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Charles Johnson  Sep 18, 2022 • 5:49:16pm

Petrucci is redonkulous.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 18, 2022 • 5:51:02pm
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bratwurst  Sep 18, 2022 • 5:57:34pm

Get ready for the right wing tantrum over “The US and the Holocaust”. Burns will be condemned as hopelessly partisan, and the long established reality that the “Nürnberger Gesetze” were inspired in part by Jim Crow will be called slanderous.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2022 • 5:58:52pm

re: #2 The Pie Overlord!

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We are taping it, and will be watching for dinner for however many days until we finish it.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2022 • 5:59:25pm

re: #3 bratwurst

Get ready for the right wing tantrum over “The US and the Holocaust”. Burns will be condemned as hopelessly partisan, and the long established reality that the “Nürnberger Gesetze” were inspired in part by Jim Crow will be called slanderous.

At the same time using it to justify calling Democrats Nazis because Democrats started the KKK.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 18, 2022 • 6:04:04pm

The world lost a real one today.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 18, 2022 • 6:07:44pm

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 18, 2022 • 6:08:45pm


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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 18, 2022 • 6:24:00pm

What. The. Fuck. Is. This. Shit. I. Just. Can’t. Even.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2022 • 6:24:07pm

re: #8 Patricia Kayden

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 18, 2022 • 6:25:40pm
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Belafon  Sep 18, 2022 • 6:27:26pm

re: #9 The Pie Overlord!

What. The. Fuck. Is. This. Shit. I. Just. Can’t. Even.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 18, 2022 • 6:35:03pm

re: #9 The Pie Overlord!

What. The. Fuck. Is. This. Shit. I. Just. Can’t. Even.

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Hasn’t Michael Tracey repeatedly demonstrated his anti-Semitic credentials in his pro Putin propaganda during the Ukraine war?

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 18, 2022 • 6:36:13pm

re: #13 Hecuba’s daughter

Hasn’t Michael Tracey repeatedly demonstrated his anti-Semitic credentials in his pro Putin propaganda during the Ukraine war?

Yes. Michael Tracey has long been an anti-Semitic hack.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 18, 2022 • 6:39:39pm

“The Woman King” sounds like it’s a great movie. Sadly there are some complaints about it, that it elides Dahomey’s participation in the slave trade. I still want to see it.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 18, 2022 • 6:40:01pm

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mmmirele  Sep 18, 2022 • 6:45:33pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 18, 2022 • 6:47:01pm

I have to decide what I’m going to make for the Rosh Hashanah holiday next week. It’s just me & Z so I don’t want to overdo it.

I already baked challah.
Apple strudel.
Gefilte fish (Yes! It’s very tasty!)
Baked salmon.
Sweet potatoes.
Brisket? That’s way too much for 2 people.
OK a small roast.
Chicken soup.
Potato kugel.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Sep 18, 2022 • 6:47:22pm

I am still a little haunted by a statement a crazed proto-maga made to me more than 10 years ago. Complaining that his ilk were the real victims of persecution, he declared “the day will come when Republicans are hunted like wild animals!” Naturally I thought he was nuts, but otoh if a species appeared that killed over a million Americans by spreading a dangerous disease, and if a berserk herd of them trampled through the US Capitol, killing police and causing millions of dollars in damage, then yes, that species would probably be the subject of an open season, no limit decree. I wonder if he understood Repug intentions better than I did.

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Dangerman  Sep 18, 2022 • 6:51:20pm

re: #10 Belafon

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Love it when people dig up part of history without all of it. Let me know when you get to the part of Byrd’s history after the 1960s.

Heck, look at Bolduc today vs all of three weeks ago re the 2020 election

Or any number of R websites and their views on abortion a mere three months ago

Yeah “all of it” and with context. It matters both ways

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 18, 2022 • 6:55:27pm
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Belafon  Sep 18, 2022 • 6:59:53pm

re: #15 The Pie Overlord!

“The Woman King” sounds like it’s a great movie. Sadly there are some complaints about it, that it elides Dahomey’s participation in the slave trade. I still want to see it.

Which would lead to “See, they were selling slaves, too!?

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 18, 2022 • 7:02:45pm

re: #22 Belafon

Which would lead to “See, they were selling slaves, too!?

Yeah but, they only sold the bad guys.

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A Three Hour Tour  Sep 18, 2022 • 7:10:46pm

” But what about Robert Byrd? Checkmate, Libtard!”
“I see your Byrd, and raise you Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms, Southern racist former Democrats who switched parties to become leading Republican figures when the Democratic Party embraced Civil Rights. I also counter with conservative racist thought leaders and defenders of American segregation *and* South African Apartheid William F. Buckley, Jr and Pat Buchanan. How’s that, fascist?”

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EstebanTornado1963  Sep 18, 2022 • 7:11:35pm

Lol, this is semi popular on the twitters

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 18, 2022 • 7:13:39pm

re: #15 The Pie Overlord!

“The Woman King” sounds like it’s a great movie. Sadly there are some complaints about it, that it elides Dahomey’s participation in the slave trade. I still want to see it.

My Sister loved it and told me to go see it. It looks great to me.

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sagehen  Sep 18, 2022 • 7:14:08pm

re: #25 EstebanTornado1963

Lol, this is semi popular on the twitters

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Pat Kajak is *very* MAGA. He writes editorials for right-wing publications.

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austin_blue  Sep 18, 2022 • 7:15:52pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Petrucci is redonkulous.

Petrucci is an alias of Robert Fripp, yes?

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 18, 2022 • 7:22:02pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 18, 2022 • 7:22:36pm
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EstebanTornado1963  Sep 18, 2022 • 7:23:29pm
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austin_blue  Sep 18, 2022 • 7:23:53pm

re: #18 The Pie Overlord!

I have to decide what I’m going to make for the Rosh Hashanah holiday next week. It’s just me & Z so I don’t want to overdo it.

I already baked challah.
Apple strudel.
Gefilte fish (Yes! It’s very tasty!)
Baked salmon.
Sweet potatoes.
Brisket? That’s way too much for 2 people.
OK a small roast.
Chicken soup.
Potato kugel.

What is the base fish for your Gefilte? Carp? Whitefish?

Carp is tough. Tasty, but a shit ton of bones.

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William Lewis  Sep 18, 2022 • 7:25:53pm

re: #12 Belafon

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mmmirele  Sep 18, 2022 • 7:28:27pm
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austin_blue  Sep 18, 2022 • 7:29:53pm

Just finished watching Episode One of The U.S. and the Holocaust.

I kept finding myself yelling at the TV. You will, too. The way that European and western powers shut down immigration from Europe at exactly when the Jews of Europe needed to to get the fuck out of Europe is breathtaking.

Fuck us. We were complicit.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 18, 2022 • 7:33:03pm

re: #12 Belafon

Not to mention the persecution of German Jews began YEARS before Pearl Harbor.

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austin_blue  Sep 18, 2022 • 7:39:12pm

re: #34 mmmirele

What does that mean? Did they abandon their property? Was there some kind of advantage they gained by abandoning their houses? I’m confused. Or did they have insurance and decided they didn’t want to deal with the inconvenience between the damage and the repair?

Rich people routinely move their households, if they have more than one, based on the weather. This poor mook thinks it’s to stick it to the PR.

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austin_blue  Sep 18, 2022 • 7:41:49pm

And I’m out. Sweet scaly dreams!

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 18, 2022 • 7:42:13pm

re: #32 austin_blue

What is the base fish for your Gefilte? Carp? Whitefish?

Carp is tough. Tasty, but a shit ton of bones.

Ucch I hate carp! It tastes like dirt.

I used to make my own gefilte fish from whitefish and pickerel. However now I just buy the pre-made frozen rolls.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 18, 2022 • 7:45:31pm

re: #35 austin_blue

Just finished watching Episode One of The U.S. and the Holocaust.

I kept finding myself yelling at the TV. You will, too. The way that European and western powers shut down immigration from Europe at exactly when the Jews of Europe needed to to get the fuck out of Europe is breathtaking.

Fuck us. We were complicit.

Plus ca change, plus ca meme. The US attitude toward Jewish immigrants (pre-Hitler) is the same as today’s MAGAt attitude toward immigrants from south of the border.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 18, 2022 • 7:51:39pm

re: #35 austin_blue

The anti-immigrant id of Americans is one of those things that is maddening. Of course all of us Americans have recent (in the big picture of western civilization) immigrant ancestors, yet so many Americans are anti-immigrant.

I’ve not watched that show yet. I’m sure it will be uncomfortable.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2022 • 7:55:03pm

I have talked about my older dog Rex before. He’s 14, and doesn’t move very well anymore for very long, though he will still get an urge to run through the house for a few minutes most evenings.

I have taken him on a short walk a couple of times since we had to let Zero go. These days, without a lead, he makes it to the end of the the street and turns around. He always likes to run back the last part, and into the house. It used to be race between him and Zero. When he ran in this evening, he got to the end of the path into the house and stopped. You could tell he was expecting Zero to be at his usual place waiting since Zero was much faster.

He hasn’t been as depressed as when we had to have Caramel put to sleep about six years ago. I think some of that is due to his age, but I kind of think that some of that is due to him understanding that Zero wasn’t feeling well. But some things are different around here and he sometimes senses that.

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JC1  Sep 18, 2022 • 8:06:06pm

re: #34 mmmirele

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I don’t agree with this criticism . If the people don’t have the skills to be much help in a hurricane aftermath, then it’s preferable that they get out of the way. That’s why mainland locations have evacuation orders. All of PR can’t readily evacuate, but folks who are able to, should leave.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 18, 2022 • 8:12:46pm
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mmmirele  Sep 18, 2022 • 8:14:43pm

re: #37 austin_blue

What does that mean? Did they abandon their property? Was there some kind of advantage they gained by abandoning their houses? I’m confused. Or did they have insurance and decided they didn’t want to deal with the inconvenience between the damage and the repair?

