Fish

Also, notice how the drooling moran in the pictured tweet didn’t mention anything about being literally an hour’s drive from some of the most lax gun laws in the country, where he very well could have bought the rifle that morning, for all we know.

Just an FYI, the gun used in the shooting was purchased in the “chicago area”

A rifle used in the massacre and recovered at the scene had been purchased in the Chicago area, Deputy Chief Christopher Covelli of the Lake County Sheriff’s Office said at a news conference. Officials found another rifle in the suspect’s vehicle after apprehending him, Covelli said, adding that there were firearms at his residence as well.

The weapons were legally purchased from separate locations, Covelli said.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:42:11am

re: #225 Teukka

Yet another parallel to America’s largest Cheeto.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:43:00am

re: #225 Teukka

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:43:19am

re: #228 danarchy

Just an FYI, the gun used in the shooting was purchased in the “chicago area”

“The Chicago area” is quite large, and includes parts of Indiana. I’m not ruling out that the gun was purchased legally in Illinois, especially considering that the authorities also said this was planned out weeks in advance, but there isn’t any evidence so far to judge either way.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:44:29am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:45:18am
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Dangerman  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:45:44am

re: #226 Belafon

If I lived in Florida and had money and free time, I would register as a student with the sole purpose of interfering with that new law.

Even if students can somehow be compelled, they don’t have to be accurate or truthful

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:45:58am
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Teukka  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:45:59am

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

When you’ve lost Larry…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:46:00am

re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yep. Johnson will be like Trump and Bibi and throw a major fucking fit on his way out the door.

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danarchy  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:46:27am

re: #231 Dopamine Fish

“The Chicago area” is quite large, and includes parts of Indiana. I’m not ruling out that the gun was purchased legally in Illinois, especially considering that the authorities also said this was planned out weeks in advance, but there isn’t any evidence so far to judge either way.

Pretty sure if a local LEO could have pointed an accusing finger at a neighboring state he would have.

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Dangerman  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:47:23am

re: #228 danarchy

Just an FYI, the gun used in the shooting was purchased in the “chicago area”

“The weapons were legally purchased from separate locations, Covelli said.”

Because that’s how serious and responsible gun enthusiasts behave

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:48:45am
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sizzzzlerz  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:49:11am

re: #58 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My wife just pointed out Laura Loomer is the equivalent of “more Catholic than the Pope.”

Apropos of nothing, this brings up a scene from the first episode of season three of the HBO show, Succession. Cousin Greg is monitoring social media for Kendall and he reports that the Pope is following Kendall on Twitter. Kendall expresses surprise and Greg pulls back a little by stating “Yes, the Pope. Well, a pope, anyway.”.

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Dangerman  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:49:27am

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I trust Fulton county figured out first how they’re gonna handle being ignored

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:49:46am

re: #238 danarchy

Pretty sure if a local LEO could have pointed an accusing finger at a neighboring state he would have.

Maybe, but the term “Chicago area” as used in local media tends to refer to that whole corner of Illinois, plus Lake and parts of Porter County in Indiana. Like I said: I can be quite wrong about my belief that the gun in question was brought over the state line. It’s not impossible to buy a gun in Illinois.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:51:39am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:54:55am

re: #203 JC1

Nah, media amplification plays a role. If you don’t believe that then look at how issues like immigration gain and lose importance in stride with coverage of scary caravans. Gasoline prices very likely peaked already and will be significantly lower in the fall, unless Russia goes full retard and stops exports.

Remember also that for rural families, gas and groceries are major items in the budget, taking up a much larger share than in urban areas with higher average incomes

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:57:00am

re: #214 The Pie Overlord!

The gunman who targeted an Independence Day parade in suburban Chicago fired more than 70 rounds and evaded initial capture by blending into the fleeing crowd while disguised in women’s clothing, police said Tuesday.

“This goes to prove how dangerous transvestites are to America!”

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JC1  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:57:31am

This is interesting. Joe Rogan says that he won’t have Trump on as a guest because he doesn’t want to help him.

I listened to the podcast with Lex Fridman. Actually decent overall, with the exception of the whole ‘Biden’s mental decline’ bit. But he was unambiguously anti Trump. Wonder how many fans he’ll lose as a result.

mediaite.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:58:43am

re: #226 Belafon

If I lived in Florida and had money and free time, I would register as a student with the sole purpose of interfering with that new law.

