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Teukka  Jul 6, 2022 • 8:16:13pm

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austin_blue  Jul 6, 2022 • 8:24:52pm

Thought it was fascinating musically, but didn’t like it very much.

Just me. If it was your cup of tea, sorry.

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William Lewis  Jul 6, 2022 • 8:24:54pm

From downstairs:

re: #277 Rightwingconspirator

Just to relate a conversation about gun control and SCOTUS I had today. Back in the days of Bonnie and Clyde the Feds regulated full auto guns. As we know. Yet I see a lot of parallels in the problem from then until now.

The essential thing is those guns were too much in the hands of criminals for police to deal with. The AR and other semi-auto models today, it’s just too much killing horsepower to let run around.

This ain’t gonna happen but if they regulated certain assault rifle models like they do full auto, we satisfy certain legal angles and get a very specific handle on who has those guns.

It’s my feeling that we would have to make all semi-automatic firearms with detachable magazines class III weapons for that to work. I’d also say get rid of the Hughes Amendment and reopen the full auto registry as a carrot at the same time.

It would work, just as it did then, but even if it did get passed, how do we handle the gazillion rifles already out there? I’d certainly be fine with registering my AK and getting a tax stamp for it but you know the nutjobs would go nuts about it. Perhaps a freebe for the current owner - register and get your stamp and then if you sell it, the transfer tax would be applied? And it would have to be possible to do it much faster than it takes to currently register a short barrel rifle or transfer a MG. Sigh…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 6, 2022 • 8:26:04pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 6, 2022 • 8:27:11pm

I’m making haute cuisine since it’s dinner time.

Hamburger Helper, jazzed up with fresh mushrooms and onions.

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jaunte  Jul 6, 2022 • 8:27:32pm

re: #4 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air”

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William Lewis  Jul 6, 2022 • 8:35:03pm

re: #5 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m making haute cuisine since it’s dinner time.

Hamburger Helper, jazzed up with fresh mushrooms and onions.

The Beef Pasta box with corn added is my favorite. I should try some mushrooms sometime.

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austin_blue  Jul 6, 2022 • 8:40:16pm

re: #3 William Lewis

From downstairs:

It’s my feeling that we would have to make all semi-automatic firearms with detachable magazines class III weapons for that to work. I’d also say get rid of the Hughes Amendment and reopen the full auto registry as a carrot at the same time.

It would work, just as it did then, but even if it did get passed, how do we handle the gazillion rifles already out there? I’d certainly be fine with registering my AK and getting a tax stamp for it but you know the nutjobs would go nuts about it. Perhaps a freebe for the current owner - register and get your stamp and then if you sell it, the transfer tax would be applied? And it would have to be possible to do it much faster than it takes to currently register a short barrel rifle or transfer a MG. Sigh…

The problem is that almost every 5-round auto loading deer rifle would be affected.

I’ve got no problem with 5-round auto loading game rifles. I’ve got a 1938 Russian bolt action rifle. It’s an excellent deer gun. I can work the action nearly as fast as an auto-loading rifle.

But it’s the 5-round limit that makes the rifle a terrible weapon for mass shootings. It’s a pain-in-the-ass to shove another 5-round clip into the top of the rifle, with an open bolt, after the first clip pops out. Takes like four seconds. Plenty of time for effective counter fire. And then I’m dead. What fun is that?

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Belafon  Jul 6, 2022 • 8:44:04pm

re: #8 austin_blue

The problem is that almost every 5-round auto loading deer rifle would be affected.

I’ve got no problem with 5-round auto loading game rifles. I’ve got a 1938 Russian bolt action rifle. It’s an excellent deer gun. I can work the action nearly as fast as an auto-loading rifle.

But it’s the 5-round limit that makes the rifle a terrible weapon for mass shootings. It’s a pain-in-the-ass to shove another 5-round clip into the top of the rifle, with an open bolt, after the first clip pops out. Takes like four seconds. Plenty of time for effective counter fire. And then I’m dead. What fun is that?

A five round magazine could be five dead.

And this is the problem. Is there any need for any civilian to have anything faster than bolt or pump action? Because why is five better than six, and why is six better than seven?

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Jul 6, 2022 • 8:44:51pm

re: #5 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m making haute cuisine since it’s dinner time.

Hamburger Helper, jazzed up with fresh mushrooms and onions.

“I don’t know why they call this stuff hamburger helper. It does just fine by itself, huh? I like it better than tuna helper myself, don’t you, Clark?”

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austin_blue  Jul 6, 2022 • 8:56:18pm

re: #9 Belafon

A five round magazine could be five dead.

And this is the problem. Is there any need for any civilian to have anything faster than bolt or pump action? Because why is five better than six, and why is six better than seven?

This is the eternal question.

But I think we can all agree that 30-round mags are right out.

As are 15-round mags. And ten round mags. And six round mags.

Let’s all just agree on five round mags/clips, because, let’s face it, if you can’t hit your target with five shots, you shouldn’t be shooting at anything and you are not going to be helping to protect your civil rights against an evil government. You are just cannon fodder and are going to get your head shot off by the professional shooters you are going to be fighting.

You suck. They don’t.

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austin_blue  Jul 6, 2022 • 9:04:52pm

And off for the rack! Night all, sweet scaly dreams.

Oh and the peripatetic Gray Fox in the backyard looked up at me today while drinking from the Provided water source, stared, and then walked off. Cheeky Bastard.

Night all!

Sweet dreams and be nice to each other.

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Teukka  Jul 6, 2022 • 9:06:02pm

Ooops. Did Alex just tip his sides hand?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 6, 2022 • 9:06:35pm

Governor Death (Texas writer James Moore), July 3, 2022, somewhat long but well-worth the read.

The Political Disease Killing Texans

There is something disturbingly disconnected about the mind of Texas Governor Greg Abbott. Attempting to understand whether he is oblivious to his failures and contradictions or has profound, transcendent cynicism, is often a futile task. There are abundant signs he might even be consciously evil and completely devoid of the human emotion of sympathy. How else can his behavior be explained?

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Belafon  Jul 6, 2022 • 9:20:55pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 6, 2022 • 9:23:34pm

re: #13 Teukka

Ooops. Did Alex just tip his sides hand?

Wholly crap there is ten metric fuquetonnes of derp in the responses.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 6, 2022 • 9:24:31pm

“Good times”

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Belafon  Jul 6, 2022 • 9:26:10pm

How did I not know about this:

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ckkatz  Jul 6, 2022 • 9:34:22pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2022 • 9:35:35pm

re: #15 Belafon

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We live in a country where a grieving husband had to actually take a Texas hospital to court to get them to take his wife’s corpse off life support because the hospital’s lawyers argued that state law was so vague regarding whether or not the plug could be pulled on a deceased pregnant patient if the fetus was still “alive” that they insisted a brain-dead body had to be kept “alive” until the fetus expired or was delivered.

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Teukka  Jul 6, 2022 • 9:39:09pm

Pro-tip for aspiring conspiracy theorist bombers: Do not, I repeat do not, drive in a conspicuous way past CCTV cameras…

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William Lewis  Jul 6, 2022 • 9:42:41pm

re: #11 austin_blue

This is the eternal question.

But I think we can all agree that 30-round mags are right out.

As are 15-round mags. And ten round mags. And six round mags.

Let’s all just agree on five round mags/clips, because, let’s face it, if you can’t hit your target with five shots, you shouldn’t be shooting at anything and you are not going to be helping to protect your civil rights against an evil government. You are just cannon fodder and are going to get your head shot off by the professional shooters you are going to be fighting.

You suck. They don’t.

I’ll admit to a soft spot for an 8 round clip that make a nice loud PING after it’s empty… ;)

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ckkatz  Jul 6, 2022 • 9:43:45pm

A thread on why ammo dumps in Russian occupied Ukraine keep blowing up:

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TedStriker  Jul 6, 2022 • 9:44:41pm

re: #10 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

“I don’t know why they call this stuff hamburger helper. It does just fine by itself, huh? I like it better than tuna helper myself, don’t you, Clark?”

Youtube Video

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SerialUpDinger  Jul 6, 2022 • 9:45:56pm

The Guidestones as we remember them

From our visit after a lengthy drive thru North & South Carolina to get there. F&**in idiots!

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ckkatz  Jul 6, 2022 • 9:49:53pm

What heck is going on in the Netherlands?

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Teukka  Jul 6, 2022 • 9:54:08pm

re: #26 ckkatz

What heck is going on in the Netherlands?

When you track back these protests, you always find it either astroturfed, or you find groups of people which are shady to say the least. Conspiracy theorists galore. No exceptions. Ever wonder why relatively few have gained traction in Europe, despite no lack whatsoever trying?

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Belafon  Jul 6, 2022 • 9:55:51pm

re: #25 SerialUpDinger

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From our visit after a lengthy drive thru North & South Carolina to get there. F&**in idiots!

Direct line between Christian Nationalists and the Taliban.

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Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2022 • 9:56:14pm

re: #26 ckkatz

What heck is going on in the Netherlands?

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The same thing we’re going to see more and more in coming decades: Governments finally getting around to addressing ecological crises running right up against the assholes who’ve kept government from doing until there were crises that needed to be addressed.

In this case, the government decided that there needs to be a drastic reduction in nitrogen compound emissions and so have ordered a 30% reduction in the use of animal feeds that promote such and the usage of nitrogen-based fertilizers. The predictable response from farmers is that they can’t be as productive unless they can pollute freely and screaming that the government’s trying to ruin them.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 6, 2022 • 9:57:20pm

Wordle is killing me tonight.

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ckkatz  Jul 6, 2022 • 10:01:27pm

Debbie Lesko was taped in her talk saying that she would do anything to protect her 5 grandchildren, including shooting them…

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Teukka  Jul 6, 2022 • 10:01:33pm

re: #29 Targetpractice

The same thing we’re going to see more and more in coming decades: Governments finally getting around to addressing ecological crises running right up against the assholes who’ve kept government from doing until there were crises that needed to be addressed.

In this case, the government decided that there needs to be a drastic reduction in nitrogen compound emissions and so have ordered a 30% reduction in the use of animal feeds that promote such and the usage of nitrogen-based fertilizers. The predictable response from farmers is that they can’t be as productive unless they can pollute freely and screaming that the government’s trying to ruin them.

That as well. What’s irritating is that the farmers could make money off of the chicken guano that they now pollute the environment with. Like, the Russo-Ukrainan war has throttled fertilizer supply, and I believe that with a little help of Uni researchers (did I mention that the Netherlands has several nice ones?) they could come up with a process to use chicken guano as a raw material for domestically produced fertilizer.

It’s one of the facets which make be believe this may be astroturfed or some other shenanigans going on.

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jaunte  Jul 6, 2022 • 10:03:03pm
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ckkatz  Jul 6, 2022 • 10:04:10pm

re: #27 Teukka

re: #29 Targetpractice

Definitely crazy stuff. I do wonder how much has been imported from the US. (Or Russia, via the US.)

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Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2022 • 10:07:52pm

re: #32 Teukka

That as well. What’s irritating is that the farmers could make money off of the chicken guano that they now pollute the environment with. Like, the Russo-Ukrainan war has throttled fertilizer supply, and I believe that with a little help of Uni researchers (did I mention that the Netherlands has several nice ones?) they could come up with a process to use chicken guano as a raw material for domestically produced fertilizer.

It’s one of the facets which make be believe this may be astroturfed or some other shenanigans going on.

