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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 10:30:10am
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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2022 • 10:30:55am
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aatharuv  Sep 26, 2022 • 10:31:38am

Russia detains a Japanese consular official in Vladivostok for engaging in “intelligence activities”, and declaring him persona non grata.

Note that he was a consular official, and not diplomatic official, so only consular immunity rules apply here — he can’t be arrested in the course of his job, but can be arrested for activities unrelated to his job.

Edit: Apparently he was receiving information on the economic impact of sanctions.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Sep 26, 2022 • 10:41:40am

Dark Brandon just trolling TFG

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jeffreyw  Sep 26, 2022 • 10:48:28am
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jaunte  Sep 26, 2022 • 10:53:33am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 26, 2022 • 10:54:37am

“Video unavailable in your country.”

Canada is apparently not permitted to see John Oliver.

re: #136 PhillyPretzel

yay. That is good to hear. I heard your car was damaged? Can you still drive it?

Yes, we can still drive it. The panel below the passenger door was torn away by Fiona. Other than that the car is fine. I’m not sure if I should turn in a hurricane claim to my car insurance company in Nebraska though.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2022 • 10:54:48am
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Crush White Nationalism  Sep 26, 2022 • 10:56:05am

re: #6 jaunte

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William Lewis  Sep 26, 2022 • 10:57:44am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2022 • 10:57:59am

re: #6 jaunte

So Republicans are finally outright admitting they are fascists?

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A Cranky One  Sep 26, 2022 • 10:58:10am


One way to advertise your religion to Americans.
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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2022 • 10:58:48am

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Dangerman  Sep 26, 2022 • 10:59:02am

re: #8 jaunte

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people consume. How else do you survive?

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2022 • 10:59:34am

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

Whatever they think they need to do to gain power, they will do.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2022 • 10:59:47am
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Teukka  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:00:03am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:00:54am

The models for hurricane Ian have flipped: now the GFS has it hitting Tampa Bay, while the European model is now keeping it farther off shore.

Regardless, all models show a stalling near Tampa.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:01:09am
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Dopamine Fish  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:02:34am
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jaunte  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:02:51am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:04:27am

jfc

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:04:32am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:06:37am
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Dopamine Fish  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:08:25am

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

jfc

Legally, that’s the correct outcome. However, “the legally correct outcome” and “the morally correct outcome” often diverge, as is the case here.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:08:27am

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

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When all you have is a hammer.

Raising interest rates isn’t going to fix inflation created by Covid supply chain issues. Oh it might seem to help a little but it’s going to overall make things worse and potentially cause the recession everyone is trying to avoid.

No one “printed too much money”.

The Fed raising rates is stupid and they should know better. If the Bank of England does this it will be stupid too.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:09:18am

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

Great Brexit will continue to flounder as it comes to terms with leaving a common market and striking out on its own in this big, cruel world.

The UK is less than 1% of the world’s population yet the Brexiteers thinks it can recover some glory from the days of the Empire.

Now Brits are discovering that everything is going to be a lot more expensive.

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aatharuv  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:11:50am

re: #16 jaunte

This was being pushed by a group called Women for Liberty.

I’d say the following are more accurate:
Women for Patriarchy
Women for Handmaidenry
Women for Misogyny
Women against female empowerment.

Obviously, they’re using the old Roman definition (which I’ve seen an occasional conservative — not just fascist — actually defending), where liberty was a privilege for the elite, and not meant for the (proles, plebes, *insert group here*).

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Dangerman  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:12:36am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:13:17am

re: #21 jaunte

It’s one of the reasons that fascists like Tolkien. In his imaginary world the past was glorious (at least for the magical, all-white* Elves), and life was better in the deep past.

It’s a theme Tolkien lifted from Genesis. It’s also an idea that is found in other religions/beliefs.

At the root is nostalgia, and at the root of nostalgia is the desire to return to childhood once we as adults figure out death is closer to us than our birth.