Rich people routinely move their households, if they have more than one, based on the weather. This poor mook thinks it’s to stick it to the PR.

They picked up and left in the face of the hurricane. You know, as one does. Except that for millions in Puerto Rico, just flying away is not an option.

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mmmirele  Sep 18, 2022 • 8:18:23pm

Missed this…

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garzooma  Sep 18, 2022 • 8:19:54pm

re: #41 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The anti-immigrant id of Americans is one of those things that is maddening. Of course all of us Americans have recent (in the big picture of western civilization) immigrant ancestors, yet so many Americans are anti-immigrant.

I’ve not watched that show yet. I’m sure it will be uncomfortable.

One thing the show mentions only briefly was the support of labor unions for restricting immigration. People thought that this would help the economy. What actually happened was the Great Depression. How’d that work out for ya?

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2022 • 8:20:46pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 18, 2022 • 8:21:05pm

PBS understandably turned off comments on this video, related to their new documentary:

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A Cranky One  Sep 18, 2022 • 8:22:11pm

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retired cynic  Sep 18, 2022 • 8:26:32pm

re: #49 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Thank you for posting.

I’m not sure I can watch it and then try to sleep.

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mmmirele  Sep 18, 2022 • 8:34:43pm

If you had *any* doubt that DeSantis was going there…yeah, he went there.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2022 • 8:37:08pm

(This is just an observation, not a cry for help, I’m not anywhere near that) Sometimes, when the ache hits, I want to sleep through it until things are better. And other times, I want it to burn so hot it consumes me until there is nothing of me left.

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sagehen  Sep 18, 2022 • 8:43:32pm

re: #47 garzooma

One thing the show mentions only briefly was the support of labor unions for restricting immigration. People thought that this would help the economy. What actually happened was the Great Depression. How’d that work out for ya?

Immigration didn’t contribute at all to the (worldwide) Great Depression. Just like 2008, it was caused by bankers and investors doing stupid shit, taking huge risks without understanding what they were risking, and then a bunch of bank failures.

2008 wasn’t as bad as the 1929. crash, only because of various federal policies and regulations that were passed as a result of 1929.

Because this huge Depression was everywhere… Europe went full-scale homicidal fascist. Asia went full-scale homicidal Communist. The US could have easily gone fascist (google “Smedley Butler” and/or “businessman’s plot”), but we lucked out and had a few of the right people in the right places to remain a capitalist democracy.

FDR and the New Deal, including the WPA, gave everybody a buy-in to keep it that way. Now spit at Charles Lindbergh and Father Coughlin, who FDR had to vanquish to be able to stay in place to save us. And thank the lord there was no Twitter and Facebook and Rupert Murdoch back then.

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JC1  Sep 18, 2022 • 8:50:55pm

re: #37 austin_blue

What does that mean? Did they abandon their property? Was there some kind of advantage they gained by abandoning their houses? I’m confused. Or did they have insurance and decided they didn’t want to deal with the inconvenience between the damage and the repair?

Rich people routinely move their households, if they have more than one, based on the weather. This poor mook thinks it’s to stick it to the PR.

He’s upset that they left the island before the hurricane hit. It’s pretty silly to expect someone who can get out, to stick it out.

Native Puerto Ricans have a valid gripe with the tax laws that we passed about a decade ago to attract high net worth individuals to the island. The rules allow people who move to the island to essentially be exempt from all capital gains taxes (including IRS federal taxes) provided that they buy a house in Puerto Rico and spend at least 183 nights on the island. It’s all perfectly legal. The unfair aspect of the law is that it only applies to people who move to Puerto Rico, not people who have lived there before or lived there their entire life. So there is a lot of anger towards the tax rule 22 folks, and this guy channels it into the fact that most of them got out of dodge before the hurricane hit.

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Jay C  Sep 18, 2022 • 8:55:12pm

re: #47 garzooma

One thing the show mentions only briefly was the support of labor unions for restricting immigration. People thought that this would help the economy. What actually happened was the Great Depression. How’d that work out for ya?

Actually, by the early 1930s (the depths of the Depression), immigration into the US had already been restricted - a significant quota Act in 1924, IIRC: spurred by a contemporary surge in prejudicial “nativism” (the ‘20s were the heyday of the KKK). Legal immigration had been made subject to stringent quotas: only the “right sort” of foreigners were admitted - and fairly few even of them. It was believed (not unrealistically at the time), that yes: keeping out poor foreign workers would bolster the labor markets at home: though it didn’t always work out that way: American capitalism was quite adept at exploiting its domestic workforce all on its own. And by the ‘30s, jobs of any kind were in short supply (and basically would be until WWII), so it’s not unusual to consider that unions - having had to claw whatever power they had scrap by scrap, and then almost always by violence - would not want to risk any dilution of their numbers by immigrants if they could help it. And, of course, unionized industrial workers were as likely to be prejudiced as any other Americans: their own ethnic histories notwithstanding.

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Captain Ron  Sep 18, 2022 • 9:02:53pm
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Belafon  Sep 18, 2022 • 9:13:35pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Sep 18, 2022 • 9:15:02pm
A source in the report discusses the events leading up to Miller’s troubles in Iceland, where the actor reportedly spent time with a medicine man by the name of Jasper Young Bear, who they hired as a spiritual advisor. That source, who the publication points out misgendered the actor who goes by they/their pronouns, said of Miller:

“Jasper was telling Ezra that he wasn’t a part of the movement, he was the movement-that he was the next Messiah, and that the Freemasons were sending demons out to kill him.”

While many of the details revealed previously about Miller’s time in Iceland were focused only on the events immediately linked to the days around their arrests. However, in the new details being revealed suggest that Miller’s activities leading up to this were something that should have caused concern long before their first time under police caution. Another source explained:

“He’d talk about the metaverse and the medicine and how they’re the Messiah and what his work is here. They say their spiritual practice is to be among the people-which means party. So, when in Iceland, he was out nonstop. His favorite were raves, where he’d go on benders for two or three days at a time.”

Alleged Details About Ezra Miller’s Recent Issues Suggest The Flash Star’s Disturbing Delusions (Movieweb)

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2022 • 9:24:19pm

Long clip from the NYT about Russia’s work at destroying the Women’s March movement. Adam Silverman at balloon-juice.com is highlighting this in his Ukraine update to talk about Russia still running interference in other countries:

Linda Sarsour awoke on Jan. 23, 2017, logged onto the internet, and felt sick.

The weekend before, she had stood in Washington at the head of the Women’s March, a mobilization against President Donald J. Trump that surpassed all expectations. Crowds had begun forming before dawn, and by the time she climbed up onto the stage, they extended farther than the eye could see.

More than four million people around the United States had taken part, experts later estimated, placing it among the largest single-day protests in the nation’s history.

But then something shifted, seemingly overnight. What she saw on Twitter that Monday was a torrent of focused grievance that targeted her. In 15 years as an activist, largely advocating for the rights of Muslims, she had faced pushback, but this was of a different magnitude. A question began to form in her mind: Do they really hate me that much?

That morning, there were things going on that Ms. Sarsour could not imagine.

More than 4,000 miles away, organizations linked to the Russian government had assigned teams to the Women’s March. At desks in bland offices in St. Petersburg, using models derived from advertising and public relations, copywriters were testing out social media messages critical of the Women’s March movement, adopting the personas of fictional Americans.

They posted as Black women critical of white feminism, conservative women who felt excluded, and men who mocked participants as hairy-legged whiners. But one message performed better with audiences than any other.

It singled out an element of the Women’s March that might, at first, have seemed like a detail: Among its four co-chairs was Ms. Sarsour, a Palestinian American activist whose hijab marked her as an observant Muslim.

Over the 18 months that followed, Russia’s troll factories and its military intelligence service put a sustained effort into discrediting the movement by circulating damning, often fabricated narratives around Ms. Sarsour, whose activism made her a lightning rod for Mr. Trump’s base and also for some of his most ardent opposition.

One hundred and fifty-two different Russian accounts produced material about her. Public archives of Twitter accounts known to be Russian contain 2,642 tweets about Ms. Sarsour, many of which found large audiences, according to an analysis by Advance Democracy Inc., a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization that conducts public-interest research and investigations.

But there is also a story that has not been told, one that only emerged years later in academic research, of how Russia inserted itself into this moment.

For more than a century, Russia and the Soviet Union sought to weaken their adversaries in the West by inflaming racial and ethnic tensions. In the 1960s, K.G.B. officers based in the United States paid agents to paint swastikas on synagogues and desecrate Jewish cemeteries. They forged racist letters, supposedly from white supremacists, to African diplomats.

They did not invent these social divisions; America already had them. Ladislav Bittman, who worked for the secret police in Czechoslovakia before defecting to the United States, compared Soviet disinformation programs to an evil doctor who expertly diagnoses the patient’s vulnerabilities and exploits them, “prolongs his illness and speeds him to an early grave instead of curing him.”

A decade ago, Russia’s president, Vladimir V. Putin, oversaw a revival of these tactics, seeking to undermine democracies around the world from the shadows.

Social media now provided an easy way to feed ideas into American discourse, something that, for half a century, the K.G.B. had struggled to do. And the Russian government secretly funneled more than $300 million to political parties in more than two dozen countries in an effort to sway their policies in Moscow’s favor since 2014, according to a U.S. intelligence review made public last week.

What effect these intrusions had on American democracy is a question that will be with us for years. It may be unanswerable. Already, social media was amplifying Americans’ political impulses, leaving behind a trail of damaged communities. Already, trust in institutions was declining, and rage was flaring up in public life. These things would have been true without Russian interference.

But to trace the Russian intrusions over the months that followed that first Women’s March is to witness a persistent effort to make all of them worse.

In early 2017, the trolling operation was in its imperial phase, swelling with confidence.