This sort of shit goes hand in hand: Assholes falling under government regulation look for an excuse for why their selfishness is not only legal but a “right,” which makes them ready targets for conspiracy theorists peddling BS about how the government is engaged in a shadowy conspiracy.

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ckkatz  Jul 6, 2022 • 10:08:31pm
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ckkatz  Jul 6, 2022 • 10:15:59pm

About Filipinos who fought for the US during WW2 and were promised citizenship:

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ckkatz  Jul 6, 2022 • 10:20:21pm

Apparently the DC “Trucker Convoy” is still around, kind of…

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Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2022 • 10:26:15pm

re: #36 ckkatz

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I notice nobody ever seems to be asking “Where’s all the teenagers?” After all, it’s been the line for literal decades of my life that nobody works in the service industry except teens/young adults. That’s how we justify paying such shitty wages with no benefits, that these are “entry level jobs,” that these are just “summer jobs” for teens making “spending money” or young adults who are on their probationary period before they start making “real money.” And that there’s such a glut of them in the summer that businesses can not only pick and choose who to hire, but they can fire somebody with the guarantee they’ll have a replacement the next day.

How can all this be true and there still be a “labor shortage”?//

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 6, 2022 • 10:45:51pm

Storms are passing just north of us.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 6, 2022 • 11:20:16pm

The latest on the UK’s government crisis, as Boris Johnson still stubbornly refuses to go. This morning, bright and early, the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland has resigned.

The big one would be if Priti Patel, the Home Secretary, dropped a resignation bomb. Then BoJo is well and truly fucked. But he’s also delusional enough to try and push on and possibly create a major constitutional crisis.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 6, 2022 • 11:28:02pm

Another one gone, and apparently it’s now up to 50 resignations. That’s a record.

Boris is prolly gonna try to do all these things by himself, LOL 😄

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Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2022 • 11:28:27pm

To work in the service industry during COVID was to be told you were “essential” and a “hero,” but you also weren’t worth more than minimum wage and could be replaced at a moment’s notice so “you should be happy you still have a job.”

To work in the service industry during COVID was to be told about how “vital” your place of business was in this time of panic and uncertainty, only for management and ownership to bend over backwards for entitled asshats who weren’t gonna cancel their summer vacation because “I booked it months ago!”

To work in the service industry during COVID was to watch companies that made all sorts of assurances pre-pandemic that health and safety are of top importance mumble about how there was no money in the budget for basic things like hand sanitizer, face masks, or face shields when people were getting sick left and right.

To work in the service industry during COVID was to have your employer who insisted that employee health is more important than profits give you all sorts of grief about testing positive because their business models of running with skeleton crews left absolutely no wiggle room if a single person got sick.

And to work in the service industry during COVID was to be assured again and again that your company cared about you, only for them to close your location and kick your ass to the curb as soon as their ledgers started bleeding red.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 6, 2022 • 11:32:52pm

They’re dropping like flies 😆

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Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2022 • 11:34:26pm

re: #42 Dr Lizardo

Another one gone, and apparently it’s now up to 50 resignations. That’s a record.

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Boris is prolly gonna try to do all these things by himself, LOL 😄

Boris is acting much like Trump did after the first impeachment, thinking that the party voting to keep him means that he’s bulletproof. He can’t face another vote of confidence for 12 months, the party members know this, so they’re stuck with him.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 6, 2022 • 11:35:16pm

I lost confidence in my ability to solve worldes. I resign, at least until tomorrow.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 6, 2022 • 11:39:39pm

re: #45 Targetpractice

Boris is acting much like Trump did after the first impeachment, thinking that the party voting to keep him means that he’s bulletproof. He can’t face another vote of confidence for 12 months, the party members know this, so they’re stuck with him.

The 1922 Committee, which governs the Conservative Party, is very likely to change the rules regarding that 12 months and allow for an internal no-confidence vote to be held pretty much immediately. It is certainly within their power to do so.

So Boris is not as safe as he might like to think he is. There’s a strong possibility that the 1922 Committee will say enough is enough (might even happen today, LOL), make the rule change, and that’s that. Boris wouldn’t survive such a vote.

At that point, Boris would have to go nuclear: Call a general election. This would be his Sampson Option - he knows he’s finished, but he’s gonna take the entire Conservative Party down with him.

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Teukka  Jul 6, 2022 • 11:40:44pm

[vent]
Good grief. Spend half an hour trying to explain to a pro-lifer that the reports of people being denied prescriptions because they “could be used for abortions” aren’t because DNC thugs got to the the doctors, pharmacists and associated lawyers, but because the laws are poorly written.

Just be aware that there is an active effort to blame the doctors, pharmacists etc. for the ill effects the various restrictive abortion laws will have on people not seeking abortions.
[/vent]

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Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2022 • 11:41:42pm

re: #47 Dr Lizardo

The 1922 Committee, which governs the Conservative Party, is very likely to change the rules regarding that 12 months and allow for an internal no-confidence vote to be held pretty much immediately. It is certainly within their power to do so.

So Boris is not as safe as he might like to think he is. There’s a strong possibility that the 1922 Committee will say enough is enough (might even happen today, LOL), make the rule change, and that’s that. Boris wouldn’t survive such a vote.

At that point, Boris would have to go nuclear: Call a general election. This would be his Sampson Option - he knows he’s finished, but he’s gonna take the entire Conservative Party down with him.

Yeah, I’ve seen comparisons of such a rule change to the 25A, that it would basically be the party admitting that Boris is no longer competent to remain in power and was forcibly removing it. It would not surprise me at all that, in the face of such a scenario, his response would to bring down the entire party in a fit of egotistical rage.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 6, 2022 • 11:46:21pm

re: #49 Targetpractice

Yeah, I’ve seen comparisons of such a rule change to the 25A, that it would basically be the party admitting that Boris is no longer competent to remain in power and was forcibly removing it. It would not surprise me at all that, in the face of such a scenario, his response would to bring down the entire party in a fit of egotistical rage.

“The UK Conservative Party is writhing in scandals and resignations. Why this is bad news for the Democratic Party in November.”—Not Politico.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 6, 2022 • 11:47:17pm

re: #50 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“The UK Conservative Party is writhing in scandals and resignations. Why this is bad news for the Democratic Party in November.”—Not Politico.

That’d be a great submission for the NY Times pitchbot.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 6, 2022 • 11:48:24pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 6, 2022 • 11:49:09pm

re: #51 Dr Lizardo

That’d be a great submission for the NY Times pitchbot.

I’m not on Twitter, so someone here who is can go ahead and take credit for my work. /s

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jul 6, 2022 • 11:54:37pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 6, 2022 • 11:55:01pm

The UK’s Pensions Minister, Guy Opperman, has just resigned. Another one, and it’s not even 8 a.m. in London. 😄

It’s gonna be a long day

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 7, 2022 • 12:03:11am

re: #52 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“We can trust the biological science that creates seedless watermelons, but not the biological science that creates vaccines. But we do trust the biological science which creates vaccines for our livestock.”

Irony is so dead, it’s being beaten like a dead horse.

Beating a Dead Horse
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Teukka  Jul 7, 2022 • 12:09:15am

Another one…

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 12:12:57am

Lord Frost here is the former Brexit minister. Regardless of what you may think about Brexit and its ramifications, Lord Frost is a Tory grandee and a former ambassador.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 12:13:36am

Another one gone….

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jul 7, 2022 • 12:14:28am

re: #56 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“We can trust the biological science that creates seedless watermelons, but not the biological science that creates vaccines. But we do trust the biological science which creates vaccines for our livestock.”

Irony is so dead, it’s being beaten like a dead horse.

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It is not only dead, it’s been cremated and Rand Paul is smoking the ashes in his Aqua Buddha bong.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 12:15:04am

And yet another one…..

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Teukka  Jul 7, 2022 • 12:16:35am

re: #59 Dr Lizardo

Another one gone….

Special political operation proceeding exactly as planned. /S

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Targetpractice  Jul 7, 2022 • 12:19:28am

There’s a possible crisis brewing:

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jul 7, 2022 • 12:22:13am

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 12:41:36am

Could be the endgame for BoJo is coming soon….

Apparently, there’s a battle royale going on in No. 10 as to whether Boris should resign, as he no longer has any control over the Conservative party. He’s finished, for all intents and purpose….but there’s clearly still Tory voices telling him to go it alone, damn the torpedoes and full speed ahead, regardless of the consequences.

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Teukka  Jul 7, 2022 • 12:43:32am
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wrenchwench  Jul 7, 2022 • 12:46:03am

A wordle with a close resemblance.

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littlegreenfootballs.com

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 12:51:06am

This guy was appointed Chancellor of the Exchequer not even 36 hours ago 😆

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Teukka  Jul 7, 2022 • 12:54:32am

re: #68 Dr Lizardo

This guy was appointed Chancellor of the Exchequer not even 36 hours ago 😆

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Teukka  Jul 7, 2022 • 12:56:03am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 7, 2022 • 12:58:19am

“It is with great sadness that I step down from my post as Archbishop of Canterbury to pursue my dream of becoming an exotic dancer.”

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 12:58:48am

re: #70 Teukka

They’re falling like flies. I can’t imagine that Johnson will try to soldier on, not at this point, but then again, I’m not a megalomaniac.

He basically has no functioning government.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 7, 2022 • 1:00:19am

re: #72 Dr Lizardo

They’re falling like flies. I can’t imagine that Johnson will try to soldier on, not at this point, but then again, I’m not a megalomaniac.

He basically has no functioning government.

He is a megalomaniac and does not care about whether a government is functional, only that he is head of it.

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Teukka  Jul 7, 2022 • 1:00:46am

re: #72 Dr Lizardo

They’re falling like flies. I can’t imagine that Johnson will try to soldier on, not at this point, but then again, I’m not a megalomaniac.

He basically has no functioning government.

re: #73 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is a megalomaniac and does not care about whether a government is functional, only that he is head of it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 7, 2022 • 1:05:09am

What’s the count of resigned MPs now?

Someone should submit Boris Johnson’s government to the Guinness Book of World Records, and have them take the award to № 10.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 1:05:44am

re: #74 Teukka

I know the British PM serves at the pleasure of the Monarch.

In theory, can’t Queenie just order him to the palace, and say, “GTFO, you useless clown. Consider ‘my pleasure’ revoked”, or would that indeed spark a major constitutional crisis in the UK?

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Teukka  Jul 7, 2022 • 1:06:01am

So, if this one resigns, it means the entire Department of Education is gone…

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 1:07:03am

re: #75 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

What’s the count of resigned MPs now?

Someone should submit Boris Johnson’s government to the Guinness Book of World Records, and have them take the award to № 10.

53 have resigned thus far and one was fired last night (Michael Gove), and it’s just a little past 9 a.m. GMT. The day’s just getting started, LOL.

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Teukka  Jul 7, 2022 • 1:10:27am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 1:11:04am

Seeing rumors that PM Johnson has agreed to resign. He’ll be speaking to the nation by lunchtime, if not earlier.

Also, this is from the UK’s Defense Secretary:

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 1:11:47am

re: #80 Dr Lizardo

Wrong tweet - here’s the right one:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 7, 2022 • 1:14:39am

re: #80 Dr Lizardo

Seeing rumors that PM Johnson has agreed to resign. He’ll be speaking to the nation by lunchtime, if not earlier.

Also, this is from the UK’s Defense Secretary:

I keep seeing them put party before country in these resignations.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 1:18:10am

re: #82 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I keep seeing them put party before country in these resignations.