* Yes, I know that Tolkien never described all Elves as being white-skinned, but that is how many Tolkien fans believe he did.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:17:19am

re: #23 Charles Johnson

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:21:38am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:21:54am
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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:22:01am

re: #30 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It’s one of the reasons that fascists like Tolkien. In his imaginary world the past was glorious (at least for the magical, all-white* Elves), and life was better in the deep past.

It’s a theme Tolkien lifted from Genesis. It’s also an idea that is found in other religions/beliefs.

At the root is nostalgia, and at the root of nostalgia is the desire to return to childhood once we as adults figure out death is closer to us than our birth.

* Yes, I know that Tolkien never described all Elves as being white-skinned, but that is how many Tolkien fans believe he did.

Tolkien also specifically stated that the different sub-groups of Hobbits had varying skin colors, the Harfoots (and yes they actually existed in the books) were described as having darker skin color than the other groups.

I’m sure this is something overlooked by anyone bitching about it though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:23:24am
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Crush White Nationalism  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:24:37am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:26:40am

I’m sure you folks are already well aware of this, but just for the record: Benito Mussolini came to power in 1922.

And now, exactly 100 years later…

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Dangerman  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:27:16am
Arizona Secretary of State candidate Mark Finchem (R) “failed for years to follow state laws requiring elected officials to report their sources of income and business ties,” the Arizona Republic reports.

“If elected, Finchem would be in charge of overseeing the financial disclosures and campaign contribution reports required of every elected state official.”

See? Problem solved

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dat_said  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:29:39am

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

Are they actually filling sandbags by hand, or is that just a photo op? I spent college years in Fargo ND and spring floods occurred often enough to invest in machines (mprnews.org). They still fill some by hand in Fargo but the machines fill so much more. I just assumed hurricane-prone places would have machines too.

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A Three Hour Tour  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:30:21am

My Anymousian Centurylink two-cans and a string rural internet went out on Saturday afternoon. When I tried to go through the automated process of troubleshooting the problem this morning, I also lost my landline just after Centurylink tried to reset the port on my modem remotely. Now I have no internet access AND no landline phone service at home.

The earliest they can get a tech out to us is Thursday, so I’m catching up as I can at the local library. I’m gonna be a bit scarce for a few days.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:34:26am

CL’ed. In my defense, I’m optimistic about the midterms. It’s just GOP primaries I’m pessimistic about.

re: #213 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

It lost in all the rural and urban counties of Kansas, east and west, according to the latest accounts I read.

Polls are now showing that the number of voters intending to vote in this primary is vastly higher than the ordinary, significantly higher than it was even in 2018.

We’ve had endless lizard predictions of doom before every election since DT was elected and every one of them has been wrong. If you (not you personally) can’t bring yourselves to imagine that something good might come out of an election, can you at least, on the basis of your terrible record of predictions in the last several years, just keep the gloom and doom to yourselves? Some of us have elections work to do, and this is not helping.

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Dangerman  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:38:16am

re: #39 dat_said

Are they actually filling sandbags by hand, or is that just a photo op? I spent college years in Fargo ND and spring floods occurred often enough to invest in machines (mprnews.org). They still fill some by hand in Fargo but the machines fill so much more. I just assumed hurricane-prone places would have machines too.

We built this for the pond work

6 bags in about 2 min

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:38:21am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:39:17am

re: #16 jaunte

Pop-up message at the Central York School District official Website in Pennsylvania which appears as soon as you go to their page:

An Important Update from CYSD Regarding Media Coverage

The District was recently made aware of a national article published last evening falsely claiming that Central York School District has banned the book/series Girls Who Code.
The information published in this article is categorically false. This book series has not been banned, and they remain available in our libraries. If you have any questions, please email communications@cysd.k12.pa.us.

The USA is going to kill itself through believing everything it reads on the Internet.

cysd.k12.pa.us

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Dangerman  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:39:57am

re: #40 A Three Hour Tour

My Anymousian Centurylink two-cans and a string rural internet went out on Saturday afternoon. When I tried to go through the automated process of troubleshooting the problem this morning, I also lost my landline just after Centurylink tried to reset the port on my modem remotely. Now I have no internet access AND no landline phone service at home.