He will find out what a fucktwaddle grandstanding law like that will result in when people start trolling it (within the meaning and language of the law)

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Dangerman  Jul 5, 2022 • 10:59:43am
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Dangerman  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:00:20am

re: #246 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“This goes to prove how dangerous transvestites are to America!”

Ban women’s clothing

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:01:48am
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Dopamine Fish  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:01:57am

re: #250 Dangerman

Ban women’s clothing

No, no, you’re not thinking right-wing enough. Ban MEN from wearing women’s clothing. Anyone who buys women’s clothing must be ruthlessly investigated to ensure that they are a biological female before the sale is allowed to proceed. Men who are caught wearing women’s clothing should be convicted of a felony.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:02:05am

re: #250 Dangerman

Ban women’s clothing

What about female transvestites?

Ban all clothing!

Buck Nekkid America!!!

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:05:39am

re: #225 Teukka

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I am sure the opposition will find those conditions acceptable.

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Mattand  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:05:44am

re: #196 Teddy’s Person

DeSantis throws more red meat to the base in anticipation of his 2024 presidential run. At this point, he’s got to be the J6 committee’s biggest fan, particularly with media focus on Trump’s temperament.

How the fuck does this meet any legal or ethical standard? Even by FL standards?

This is straight up Nazi shit right here.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:06:27am

Reminds me of this:

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danarchy  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:06:35am

re: #253 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

What about female transvestites?

Ban all clothing!

Buck Nekkid America!!!

Speaking as someone from a part of the country where winter is cold I am going to have to veto that. Also, as someone who really doesn’t want to see 95% of the people in this country, or any country, naked.

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JC1  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:09:43am

re: #255 Mattand

How the fuck does this meet any legal or ethical standard? Even by FL standards?

This is straight up Nazi shit right here.

It’s not what the law actually states, at least according to fact checkers (I didn’t bother following up with it). Doubt it’s accurate, as it would be clearly illegal, even with this SCOTUS.

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Dangerman  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:10:41am
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Dangerman  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:12:42am

re: #252 Dopamine Fish

No, no, you’re not thinking right-wing enough. Ban MEN from wearing women’s clothing. Anyone who buys women’s clothing must be ruthlessly investigated to ensure that they are a biological female before the sale is allowed to proceed. Men who are caught wearing women’s clothing should be convicted of a felony.

Men can’t control themselves. So they keep saying
Its always the women’s fault

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:13:29am

re: #255 Mattand

How the fuck does this meet any legal or ethical standard? Even by FL standards?

This is straight up Nazi shit right here.

He is just posturing as a defender of “Free Speech” against “woke tyranny” and “cancel-cultural Marxism”.

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Dangerman  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:13:31am

re: #255 Mattand

How the fuck does this meet any legal or ethical standard? Even by FL standards?

This is straight up Nazi shit right here.

It doesn’t
My guess is no one could challenge it till he signed it

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:14:13am

re: #260 Dangerman

Men can’t control themselves. So they keep saying
Its always the women’s fault

They have their justification in the Bible

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Dangerman  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:18:45am
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Captain Ron  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:19:28am
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Teukka  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:21:04am

re: #256 The Pie Overlord!

Reminds me of this:

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All hands, brace for TERF invasion of social media!

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Florida Panhandler  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:26:13am

re: #262 Dangerman

It doesn’t
My guess is no one could challenge it till he signed it

DeSantis is definitely going to run 100%. And he will beat Trump as he continues to play both sides. DeSantis just signed the fascist Thoughtcrime bill survey, but he also signed a seemingly left-leaning bill expanding college tuition eligibility assistance to teens working traditional jobs instead of just volunteer work. Of course with DeSantis, there is an anterior motive of then using the envisioned “purified” Florida state colleges to promote right wing fascism once they are in school, but as of now this legislation will help poorer students in their college efforts.