There’s now likely going to be a pretty intense debate within the Conservative party about whether it would really be such a good idea for Boris Johnson to remain in office until this autumn. Lord Frost, the former Brexit minister, has already gone on record saying he doesn’t think that’s sustainable.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 1:21:39am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 7, 2022 • 1:24:31am

bbc.com

Live broadcast from the BBC: Boris Johnson to resign today. Boris Johnson is expected to make a speech soon.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 7, 2022 • 1:24:43am

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Targetpractice  Jul 7, 2022 • 1:28:38am

Kevin Smith’s bank account must be empty…

Youtube Video

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 1:29:24am
Boris Johnson spoke to Sir Graham Brady, the chair of the Conservative backbench 1922 Committee, and agreed to stand down, No 10 sources are saying. The decision was reportedly taken at about 8.30am.

theguardian.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 7, 2022 • 1:36:17am

re: #88 Dr Lizardo

Boris Johnson spoke to Sir Graham Brady, the chair of the Conservative backbench 1922 Committee, and agreed to stand down, No 10 sources are saying. The decision was reportedly taken at about 8.30am.

They heard Elizabeth II shouting “Don’t make me come down there!!!”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 7, 2022 • 1:37:55am

Twitter is mischaracterising this thread.

People discuss gas prices in the state of California after reporter Jason Allen Tweeted a photo of a gas station with the caption ‘the ‘3’ is back’

twitter.com (Not in California)

Mostly what’s being discussed is destruction of women’s rights and fascism.

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Targetpractice  Jul 7, 2022 • 1:47:22am

Curious what it was that made Boris jump.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 7, 2022 • 1:55:14am

re: #91 Targetpractice

Curious what it was that made Boris jump.

These are conservatives. Shivs in the back are their specialty. My guess in all those private conversations at № 10 one or more have credible dirt on him.

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Targetpractice  Jul 7, 2022 • 1:57:05am

re: #92 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

These are conservatives. Shivs in the back are their specialty. My guess in all those private conversations at № 10 one or more have credible dirt on him.

I suspect it was more being told in no uncertain terms that he can either jump or be pushed, but if they have to push him and force a general election as a consequence, then whatever perks he might retain from the job will immediately disappear and they will got after him hammer and tongs.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 7, 2022 • 2:00:30am

re: #93 Targetpractice

I suspect it was more being told in no uncertain terms that he can either jump or be pushed, but if they have to push him and force a general election as a consequence, then whatever perks he might retain from the job will immediately disappear and they will got after him hammer and tongs.

How much damage would occur by defenestrating him out of the ground-floor windows of № 10?

The BBC is now going into horse race calculations between the Conservatives and Labour.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 7, 2022 • 2:13:18am

The textbook example of a Dick Move, but nothing less was to be expected;

BBC Breaking Headline

Johnson to resign as Tory leader but remain as PM until autumn

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Targetpractice  Jul 7, 2022 • 2:15:05am

re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The textbook example of the Dick Move, nothing less was to be exptected

BBC Breaking Headline

Johnson to resign as Tory leader but remain as PM until autumn

He has no frakkin’ government. Everybody’s resigned. What is he going to do, use hand puppets to conduct meetings?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 2:32:06am

re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The textbook example of a Dick Move, but nothing less was to be expected;

BBC Breaking Headline

Johnson to resign as Tory leader but remain as PM until autumn

An argument is breaking out in the Conservative Party about that:

That’s from the Tory chair of the Northern Ireland affairs committee.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 7, 2022 • 2:32:39am

re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The textbook example of a Dick Move, but nothing less was to be expected;

BBC Breaking Headline

Johnson to resign as Tory leader but remain as PM until autumn

Tories are saying that’s impossible. Several former ministers of Parliament are saying that he is acting like Donald Trump.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 7, 2022 • 2:35:14am

re: #98 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Tories are saying that’s impossible. Several former ministers of Parliament are saying that he is acting like Donald Trump.

It is the act of a three-year-old, stomping and shouting and refusing to leave the ball pit…

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 2:36:58am

British Foreign Secretary Liz Truss is cutting her trip to Indonesia short, and heading back to the UK.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 7, 2022 • 2:39:20am

re: #21 Teukka

Pro-tip for aspiring conspiracy theorist bombers: Do not, I repeat do not, drive in a conspicuous way past CCTV cameras…

That whole thread is full of conservaderp and conspiraderp.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 7, 2022 • 2:43:14am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 7, 2022 • 2:50:48am

The MPs are meeting in the House of Commons; some MPs are still arguing Mr. Johnson should stay on as caretaker. Others are arguing that’s ludicrous.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 7, 2022 • 2:52:44am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 7, 2022 • 2:53:44am

re: #102 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

So much anger over what was someone’s idea of a faux monument (erected for laughs?).

All I can surmise is that this kind of petty territorial/ideological angst is why we (humans) can’t have good things for very long.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 7, 2022 • 2:55:23am

re: #98 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Tories are saying that’s impossible. Several former ministers of Parliament are saying that he is acting like Donald Trump.

Again I ask, why can’t Liz just send BoJo to the Tower?

Her ancestors would have done that.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 7, 2022 • 3:00:11am

re: #106 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Again I ask, why can’t Liz just send BoJo to the Tower?

Her ancestors would have done that.

Perhaps we can get Justice Thomas to channel Matthew Hale to weigh in on that. That is certainly a deeply-rooted tradition in England.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jul 7, 2022 • 3:01:36am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 7, 2022 • 3:02:39am

re: #105 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So much anger over what was someone’s idea of a faux monument (erected for laughs?).

All I can surmise is that this kind of petty territorial/ideological angst is why we (humans) can’t have good things for very long.

Religious people have for thousands of years destroyed monuments or statues they hate (see all the Greek and Roman monuments defaced by Christians, or the Buddhist monuments destroyed by the Taliban).

That’s one reason conservatives (aside from their racism) are whinging about removal of Confederate monuments: They see it as liberals (and RINOs) acting in a religious manner.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 7, 2022 • 3:05:50am

re: #109 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

They see it as liberals (and RINOs) acting in a religious manner.

The whining right-wing are whining because they can’t tolerate losing the culture war, because:
1) for some of them awaits a literal hell if they sin and allowing wickedness to flourish is sin;
2) for others it is simply the realization that they (the atavists) have no where to hide.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 7, 2022 • 3:08:12am

The Independent slams the entire Tory party:

[…]

They backed Johnson through the Dominic Cummings scandal, through the resignations of two ethics advisers, through the scandal of a party donor paying for the decoration of his flat, through the mishandling of the pandemic and the mismanaging of Brexit with a rotten deal, Partygate and law breaking, an unlawful prorogation of parliament and breaking treaties and international law, allegedly trying to get Carrie a £100,000 job and Wilfred a £150,000 treehouse, depriving kids of free school dinners… and much, much more.

[…]

So, it’s not just Johnson who’s morally compromised, but the whole Tory party, with rare exceptions. They are all guilty men and women because they voted for him, campaigned for him, sustained him, lied for him and generally disgraced themselves and the country in the process. They were all members of the cult of Boris, and they knew exactly what he was.

It all sounds so familiar.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 7, 2022 • 3:08:51am

re: #109 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Religious people have for thousands of years destroyed monuments or statues they hate (see all the Greek and Roman monuments defaced by Christians, or the Buddhist monuments destroyed by the Taliban).

That’s one reason conservatives (aside from their racism) are whinging about removal of Confederate monuments: They see it as liberals (and RINOs) acting in a religious manner.

Nobody is blowing up those Confederate monuments, they are just asking for them to be removed from public property where they enjoy the cachet of official approval, or barring that, to add some sort of historical context on how and why they came to be erected there.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 7, 2022 • 3:14:29am

Don’t forget that Modern American Fundamentalist Christianity sees itself at war with Satanism and Paganism, and totally loses its shit at anything they perceive as a manifestation of such in the public sphere.

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Targetpractice  Jul 7, 2022 • 3:15:21am

re: #103 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The MPs are meeting in the House of Commons; some MPs are still arguing Mr. Johnson should stay on as caretaker. Others are arguing that’s ludicrous.

“His actions are horrible and we cannot abide him staying in power…longer than three months. He needs to go…eventually.”

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 3:18:12am

re: #113 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Don’t forget that Modern American Fundamentalist Christianity sees itself at war with Satanism and Paganism, and totally loses its shit at anything they perceive as a manifestation of such in the public sphere.

There’s an idea; on the site of the Georgia Guidestones, build a magnificent Satanic Temple and community center, a temple complex to rival Notre Dame Cathedral or the Vatican. With a 150-foot-tall bronze statue of Baphomet as a nice centerpiece.

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Dangerman (Namaste, bitches)  Jul 7, 2022 • 3:19:02am

re: #63 Targetpractice

There’s a possible crisis brewing:

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Admit it Larry
You’ve never needed a reason before

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 7, 2022 • 3:20:04am

re: #115 Dr Lizardo

There’s an idea; on the site of the Georgia Guidestones, build a magnificent Satanic Temple and community center, a temple complex to rival Notre Dame Cathedral or the Vatican. With a 150-foot-tall bronze statue of Baphomet as a nice centerpiece.

Don’t forget the Black Friday Sex Rituals

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 3:23:32am

re: #117 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Don’t forget the Black Friday Sex Rituals

Yeah, an orgy stadium would make a fine addition to the complex.

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Dangerman (Namaste, bitches)  Jul 7, 2022 • 3:24:04am

re: #78 Dr Lizardo

53 have resigned thus far and one was fired last night (Michael Gove), and it’s just a little past 9 a.m. GMT. The day’s just getting started, LOL.

I read that Big Ben is mulling whether to quit.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 7, 2022 • 3:26:09am

For those who didn’t see it, yesterday Amazon had another version of their teaser-trailer for Rings of Power floating around the internet.

Among other things was a couple of seconds of a clip of the (presumed) queen-in-waiting for Numenor.

Played by an actress with lovely rich skin.

There are, of course, those who object:

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 3:29:31am

re: #120 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

These people are aware that Tolkein’s writings are - in fact - fiction, aren’t they? That we’re not talking about a documentary film based on actual historical personages?

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Dangerman (Namaste, bitches)  Jul 7, 2022 • 3:30:23am

re: #108 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

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If you gotta debate it you’ve both already lost

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 3:38:16am
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William Lewis  Jul 7, 2022 • 3:38:33am

re: #120 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Heh.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 7, 2022 • 3:40:18am

re: #123 Dr Lizardo

BoJo wants to remain in power.

I wouldn’t put it past him to do a Trump and claim that the “election” (in this case the 1922 committee) was stolen.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 7, 2022 • 3:41:41am

re: #118 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, an orgy stadium would make a fine addition to the complex.

And an abortionplex.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 7, 2022 • 3:45:41am

re: #121 Dr Lizardo

These people are aware that Tolkein’s writings are - in fact - fiction, aren’t they? That we’re not talking about a documentary film based on actual historical personages?

JRR Tokien compressed thousands of years of “history” into a few hundred pages.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 7, 2022 • 3:46:12am

re: #121 Dr Lizardo

These people are aware that Tolkein’s writings are - in fact - fiction, aren’t they? That we’re not talking about a documentary film based on actual historical personages?

They are based on a history of a mythical ancient Europe: for that I have more problems with the presence of pumpkins, potatoes and tobacco, all imports from the Americas and unknown to ancient Europeans.

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William Lewis  Jul 7, 2022 • 3:50:48am

re: #128 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are based on a a history of a mythical ancient Europe: for that I have more problems with the presence of pumpkins, potatoes and tobacco, all imports from the Americas and unknown to ancient Europeans.