The earliest they can get a tech out to us is Thursday, so I’m catching up as I can at the local library. I’m gonna be a bit scarce for a few days.

Please visit our website to diagnose your lack of internet service.
If I could visit your website…

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John Hughes  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:42:37am

re: #20 Dopamine Fish

Has to give him citizenship before he can draft him.

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Dangerman  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:42:40am

re: #44 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Pop-up message at the Central York School District official Website in Pennsylvania which appears as soon as you go to their page:

The USA is going to kill itself through believing everything it reads on the Internet.

cysd.k12.pa.us

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austin_blue  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:43:56am

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

So Republicans are finally outright admitting they are fascists?

Well, fascist adjacent…

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Dangerman  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:46:07am

re: #48 austin_blue

Well, fascist adjacent…

experimenting, not committed

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:47:15am

re: #44 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I wonder if they put that message up after the Guardian story ran.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:47:23am

re: #46 John Hughes

I guess not quite:

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Dangerman  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:47:38am

The Conference of Chief Justices, a group representing the top state judicial officers in the nation, filed a brief in the U.S. Supreme Court urging the court to reject “a legal theory pressed by Republicans that would give state legislatures extraordinary power,” the New York Times reports.

“If the Supreme Court adopts the theory, it will radically reshape how federal elections are conducted by giving state lawmakers independent authority, not subject to review by state courts, to set election rules in conflict with state constitutions.”

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No Malarkey!  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:49:20am

In mass school shooting news, first, apparently there was a mass shooting at a school in Russia today. Second, mass school shooter Michael Carneal, who has been in prison for the last 25 years since he killed three classmates and injured others when he was 14, will spend the rest of his life in prison.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:51:08am

re: #40 A Three Hour Tour

My Anymousian Centurylink two-cans and a string rural internet went out on Saturday afternoon. When I tried to go through the automated process of troubleshooting the problem this morning, I also lost my landline just after Centurylink tried to reset the port on my modem remotely. Now I have no internet access AND no landline phone service at home.

The earliest they can get a tech out to us is Thursday, so I’m catching up as I can at the local library. I’m gonna be a bit scarce for a few days.

The mayor of Port aux Basques was on television this evening. Cell service is out through most of the province; only landlines work. Most of Newfoundland is under emergency orders not to drive on the roads. Stores in the southwest of the province were allowed to open for a few hours so people could get essentials. Much of the infrastructure of southwest Newfoundand is smashed, though the ferry service to Nova Scotia says their terminals and ships only received minor damage.

He said that the city has contacted contractors to start using bulldozers and other equipment to move houses off the street tomorrow.

A woman who was washed out to sea in her house and was thought lost at sea had her body wash up on shore.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:51:41am
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dat_said  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:52:50am

The fact that nothing happened on Sept 24 is proof that QAnon was right.

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Jay C  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:54:19am

re: #56 dat_said

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The fact that nothing happened on Sept 24 is proof that QAnon was right.

Isn’t anything and everything that happens - or doesn’t happen - proof that QAnon was right??

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aatharuv  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:55:33am

re: #27 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Great Brexit will continue to flounder as it comes to terms with leaving a common market and striking out on its own in this big, cruel world.

The UK is less than 1% of the world’s population yet the Brexiteers thinks it can recover some glory from the days of the Empire.

Now Brits are discovering that everything is going to be a lot more expensive.

It seems to me that at least a large minority of Britons* (any Brits here, please correct me if I’m wrong), are under the mistaken impression that they can lead the old British Commonwealth, and gain on some nostalgia for empire from the colonies, and gain from that. That may have been true decades back, but not anymore.

*I’m guessing highly correlated with Brexiteers.