Accounts at the Internet Research Agency, an organization based in St. Petersburg and controlled by a Putin ally, had boasted of propelling Mr. Trump to victory. That year, the group’s budget nearly doubled, according to internal communications made public by U.S. prosecutors. More than a year would pass before social media platforms executed sweeping purges of Russian-backed sock-puppet accounts.

For the trolls, it was a golden hour.

Under these auspicious conditions, their goals shifted from electoral politics to something more general — the goal of deepening rifts in American society, said Alex Iftimie, a former federal prosecutor who worked on a 2018 case against an administrator at Project Lakhta, which oversaw the Internet Research Agency and other Russian trolling operations.

“It wasn’t exclusively about Trump and Clinton anymore,” said Mr. Iftimie, now a partner at Morrison Foerster. “It was deeper and more sinister and more diffuse in its focus on exploiting divisions within society on any number of different levels.”

There was a routine: Arriving for a shift, workers would scan news outlets on the ideological fringes, far left and far right, mining for extreme content that they could publish and amplify on the platforms, feeding extreme views into mainstream conversations.

Artyom Baranov, who worked at one of Project Lakhta’s affiliates from 2018 to 2020, concluded that his co-workers were, for the most part, people who needed the money, indifferent to the themes they were asked to write on.

“If they were assigned to write text about refrigerators, they would write about refrigerators, or, say, nails, they would write about nails,” said Mr. Baranov, one of a handful of former trolls who have spoken on the record about their activities. But instead of refrigerators and nails, it was “Putin, Putin, then Putin, and then about Navalny,” referring to Aleksei Navalny, the jailed opposition leader.

The job was not to put forward arguments, but to prompt a visceral, emotional reaction, ideally one of “indignation,” said Mr. Baranov, a psychoanalyst by training, who was assigned to write posts on Russian politics. “The task is to make a kind of explosion, to cause controversy,” he said.

When a post succeeded at enraging a reader, he said, a co-worker would sometimes remark, with satisfaction, Liberala razorvala. A liberal was torn apart. “It wasn’t on the level of discussing facts or giving new arguments,” he said. “It’s always a way of digging into dirty laundry.”

Feminism was an obvious target, because it was viewed as a “Western agenda,” and hostile to the traditional values that Russia represented, said Mr. Baranov, who spoke about his work in hopes of warning the public to be more skeptical of material online. Already, for months, Russian accounts purporting to belong to Black women had been drilling down on racial rifts within American feminism:

“White feminism seems to be the most stupid 2k16 trend”

“Watch Muhammad Ali shut down a white feminist criticizing his arrogance”

“Aint got time for your white feminist bullshit”

“Why black feminists don’t owe Hillary Clinton their support”

“A LIL LOUDER FOR THE WHITE FEMINISTS IN THE BACK”

In January 2017, as the Women’s March drew nearer, they tested different approaches on different audiences, as they had during the run-up to the 2016 presidential election. They posed as resentful trans women, poor women and anti-abortion women. They dismissed the marchers as pawns of the Jewish billionaire George Soros.

And they derided the women who planned to participate, often in crudely sexual terms. In coordination, beginning on Jan. 19, 46 Russian accounts pumped out 459 original suggestions for #RenameMillionWomenMarch, a hashtag created by a right-wing podcaster from Indiana:

The Why Doesn’t Anybody Love Me March

The Strong Women Constantly Playing the Victim March

The Lonely Cat Lady March

The Cramp Camp

The Bearded Women Convention

Broken Broads Bloviating

The Liberal Trail of Tears

Coyote Ugly Bitchfest

In the meantime, another, far more effective line of messaging was developing.

But 48 hours after the march, a shift of tone occurred online, with a surge of posts describing Ms. Sarsour as a radical jihadi who had infiltrated American feminism. Ms. Sarsour recalls this vividly, because she woke to a worried text message from a friend and glanced at Twitter to find that she was trending.

Not all of this backlash was organic. That week, Russian amplifier accounts began circulating posts that focused on Ms. Sarsour, many of them inflammatory and based on falsehoods, claiming she was a radical Islamist, “a pro-ISIS Anti USA Jew Hating Muslim” who “was seen flashing the ISIS sign.”

Some of these posts found a large audience. At 7 p.m. on Jan. 21, an Internet Research Agency account posing as @TEN_GOP, a fictional right-wing American from the South, tweeted that Ms. Sarsour favored imposing Shariah law in the United States, playing into a popular anti-Muslim conspiracy theory that Mr. Trump had helped to popularize on the campaign trail.

This message took hold, racking up 1,686 replies, 8,046 retweets and 6,256 likes. An hour later, @PrisonPlanet, an influential right-wing account, posted a tweet on the same theme. The following day, nearly simultaneously, a small army of 1,157 right-wing accounts picked up the narrative, publishing 1,659 posts on the subject, according to an analysis conducted by the online analytics firm Graphika on behalf of The Times.

Vladimir Barash, Graphika’s chief scientist, said the pattern of interference was “strategically similar” to troll activity targeting the vast anti-Putin protests of 2011 and 2012, with sock-puppet accounts “similarly trying to hijack the conversation, sometimes succeeding.”

“There is some circumstantial evidence that they learned in a domestic context and then tried to replicate their success in a foreign context,” Dr. Barash said.

nytimes.com

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retired cynic  Sep 18, 2022 • 9:24:38pm

re: #59 Crush White Nationalism

He came across on screen as so troubled, haunted, it made me uncomfortable to watch him. I hope he gets help.

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JC1  Sep 18, 2022 • 9:26:39pm

3/6, back on a roll.

Wordle 457 3/6

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2022 • 9:31:32pm

re: #60 Belafon

And I remember this, and I, as a man, remember being so frustrated at how it was succeeding and why people couldn’t see through it. I remember the accusation that she was following Luis Farrakahn (?sp).

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retired cynic  Sep 18, 2022 • 9:41:31pm

re: #63 Belafon

I remember it, too, and felt so frustrated. That march made me feel SO GOOD, and then afterwards, the energy just circled the drain. And it didn’t make sense! Now, of course, it does.

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Captain Ron  Sep 18, 2022 • 10:02:12pm
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Belafon  Sep 18, 2022 • 10:11:02pm

re: #64 retired cynic

I remember it, too, and felt so frustrated. That march made me feel SO GOOD, and then afterwards, the energy just circled the drain. And it didn’t make sense! Now, of course, it does.

Adam points out in the replies that NAFO has been effective in countering Russian propaganda by rapidly responding. And it’s not like that group has had to be imaginative and try to write a coherent counterargument, instead, they make it look ridiculous. Kind of like when teens were responding with KPop.

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Captain Ron  Sep 18, 2022 • 10:15:17pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 18, 2022 • 10:22:59pm

Like Grunthos, took me 5.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 18, 2022 • 10:42:54pm

Worth reading the link:

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Captain Ron  Sep 18, 2022 • 11:11:01pm
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Nyet  Sep 19, 2022 • 12:06:35am

re: #58 Belafon

Ah, Chuck is now reduced to spreading to what in effect amounts to Nazi propaganda.

Here’s his “source”:

Except what do the Buryats (an ethnic minority from Russia) have to do with this? The photo doesn’t depict any Buryats, these are drafted soldiers from Yakutia from a pre-war photo (so it’s not evidence that any of them have anything to do with Bucha in the first place; all of them may be staying at home for all we know).

There’s no evidence of actual Buryats having massacred anyone in Bucha and they constitute less than 2 % of the brigade.

holod.media

Iframe

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TLDR: this is a racist story spread in the Ukrainian segment of the internet, partially fueled by rumors, by some unscrupulous officials (like Denisova, since fired for spreading fake rape stories). (Some witnesses now began to use the word “Buryat” to describe any Asian-looking perpetrator under this memetic influence).

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 19, 2022 • 12:21:41am
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Captain Ron  Sep 19, 2022 • 12:25:18am

OMG the fall colors might not be as good this year!

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Captain Ron  Sep 19, 2022 • 12:28:30am
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Sep 19, 2022 • 12:32:14am

re: #70 Captain Ron

More detail from Flying Magazine.

Reno Jet Gold Race Ends in Tragedy

A dusty series of races for 2022 ended abruptly this afternoon. Reno Air Racing Association’s (RARA) Stihl National Championship Air Races saw tragedy in the Jet Gold race today, with pilot Aaron Hogue flying into the dirt in his L-29, Ballista.

The L-29 is a Czech built trainer from the Cold War era. It is roughly comparable to the American T-37. Pilots I’ve talked to say it is a very nice plane to fly but a little maintenance heavy. The Reno races have been plagued with smoke and dust from nearby wildfires all week and I am wondering if this might have been a factor in the crash.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 19, 2022 • 12:35:38am

Delightful song:

Youtube Video


..

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 19, 2022 • 12:45:58am

It’s 1974 and Marlon Perkins fears for the extinction of the Vicuna, but hopes that a conservation plan will work:

Youtube Video


..

However, it seems the hoped-for preservation strategy did indeed work, according to Wikipedia:

Both under the rule of the Inca and today, vicuñas have been protected by law, but they were heavily hunted in the intervening period. At the time they were declared endangered in 1974, only about 6,000 animals were left. Today, the vicuña population has recovered to about 350,000,[1] and although conservation organizations have reduced its level of threat classification, they still call for active conservation programs to protect populations from poaching, habitat loss, and other threats.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 19, 2022 • 12:56:26am

If nothing else, Westminster Abbey looks as impressive as ever:

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Captain Ron  Sep 19, 2022 • 1:14:50am
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Sep 19, 2022 • 1:17:31am

Migrants reportedly put on a plane from Texas to Sacramento not knowing who purchased the tickets and had to walk barefoot from California airport to a local charity

A group of migrants were reportedly flown to northern California from Texas, and are not clear who purchased their tickets — leaving many unanswered questions, per local news.

Eight people from Venezeula arrived in Sacramento on two different flights, KCRA reported on Saturday. Three of them had to walk barefoot from the Sacramento International Airport to a local charity after arriving in the city.