Tobacco? Here I thought Pipeweed was Cannabis sativa and that was why the hobbits had so many mealtimes - Munchies!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 7, 2022 • 3:52:29am

re: #117 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Don’t forget the Black Friday Sex Rituals

Sounds much better than crowds in shops throwing hands on Black Friday.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 7, 2022 • 3:52:44am

re: #129 William Lewis

Tobacco? Here I thought Pipeweed was Cannabis sativa and that was why the hobbits had so many mealtimes - Munchies!

I believe the LOTR annexes describe it as as being a variant of the genus Nicotina. The film makers just had a lot of fun playing with the notion of it being dope.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 7, 2022 • 3:58:34am

My wife suggested buying a Mustang convertible in mid-life crisis red, but we really don’t have the money for that. I countered with a Mercedes C-series convertible.

I think she’s looking at a Chevy Spark.

In the meantime, the tow truck will be here in a few hours to take my car to the auto-doc to see if the patient can be saved. Maxwell needs the prayer warriors activated so they can pray for the supply chain to come through with parts, and to restore the car to good health. Maybe I should set up a GoGriftMe account to show the sad state of the patient with photographs and a sad story about an evil Democratic demon elk unleashed on Maxwell from Chyna.

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TarHellion  Jul 7, 2022 • 4:02:12am

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Like making a 60-foot birdie putt! Kinda figured it would be up to its recent tricks. Have a great day/evening Lizards!

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 4:04:06am

LOL 😄

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 7, 2022 • 4:07:27am

re: #134 Dr Lizardo

LOL 😄

(2:01, original single version from 1958)

Youtube Video

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 7, 2022 • 4:09:34am

re: #134 Dr Lizardo

Yakety Sacks of Shit

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 4:10:57am

re: #135 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I think this is the version that was used as the closing credits music in The Benny Hill Show:

Youtube Video

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 7, 2022 • 4:14:46am

re: #128 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are based on a history of a mythical ancient Europe: for that I have more problems with the presence of pumpkins, potatoes and tobacco, all imports from the Americas and unknown to ancient Europeans.

And tomatos.

I do not agree that all of Middle Earth is intended to be Europe.

And even the parts that are undoubtedly intended to be England-inspired (the Shire, and Rohan) still do not demand that all actors have lily white skin.

First off, Tolkien’s fiction is a truly fantasy world.

Secondly, even in real life the first (modern human) Europeans had brown skin.

Then all the other parts of Middle-earth are more technically called “Arda”, which comes from the root world for which English has “Earth”.

And the Amazon show is not about the Shire or Rohan. It’s about the larger Arda.

There is simply no place for a whites-only sign to be put on such a show.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 7, 2022 • 4:18:19am

re: #138 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

a) by his own accounts, Tolkien was out to re-create the “lost epics” of European history

b) he did not actively exclude dark-skinned people, they just did not fit into the story as he was telling it

c) but nowhere did he say that no dark-skinned people should not be included

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 4:24:39am

Live Sky News here:

Youtube Video

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No Malarkey!  Jul 7, 2022 • 4:25:01am

re: #132 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My wife suggested buying a Mustang convertible in mid-life crisis red, but we really don’t have the money for that. I countered with a Mercedes C-series convertible.

I think she’s looking at a Chevy Spark.

In the meantime, the tow truck will be here in a few hours to take my car to the auto-doc to see if the patient can be saved. Maxwell needs the prayer warriors activated so they can pray for the supply chain to come through with parts, and to restore the car to good health. Maybe I should set up a GoGriftMe account to show the sad state of the patient with photographs and a sad story about an evil Democratic demon elk unleashed on Maxwell from Chyna.

After an idiot hit my parked truck last December, it took a couple of months for the parts to come in to fix it.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 7, 2022 • 4:27:50am

re: #32 Teukka

… chicken guano that they now pollute the environment with.

Over on freere public, “people” are making the brilliant comment that hurr-durr, atmosphere is mostly nitrogen, what is problem?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 7, 2022 • 4:28:46am

re: #142 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Over on freere public, “people” are making the brilliant comment that hurr-durr, atmosphere is mostly nitrogen, what is problem?

Nitrogen vs. Nitrates…oh forget it.

“Two-thirds of the molecules in the ocean are hydrogen, why doesn’t it blow up like the Hindenburg??”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 7, 2022 • 4:33:43am

re: #141 No Malarkey!

After an idiot hit my parked truck last December, it took a couple of months for the parts to come in to fix it.

With one of the four deer I’ve hit, one of them caused damage requiring repairs. The car had to be towed to a shop in Sterling, Colo. for that, and they had it several weeks awaiting parts. Meanwhile I was stuck with the rental land yacht Ford Expedition.

I’m off to bed. The tow guys will be here later.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 7, 2022 • 4:36:03am

For those who missed it, Boris Johnson just announced he will step down once the Tories have selected a new leader.

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Targetpractice  Jul 7, 2022 • 4:37:43am

re: #145 No Malarkey!

For those who missed it, Boris Johnson just announced he will step down once the Tories have selected a new leader.

Step down as party leader or as PM?

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No Malarkey!  Jul 7, 2022 • 4:44:38am

re: #146 Targetpractice

Step down as party leader or as PM?

Both. The new party leader will be the PM.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 4:46:07am

re: #147 No Malarkey!

Both. The new party leader will be the PM.

The Tory leadership battle is going to be an absolute bloodbath.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 4:47:18am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 4:50:52am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jul 7, 2022 • 5:07:24am
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jeffreyw  Jul 7, 2022 • 5:08:35am

pinto beans

Good morning!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2022 • 5:12:47am
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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2022 • 5:16:00am

re: #31 ckkatz

Shoot the hostage.

Youtube Video

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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2022 • 5:17:15am

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2022 • 5:20:11am

re: #146 Targetpractice

Step down as party leader or as PM?

Still image of the Tory meeting to select new leadership/PM:

#Tory party meeting
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John Hughes  Jul 7, 2022 • 5:20:22am

re: #106 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Again I ask, why can’t Liz just send BoJo to the Tower?

Her ancestors would have done that.

1688.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 5:21:32am

re: #155 lawhawk

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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2022 • 5:22:37am

What’s playing out now with Boris in the UK is what the GOP should have done with Trump after the first impeachment was delivered to the Senate, and definitely after 1/6 and the second impeachment.

But no, the party decided to go all in on Trumpism and paying fealty to a guy who has no loyalty to anyone but himself. The GOP will destroy the nation in pursuit of unlimited power, and denying power and rights to all others.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jul 7, 2022 • 5:26:14am
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Shropshire Slasher  Jul 7, 2022 • 5:27:12am
Apple has announced a new ‘Lockdown Mode’ for iPhones, iPads and Macs to protect against Pegasus-style cyber attacks.

Lockdown Mode is an optional protection for users who face ‘grave, targeted threats to their digital security’, like journalists and activists, Apple said.

When a device is in Lockdown Mode, apps, websites and features are restricted for security reasons, and others are completely disabled.
For example, most message attachment types in the Messages app other than images are blocked and other features, like link previews, are disabled.

Incoming invitations and service requests, including FaceTime calls, are blocked if the user has not previously sent the initiator a call or request.

The new mode also blocks access to an iPhone when it is connected to a computer or accessory.

Lockdown Mode will be released this autumn with iOS 16, the tech giant’s new software update, announced last month.

dailymail.co.uk

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jul 7, 2022 • 5:31:00am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 7, 2022 • 5:32:31am

re: #162 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

The CERN thing confused me so I had to look it up.

So CERN started up the LHC again but I guess people don’t know that CERN is the organization and the LHC is the device.

And people still don’t understand what the LHC does and does not do.

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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2022 • 5:34:37am

re: #163 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The CERN thing confused me so I had to look it up.

So CERN started up the LHC again but I guess people don’t know that CERN is the organization and the LHC is the device.

And people still don’t understand what the LHC does and does not do.

The LHC is the portal to the multiverse of madness.

No wait. It’s a gateway to hell, along the lines of the Event Horizon engine.

No. That’s not it. It’s a scientific device that helps identify particles that comprise atoms and the component parts.

No. That’s the cover story for fact that it caused the current timeline where everything sucks. /half

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 5:34:47am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jul 7, 2022 • 5:38:29am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 5:39:53am
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No Malarkey!  Jul 7, 2022 • 5:44:50am

re: #151 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

This is an interesting article about an analysis of countries that fall into civil war. They tend to be either countries emerging from full authoritarianism, so the military is loosing control (i.e., Yugoslavia in the nineties) or weakly democratic countries in which people organize themselves around an ethnic or cultural identity. The US is a middling democratic country with one political party organized around its racial and religious identity (white evangelicalism) which is recruiting and training militia members from the military and police in preparation for civil war.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2022 • 5:48:19am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2022 • 5:48:39am
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No Malarkey!  Jul 7, 2022 • 5:49:55am

Some of you may recognize this reference.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 7, 2022 • 5:52:51am

Another example of Russia following Hitler’s playbook, cultural expropriation.

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2022 • 5:53:33am

re: #163 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The CERN thing confused me so I had to look it up.

So CERN started up the LHC again but I guess people don’t know that CERN is the organization and the LHC is the device.

And people still don’t understand what the LHC does and does not do.

Maybe they think running it again will fix the timeline.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jul 7, 2022 • 5:54:23am

re: #158 Dr Lizardo

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 5:56:50am

re: #174 Crush White Nationalism

The UK is already experiencing the economic fallout from Brexit, and they were even before COVID-19 and the war in Ukraine. I expect that to only intensify in the years ahead.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 5:57:29am
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No Malarkey!  Jul 7, 2022 • 5:59:09am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 7, 2022 • 5:59:14am

re: #163 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

And people still don’t understand what the LHC does and does not do

Opens up interdimensional portals, right?

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No Malarkey!  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:00:19am

re: #178 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Opens up interdimensional portals, right?

Pretty sure I read that it could create a black hole which would swallow the planet.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:01:24am

HOLY SHIT.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:03:07am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:03:24am

re: #180 Dopamine Fish

Ouch.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:03:47am

Those ungrateful bastards!

Talk about a cost of living crisis! Adorable footage shows penguins refusing their feed after an aquarium in Japan tried to save money by changing to a cheaper type of fish.

The decision has not gone down well with the birds who can be seen in the video shaking their heads and turning their beaks away from the fish as staff do their best to feed them.

An aquarium employee attempts to lure the picky penguin to eat the treat by waving the fish in its face but to no avail. These penguins know what they want.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:06:07am

One of my double CERN postings was supposed to be this

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:07:13am

re: #184 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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No Malarkey!  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:07:49am
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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:11:34am

re: #165 Dr Lizardo

So, BoJo was just as sociopathic as Trump, just slightly more competent and slightly less egotistical maniac.

British govt slightly more responsive to existential threats due to corrupt, incompetent, and cruel leadership from within. Tories were willing to jettison BoJo while the GOP here in the US refuses to do anything of the kind despite the ongoing criminal conspiracies and crimes committed by Trump openly and flouting the rule of law.

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Dangerman (Namaste, bitches)  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:12:58am

OBGYNs keep coming back to how complicated and nuanced medical care is, and that these bills are written by people with NO medical background. For example…..OBGYN considers the beginning of a pregnancy when the egg implants….not when it is fertilized 6 to 12 days before.