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aatharuv  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:57:14am

re: #44 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

re: #47 Dangerman

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It’s possible they changed their mind amidst massive negative publicity before they could implement the changes.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:57:38am
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Dopamine Fish  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:59:08am

re: #60 Charles Johnson

I just saw that and was coming here to link it. Thanks for the information, boss.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 26, 2022 • 11:59:11am

re: #59 aatharuv

It’s possible they changed their mind amidst massive negative publicity before they could implement the changes.

It is also possible it is simply a false report. Moms for Liberty aren’t exactly known for being truthful. They are conservatives. They lie when it suits them.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:00:34pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

That would be a good piece of information for the CYSD update/disclaimer to contain.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:02:29pm

re: #49 Dangerman

experimenting, not committed

Why yes I am a minion of Satan. But my duties are mostly ceremonial.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:03:20pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

For my opinion of Sinema, I’ll quote Kerry Eurodyne from Cyberpunk 2077:

“Unnecessary, uncomfortable, and ultimately kitsch as all fuckin’ get out.”

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:04:45pm

re: #52 Dangerman

Aren’t things written into constitutions really just suggestions anyway?

//

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:06:22pm

re: #66 Eventual Carrion

Aren’t things written into constitutions really just suggestions anyway?

//

“They’re more what you’d call ‘guidelines’ than actual rules.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:08:35pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:10:28pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:12:08pm

Thread, nine tweets.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:16:18pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:16:31pm
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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:17:22pm

re: #51 Dopamine Fish

I guess not quite:

That is not stopping “recruiters” from grabbing men off the streets and shipping them off. Snowden should stay home until at least April — and so should every man in Russia.

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:24:19pm

re: #16 jaunte

The authoritarians and barbarians masquerading as conservatives are such fucking cowards.

OMG! We can’t have girls thinking! If they did that they might get the idea we can’t order them around!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:25:36pm
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jaunte  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:26:53pm

re: #74 Romantic Heretic

Library and school boards are so vulnerable to attack from rightwing activists swarming our weak points.

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EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:30:51pm

re: #76 jaunte

Library and school boards are so vulnerable to attack from rightwing activists swarming our weak points.

To be fair, I think it is impossible for any system of government to function if 1/3 or more of the electorate is as utterly deranged as Republicans are.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:31:19pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:31:22pm
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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:33:47pm

re: #79 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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That act of informing the employees was in no way neutral.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:34:33pm

“…From July 2021 to June 2022, PEN America’s Index of School Book Bans lists 2,532 instances of individual books being banned, affecting 1,648 unique book titles.”
………
“…PEN America defines a school book ban as any action taken against a book based on its content and as a result of parent or community challenges, administrative decisions, or in response to direct or threatened action by lawmakers or other governmental officials, that leads to a previously accessible book being either completely removed from availability to students, or where access to a book is restricted or diminished.”

pen.org

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:34:39pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

Leo’s body language: She looks tasty.

Garbo’s body language: He thinks I look tasty.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:34:51pm
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Axolotl  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:35:38pm

re: #30 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It’s one of the reasons that fascists like Tolkien. In his imaginary world the past was glorious (at least for the magical, all-white* Elves), and life was better in the deep past.

It’s a theme Tolkien lifted from Genesis. It’s also an idea that is found in other religions/beliefs.

At the root is nostalgia, and at the root of nostalgia is the desire to return to childhood once we as adults figure out death is closer to us than our birth.

* Yes, I know that Tolkien never described all Elves as being white-skinned, but that is how many Tolkien fans believe he did.

Tolkien was just writing fantasy novels for his kids. He was not trying to make any political statements. That was CS Lewis.

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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:36:05pm

re: #82 Romantic Heretic

Leo’s body language: She looks tasty.

Garbo’s body language: He thinks I look tasty.

She has snacks displayed on her wrists.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:37:20pm

Guys, I’m going to keep saying this:

The idea there’s a grand unifying Russian “op” that explains a bunch of shit going on is a conspiracy theory, and like most other conspiracy theories it steps over the open, obvious Shit Going Wrong in favor an occult explanation in which there is a singular operator.