According to CBS News, the group was given paperwork directing them to a shelter that turned out to be an office building for Catholic Charities, which provides social services to people in need.

The men were eventually connected to a city food bank, which contacted NorCal Resist, a local grassroots advocacy group.

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Nyet  Sep 19, 2022 • 1:28:09am

re: #71 Nyet

Aaand here’s another ass demonizing a marginalized ethnic minority based on false accusations.

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sagehen  Sep 19, 2022 • 1:30:02am

I’m watching the Queen stuff on PBS, I think they’re using the BBC feed, and I have to say…

those Brits really know a thing or two about ceremony and spectacle. Not sure if I’d be loving the pomp so much if it was my tax money paying for it. But of course it’s not; for me, it’s just Game of Thrones many generations later. There’s gonna be a dragon, I just know it.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Sep 19, 2022 • 1:30:32am

re: #68 Hecuba’s daughter

Like Grunthos, took me 5.

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It’s that fourth letter isn’t it? If you didn’t pick it early, it’s a problem.

All four of my sisters got it in three, leaving me holding the wooden spoon.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Sep 19, 2022 • 1:44:39am

re: #78 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

If nothing else, Westminster Abbey looks as impressive as ever:

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It gives me chills to think about what the world was like when these awe-inspiring structures were built. A few thousand people lived in London, roads were dirt tracks, wolves lurked in the nearby forests. What was it like for the people of that time to walk into a building like this?

It is a little like Ole Roemer calculating the speed of light in 1667. What was it like for a man who used candles and a quill pen to deal with distances in the millions of miles and put that pen to parchment to come up with a figure very close to the currently accepted value?

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sagehen  Sep 19, 2022 • 1:56:11am

en.wikipedia.org

William the Conqueror had his coronation there, in 1066. (the building’s had a lot of work since then, enough to be almost a whole different building).

The first person buried in Poets Corner was Geoffrey Chaucer, in 1400.

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Nyet  Sep 19, 2022 • 1:57:57am

And here Chucky simply multiplies the real number of Polish officers shot in the Katyn (sic) wood (4000+) by 5.

Seems like his historical ignorance is about the same as his modern day ignorance.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 19, 2022 • 1:59:00am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 19, 2022 • 2:09:00am

Seems like half the world’s leaders are filing into Westminster.

I can only presume every alphabet agency is on duty figuring out the security.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 19, 2022 • 2:24:44am

So BoJo arrives (several former PMs arrived as a group) with some young thing by his side… the BBC announcer did the recognizing thing for Johnson then paused about two seconds an in a hushed tone said “and his wife” very quickly.

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Nyet  Sep 19, 2022 • 2:26:52am

re: #88 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Seems like half the world’s leaders are filing into Westminster.

I can only presume every alphabet agency is on duty figuring out the security.

I can only presume Putin’s finger is more itchy than ever…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 19, 2022 • 2:30:37am

re: #90 Nyet

I can only presume Putin’s finger is more itchy than ever…

I’m sure there are many wannabes around the world who desire to make a name for themselves, but are stopped by countless alphabet agencies.

Putin - I have no idea. I presume he is not upset at being not invited but this funeral does not seem to be a thing he can exploit.

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Nyet  Sep 19, 2022 • 2:52:23am

re: #91 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Some Russians dream of an atomic mushroom above London…

Youtube Video

unotices.com

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 19, 2022 • 2:52:53am

So the coffin is moved with all the regalia on top. I don’t know if these are duplicates or the real things. The latter being extremely valuable:

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TarHellion  Sep 19, 2022 • 2:57:18am

Getting the week going with a solid birbie 3. Gonna heat back up this week - perhaps even toward 90. But the humidity has been far more reasonable. Back to the salt mines - Friday will mark 4 years since joining my current organization. Have a great week everyone!

Wordle 457 3/6

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Sep 19, 2022 • 2:57:32am

re: #93 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So the coffin is moved with all the regalia on top. I don’t know if these are duplicates or the real things. The latter being extremely valuable:

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Pretty sure they’re the real things. Valuable, yes, but not fragile.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 19, 2022 • 3:19:05am

BBC getting fancy with the camera work.

The final people walking in are the children and spouses, taking their seats at the left of the coffin, with the grandchildren or great grandchildren behind them. Right of the coffin are I think other relatives in the first few rows, with the many rows behind them the somebodies of the realm.

The mass to the left behind the family are all heads of states and spouses.

The not-quite-somebodies are not on-screen. They are off to the top in the outer section of the abby, where the not-so-holy commoners used to sit.

Quite the shot.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 19, 2022 • 3:19:51am

Ooops, forgot the image:

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 19, 2022 • 3:20:37am

Well, it’s a result.

Wordle 457 6/6

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 19, 2022 • 3:26:09am

Monday morning’s happy thought, amidst the funeral proceedings of Her Majesty, THE Queen:

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Dangerman  Sep 19, 2022 • 3:58:50am

Man who thinks he’s some kind of privileged white man is incensed he’s no different from me or you a random black person in their own home. Shoes? At !east you didn’t get shot.

Donald Trump took to Truth Social to fume about the FBI’s raid of Mar-a-Lago, accusing agents of not taking off their shoes when searching his bedroom, Insider reports.

Said Trump: “It was ‘ransacked,’ and in far different condition than the way I left it.”

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Dangerman  Sep 19, 2022 • 4:01:37am

re: #77 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It’s 1974 and Marlon Perkins fears for the extinction of the Vicuna, but hopes that a conservation plan will work:

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..

However, it seems the hoped-for preservation strategy did indeed work, according to Wikipedia:

We named “our” green heroin for Marlon.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2022 • 4:04:05am

re: #73 Captain Ron

OMG the fall colors might not be as good this year!

A lot of our trees started losing leaves in July and August over heat and drought stress.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2022 • 4:06:02am

re: #101 Dangerman

We named “our” green heroin for Marlon.

only tried mexican brown and china white…

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sagehen  Sep 19, 2022 • 4:15:41am

re: #101 Dangerman

We named “our” green heroin for Marlon.

Freudian slip?

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sagehen  Sep 19, 2022 • 4:23:16am
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Nyet  Sep 19, 2022 • 4:28:48am

re: #71 Nyet

Here’s the same study by the Free Buryatia Foundation as above, only in text form, thus can be easier translated. Won’t stop the racist pricks spreading their “bloody Buryats” narrative in the style of the Goebbelsian “Untermensch” brochure, but at least it’s something.

freeburyatia.org

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Dangerman  Sep 19, 2022 • 4:39:07am

re: #103 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

only tried mexican brown and china white…

re: #104 sagehen

Freudian slip?

i’d blame it on autocorrect, but it was probably fat fingers and pre-coffee eyes

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Dangerman  Sep 19, 2022 • 4:40:22am

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No Malarkey!  Sep 19, 2022 • 4:44:54am

re: #108 Dangerman

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Good thread on the role rallies play in support of fascism.

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Dangerman  Sep 19, 2022 • 4:53:50am

the spy45 rally

;-)

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Dangerman  Sep 19, 2022 • 4:56:55am

re: #109 No Malarkey!

The Wave
the book, the movie, the other movie…

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Varek Raith  Sep 19, 2022 • 4:57:34am

re: #110 Dangerman

the spy45 rally

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;-)

-_-

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Dangerman  Sep 19, 2022 • 5:07:36am

A new New York Times/Siena poll finds Joe Biden leading Donald Trump in a possible 2024 rematch, 45% to 42%.

the problem with the NYT:

reporting on spy45’s reelection chances as if his match up against biden is normal

not mentioning that he’s nearly a seditious traitor, in trouble up to his eyeballs, and clearly courting, of not actually in bed with fascists and loons

it’s immoral and disgusting that the Times normalizes him by leaving out the critical context that his support in this poll are absolutely insane and/or vicious authoritarians.
(OK, Nazis)

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Dangerman  Sep 19, 2022 • 5:08:37am

re: #112 Varek Raith

-_-

i was stunned by the spectacle.
i fell over

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Varek Raith  Sep 19, 2022 • 5:11:46am

re: #114 Dangerman

i was stunned by the spectacle.
i fell over

One could only nod in agreement while backing away to the exit.

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Dangerman  Sep 19, 2022 • 5:12:07am

he’s claiming he invented human trafficking

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Dangerman  Sep 19, 2022 • 5:13:12am

re: #116 Dangerman

notice how he fumes at desantis but couldnt care about abbott because of which one is a 2024 threat

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Varek Raith  Sep 19, 2022 • 5:13:20am

I feel so bad for The Onion.
:(

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2022 • 5:14:15am
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Dangerman  Sep 19, 2022 • 5:16:26am
“Never before has a former president faced an array of federal, state and congressional investigations as extensive as Mr. Trump has, the cumulative consequences of a career in business and eventually politics lived on the edge, or perhaps over the edge. Whether it be his misleading business practices or his efforts to overturn a democratic election or his refusal to hand over sensitive government documents that did not belong to him, Mr. Trump’s disparate legal troubles stem from the same sense that rules constraining others did not apply to him.”

nyt

america should be so proud

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Varek Raith  Sep 19, 2022 • 5:17:24am

re: #120 Dangerman

nyt

america should be so proud

WE’RE NUMBER ONE!
WE’RE NUMBER ONE!
WE’RE NUMBER ONE!
WE’RE NUMBER ONE!

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No Malarkey!  Sep 19, 2022 • 5:21:24am

re: #113 Dangerman

A new New York Times/Siena poll finds Joe Biden leading Donald Trump in a possible 2024 rematch, 45% to 42%.

the problem with the NYT:

reporting on spy45’s reelection chances as if his match up against biden is normal

not mentioning that he’s nearly a seditious traitor, in trouble up to his eyeballs, and clearly courting, of not actually in bed with fascists and loons

it’s immoral and disgusting that the Times normalizes him by leaving out the critical context that his support in this poll are absolutely insane and/or vicious authoritarians.
(OK, Nazis)

I dreamt last night that Trump was signing an agreement to go into exile to avoid trial, and for awhile in my semi-awake state, I thought it was happening. Sigh.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 19, 2022 • 5:23:47am

Jury selection begins today in the trial of the insurrectionist who led the mob chasing Officer Goodman in the Capitol.