So if people with no medical experience are writing medical laws, then we need atheists to craft laws governing religion.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:13:27am

re: #187 lawhawk

So, BoJo was just as sociopathic as Trump, just slightly more competent and slightly less egotistical maniac.

British govt slightly more responsive to existential threats due to corrupt, incompetent, and cruel leadership from within. Tories were willing to jettison BoJo while the GOP here in the US refuses to do anything of the kind despite the ongoing criminal conspiracies and crimes committed by Trump openly and flouting the rule of law.

BoJo isn’t the messiah of a heavily armed death cult.

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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:16:51am

re: #171 No Malarkey!

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:16:55am

re: #178 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Opens up interdimensional portals, right?

Well, with any luck, they can put Cthulhu back to bed to enjoy his deathless slumber in R’lyeh and things can start getting back to normal.

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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:19:17am
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No Malarkey!  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:19:45am

re: #190 lawhawk

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:19:53am
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Crush White Nationalism  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:22:19am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:23:02am

kinda sneaky

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Dangerman (Namaste, bitches)  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:23:10am

re: #192 lawhawk

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How could Biden have produced more oil domestically?

In the last 4 months, instantly?
Oh, and arent oil cos private businesses?

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:24:20am

Amazing with getting the first 3.

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Dangerman (Namaste, bitches)  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:27:26am

So Rs are talking g about “if” they take the house
…telling
and their plans?
J6 revenge hearings
Nationwide abortion ban (States rights my ass)

Nothing about actually helping the country or making things better at all

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Dangerman (Namaste, bitches)  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:30:29am

re: #199 Dangerman

So Rs are talking g about “if” they take the house
…telling
and their plans?
J6 revenge hearings
Nationwide abortion ban (States rights my ass)

Nothing about actually helping the country or making things better at all

You know, inflation and like that.

No, they’d rather mess with contraception and voting rights, book bans, lgbtq+ rights and other vital issues of the day

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Shropshire Slasher  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:34:46am

re: #199 Dangerman

So Rs are talking g about “if” they take the house
…telling
and their plans?
J6 revenge hearings
Nationwide abortion ban (States rights my ass)

Nothing about actually helping the country or making things better at all

The rumors of the Democrats losing both the House and Senate in the upcoming midterm elections have been wildly exaggerated.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:34:53am
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Dangerman (Namaste, bitches)  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:35:58am

Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter celebrate 76 years of marriage today!

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:36:10am

Now Boris can get back to painting wine boxes and crates to look like buses.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:40:35am
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Dangerman (Namaste, bitches)  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:43:43am
Washington Post: “In fact, the fees aren’t going to Trump’s political action committee, his $100 million war chest. This event was not a Trump rally, where attendance is free.”

“Instead, it was a for-profit show, more like a rock concert. The proceeds benefit Trump personally as part of a multimillion dollar deal to speak at the events

But something something Hillary Clinton Goldman sachs

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No Malarkey!  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:44:53am
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:45:51am

Read comments if you like silly puns:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:53:08am
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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:54:06am

re: #76 Dr Lizardo

I know the British PM serves at the pleasure of the Monarch.

In theory, can’t Queenie just order him to the palace, and say, “GTFO, you useless clown. Consider ‘my pleasure’ revoked”, or would that indeed spark a major constitutional crisis in the UK?

The beheading block and axe used in Tudor times are on display in the Tower of London.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:55:10am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:55:44am

re: #147 No Malarkey!

Both. The new party leader will be the PM.

What…just handing it to someone else without an election? Like….they inherit the job? How does that work?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:56:26am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:56:42am
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No Malarkey!  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:58:16am

re: #213 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What…just handing it to someone else without an election? Like….they inherit the job? How does that work?

In a parliamentary system, the Prime Minister isn’t directly elected by the people, he is elected by parliament. BoJo is resigning, so parliament will select a new PM. Since the Tories have the majority, once they have selected a new party leader, they will elect him PM, with the Queen’s ok of course, which is mostly ceremonial.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2022 • 6:58:42am

re: #213 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What…just handing it to someone else without an election? Like….they inherit the job? How does that work?

like VP taking over if President steps down.

Dominic Raab is Deputy PM, so it probably should be him in the interim until elections

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No Malarkey!  Jul 7, 2022 • 7:01:21am

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

like VP taking over if President steps down.

Dominic Raab is Deputy PM, so it probably should be him in the interim until elections

BoJo is refusing to step down until a new party leader is elected, so we’ll see.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2022 • 7:01:28am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 7, 2022 • 7:04:49am

re: #46 I Would Prefer Not To

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2022 • 7:07:29am
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Belafon  Jul 7, 2022 • 7:13:14am
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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 7, 2022 • 7:15:35am

Welp.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 7, 2022 • 7:16:56am

re: #216 No Malarkey!

In a parliamentary system, the Prime Minister isn’t directly elected by the people, he is elected by parliament. BoJo is resigning, so parliament will select a new PM. Since the Tories have the majority, once they have selected a new party leader, they will elect him PM, with the Queen’s ok of course, which is mostly ceremonial.

I should add, since the PM is almost always a member of the House of Commons, one group of voters do get to vote directly for or against them, the voters in their district, which in the UK is called a constituency. If the U.S. had a parliamentary system, Nancy Pelosi would be the PM and head of government, and Joe Biden, as President, would have a mostly ceremonial role as the head of state, like the Queen.

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 7, 2022 • 7:20:51am

re: #224 No Malarkey!

You can make the case, as a professor of mine did, that Reagan was a much better head of state, in the ceremonial sense, than a head of government. Now that we know the full extent of his leadership, tho…
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Renaissance_Man  Jul 7, 2022 • 7:23:59am

re: #213 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What…just handing it to someone else without an election? Like….they inherit the job? How does that work?

Under parliamentary systems you are technically voting for the party, not just your local rep. The party with the most seats gets to name their leader as prime minister. Leadership changes result in a new prime minister without an election, though an unpopular choice generally provokes a new election - since in parliamentary systems elections are not at fixed intervals, but can be called at certain events and within given timeframes - and an unpopular choice usually results in your party getting smashed.

Unlike in the US system, parliamentary systems often have big swings from election to election. Most also have independent commissions to prevent severe gerrymandering, so a party that can’t win a popular vote really can’t hold on to power.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 7, 2022 • 7:27:27am

re: #133 TarHellion

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John Hughes  Jul 7, 2022 • 7:28:49am

re: #164 lawhawk

What most people don’t know about the LHC is that it caused Putin, Trump and Johnson in this universe, but project TROLLEY proved that it made them vanish in all other universes.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 7, 2022 • 7:30:30am

If memory serves, the LHC allows chemical elements to be essentially slammed into each other at EXTREMELY high speeds, no?

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No Malarkey!  Jul 7, 2022 • 7:31:29am

If these audits were retaliatory, that is some gratitude shown by Trump to Comey, who probably got Trump elected President due to his October surprise announcement of the reopening of his email investigation.

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John Hughes  Jul 7, 2022 • 7:36:54am

re: #213 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What…just handing it to someone else without an election? Like….they inherit the job? How does that work?

Prime minister, like any other minister, is not an elected office in the UK.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jul 7, 2022 • 7:39:05am
When Vanessa Brangi, a 37-year-old in New Jersey, visited her mom to celebrate her 65th birthday over the last weekend in June, she didn’t hide that she was in a bad mood.

“I walked in the house, and she’s like, ‘How are you?’ ” Brangi remembered. “I flat-out said, ‘I guess I’m not a free person anymore.’ “

Brangi was bemoaning the Supreme Court’s decision to overrule Roe v. Wade in the days prior. Politics have frequently been a source of strife between her and her right-leaning mother, but this time, her mother surprised her.

“When she said, ‘I agree. I think women need to be the one to make this choice,’ I was honestly shocked,” Brangi said. “I thought she was pretty far gone.”

Brangi is one of many twenty- and thirtysomethings around the country who have seen a different side of their mothers in the days since the Supreme Court struck down Americans’ constitutional right to an abortion. More used to avoidance and disagreement about politics, some liberal adult kids are finding that their conservative mothers are actually in agreement with them when it comes to abortion—in some cases so staunchly that they’re reconsidering how they’re voting.

“She actually legitimately seems mad that her granddaughters could enter adulthood not being able to make these choices.”
— Vanessa Brangi

Take it from Chad, a 23-year-old in Arkansas who didn’t want to use his last name. “Two weeks ago, we had a conversation about—I think it was the Jan. 6 commission,” he said of his mom, who is 58. “She threw out the comment of, ‘Not all Republicans are bad.’ And now two weeks later, she’s telling me she’s probably never going to vote for another Republican, even in our state.”

“My whole family’s never really been political or outspoken in any way,” Chad said. But the day the Dobbs ruling came down, “once the topic came up, she kind of went all in on being upset at these justices and Asa Hutchinson and all these folks who are running right now in Arkansas,” he said, referring to the state’s governor. “She’s upset about abortion but also what it could mean for the future. She has two daughters, both of my sisters, so I think she’s upset about just what it means for other women.”

The Republican Moms Apologizing to Their Liberal Kids (Slate)

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No Malarkey!  Jul 7, 2022 • 7:41:40am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 7, 2022 • 7:42:44am

re: #111 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The Independent slams the entire Tory party:

It all sounds so familiar.

TBF — it’s not really a cult. They all agree with his policies and thought he would be the most effective spokesperson, after Theresa May was forced to leave. Unlike Trump, he knows history, politics, and issues. He’s scum but not ignorant scum.

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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2022 • 7:43:02am

re: #229 Eclectic Cyborg

LHC takes protons and slams them against each other. It uses superconducting magnets to whip protons to near light speed at each other and they collide within sets of detectors that identify the resulting explosions and the detritus - particles that make up the protons. The higher the energy of the collider, the more particles that can be created.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 7, 2022 • 7:44:14am

re: #112 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nobody is blowing up those Confederate monuments, they are just asking for them to be removed from public property where they enjoy the cachet of official approval, or barring that, to add some sort of historical context on how and why they came to be erected there.

Conservatives support these monuments because they are a symbol of their beliefs of how this country should operate.

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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2022 • 7:49:01am

re: #232 Crush White Nationalism

We (and by we, I mean most Democrats) have been warning about this very thing for years. We said this would happen if Trump were to enter office, and run his extremists to SCOTUS, and that’s precisely what happened. All the naysayers who claimed this was hysteria were wrong. Like so completely wrong that the naysayers should never be trusted again on any opinion they hold. It was so predictable that this would be the outcome, that those naysayers should be run from their punditry.

Of course, those same pundits will claim that Democrats are doing nothing - a lie - or move on to the next bit of punditry where they’re wrong again with no consequences.

States like NY and NJ and CA are moving to protect women’s rights, and access to health care that includes abortions, as well as protecting women who come to NJ from other states’ overreach.

Mind you, all those protections might be undone by this same SCOTUS, but we’ll have to cross that bridge when we get to that (and the naysayers will again claim that SCOTUS would never do something like that, but this Court’s extremist bench has repeatedly shown no interest in following the rule of law or precedent when invoking their policy preferences by legislating from the bench and invalidating decades (or a century’s worth) of law and jurisprudence by fiat.

This is the court that would make the modern equivalent of fugitive slave laws to deny women access to health care.

Fuck them, fuck the pundits, and naysayers about how the GOP and these fucking Christian fascists are going to ruin lives and deny people their rights. They’ve done it already, and will keep doing it.

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2022 • 7:51:28am
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ckkatz  Jul 7, 2022 • 7:53:42am

re: #235 lawhawk

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Crush White Nationalism  Jul 7, 2022 • 7:55:30am

That’s a really bad combination.