But make no mistake, DeSantis is a more refined, disciplined fascist who will use populism on both sides to achieve his goals of personal power.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:26:18am

and Lindsey

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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:29:47am
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Dangerman  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:30:03am

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:30:37am

re: #267 Florida Panhandler

DeSantis is definitely going to run 100%. And he will beat Trump as he continues to play both sides. DeSantis just signed the fascist Thoughtcrime bill survey, but he also signed a seemingly left-leaning bill expanding college tuition eligibility assistance to teens working traditional jobs instead of just volunteer work. Of course with DeSantis, there is an anterior motive of then using the envisioned “purified” Florida state colleges to promote right wing fascism once they are in school, but as of now this legislation will help poorer students in their college efforts.

But make no mistake, DeSantis is a more refined, disciplined fascist who will use populism on both sides to achieve his goals of personal power.

Have to remind people that Hitler courted the unions until the day he took power.

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:30:54am
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Crush White Nationalism  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:31:39am
Documentary filmmaker Alex Holder revealed that he has been provided “two armed guards” for protection following a subpoena for materials from the Jan. 6 committee.

Holder, a British filmmaker, was subpoenaed by the committee in regard to footage and interviews Holder and his team shot throughout the production of Unprecedented, a documentary film on Trump and his inner circle during the 2020 presidential campaign. Holder confirmed that he and his team are cooperating fully with the committee.

In a Wednesday interview with BBC, Holder detailed that since the revelation of his cooperation with the committee, he has been assigned a security detail that “follow me around everywhere,” and that he has become the subject of various conspiracies. “According to some, I’m an undercover FBI agent, some think I’m an MI6 spy, and there’s all sorts of conspiracies and threats that are coming through,” he told the BBC.

Jan. 6 Filmmaker Now Has Armed Guards Following Him ‘Everywhere’ (Rolling Stone)

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Crush White Nationalism  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:33:16am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:33:50am
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Dangerman  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:34:22am

re: #273 Crush White Nationalism

Jan. 6 Filmmaker Now Has Armed Guards Following Him ‘Everywhere’ (Rolling Stone)

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:36:39am

re: #272 jaunte

Did no one think they would win against her?

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Teukka  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:37:52am
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Captain Ron  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:37:52am
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Crush White Nationalism  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:38:24am

re: #272 jaunte

It’s Arizona. If you don’t spray Armor All on your head before going outside, your brain cracks in the sun.

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:38:44am

re: #276 Dangerman

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One way to fix that, Adam, would be to help pass voting rights legislation, and reduce the power extremists have on our government.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:39:19am

re: #269 lawhawk

Yes, because no one ever smoked weed before the last few years.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:39:37am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:40:34am
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Dopamine Fish  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:42:17am
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darthstar  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:42:26am
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Dangerman  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:43:33am

The NRA nails it

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darthstar  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:46:29am

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

After she got mocked she wrote “supposedly this is photoshopped”…ya think?

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:46:32am

re: #287 Dangerman

The NRA nails it

Yes, that’s the only reason. It has nothing to do with the French, who contributed their navy, professional soldiers, arms, and logistics. It has nothing to do with the Continental Army, which was a professional military organization that had trained with French and British military units. Literally none of that matters; the only thing that won the Revolutionary War for us is a bunch of kids out murdering civilians with AR-15’s.

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:46:48am

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I agree with Charlie about people trying to turn this place into a theocracy. I’m sure that’s what he meant, right?

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Teukka  Jul 5, 2022 • 11:48:18am

re: #276 Dangerman

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John Hughes  Jul 5, 2022 • 1:26:25pm

re: #91 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Tea Party is likewise founded on the notion that a freely and democratically elected federal government is no different than a hereditary monarchy.

On of the interesting causes of the American revolution was that, by 1776 the UK wasn’t a hereditary monarchy. It was a constitutional monarchy. Power was no longer in the hands of the king, but largely in the parliament. (That was a problem for the colonists because before the glorious revolution they had the same relation to power as anyone in England — they could petition the king and that was about it. After 1688 they were in a significantly inferior position — parliament ruled and the colonists had no representation in parliament. The “tyrant” wasn’t George III, it was parliament).

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jul 5, 2022 • 2:11:13pm

re: #224 Dangerman

“strictest” is doing a lot of work here its not authorized to do

And a textbook case of why kicking enforcement rules back to the state-level makes things quickly hit lowest common denominator levels since lax enforcement or laws in one state for things (or activities) that can easily cross state lines makes things about as lax in any surrounding state.


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