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lawhawk  Sep 19, 2022 • 5:30:22am

First Atlantic hurricane of season makes landfall in both Puerto Rico and Dominican Republic. It came ashore in PR hours after becoming a cat 1 storm; strengthened slightly as winds topped 90 mph as it came ashore in the DR.

We’re getting into peak hurricane season. It had been quiet.

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jeffreyw  Sep 19, 2022 • 5:31:03am

Potato Soup

Good morning!

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Nyet  Sep 19, 2022 • 5:37:15am

Iframe

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Context: meduza.io

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Ming5000  Sep 19, 2022 • 5:42:05am

In case you have never been super brave in the face of a home invasion, this will make you feel better.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2022 • 5:48:38am

re: #108 Dangerman

ask any German about the relationship between runaway inflation and the rise of Fascism…

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lawhawk  Sep 19, 2022 • 5:51:18am

Today’s Monday, which means it’s time for an update on the Trumpworld crime spree ledger and prosecutions:

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Nyet  Sep 19, 2022 • 5:51:41am

re: #126 Nyet

Pugachyova in the Swedish program Jacobs stege (apparently in 1988).

Youtube Video

“Time for peace, no time for war
What we should be asking for?
Speak up loudly rich and poor
Time for peace, no time for war
Can we live our lives with fire?”

Today officially an offense in Russia.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 19, 2022 • 5:57:24am

What the actual F’ing F? 5/6

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I guess I should be happy since there were three others I could have gone with. Jeez.

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John Hughes  Sep 19, 2022 • 5:59:15am

re: #128 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

ask any German about the relationship between runaway inflation and the rise of Fascism…

Runaway inflation? Has it passed 1000% in the US yet?

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sagehen  Sep 19, 2022 • 6:00:48am

re: #132 John Hughes

Runaway inflation? Has it passed 1000% in the US yet?

It’s still well below what it was in the late 1970’s/early 1980’s.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2022 • 6:04:44am

Inflation puts a pin in one of America’s key virtues: saving money. Why even bother when inflation exceeds interest rates?

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No Malarkey!  Sep 19, 2022 • 6:04:54am

re: #132 John Hughes

Runaway inflation? Has it passed 1000% in the US yet?

The Republicans caught the car, and its backing over them. Abortion rights has replaced inflation as the #1 issue with voters.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 19, 2022 • 6:08:51am

re: #135 No Malarkey!

The Republicans caught the car, and its backing over them. Abortion rights has replaced inflation as the #1 issue with voters.

Funny how women do not want a part as handmaid in the republican drama.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2022 • 6:26:28am

Appreciate the hints.
🌳

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William Lewis  Sep 19, 2022 • 6:34:20am

Good morning, all.

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Florida Panhandler  Sep 19, 2022 • 6:34:59am

re: #113 Dangerman

The problem with the NYT and other major media organizations is that they are businesses that are already planning on not just surviving, but thriving economically in a post-democracy hybrid regime.

‘Both sides” coverage gives them cover for when the eventual fascist takeover happens, they can merely offer that “the best side prevailed” and proceed to toe-lick our new dictatorship.

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lizardofid  Sep 19, 2022 • 6:51:15am

I managed to pull out of the dreaded death spiral. Wordle 457 6/6

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 19, 2022 • 7:03:28am

re: #62 JC1

3/6, back on a roll.

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Same here. I went with a different starting word today that paid off.

Wordle 457 3/6

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2022 • 7:04:32am
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 19, 2022 • 7:05:09am

Meh.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2022 • 7:05:22am

re: #137 HRH Stanley Sea

Appreciate the hints.
🌳

I always appreciate the hide

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Varek Raith  Sep 19, 2022 • 7:06:51am
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A Cranky One  Sep 19, 2022 • 7:07:59am

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 19, 2022 • 7:08:42am

Wordle 457 5/6

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🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

Would have had it in 4 if I didn’t brain fart on #3 and use a letter I’d already guessed. D’oh!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2022 • 7:09:28am

re: #146 A Cranky One

Lindsey Graham was still reading it and disappointed that he did not get any hair care tips out of it…

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2022 • 7:11:21am
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Varek Raith  Sep 19, 2022 • 7:13:38am

re: #146 A Cranky One

Lol

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Dangerman  Sep 19, 2022 • 7:19:01am

re: #149 Belafon

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“See how Miss Florida here came to kiss my ass like all the others”

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Dangerman  Sep 19, 2022 • 7:24:31am

From yesterday:

re: #99 Dangerman

Today is the Scottish half marathon.
Niece 1 has been training for it.
Shes registered here as Superspy, but rarely posts.

It’s an 11am start.
I’m running in sync from sofla, so off in a few.

Her first race, her first half.
She’s gonna have great race.

! am pleased and proud to report:

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 19, 2022 • 7:25:21am

Found this poking around on the intertubes:

Youtube Video

Pretty good.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2022 • 7:26:21am

re: #149 Belafon

That would actually make a great taunt for Beto and Crist: “How can you expect to defeat Trump if you won’t even debate me?”

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 19, 2022 • 7:34:49am

re: #83 Grunthos the Flatulent

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Yep — the 4th letter. My old start words included that letter — the ones I’ve been using for the past couple months switched it out for a different common letter. Too many choices if you don’t get that letter.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 19, 2022 • 7:38:58am

re: #125 jeffreyw

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I love a good potato soup. My mom could make a killer potato soup.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 19, 2022 • 7:40:20am

Shit just keeps getting shadier and shadier

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2022 • 7:42:22am

re: #153 Dr Lizardo

definitely has the 80’s MTV vibes…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2022 • 7:43:01am

re: #157 Eclectic Cyborg

Shit just keeps getting shadier and shadier

“It’s okay to lie to illegal immigrants!”

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jeffreyw  Sep 19, 2022 • 7:46:50am

re: #156 Eventual Carrion

I love a good potato soup. My mom could make a killer potato soup.

Kudos to her for getting those homicidal spuds off the streets.

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Superspy  Sep 19, 2022 • 7:58:11am

re: #152 Dangerman

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Nyet  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:00:04am

re: #130 Nyet

Pugachyova in the Swedish program Jacobs stege (apparently in 1988).

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“Time for peace, no time for war
What we should be asking for?
Speak up loudly rich and poor
Time for peace, no time for war
Can we live our lives with fire?”

Today officially an offense in Russia.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:02:02am

re: #161 Superspy

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:06:42am

This is horrific. Is this judge a Trump appointee?

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JC1  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:07:49am

re: #86 Nyet

And here Chucky simply multiplies the real number of Polish officers shot in the Katyn (sic) wood (4000+) by 5.

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Seems like his historical ignorance is about the same as his modern day ignorance.

The total number of poles executed in Katyn was over 20k. Besides military officers, various civic officials, teachers, etc were executed.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:08:28am

re: #113 Dangerman

A new New York Times/Siena poll finds Joe Biden leading Donald Trump in a possible 2024 rematch, 45% to 42%.

the problem with the NYT:

reporting on spy45’s reelection chances as if his match up against biden is normal

not mentioning that he’s nearly a seditious traitor, in trouble up to his eyeballs, and clearly courting, of not actually in bed with fascists and loons

it’s immoral and disgusting that the Times normalizes him by leaving out the critical context that his support in this poll are absolutely insane and/or vicious authoritarians.
(OK, Nazis)

Not nearly a seditious traitor — an actual seditious traitor. And at least 42% of Americans are fascists. Sad commentary on what we are.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:08:36am

re: #164 The Pie Overlord!

This is horrific. Is this judge a Trump appointee?

I can’t click on the video, what happened?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:10:24am
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Dangerman  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:10:43am

re: #166 Hecuba’s daughter

Not nearly a seditious traitor — an actual seditious traitor. And at least 42% of Americans are fascists. Sad commentary on what we are.

i agree but it’s the Times. they’re not gonna say that unless he’s at least charged.
and then it’ll be ‘alleged’ until he’s convicted
and then it’ll be ‘convicted of’ but appealing the verdict…

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:14:26am

re: #167 Belafon

I can’t click on the video, what happened?

Judge sent a victim of domestic violence, suffering from PTSD, to jail for failing to show up in court.

Judge is a Jeb Bush appointee.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:14:39am

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

Been watching it livestream on YouTube. Quite the sendoff, to say the least.

The Brits are absolute masters at pomp and ceremony.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:15:43am

I think that a lot of British people have a dark fear that in burying Elizabeth II, they are watching the beginning of the end of the Monarchy…nobody likes the cranky twat who has taken over.

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Nyet  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:17:00am

re: #165 JC1

The total number of poles executed in Katyn was over 20k. Besides military officers, various civic officials, teachers, etc were executed.

Incorrect, the total number was about 4400. The rest were shot elsewhere. And of that number only under 9000 were officers.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:18:48am

re: #157 Eclectic Cyborg

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Shit just keeps getting shadier and shadier

There’s nothing Trump supporters like more than racist liars, especially those who are cruel and delight in harming those who have less power and wealth than they do.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:19:58am

“Actors/athletes/entertainers need to stay out of politics!”:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:21:45am

re: #173 Nyet

Incorrect, the total number was about 4400. The rest were shot elsewhere. And of that number only under 9000 were officers.

still a lot of executions

I remember that my home town was full of Poles and there were long and ongoing panel discussions of the Katyn Massacre and who was responsible for it, the Red army or the Wehrmacht.

I understand that this was an important issue during the days of the Cold War, but in the end it is basically as irrelevant argument between two crackheads who had broken into a house and killed the entire family in their sleep and then started arguing about which one of the two had strangled grandma…

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JC1  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:22:28am

re: #173 Nyet

Incorrect, the total number was about 4400. The rest were shot elsewhere. And of that number only under 9000 were officers.