For the first time, Hayden Panettiere is opening up about a secret addiction to opioids and alcohol that nearly cost her career — and her life.

“I was on top of the world and I ruined it,” the former Nashville star, 32, says in the new issue of PEOPLE. She spent years battling her addiction, as well as a devastating bout with postpartum depression. “I’d think I hit rock bottom, but then there’s that trap door that opens.”

Eventually, Panettiere — who shares a 7-year-old daughter, Kaya, with her ex, Wladimir Klitschko — was determined to get help. “I put a lot of work into myself and I had to be willing to be incredibly honest,” says the actress, who underwent both trauma therapy and inpatient treatment within the last year. Now she’s returned to set to reprise her fan-favorite character Kirby Reed in the next Scream film, and she’s pouring her heart into her work with Hoplon International, the charity she founded in March whose mission it is to raise funds for Ukraine as the country endures its fifth month of war with Russia.

“This hasn’t been easy and there were a lot of ups and downs,” says Panettiere of her journey to sobriety and happiness. “But I don’t regret even the ugliest things that have happened to me. I feel incredibly accomplished. And I feel like I have a second chance.”

Hayden Panettiere Reveals Addiction to Opioids and Alcohol: ‘I Was in a Cycle of Self-Destruction’ (People)

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Florida Panhandler  Jul 7, 2022 • 7:56:15am

re: #179 No Malarkey!

Pretty sure I read that it could create a black hole which would swallow the planet.

Here is a very good daily science digest YouTube channel that describes what the LHC can and cannot do in regards to black holes.

Youtube Video

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jul 7, 2022 • 7:59:11am

re: #138 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

And tomatos.

I do not agree that all of Middle Earth is intended to be Europe.

And even the parts that are undoubtedly intended to be England-inspired (the Shire, and Rohan) still do not demand that all actors have lily white skin.

First off, Tolkien’s fiction is a truly fantasy world.

Secondly, even in real life the first (modern human) Europeans had brown skin.

Then all the other parts of Middle-earth are more technically called “Arda”, which comes from the root world for which English has “Earth”.

And the Amazon show is not about the Shire or Rohan. It’s about the larger Arda.

There is simply no place for a whites-only sign to be put on such a show.

I’m not suggesting that it should affect the casting decisions in the current show, but there is no question that Tolkien’s original intention was to create a mythology for England, and he noted (and changed where he could — tobacco became pipe-weed, for example) anachronisms in his work. It simply doesn’t matter what color they were, then or now — except to crazy white supremacists who mix a perverted version of Tolkien with Nazi ideology for their world view.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jul 7, 2022 • 8:03:39am

re: #152 jeffreyw

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sagehen  Jul 7, 2022 • 8:06:24am

re: #240 Crush White Nationalism

That’s a really bad combination.

Hayden Panettiere Reveals Addiction to Opioids and Alcohol: ‘I Was in a Cycle of Self-Destruction’ (People)

save the cheerleader, save the world.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jul 7, 2022 • 8:06:58am
You could not ask for a sadder display of how America’s gun culture has begun to whittle away our other freedoms than the attack on the Fourth of July celebration in Highland Park, Illinois.

A 21-year-old man with an assault rifle opened fire on the parade, killing seven spectators and orphaning a 2-year-old boy. Three dozen people were injured, hundreds are in mourning, and thousands will never celebrate Independence Day the same way again.

While Highland Park captured the most media attention, all in all, 220 Americans were shot and killed over the holiday weekend. That doesn’t include five people who survived being shot during the fireworks after an Oakland A’s game—hit by stray, apparently celebratory bullets from a high-powered rifle fired outside the ballpark. Or two police officers shot—again perhaps by accident—at the Fourth of July fireworks display in Philadelphia. In a grim, resigned statement that seemed to sum up the bloody holiday, Mayor Jim Kenney said, “We live in America, and we have the Second Amendment, and we have the Supreme Court of the United States telling everybody they can carry a gun wherever they want. This is what we have to live with.”

It feels like an inflection point in the balance between the right to bear arms and the right to, well, do just about anything else. The triumph of guns is throttling American public life, chipping away at our experience of school, shopping, protest, celebration, debate, electoral politics, and even the writing of laws.

You’d be hard-pressed to find an institution in this country that isn’t buckling under the weight of a gun fetish that has seen domestic firearms production triple since 2000 and a steady rise in mass shootings, as right-wing courts and state legislatures repeal rules and politicians and gunmakers stoke fears of tyranny and civil war. America now has more guns than people, according to one estimate.

For some people, the growing presence of guns in American community spaces represents the very essence of freedom. For many of us, though, they’re an assault on the social contract, a threat that undermines our freedom and confidence to go about our lives long before anyone pulls the trigger. The ubiquity of guns, and the we way contort ourselves and our institutions to accommodate it, is debilitating enough.

Guns on Parade (Slate)

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Decatur Deb  Jul 7, 2022 • 8:11:39am

re: #242 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

I’m not suggesting that it should affect the casting decisions in the current show, but there is no question that Tolkien’s original intention was to create a mythology for England, and he noted (and changed where he could — tobacco became pipe-weed, for example) anachronisms in his work. It simply doesn’t matter what color they were, then or now — except to crazy white supremacists who mix a perverted version of Tolkien with Nazi ideology for their world view.

Shakespeare’s original intention was for a Scottish-looking Macbeth and Macduff, but Denzil Washington and Corey Hawkins pulled it off quite nicely. It’s featured right now on Apple TV+.

imdb.com

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No Malarkey!  Jul 7, 2022 • 8:11:56am

re: #245 Crush White Nationalism

Guns on Parade (Slate)

Millions of Americans have had their minds poisoned by decades of propaganda that the government they elect is their enemy, and the only way to defend their freedom is to prepare to fight a war against it, and that is the purpose of the Second Amendment. This has been very profitable for the gun industry, which has sold countless millions of assault rifles to increasingly paranoid, radicalized Americans.

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ckkatz  Jul 7, 2022 • 8:13:44am

re: #168 No Malarkey!

Very good article. Thanks for posting it!

And good to see Dirt-Dart posting here again as well.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jul 7, 2022 • 8:15:07am

re: #247 No Malarkey!

Millions of Americans have had their minds poisoned by decades of propaganda that the government they elect is their enemy, and the only way to defend their freedom is to prepare to fight a war against it, and that is the purpose of the Second Amendment. This has been very profitable for the gun industry, which has sold countless millions of assault rifles to increasingly paranoid, radicalized Americans.

My brother is one of them. When America is actually threatened, they side with the threat.

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ckkatz  Jul 7, 2022 • 8:18:30am

re: #245 Crush White Nationalism

Yup! Many of these folks are buying assault weapons for one purpose. To kill Americans.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jul 7, 2022 • 8:20:37am

re: #180 Dopamine Fish

HOLY SHIT.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 7, 2022 • 8:23:49am

re: #250 ckkatz

Yup! Many of these folks are buying assault weapons for one purpose. To kill Americans.

Not far from my neighborhood is a guy who has a window decal in his truck indicating he belongs to the white nationalist militia Three Percenters, members of which participated in the January 6 attack. He has another decal of a person pointing a gun at the head of a bound victim on his knees, with the slogan “kill your local pedophile.” Assuming this guy is a member of the QAnon Cult, “pedophile” is just another word for “Democrat.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 7, 2022 • 8:25:49am

Mississippis only abortion clinic, the same one that filed the legal challenge that went all the way to SCOTUS and resulted in Roe being overturned, is now closed.

Women in Mississippi and neighboring states that want to get a legal abortion must now go to the next closest clinic…in St. Louis.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 7, 2022 • 8:26:59am

re: #253 Eclectic Cyborg

Mississippis only abortion clinic, the same one that filed the legal challenge that went all the way to SCOTUS and resulted in Roe being overturned, is now closed.

Women in Mississippi and neighboring states that want to get a legal abortion must now go to the next closest clinic…in St. Louis.

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ckkatz  Jul 7, 2022 • 8:28:13am

Sure, Tuesday’s Derecho was 800 miles long, hundreds of miles wide, turned the sky green and narrowly missed AnyMouse…

But, dangnab it; The DC region had not one, but two tornadoes Tuesday! One, in Bowie, traced a path of destruction almost a mile long and as much 125 yards wide for a tortuous 3 minutes. And the second nailed that Ann Arundal County empty field for nearly a minute before lifting off!

wbaltv.com

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Decatur Deb  Jul 7, 2022 • 8:30:48am

re: #250 ckkatz

Yup! Many of these folks are buying assault weapons for one purpose. To kill Americans.

It will probably never come to that on any meaningful scale. OTOH, by the time people might discover they need to arm and train, it will be much too late.

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austin_blue  Jul 7, 2022 • 8:33:29am

So my sister-in-law, a nice Texas girl living in Bedfordshire north of London, is referring to recent events in England as a Coup de Twat.

In regard to BoJos adios speech, it is best summed up by Warren Zevon:

Youtube Video

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No Malarkey!  Jul 7, 2022 • 8:34:56am

re: #256 Decatur Deb

It will probably never come to that on any meaningful scale. OTOH, by the time people might discover they need to arm and train, it will be much too late.

I once would’ve agreed with you. I’m no longer so sure. The Right is preparing for a real-life shooting war that they are certain is coming.

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ckkatz  Jul 7, 2022 • 8:36:17am

re: #253 Eclectic Cyborg

re: #254 No Malarkey!

I am horrified by these terrible stories.

But I have a second feeling that is growing as well.

That is - Did these suffering people vote for the monsters who put in these laws? Do they now understand the monsters have made their home state a place of danger not safety? At what point and what actions do they have personal responsibility for their own well being? At what point are they not victims, but volunteers in their own suffering?

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Decatur Deb  Jul 7, 2022 • 8:37:45am

re: #258 No Malarkey!

I once would’ve agreed with you. I’m no longer so sure. The Right is preparing for a real-life shooting war that they are certain is coming.

It will be localized and chaotic, best left to the cops and the odd Longbow. (Except here, the insurgentes are likely to be the cops.)

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jul 7, 2022 • 8:38:43am

re: #246 Decatur Deb

Shakespeare’s original intention was for a Scottish-looking Macbeth and Macduff, but Denzil Washington and Corey Hawkins pulled it off quite nicely. It’s featured right now on Apple TV+.

imdb.com

How do we know that Shakespeare wouldn’t have cast “moorish” actors, if they’d been available?

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Decatur Deb  Jul 7, 2022 • 8:40:03am

re: #261 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

How do we know that Shakespeare wouldn’t have cast “moorish” actors, if they’d been available?

Too proud. They wouldn’t work for English actors’ wages.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 7, 2022 • 8:41:50am

re: #261 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

How do we know that Shakespeare wouldn’t have cast “moorish” actors, if they’d been available?

I assume he would have for Othello, at least.

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2022 • 8:43:53am

re: #259 ckkatz

I am horrified by these terrible stories.

But I have a second feeling that is growing as well.

That is - Did these suffering people vote for the monsters who put in these laws? Do they now understand the monsters have made their home state a place of danger not safety? At what point and what actions do they have personal responsibility for their own well being? At point are they not victims, but volunteers in their own suffering?

It’s in Texas, and the person who contacted her knew her because she read her tweets. I suspect this person did try to vote for the right people.

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mmmirele  Jul 7, 2022 • 8:45:48am

Apparently the issue my temple of capitalism employer had a couple days ago was

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I have a throbbing headache already and I haven’t even been working an hour. Off to find some analgesics.