Putin is a basic-ass dictator and wasn’t even a notably good KGB agent and he’s not doing four-dimensional chess any more than Trump is. Never, ever believe any claim that one super smart dude is pulling all the strings.

And what power and clout Putin has is less about spy hijinks and defenestration and more about the petrodollar and nukes. He’s gotten away with shit because he pumps gas to Europe, and like all dictators squatting on a single resource the global north needs he’s overplayed that hand and finally getting pushback. So now he’s using nuclear missiles explicitly the same way that has them uses them implicitly: let me do what I want or I will kill your civilians and poison the land like a fucking wizard curse.

(Nuclear warfare is insanity, built on the premise of atrocity. Contrary to that cool movie, the way you “win” is to be a high enough elite that you can launch missiles and just write off the chunks of the nations because all that matters is your bank account…or just bully countries with nukes instead of gunboat)

And, as to spying…yep, he has spies and has appropriated the vain, the vulnerable, and the available, which is not novel doctrine. It’s regime change tactics, just like the CIA does it. Yep, it sucks, damn shame that it’s the taproot of neoliberal international conflict.

Dictators mostly succeed because they provide some utility for a major power, but nowadays that doesn’t just mean governments, it means capital holding entities of whatever stripe. To the extent that things seem to have bent Putin’s way in the last couple of decades, it’s less because he’s distinctly good and more that there’s a massive systems of wealthy people that provide inroads for yet another kleptocrat, plus a global white reactionary systems that has it’s own plans but is willing to let Putin be the figurehead.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:38:02pm

re: #80 wrenchwench

That act of informing the employees was in no way neutral.

Neutral is what conservatives say it is.

This is the result of the striking down of Roe: The university is concerned that a XIX Century Idaho law will be strictly enforced. That law prohibits any favourable mention of abortion or promotion of birth control.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:38:36pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:39:57pm

re: #84 Axolotl

Tolkien was just writing fantasy novels for his kids. He was not trying to make any political statements. That was CS Lewis.

The Hobbit certainly was, initially, written for his children in the 1930s.

LOTR was written starting in WWII. He used to send drafts of sections to his son Christopher while the latter was training for war in South Africa. And it took several more years to complete (1951 I believe). It’s a big treatise on the meaning of life and mortality (death.)

What I find interesting is that all of Tolkien’s notes and backstories are much more involved but he never could publish them in his lifetime. So the posthumously published material turns out to be more voluminous than JRRT’s published material.

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retired cynic  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:40:06pm

The New York AG Sues Trump, the Trump Organization, Don Jr., Eric and Ivanka for Staggering Fraud
Background Briefing with David Cay Johnson

Iframe

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:40:09pm
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Dangerman  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:41:33pm

re: #79 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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who gets to define ‘neutral’?

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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:42:00pm

re: #87 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Neutral is what conservatives say it is.

This is the result of the striking down of Roe: The university is concerned that a XIX Century Idaho law will be strictly enforced. That law prohibits any favourable mention of abortion or promotion of birth control.

In an attempt at compliance, they’ve taken a side. The ‘deadly to women’ side.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:43:03pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:44:17pm
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Ming5000  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:44:17pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:45:05pm

re: #86 The Ghost of a Flea

The whole society-as-a-petro-state thing that Putin has going on will come to an end.

Eventually.

Probably after Putin is long dead.

But it will end.

I get what you are saying about Putin. I agree that some are giving him too much credit. He’s an exploiter, like Trump, but better than Trump.

What we have all over the world are states full of people who are increasingly anxious about losing their faith and their identities.

It’s why I am such a doomer.

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Dangerman  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:46:31pm

re: #86 The Ghost of a Flea

Guys, I’m going to keep saying this:

The idea there’s a grand unifying Russian “op” that explains a bunch of shit going on is a conspiracy theory, and like most other conspiracy theories it steps over the open, obvious Shit Going Wrong in favor an occult explanation in which there is a singular operator.