Sources? According to Wikipedia, the minimum number of confirmed dead in the Katyn massacre was over 19k.
en.m.wikipedia.org

Seems like you’re trying to minimize Soviet war crimes in a weird pursuit of pedanticism.

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Nyet  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:23:48am

re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s not about whether it’s a lot, it’s about Chuck’s veracity.

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lizardofid  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:23:57am

re: #172 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I think that a lot of British people have a dark fear that in burying Elizabeth II, they are watching the beginning of the end of the Monarchy…nobody likes the cranky twat who has taken over.

I reckon a lot of the pomp and ceremony is to imprint the succession in peoples minds. It is Elizabeth II being buried, and not the institution.

That being said, has anybody swung by the Tower of London to check on the crows?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:24:07am

re: #175 Dr. Matt

“Actors/athletes/entertainers need to stay out of politics!”:

That was the law in ancient Rome, such figures were forbidden from running for public office.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:25:32am

re: #179 lizardofid

I reckon a lot of the pomp and ceremony is to imprint the succession in peoples minds. It is Elizabeth II being buried, and not the institution.

The institution took a hard blow with the loss of Lizzie and I cannot see it recovering much under her asshole son.

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William Lewis  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:25:48am

re: #179 lizardofid

They probably clipped their pinion feathers like they did in WWII so that they couldn’t fly away … ;)

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Nyet  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:25:48am

re: #177 JC1

Sources? According to Wikipedia, the minimum number of confirmed dead in the Katyn massacre was over 19k.
en.m.wikipedia.org

Seems like you’re trying to minimize Soviet war crimes in a weird pursuit of pedanticism.

You obviously did not bother to read even the wiki article. That and accusing me, of all people, of trying to minimize Katyn, is really going beyond mere ignorance.

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William Lewis  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:26:51am

re: #181 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The institution took a hard blow with the loss of Lizzie and I cannot see it recovering much under her asshole son.

If he’s a short timer and Camile keeps him on a short leash, he might not do too much damage before William takes over and he’s far better liked than Charles.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:27:20am

re: #164 The Pie Overlord!

This is horrific. Is this judge a Trump appointee?

No, she’s a state court judge.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:30:02am

re: #98 Dopamine Fish

Well, it’s a result.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:31:52am

re: #172 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I think that a lot of British people have a dark fear that in burying Elizabeth II, they are watching the beginning of the end of the Monarchy…nobody likes the cranky twat who has taken over.

One cranky twat isn’t going to end a thousand+ year old institution. Charles will be king for about 20 years, max; to the Brits that’s like putting up with an obnoxious relative over a long weekend.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:32:17am

re: #184 William Lewis

If he’s a short timer and Camile keeps him on a short leash, he might not do too much damage before William takes over and he’s far better liked than Charles.

Charles III is certainly no spring chicken. If he’s lucky, he’ll live as long as his parents (mid-to-late 90s), so another 25 years, let’s say. Then William takes over, at the age of (more or less) 65 or so.

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JC1  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:35:28am

re: #183 Nyet

You obviously did not bother to read even the wiki article. That and accusing me, of all people, of trying to minimize Katyn, is really going beyond mere ignorance.

I read it, and I’m familiar with the story from before. How are you not trying to minimize it? Number of dead estimated at 22k. Not all of them officers, sure. Not all of them killed in the same forest, sure. But the events are generally refered to as the Katyn massacre.
In historical terms, those are minor pedantic issues compared to simply stating that the number wasn’t 22k but only 4k, without providing further nuance.

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Nyet  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:37:50am

re: #177 JC1

Sources? According to Wikipedia, the minimum number of confirmed dead in the Katyn massacre was over 19k.
en.m.wikipedia.org

Seems like you’re trying to minimize Soviet war crimes in a weird pursuit of pedanticism.

Since you don’t read sources you post, let’s do your homework for you:

The Katyn massacre[a] was a series of mass executions of nearly 22,000 Polish military officers and intelligentsia prisoners of war carried out by the Soviet Union, specifically the NKVD (“People’s Commissariat for Internal Affairs”, the Soviet secret police) in April and May 1940. Though the killings also occurred in the Kalinin and Kharkiv prisons and elsewhere, the massacre is named after the Katyn Forest, where some of the mass graves were first discovered by German forces.

(…)

According to Soviet documents declassified in 1990, 21,857 Polish internees and prisoners were executed after 3 April 1940: 14,552 prisoners of war (most or all of them from the three camps) and 7,305 prisoners in western parts of the Byelorussian and Ukrainian SSRs.[27] Of them 4,421 were from Kozelsk, 3,820 from Starobelsk, 6,311 from Ostashkov, and 7,305 from Byelorussian and Ukrainian prisons.[27] The head of the NKVD Administration for Affairs of Prisoners of War and Internees, Pyotr Soprunenko [ru], was involved in “selections” of Polish officers to be executed at Katyn and elsewhere.[28]

Those who died at Katyn included soldiers (an admiral, two generals, 24 colonels, 79 lieutenant colonels, 258 majors, 654 captains, 17 naval captains, 85 privates, 3,420 non-commissioned officers, and seven chaplains), 200 pilots, government representatives and royalty (a prince, 43 officials), and civilians (three landowners, 131 refugees, 20 university professors, 300 physicians; several hundred lawyers, engineers, and teachers; and more than 100 writers and journalists).[24] In all, the NKVD executed almost half the Polish officer corps.[24] Altogether, during the massacre, the NKVD executed 14 Polish generals:[29] Leon Billewicz (ret.), Bronisław Bohatyrewicz (ret.), Xawery Czernicki (admiral), Stanisław Haller (ret.), Aleksander Kowalewski [pl], Henryk Minkiewicz (ret.), Kazimierz Orlik-Łukoski, Konstanty Plisowski (ret.), Rudolf Prich (killed in Lviv), Franciszek Sikorski (ret.), Leonard Skierski (ret.), Piotr Skuratowicz, Mieczysław Smorawiński, and Alojzy Wir-Konas (promoted posthumously).[citation needed] Not all of the executed were ethnic Poles, because the Second Polish Republic was a multiethnic state, and its officer corps included Belarusians, Ukrainians, and Jews.[30] It is estimated about 8% of the Katyn massacre victims were Polish Jews.[30] 395 prisoners were spared from the slaughter,[2] among them Stanisław Swianiewicz and Józef Czapski.[24] They were taken to the Yukhnov camp or Pavlishtchev Bor and then to Gryazovets.[20] Up to 99% of the remaining prisoners were killed. People from the Kozelsk camp were executed in Katyn Forest; people from the Starobelsk camp were killed in the inner NKVD prison of Kharkiv and the bodies were buried near the village of Piatykhatky; and police officers from the Ostashkov camp were killed in the internal NKVD prison of Kalinin (Tver) and buried in Mednoye.[20] All three burial sites had already been secret cemeteries of the victims of the Great Purge of 1937-1938. Later, recreational areas of NKVD/KGB were established there.[31]

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Nyet  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:39:41am

re: #189 JC1

I read it, and I’m familiar with the story from before. How are you not trying to minimize it? Number of dead estimated at 22k. Not all of them officers, sure. Not all of them killed in the same forest, sure. But the events are generally refered to as the Katyn massacre.
In historical terms, those are minor pedantic issues compared to simply stating that the number wasn’t 22k but only 4k, without providing further nuance.

Those are not pedantic issues at all, when someone blathers about 22k officers shot in the Katyn forest, it shows they didn’t bother to get the very basics right.

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JC1  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:44:54am

re: #191 Nyet

Those are not pedantic issues at all, when someone blathers about 22k officers shot in the Katyn forest, it shows they didn’t bother to get the very basics right.

It was a tweet where the number of characters is limited. Sure, he should have stated: 22k polish officers and intelligencia killed in Katyn forest massacre.

Yes, he was technically and factually incorrect.

You come along and claim that the number was only 4k without providing further explanation.

Now, if someone unfamiliar with the history comes along and reads both accounts. Which account would leave them with a more skewed version of events?

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No Malarkey!  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:47:10am
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lawhawk  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:48:47am

re: #172 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I think that a lot of British people have a dark fear that in burying Elizabeth II, they are watching the beginning of the end of the Monarchy…nobody likes the cranky twat who has taken over.

Charles isn’t nearly as loved as Liz was. Charles also wants a stripped down monarchy (whatever the hell that means). Either way, it’ll be different. That’s for sure.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:49:39am

What an amazing kid. Worth the read. Well done, young man.

apple.news

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Nyet  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:49:51am

re: #192 JC1

It was a tweet where the number of characters is limited. Sure, he should have stated: 22k polish officers and intelligencia killed in Katyn forest massacre.

Yes, he was technically and factually incorrect.

You come along and claim that the number was only 4k without providing further explanation.

Now, if someone unfamiliar with the history comes along and reads both accounts. Which account would leave them with a more skewed version of events?

The point of my post was not to provide the history of the Katyn massacre, which anyone can look up for themselves, so your question is a transparent manipulation. The point was that the guy doesn’t bother about basic accuracy, spreads basic misinformation, including racist claims, so don’t post him as a serious source.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 19, 2022 • 8:59:17am

re: #193 No Malarkey!

“The only difference between “reasonable” Republicans and MAGA Republicans is that the “reasonable” ones won’t openly support a violent coup until after it succeeds.”

That is so true. The only reason Bill Barr et al abandoned Trump was that they thought the efforts wouldn’t succeed. There were some who weren’t willing to lie for Trump, such as Raffensperger, but I suspect most would be ok with that if they were sure their lies wouldn’t be detected.

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JC1  Sep 19, 2022 • 9:00:52am

re: #196 Nyet

The point of my post was not to provide the history of the Katyn massacre, which anyone can look up for themselves, so your question is a transparent manipulation. The point was that the guy doesn’t bother about basic accuracy, spreads basic misinformation, including racist claims, so don’t post him as a serious source.