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Florida Panhandler  Jul 7, 2022 • 8:46:00am

re: #249 Crush White Nationalism

My own personal encounters with the “well-regulated militia.”

Backstory, now age 54, grew up in Texas in a 2 child nuclear family that owned about 4 bolt action deer rifles, a .22 long rifle, and 3 shotguns. We did not live on a farm. It was a normal suburb. We did have access 120 miles away to some family members that did own deer hunting land. Bear in mind that this was the 70’s and 80’s before the fetish with assault weapons really began to take off.

Encounter #1 - me age 12, brother age 10. After a normal brother/brother fight, my 10 year old brother comes into my parent’s bedroom where I am standing with my mother and points a fully loaded .22 long rifle at my head ready to fire. My mother is directly behind me watching this unfold. If he would have shot me in the head, it very might have killed me and hit my mother as well, or at the very least sprayed her with my brains.

Encounter #2. College 1988 I lived in a ranch style house divided into rental rooms sharing a common bathroom. One tenant we knew was mentally disturbed and taking medication. When I was at work one evening, another roommate comes by and tells me he discovered the disturbed boy in his room with his brains all over the wall and a bolt action rifle on the floor, obviously the scene from Full Metal Jacket played out in real life. This is before assault weapons and the internet, so obviously relieved if it had to turn out like this, he was not also radicalized online and had an ar-15 variant to take out our entire house if he felt like it.

Encounter #3. 1995, my father’s suicide. After years of alcoholism and various other problems, my 2-year divorced father took his own life by hanging himself from a staircase. Investigators found a loaded revolver next to a pile of personal tax forms and other financial paperwork that he had been working on up to that point. So he was going to go out not matter what, but ended it all doing the option that would not leave a big mess. Also this was still before the era of online radicalization. I am glad he was not exposed to decades of Fox News (like current right wing assholes in my own family) and decide to take his feelings of entitlement and violence out on the public.

And these days, increasingly I feel an undercurrent of rage on the driving roads around here, with radicalized white men ready to fire at anyone and everything that crosses them while on the road. I keep having thoughts that my end WILL eventually be from the barrel of a gun somehow. This is no way to live. This is not the type of country I want to live in anymore.

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Teukka  Jul 7, 2022 • 8:46:35am
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Belafon  Jul 7, 2022 • 8:47:08am

re: #254 No Malarkey!

Reading through her timeline:

Her pinned tweet:

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BeachDem  Jul 7, 2022 • 8:49:40am

And it all comes full circle. Ugh.

Timothy Loehmann, officer who killed Tamir Rice, hired by Pa. town

washingtonpost.com

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mmmirele  Jul 7, 2022 • 8:55:04am

re: #266 Florida Panhandler

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No Malarkey!  Jul 7, 2022 • 8:56:34am
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Crush White Nationalism  Jul 7, 2022 • 8:57:11am

re: #267 Teukka

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Dr. Matt  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:00:06am

“Democratic extremism”:

Equality for all
Education for all
Healthcare for all
Commonsense gun laws
Safety nets for all

….fucking radicals

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Teukka  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:02:03am
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HRH Stanley Sea  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:02:35am

re: #267 Teukka

He drove a car with p***y magnet on it.

Yeah, dad.

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Jay C  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:07:10am

re: #274 Teukka

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Yeah, really: how dare they quote her own words!?!?!?

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Renaissance_Man  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:07:52am

re: #256 Decatur Deb

It will probably never come to that on any meaningful scale. OTOH, by the time people might discover they need to arm and train, it will be much too late.

It is already happening on a meaningful scale. Armed American terrorists already kill people on a regular basis and in large numbers. The threat of such affects daily life for most Americans - it affects our schools, our children, how we gather for social events. Americans ignore it or don’t think it is significant because the idea that white men can kill you if they want is hardcoded into American culture, and the solution is to either join them or avoid them.

Americans are constantly terrorised by their homegrown terrorists. That’s a meaningful scale to me, and to pretty much anyone who didn’t grow up here. That doesn’t even count the much larger meaningful scale of people who die in domestic shootings, in accidental shootings, in gang shootings, in ones and twos. America is a culture of human sacrifice, and any sacrifice is acceptable as long as white men continue to feel like they have the power of life and death.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:15:52am

re: #265 mmmirele

Apparently the issue my temple of capitalism employer had a couple days ago was

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I have a throbbing headache already and I haven’t even been working an hour. Off to find some analgesics.

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ckkatz  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:17:50am

re: #264 Belafon

It’s in Texas, and the person who contacted her knew her because she read her tweets. I suspect this person did try to vote for the right people.

I suspect that you are correct on voting. Although, clearly, somebody has to be voting for Abbot, Paxton, Cruz and Cornyn.

And I’m certainly not trying to pick a fight here.

I have thoughts about my own actions and boundaries regarding when the craziness is no longer acceptable. But I do not know what others view regarding the line for their responsibility for their own safety. And frankly, I am too old and have seen to much to even attempt to judge.

I’m just trying to figure out what are good points for when a person is a victim and when a person did not exercise self responsibility. And yes, I suspect that there are many cases when a person is both.

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Dangerman (Namaste, bitches)  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:18:08am

re: #267 Teukka

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‘not my fault’
smdh

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:21:37am

re: #279 ckkatz

I suspect that you are correct on voting. Although, clearly, somebody has to be voting for Abbot, Paxton, Cruz and Cornyn.

And I’m certainly not trying to pick a fight here.

I have thoughts about my own actions and boundaries regarding when the craziness is no longer acceptable. But I do not know what others view regarding the line for their responsibility for their own safety. And frankly, I am too old and have seen to much to even attempt to judge.

I’m just trying to figure out what are good points for when a person is a victim and when a person did not exercise self responsibility. And yes, I suspect that there are many cases when a person is both.

I wish I could get people to stop voting for these awful people, but far too many around me watch Fox and attend churches that are either openly hostile to minorities, gays, and women or are too afraid to challenge those views. It’s actually going to be harder to fix stuff if people leave Texas.

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Dangerman (Namaste, bitches)  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:27:52am

re: #281 Belafon

I wish I could get people to stop voting for these awful people, but far too many around me watch Fox and attend churches that are either openly hostile to minorities, gays, and women or are too afraid to challenge those views. It’s actually going to be harder to fix stuff if people leave Texas.

from today’s electoral-vote.com

…If young people voted at the same rate as old people, Democrats would win all competitive elections and probably quite a few that are now not competitive. This disparity is what keeps the Republican Party alive.

What the Democrats need to do is find ways to get young people to vote.

There are probably other things that can be done, but getting turnout up among young voters really should be the Democrats’ top priority.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:28:11am

re: #277 Renaissance_Man

You and I are going to die of circulatory disease, cancer, infectious disease or an accident, just like everybody else. Nutcases with guns are not a terror unless we want them to be. There is room for improvement, and over-reaction is the best way to derail it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:28:23am

re: #233 No Malarkey!

Like the “globalist” mention in the discussion — their anti-Semitism is so blatant that they don’t bother even hiding it.

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jaunte  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:28:41am

Having grown up among Republicans, I can say the ‘reasonable’ part was just a facade.

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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:29:42am

Nationwide trend is for gas prices coming down, and it’s not coming down fast enough (because oil companies must maximize their profits at our expense).

But right wingers and Fox propagandists will keep claiming prices are surging.

They are not.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:30:10am
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Belafon  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:32:08am

re: #283 Decatur Deb

You and I are going to die of circulatory disease, cancer, infectious disease or an accident, just like everybody else. Nutcases with guns are not a terror unless we want them to be. There is room for improvement, and over-reaction is the best way to derail it.

Yes, though we need to balance that with the fact that Republicans preventing us from dealing with domestic terrorism is how we ended up with the Tulsa riots back in the early 1900s.

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Renaissance_Man  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:33:27am

re: #282 Dangerman

from today’s electoral-vote.com

That makes the assumption that young people who don’t vote will vote Democratic in the same proportion as those who are motivated to vote. I wish I believed that was true.

Young people aren’t any less susceptible to propaganda, misinformation, or simply being nihilistic arseholes than older people. The means by which they get radicalised is different, but young voters aren’t going to save this country any more than Hispanic or Asian ones will. After all, Republicans have been fascists now for nearly 40 years, if not longer. Whole generations have grown up with this. And yet, the generation that most reliably votes fascist isn’t boomers, but Gen X.

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jaunte  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:35:51am

“…In Nazi Germany, some citizens passed on information about their neighbours, family, and friends to the Gestapo . This was called informing. Nazi propaganda presented the Gestapo as an omnipresent , all-seeing, all-knowing group, but in reality there was just one secret police officer for approximately every 10,000 citizens of Nazi Germany. The Gestapo were therefore reliant on a network of thousands of informants.”
theholocaustexplained.org

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No Malarkey!  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:36:06am

re: #289 Renaissance_Man

That makes the assumption that young people who don’t vote will vote Democratic in the same proportion as those who are motivated to vote. I wish I believed that was true.

Young people aren’t any less susceptible to propaganda, misinformation, or simply being nihilistic arseholes than older people. The means by which they get radicalised is different, but young voters aren’t going to save this country any more than Hispanic or Asian ones will. After all, Republicans have been fascists now for nearly 40 years, if not longer. Whole generations have grown up with this. And yet, the generation that most reliably votes fascist isn’t boomers, but Gen X.

But the demographic makeup of young people today is much less white than previous generations, which is a problem for the party of white nationalism.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:36:09am

re: #237 lawhawk

We (and by we, I mean most Democrats) have been warning about this very thing for years. We said this would happen if Trump were to enter office, and run his extremists to SCOTUS, and that’s precisely what happened. All the naysayers who claimed this was hysteria were wrong. Like so completely wrong that the naysayers should never be trusted again on any opinion they hold. It was so predictable that this would be the outcome, that those naysayers should be run from their punditry.
……

Any Republican would have made these appointments. These are McConnell’s extremists, not Trump’s, though it was Trump that persuaded Kennedy to leave so the situation would not have been quite so dire if another Republican had gotten elected when it came to Roe. But it would have been equally dire for all the other decisions.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:36:45am
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Romantic Heretic  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:37:21am

re: #28 Belafon

Direct line between Christian Nationalists and the Taliban.

Like the difference between water moccasins and copperheads. There are minor differences between them.

The important is they are both venomous snakes that will fuck you up if they bite you.

Unlike the snakes religious nut jobs perform no useful part in nature.

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Dangerman (Namaste, bitches)  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:37:41am

re: #285 jaunte

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Having grown up among Republicans, I can say the ‘reasonable’ part was just a facade.

what they were back then was more or less honest brokers agreeing to and abiding by the rules of the game.

they accepted the dems as legitimate and were not out for their total destruction.

they understood that the complicated business of politics is to negotiate agreements between groups with different interests the object of which is to find a common way forward.

i.e. to compromise, more or less

“If you can’t learn to compromise on an issue without compromising yourself, you sure as hell should never be in the legislative body. Every document of this country was a compromise. Go home and bitch and raise hell around the city council or something. Go haunt someone else. But you should never come to Congress. And you should never get married.”

‘If you want to be a purist, go somewhere on a mountaintop and praise the east or something. But if you want to be in politics, you learn to compromise. And you learn to compromise on the issue without compromising yourself. Show me a guy who won’t compromise and I’ll show you a guy with rock for brains.’