Putin is a basic-ass dictator and wasn’t even a notably good KGB agent and he’s not doing four-dimensional chess any more than Trump is. Never, ever believe any claim that one super smart dude is pulling all the strings.
….

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^this

it’s spy novel stuff
easy to understand
and woefully not what’s ever actually happened

there arent a lot of actual machiavelli’s out there

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:47:09pm

Folks are posting photographs from Port aux Basques. (I’m really glad we moved up the coast to St. Anthony as the hurricane approached.)

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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:49:05pm

re: #99 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Folks are posting photographs from Port aux Basques. (I’m really glad we moved up the coast to St. Anthony as the hurricane approached.)

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Lighthouse got heavy.

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Mattand  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:52:06pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

Insane quote from Lauren Boebert:

So California wants to ban electric cars and now natural gas heaters.

I’d say they plan to run the state on unicorn farts, but thanks to the Green New Deal, flatulence is off the table.

I’m guessing she meant to write “gas cars” but her natural stupidity took the wheel, as it were?

Because the idea of both CA banning EVs and Boebert defending them is both hilarious and insane.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:54:54pm

She’s at it again, asking all the right questions:

Youtube Video


..

From a couple of the comments it seems some people don’t understand.

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John Hughes  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:54:55pm

re: #51 Dopamine Fish

I guess not quite:

They’re drafting students (they said they wouldn’t).
They drafted a 60 year old man with brain disease.
Anyone who expects Putin or his followers to obey the “law” is delusional.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:55:43pm

re: #30 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
re: #84 Axolotl

So…I’m going to provisionally disagree. Like not “this is bad, you are wrong” but “this is nuanced, let’s talk nuance.”

The core thing is: fascists are so shallow that there’s no relationship between what they attribute to a text and what is within a text, to the point that conventional contextual critique is meaningless. Fascists no more read in good faith than they speak in good faith.

We can talk about what was or not intended by the author, and what are possible readings of themes, or even dissections line by line of what words could mean, and none of it would matter because fascists value books like Ed Gein values ladies. They want the aesthetic, the cultural clout—the fetishizable bits—and give no two shits about the contents.

As such, authorial intent is dead even beyond Barthes’ framing: all texts exists to convey the same message, and any text can be fitted to that message, Procrustes like.

I was a Tolkien kid, deep in the Simarillion and the marginalia, and I could argue with you both of you. I could argue that Tolkien’s mythic past shouldn’t evoke nostalgia because most of it is a tragedy—LotR being the final moment of uplift at the end of a cycle of folly, but still filled with bittersweet elements. I could also argue that Tolkien’ss lack of explicit politics do not change that his work is political, with its elevation of community and its condemnation of systems of control that benefits the few…

…but neither of these things matter to the current culture war because the reactionary culture warriors don’t care. Tolkien, like all other things, exists only as an expression of power, a thing to claim and use. The entire point is to hollow out the text and inject the same reactionary substance as always.

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Florida Panhandler  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:56:37pm

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

Forecasts for my area in the Panhandle are safe with only minimal risk of any major events resulting from Ian, thank goodness. However I do have friends in the Tampa area and will not be surprised if I get a call or two about evacuating to our house while the storm rages, especially if it slows as expected and dumps a shit ton of rain and wind on that region over a matter of days.

It will be necessary for any and all Federal Government help to be available which I’m sure is already being staged by the Biden Administration, ready to deploy as needed without any grandstanding or assistance in exchange for appeasement and knee-bending unlike our previous utterly loathsome President.

With that being said, Florida’s current loathsome Governor is furthering his populist pivot by being the “guy in charge” here during the storm using USA national resources, all the while defaming and decrying Federal Government in his pathological Conservative nonsense. And don’t even get me started on the whole Climate non-debate when it’s the exact same technology and modeling that can determine a hurricane’s likely cone of landfall and can also precisely determine human-driven effects upon our planet.