The guy is posting on Twitter, not writing in academic journals. Never heard of him before this thread. He may be all the things you say; I’ve no opinion on it.
I still stand by my statement that your criticism of his Katyn tweet was essentially nitpicking.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2022 • 9:02:09am

re: #197 Hecuba’s daughter

That is so true. The only reason Bill Barr et al abandoned Trump was that they thought the efforts wouldn’t succeed. There were some who weren’t willing to lie for Trump, such as Raffensperger, but I suspect most would be ok with that if they were sure their lies wouldn’t be detected.

There seem to be three strains of Republicans: those who would look the other way and tacitly consent to illegal acts that help Republicans stay in power, whose who actively cheer on such acts becoming directly involved, and those who would actively commit such acts.

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Dangerman  Sep 19, 2022 • 9:05:40am

re: #195 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What an amazing kid. Worth the read. Well done, young man.

apple.news

to make a small point (and yes, I understand his opponent was a mere 47 years old):

When ‘young’ people say those in government are too old, and should ‘step aside’.
I say no. That’s not how this works.
It’s like saying I’d have a better chance if there was less competition.
If ‘older’ people are winning elections (pelosi, sanders, schumer, even biden on and on), it’s because the voters are choosing them and what they’re offering.

If you want the government to trend younger, THIS is how you do it.
You get involved.
You run.
And if more people like what you’re offering, you win.

Very well done.

ps: if you don’t want to be a public face and run for public office, join your local party. that’s where a lot of the power is

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Nyet  Sep 19, 2022 • 9:07:55am

re: #198 JC1

The guy is posting on Twitter, not writing in academic journals. Never heard of him before this thread. He may be all the things you say; I’ve no opinion on it.
I still stand by my statement that your criticism of his Katyn tweet was essentially nitpicking.

You can’t disconnect what he purports to be (a military analyst dealing with facts, figures, placenames) from my criticism of him (a failure at all three, basic ones at that, in one tweet). Had that been a poet, it would have been nitpicking.

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Nyet  Sep 19, 2022 • 9:13:21am

Meanwhile Putin seems to have chosen to proceed with the formal annexation of the occupied territories through “referenda”.

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Dangerman  Sep 19, 2022 • 9:15:04am

the rains have finally come to sofla.

late september is starting to like like may and june should have

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2022 • 9:21:57am

re: #203 Dangerman

the rains have finally come to sofla.

late september is starting to like like may and june should have

The high is supposed to be 97 on Wednesday and Thursday here in east DFW. Normal high is like 89.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 19, 2022 • 9:23:33am

re: #202 Nyet

Meanwhile Putin seems to have chosen to proceed with the formal annexation of the occupied territories through “referenda”.

LOL why even bother? No one’s going to recognize it and he’s going to lose them anyway. I suppose it can end up being just another item to add to his list of grievances.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2022 • 9:23:58am

It’s even worse than you thought:

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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 19, 2022 • 9:24:50am
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Dangerman  Sep 19, 2022 • 9:25:33am
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A Cranky One  Sep 19, 2022 • 9:27:42am

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No Malarkey!  Sep 19, 2022 • 9:39:30am

For the first time this year. the Democrats’ odds of retaining control of the House exceed the GOP’s odds of winning control of the Senate at fivethirtyeight.com, 29% to 28%. When the lines opened on June 1, the GOP was given a 60% shot at winning the Senate, and an 86% chance of controlling the House.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2022 • 9:49:31am

he seems nice…

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Dr. Matt  Sep 19, 2022 • 9:51:24am

@Backwoods_Sleuth

Look up “Florida Man” in any dictionary, and that face should be the entry.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 19, 2022 • 9:52:00am

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Q Anon Shamans cousin?

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aatharuv  Sep 19, 2022 • 9:53:11am

I’m moderately active on Quora, which has increasingly idiotic computer moderation, and a policy called BNBR (Be Nice Be Respectful), which is increasingly haphazardly applied.

I was trying to think of a non disparaging way to refer to those members of the left who would let the perfect be the enemy of the good, and hand the vote to a Republican who would blow the world up, because “dirtbag left” is the kind of thing that gets things deleted.

I came up with “non-tactical left”. I suppose “tactically challenged myopic left” would also work.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2022 • 9:54:12am

re: #212 Dr. Matt

@Backwoods_Sleuth

Look up “Florida Man” in any dictionary, and that face should be the entry.

this guy, too:

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lawhawk  Sep 19, 2022 • 9:54:26am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2022 • 9:56:06am
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Belafon  Sep 19, 2022 • 9:57:42am

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

“He may love God, and he may be highly qualified for the office, but you want me in there because I’m not those things.”

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lawhawk  Sep 19, 2022 • 9:59:13am

Puerto Rico was hit by a hurricane, the power grid is down, and they’re getting swamped by nearly 24 hours of rain (up to 2 feet or more has already dropped on the mountainous country). That flooding rain has caused massive damage across the country, including destroying roads, bridges, and power grid.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:01:18am

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nice, the “I’m an idiot” excuse.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:02:13am
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No Malarkey!  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:02:50am

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

Makes one wonder why Herschel thinks he is qualified to be a US Senator.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:03:38am

re: #210 No Malarkey!

For the first time this year. the Democrats’ odds of retaining control of the House exceed the GOP’s odds of winning control of the Senate at fivethirtyeight.com, 29% to 28%. When the lines opened on June 1, the GOP was given a 60% shot at winning the Senate, and an 86% chance of controlling the House.

I gave up on political polls sometime during the Obama administration. As I’ve said before, we live in a Literary Digest world. Getting an unbiased honest sample that represents the population of actual voters has become an increasingly challenging task. My decision to join LGF in 2016 was motivated by a desire to support PLL who, pre-election, dissented very vocally here on the outcome of the election because he wouldn’t accept the poll results that showed a Hillary victory.

I don’t have a clue on how the 2022 election will turn out — on the effects of voter suppression in red states — on the anger of women and younger voters because of the Dobbs decision. I know too many people who have drunk the Kool-Aid, people who are financially secure and educated, and it’s disheartening to see how easy it is to brainwash masses of people. It’s comforting to see these numbers but let’s not delude ourselves that they represent anything real.

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A Three Hour Tour  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:08:30am

re: #223 Hecuba’s daughter

I gave up on political polls sometime during the Obama administration. As I’ve said before, we live in a Literary Digest world. Getting an unbiased honest sample that represents the population of actual voters has become an increasingly challenging task. My decision to join LGF in 2016 was motivated by a desire to support PLL who, pre-election, dissented very vocally here on the outcome of the election because he wouldn’t accept the poll results that showed a Hillary victory.

I don’t have a clue on how the 2022 election will turn out — on the effects of voter suppression in red states — on the anger of women and younger voters because of the Dobbs decision. I know too many people who have drunk the Kool-Aid, people who are financially secure and educated, and it’s disheartening to see how easy it is to brainwash masses of people. It’s comforting to see these numbers but let’s not delude ourselves that they represent anything real.

The only poll that really counts is the vote totals on Election Day … and our fascist Republicans are working hard to render even that poll moot.

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ckkatz  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:12:55am

re: #103 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

only tried mexican brown and china white…

How about some Lebanese ‘Blonde’ (hash)

.

Youtube Video

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cat-tikvah  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:15:58am

re: #206 Belafon

It’s even worse than you thought:

At first glance I read “Ultimate Air Shuffle” which seems more fitting

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ckkatz  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:17:55am

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is a replay of the racist Minstrel Shows where the hero is the slow speaking honest farmer, Jim Crow versus the slick, citified evil doer Zip Coon.

I suspect that his white handlers are all over this stuff.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:21:09am

re: #222 No Malarkey!

Makes one wonder why Herschel thinks he is qualified to be a US Senator.

The GOP wanted a black guy of their own to run against Warnock, so they gave Herschel plenty of money and he agreed to do whatever they asked him to.

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Dangerman  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:21:10am

re: #218 Belafon

“He may love God, and he may be highly qualified for the office, but you want me in there because I’m not those things.”

And ill vote the way I’m told

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ckkatz  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:21:49am

re: #208 Dangerman

Yup, if it looks like a fascist, walks like a fascist and quacks like a fascist…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:21:59am

re: #227 ckkatz

GMTA.

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Dangerman  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:23:33am

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

You can be sure Warnock is practicing throttling it back

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ckkatz  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:24:16am

re: #231 Eclectic Cyborg

GMTA.

I suspect that those more familiar with the South and/or in African-American communities are more attuned to this stuff.

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Dangerman  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:24:53am

re: #219 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Puerto Rico was hit by a hurricane, the power grid is down, and they’re getting swamped by nearly 24 hours of rain (up to 2 feet or more has already dropped on the mountainous country). That flooding rain has caused massive damage across the country, including destroying roads, bridges, and power grid.

Thank goodness a real President is at the helm this time

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:26:00am

re: #227 ckkatz

This is a replay of the racist Minstrel Shows where the hero is the slow speaking honest farmer, Jim Crow versus the slick, citified evil doer Zip Coon.

I suspect that his white handlers are all over this stuff.

Being a southerner, my first impression was that Herschel was trying to pull off being an “aw shucks, good ol’ boy”, like most white southern jackasses I’ve known through the years.

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Dangerman  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:26:11am

re: #222 No Malarkey!

Makes one wonder why Herschel thinks he is qualified to be a US Senator.