— Former Sen. Alan Simpson (R-WY), quoted by Time.

someone else (who I cant recall):

Compromise says nothing about abandoning principles. It’s figuring out how to get as much as you can from the political process. Not stamping your foot and demanding that all things must go your way or you’ll throw a tantrum (and wrench into the system, grinding it to a halt).

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ckkatz  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:39:00am

re: #270 mmmirele

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:39:00am
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jaunte  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:39:10am

re: #295 Dangerman

The pros understood, yes. Now the pros understand who their base is.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:39:26am

re: #288 Belafon

Yes, though we need to balance that with the fact that Republicans preventing us from dealing with domestic terrorism is how we ended up with the Tulsa riots back in the early 1900s.

There can still be lots of low-intensity riots. Better communications and emergency response planning will keep them from the atrocities of the past. In fact, we might even be less murderous humans than we were. I’m a loud leftist in an extremely red part of the old Confederacy, and the only physical threat that concerns me is the city-county SWAT teams.

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JC1  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:42:13am

re: #284 Hecuba’s daughter

Like the “globalist” mention in the discussion — their anti-Semitism is so blatant that they don’t bother even hiding it.

Yeah, the biggest Brexit proponent in the British government sure is a globalist. Idiots.

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:42:15am

I turned the police scanner app on because I heard sirens. They aren’t related to this but dispatch just said they received one call from a male saying that his mother was drunk and hitting him, and she thins a related call from a woman saying that she was being beaten by her son.

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JC1  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:44:31am

re: #289 Renaissance_Man

That makes the assumption that young people who don’t vote will vote Democratic in the same proportion as those who are motivated to vote. I wish I believed that was true.

Young people aren’t any less susceptible to propaganda, misinformation, or simply being nihilistic arseholes than older people. The means by which they get radicalised is different, but young voters aren’t going to save this country any more than Hispanic or Asian ones will. After all, Republicans have been fascists now for nearly 40 years, if not longer. Whole generations have grown up with this. And yet, the generation that most reliably votes fascist isn’t boomers, but Gen X.

Surveys make it pretty clear that they would. Young people are much more likely than the general population to be nonreligious, pro choice, pro LGBTQ rights, pro environment, etc.

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ckkatz  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:44:57am
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Dangerman (Namaste, bitches)  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:46:17am

re: #289 Renaissance_Man

That makes the assumption that young people who don’t vote will vote Democratic in the same proportion as those who are motivated to vote. I wish I believed that was true.

Young people aren’t any less susceptible to propaganda, misinformation, or simply being nihilistic arseholes than older people. The means by which they get radicalised is different, but young voters aren’t going to save this country any more than Hispanic or Asian ones will. After all, Republicans have been fascists now for nearly 40 years, if not longer. Whole generations have grown up with this. And yet, the generation that most reliably votes fascist isn’t boomers, but Gen X.

yes, that’s the assumption. from the link inside the link

This is in line with the conventional wisdom that there’s a consistent age gap in our politics today, where older voters vote red and younger voters veer blue. And there are myriad reasons why this is the case. For one, older Americans are more likely to be white and religious — two demographic groups that also tend to vote Republican. They’re also more likely to favor less government intervention and are more prone to believing that increased diversity isn’t a good thing for the country — which is in line with many Republicans’ way of thinking.

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Renaissance_Man  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:47:27am

re: #283 Decatur Deb

You and I are going to die of circulatory disease, cancer, infectious disease or an accident, just like everybody else. Nutcases with guns are not a terror unless we want them to be. There is room for improvement, and over-reaction is the best way to derail it.

Most people in open shooting wars don’t die of being shot either. Just because you and I are unlikely to be shot in a mass shooting event doesn’t mean that the terror and threat of such doesn’t affect our everyday life.

Children all across this country regularly train for terror events. They are taught to not open the door for a pleading classmate and to let them die, an inversion of basic empathy that appalls me every time I think about it. Mass shootings don’t just happen in schools or events, they happen in houses, at parties, and anywhere people go. Again, Americans just accept this loss as cost of doing business, where the business is white supremacy. Your point is that we don’t have to live in fear, just as we don’t live in fear of driving or other things that we do in life that people die doing all the time, and that’s fine. But it is not overreacting at all to point out that America is absolutely a nation that practices human sacrifice, nor is it an overreaction to understand that Americans practice terrorism on their own countrymen every day. I still remember the first time an American casually tapped the pistol on his dash after I flipped him off for cutting me off in traffic. Again, I’m sure for most Americans, they just think that’s an understandable and minor road rage incident. It’s not. It’s not normal to advertise to other people in a supposedly civil society that you can and will kill them if you want. It’s not normal for children to point loaded guns at each other after scuffles, as Florida Panhandler pointed out upthread. That’s not how people in modern, civilised societies live or behave. Americans are just so numb to domestic terrorism that they think it’s normal.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:47:39am

MUSIKIANS SHULD STAY OUTTA POLITICIKS!!!!!

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ckkatz  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:48:36am
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jaunte  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:49:22am

re: #306 Dr. Matt

Copy that to Coca-Cola Atlanta legal dept. and watch it disappear.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:52:09am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:52:48am

re: #280 Dangerman

‘not my fault’
smdh

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He is a Trump supporter; what else do you expect from anyone depraved enough to continue to support such a monster?

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:53:32am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:55:10am

re: #285 jaunte

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Having grown up among Republicans, I can say the ‘reasonable’ part was just a facade.

Most (not all) were reasonable back in the 60’s, 70’s, and even during the 80’s.

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mmmirele  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:58:02am

re: #278 The Pie Overlord!

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aatharuv  Jul 7, 2022 • 9:59:14am

re: #312 Hecuba’s daughter

Most (not all) were reasonable back in the 60’s, 70’s, and even during the 80’s.

There was an actual overlap between Republican and Democratic positions. That is now gone, except for a couple of fairly moderate Republican governors in strong Democratic states, and some conservative Democratic governors in strong Republican states (John Bel Edwards, who signed a heartbeat bill into law).

When they were both in the House, Justin Amash at one point, had a voting record slightly to the left of Krysten Sinema.

Of course, Justin Amash later on declared his independence from the Republican Party, and Krysten Sinema does everything she can to sabotage Democratic bills in the Senate, which shows you how much of an abnormality this is anymore.

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Dangerman (Namaste, bitches)  Jul 7, 2022 • 10:03:07am

re: #305 Renaissance_Man

Most people in open shooting wars don’t die of being shot either. Just because you and I are unlikely to be shot in a mass shooting event doesn’t mean that the terror and threat of such doesn’t affect our everyday life.

Children all across this country regularly train for terror events….

the bulwark

“Massacres at supermarkets, churches, classrooms, shopping malls, and good God, July Fourth parades are not like other violence. They shatter our sense of safety. They destroy our sense of normal life. Who among us has not wondered whether we might fall victim to this madness at a ball game or a concert? This epidemic of mass random shootings is not like gang killings in cities. It’s like terrorism. It invades the normal, peaceful world—the places in which we must feel secure.”

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jaunte  Jul 7, 2022 • 10:03:13am

re: #312 Hecuba’s daughter

My experience is colored by having been brought to a Goldwater rally in company with some Birchers when I was 10.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 7, 2022 • 10:03:36am
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Dangerman (Namaste, bitches)  Jul 7, 2022 • 10:05:04am
“When Herschel Walker’s campaign aides approached him this winter to discuss whispers that Walker had a secret child, the Georgia GOP’s Senate candidate told his campaign the rumors were false,” the Daily Beast reports.

“Walker’s aides already knew he was lying.”

“They had expected him to lie, and had obtained documents in advance of that conversation verifying that Walker did indeed have another child… They handed the documents to him, and after some more back and forth, Walker finally admitted it was true. His aides asked if there were any other children they needed to know about. Walker insisted this was it.”

Said a campaign adviser: “He’s lied so much that we don’t know what’s true
.”

feature not bug / perfect republican candidate.
the base will support him 100%

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 7, 2022 • 10:05:35am

re: #300 JC1

Yeah, the biggest Brexit proponent in the British government sure is a globalist. Idiots.

The “globalist” remark in the segment related to Johnson’s handling of Covid after he recovered from his very serious bout of the illness — that he following the “globalist” recommendations regarding masks, shutdowns, etc.

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Renaissance_Man  Jul 7, 2022 • 10:05:38am

re: #291 No Malarkey!

But the demographic makeup of young people today is much less white than previous generations, which is a problem for the party of white nationalism.

Again, I wish that were true, but it’s really not a problem. The default human reaction when there’s an ingroup and outgroup and you don’t look like the ingroup is still to try to join the ingroup and pretend you are, not to identify with the outgroup.

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ckkatz  Jul 7, 2022 • 10:06:38am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 7, 2022 • 10:06:52am

re: #303 ckkatz

A deep journalistic dive shows these people are not friends of climate action, or abortion rights (though they organised many of the protests since the Extreme Court struck down Roe).

They are a cult and a front for the Revolutionary Communist Party, a group the overwhelming majority of left activist groups reject. (They also have a hate-boner for Democrats.)

Their leader is Bob Avakian (Wikipedia), who started with Students for a Democratic Society but has become increasingly radical (and is accused of running both a cult-of-personality and a pyramid scheme).

Can ‘Rise Up 4 Abortion’ Be Trusted? (Mel Magazine)

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jaunte  Jul 7, 2022 • 10:07:32am
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Dangerman (Namaste, bitches)  Jul 7, 2022 • 10:08:52am

re: #322 ckkatz

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pitchbot turley needs to talk to alito cause there was no IRS at the founding, or income taxes even.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 7, 2022 • 10:11:27am

re: #293 No Malarkey!

But, but I was told he was ANTIFA.

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Dangerman (Namaste, bitches)  Jul 7, 2022 • 10:11:33am

re: #316 Dangerman

also from that slate piece someone linked above

[Guns are] an assault on the social contract, a threat that undermines our freedom and confidence to go about our lives long before anyone pulls the trigger.

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2022 • 10:11:44am

re: #325 Dangerman

pitchbot turley needs to talk to alito cause there was no IRS at the founding, or income taxes even.

[Embedded content]

Aloto will just talk about the storied traditions going back to the 1930s, and then use this to abolish all taxes as unconstitutional.

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Teukka  Jul 7, 2022 • 10:12:03am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 7, 2022 • 10:12:28am
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Dangerman (Namaste, bitches)  Jul 7, 2022 • 10:14:19am
Ohio U.S. Senate candidate J.D. Vance (R) compared abortion to slavery in an interview last fall, drawing a controversial parallel between America’s original sin and a procedure that until recently was a constitutional right,” Vice News reports.

Said Vance: “There’s something comparable between abortion and slavery, and that while the people who obviously suffer the most are those subjected to it, I think it has this morally distorting effect on the entire society.”

He added: “I really think abortion has really done something very socially destructive to us as people in how we see the most vulnerable and the most dependent among us. I think that’s one of the under-appreciated facts about abortion. It’s really distorted our entire society.”

fetus / ‘unborn’ or African-American, these R’s / conservatives have a really warped idea of what a “person” is.
.
.
.
and isn’t - see transgender, etc.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 7, 2022 • 10:15:35am

re: #330 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The group consistently calls any criticism “lies and slander,” and they are doing it in Imani Gandy’s thread.

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John Hughes  Jul 7, 2022 • 12:46:13pm

re: #312 Hecuba’s daughter

Most (not all) were reasonable back in the 60’s, 70’s, and even during the 80’s.

At least half of the despicable republicans in the 60s and early 70s were democrats, of course.


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