See. re: #229 Dangerman

And ill vote the way I’m told

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:27:18am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:28:20am

more in the thread

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:29:01am

re: #234 Dangerman

Thank goodness a real President is at the helm this time

yes, one who will demonstrate fiscal responsibility by tearing off individual sheets of paper toweling and handing them out one by one…

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:30:45am

re: #229 Dangerman

And ill vote the way I’m told

Most of us vote based not on the intelligence or knowledge or character of the candidate but on whether they support our views or our policies. It is logical to make decisions based on these attributes, especially given our highly partisan world where you know a candidate will filter all judgements through their party’s philosophy and not based on what’s right, where you know the candidate will select the leader of the House/Senate based solely on their party affiliation, and that leader will control all legislation and activities. We don’t live in the pre-Gingrich pre-Fox world where the parties made serious efforts to work together and investigate/legislate based on what’s best for the country, rather than what’s best for the party.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:31:25am
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John Hughes  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:31:52am

re: #134 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
investopedia.com sez:

The top ten countries by savings rate were Macao, the Republic of the Congo, Qatar, Ireland, Brunei, Singapore, Luxembourg, Gabon, the UAE, and China.

The US seems to have around the 100th biggest savings rate:

en.m.wikipedia.org

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Florida Panhandler  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:34:50am

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

H Walker doesn’t need to be smart. He merely has to display the ability to be a Republican talking point sponge and regurgitate nonsense answers in response to serious questions at debates. The answers are not serious. They are gain-saying word salad meant to distract and confuse voters.

The main deception is that he is an empty vessel that can be controlled by Republican leaders. He is not. He has a pattern of malevolent behavior of overt violence and misogyny. He is not merely just a tool of the “Republican Revival” aka Trump Cult, he is a very active part of it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:38:12am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:39:35am
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Dangerman  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:42:32am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:42:37am
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:45:34am

For all Dem organizations — Please stop for a few days— don’t text me more requests for money/opinions on issues. I am being drowned and need a break!

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Nyet  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:45:41am

re: #205 Dr Lizardo

LOL why even bother? No one’s going to recognize it and he’s going to lose them anyway. I suppose it can end up being just another item to add to his list of grievances.

Psychology behind this should not be entirely dismissed, IMHO. First of all, this makes the “we haven’t promised anything” rhetoric, which could have been used as an excuse in order not to fight to the bitter end, if the “moderate” part of the elites prevailed with time, impossible. Second, it is a way to shift the responsibility for a possible use of nuclear weapons (which has been almost promised conditional on the invasion of “Russia proper”) from the command chain onto the victim. Third, it makes formally declaring a full-scale war and the mobilization easier.

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Captain Ron  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:46:51am
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jaunte  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:47:06am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:47:43am

re: #248 Hecuba’s daughter

For all Dem organizations — Please stop for a few days— don’t text me more requests for money/opinions on issues. I am being drowned and need a break!

And this is why I am so resistant to political donations.

I do donate a bit, but I absolutely HATE being harrassed for more money so I try to keep my donations to minimum.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:51:28am

re: #252 Eclectic Cyborg

And this is why I am so resistant to political donations.

I do donate a bit, but I absolutely HATE being harrassed for more money so I try to keep my donations to minimum.

It’s relentless. I had to delete a couple dozen texts just to see the ones from friends and family.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:51:55am

re: #223 Hecuba’s daughter

I gave up on political polls sometime during the Obama administration. As I’ve said before, we live in a Literary Digest world. Getting an unbiased honest sample that represents the population of actual voters has become an increasingly challenging task. My decision to join LGF in 2016 was motivated by a desire to support PLL who, pre-election, dissented very vocally here on the outcome of the election because he wouldn’t accept the poll results that showed a Hillary victory.

I don’t have a clue on how the 2022 election will turn out — on the effects of voter suppression in red states — on the anger of women and younger voters because of the Dobbs decision. I know too many people who have drunk the Kool-Aid, people who are financially secure and educated, and it’s disheartening to see how easy it is to brainwash masses of people. It’s comforting to see these numbers but let’s not delude ourselves that they represent anything real.

Polling usually gets you in the ballpark, when you have a large enough data set. There is also significance to the fact that the polling has been trending in Democrats’ favor for months. But each election is unique. This is the first midterm of the modern polling era in which one of the two parties has just stripped over half of the electorate of their basic human rights, so I believe there is a chance we could see a blue wave strengthening Democratic control of the federal government, at the exact moment in time that it is most necessary.

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John Hughes  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:52:54am

re: #183 Nyet

en.m.wikipedia.org

People from the Kozelsk camp were executed in Katyn Forest; people from the Starobelsk camp were killed in the inner NKVD prison of Kharkiv and the bodies were buried near the village of Piatykhatky; and police officers from the Ostashkov camp were killed in the internal NKVD prison of Kalinin (Tver) and buried in Mednoye. All three burial sites had already been secret cemeteries of the victims of the Great Purge of 1937-1938. Later, recreational areas of NKVD/KGB were established there.

Nice to know they found some use for the burial sites afterwards.

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darthstar  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:54:11am
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Nyet  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:55:08am

re: #255 John Hughes

en.m.wikipedia.org

Nice to know they found some use for the burial sites afterwards.

It was pretty much in the NKVD-KGB style to either use their dacha areas for this (because already high security) or to build sanatoria or something like that there afterwards.

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jaunte  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:56:21am

re: #256 darthstar

I hope they produced that fake brochure on a color copier.

Computer printers have been quietly embedding tracking codes in documents for decades
qz.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:56:55am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:57:54am

I’d bet anything the RNC Latinos account is run by a white guy.

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ckkatz  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:59:22am

em>re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

Being a southerner, my first impression was that Herschel was trying to pull off being an “aw shucks, good ol’ boy”, like most white southern jackasses I’ve known through the years.

Yes, you are correct.

The rural/city us/them divide is a huge and long lived theme in the US.

During the Civil War, rural Southerners were warned by their leadership to worry about hordes of inner city Irish Catholics invading the ‘bucolic’ Southern homesteads. Currently, Inner City ghetto dwellers is a dogwhistle for African-Americans.

It is effective as well.

Look at the Portland versus rural communities strife happening. In Northern Virginia it is the recently suburbanizing Loudoun County that was the strife center in the last election. Look at how the white Governor of Mississippi treats the predominately black city of Jackson. Or how the previous gqp Michigan state government treated Flint and Detroit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:59:31am

re: #242 John Hughes

investopedia.com sez:

The US seems to have around the 100th biggest savings rate:

en.m.wikipedia.org

Look at mortgages: in Germany you can open a homebuilder’s account, for which the interest is tax-free as long as you use that money to purchase a home. That encourages people to save. This is the opposite of the US mortgage, which allows you to deduct interest payments on a loan. The latter encourages debt.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2022 • 10:59:56am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2022 • 11:01:26am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2022 • 11:01:58am
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ckkatz  Sep 19, 2022 • 11:02:12am

re: #244 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mis-representing oneself as the United States Government. I sort of thought that the feds frowned on that.

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lawhawk  Sep 19, 2022 • 11:03:01am

re: #241 Dave In Austin

In other news… Aaron Judge continues to hold court and now passed Hank Greenberg for most homers by a right hander in the AL after hitting two last night. 58 and 59. He’s two shy of the Yankee and AL record of 61 homers held by Roger Maris set back in 1961.

Oh, and he’s on pace to get a triple crown too - within 1 point on avg to get homers, rbis and avg.

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ckkatz  Sep 19, 2022 • 11:06:13am

re: #267 lawhawk

The only sportsball I caught recently was the game yesterday where the Washington Facepalms managed to exceed even their usual buffoonery and pathos.

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jaunte  Sep 19, 2022 • 11:06:14am

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Dangerman  Sep 19, 2022 • 11:09:50am

Ever notice this?
I didn’t till now

The first letters

Should have impeached trump

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 19, 2022 • 11:12:04am
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darthstar  Sep 19, 2022 • 11:17:41am

Are they done burying the Queen yet? I want to know if it’s safe to turn on the TV after 10 days.

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William Lewis  Sep 19, 2022 • 11:21:24am

re: #272 darthstar

Are they done burying the Queen yet? I want to know if it’s safe to turn on the TV after 10 days.

Don’t forget the next week “looking back” at the spectacle.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 19, 2022 • 11:23:13am

re: #272 darthstar

Are they done burying the Queen yet? I want to know if it’s safe to turn on the TV after 10 days.

Yep, all done.

The next big event would be Charles III’s coronation, but current speculation is that won’t be until next year.

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jaunte  Sep 19, 2022 • 11:24:25am

re: #273 William Lewis

“An epoch has come to an end, but for the denizens of this cozy pub in John o’ Groats, the memories could fill a miniseries. And they will.”

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Nyet  Sep 19, 2022 • 11:27:41am

re: #274 Dr Lizardo

Yep, all done.

The next big event would be Charles III’s coronation, but current speculation is that won’t be until next year.

If we are lucky, maybe never…

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 19, 2022 • 11:28:54am

re: #276 Nyet

If we are lucky, maybe never…

He’s already King, the coronation is just a fancy ceremony when they put the crown on his head and the scepter in his hand. And that orb thingamabob too.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 19, 2022 • 11:30:20am

re: #270 Dangerman

Ever notice this?
I didn’t till now

The first letters

Should have impeached trump

WT04L30rH5NNsHfsg7/fV5iTkf/ZuPb72QCLtmxW+kgufotBiWJVhnsqkIUkDlZ/+qklBLJKWg0CCWMePEfEJodJ/citwTM9XH/Etzn8uag=

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Sep 19, 2022 • 11:32:12am

re: #260 Eclectic Cyborg

I’d bet anything the RNC Latinos account is run by a white guy.

There’s no shortage of white male Latinos.

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Nyet  Sep 19, 2022 • 11:32:35am

re: #277 Dr Lizardo

I know but maybe he’ll be reasonable enough to abdicate until then (naaaah…).

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Sep 19, 2022 • 6:11:45pm

re: #180 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That was the law in ancient Rome, such figures were forbidden from running for public office.

Whatever its other shortcomings (guaranteed slavery etc.) the constitution of the Republic of Texas prohibited priests, ministers and other “men of the cloth” from serving in public office. Much of the republican constitution was carried over into the new state constitution when Texas was annexed to the United States. The no preachers provision had to be omitted, however, since it conflicted with the First Amendment of the federal Constitution.


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