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steve_davis  Sep 26, 2022 • 12:57:31pm

re: #54 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The mayor of Port aux Basques was on television this evening. Cell service is out through most of the province; only landlines work. Most of Newfoundland is under emergency orders not to drive on the roads. Stores in the southwest of the province were allowed to open for a few hours so people could get essentials. Much of the infrastructure of southwest Newfoundand is smashed, though the ferry service to Nova Scotia says their terminals and ships only received minor damage.

He said that the city has contacted contractors to start using bulldozers and other equipment to move houses off the street tomorrow.

A woman who was washed out to sea in her house and was thought lost at sea had her body wash up on shore.

i can imagine few things more terrifying than having the house I’m in get washed out to sea during a fucking hurricane. that’s one where you presumably just say, “fuck it, I’m not even gonna struggle, ‘cause god laid down a full house, aces high on this one.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:00:56pm

re: #105 Florida Panhandler

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:04:11pm

re: #104 The Ghost of a Flea

No doubt that there are plenty of subtleties going on wrt literature and political movements.

I will argue that Tolkien’s 19th century racialism not only is real (that is, embedded in Tolkien’s writings and thus his own beliefs), but that it does draw the right-wing and fascists to him.

This is what I think was Tolkien’s greatest flaw, not that I claim to be able to psychoanalyze a guy long removed from me: His unwillingness to see that his ideas of “race” were indeed the racialism that was so common (in the English speaking world) when he was a child.

A few years ago a Tolkien society member wrote a defense of Tolkien against the fascist-types. I applaud such an effort, but the said essay also never addressed the deep problems with racialism.

If one of the cores of fascism is a strong idea of nationalism based on type (that is, the “us” is tightly defined and thus also the “them”), then we need to address this problem of thinking that the “them” are easily typed, i.e. racialism.

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steve_davis  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:05:10pm

re: #82 Romantic Heretic

Leo’s body language: She looks tasty.

Garbo’s body language: He thinks I look tasty.

my body language: I think she looks tasty.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:06:19pm

re: #105 Florida Panhandler

Forecasts for my area in the Panhandle are safe with only minimal risk of any major events resulting from Ian, thank goodness. However I do have friends in the Tampa area and will not be surprised if I get a call or two about evacuating to our house while the storm rages, especially if it slows as expected and dumps a shit ton of rain and wind on that region over a matter of days.

It will be necessary for any and all Federal Government help to be available which I’m sure is already being staged by the Biden Administration, ready to deploy as needed without any grandstanding or assistance in exchange for appeasement and knee-bending unlike our previous utterly loathsome President.

With that being said, Florida’s current loathsome Governor is furthering his populist pivot by being the “guy in charge” here during the storm using USA national resources, all the while defaming and decrying Federal Government in his pathological Conservative nonsense. And don’t even get me started on the whole Climate non-debate when it’s the exact same technology and modeling that can determine a hurricane’s likely cone of landfall and can also precisely determine human-driven effects upon our planet.

My son lives in Jacksonville. We’ll have to see what happens.

I went through a hurricane (well, the edge of one), and a week later he goes through one.

We must not be living right or something. /s

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John Hughes  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:06:45pm

re: #73 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Snowden should stay home until at least April — and so should every man in Russia.

actually the advice from people who seem to know what they’re talking about is to stay off the street and if possible stay somewhere other than your registered address.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:07:08pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:07:31pm
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Dangerman  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:08:58pm

re: #109 steve_davis

my body language: I think she looks tasty.

my body language: who the eff thought this was a good idea and is there a sharpshooter off camera aiming at Leo?

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Axolotl  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:09:01pm

re: #89 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The Hobbit certainly was, initially, written for his children in the 1930s.

LOTR was written starting in WWII. He used to send drafts of sections to his son Christopher while the latter was training for war in South Africa. And it took several more years to complete (1951 I believe). It’s a big treatise on the meaning of life and mortality (death.)

What I find interesting is that all of Tolkien’s notes and backstories are much more involved but he never could publish them in his lifetime. So the posthumously published material turns out to be more voluminous than JRRT’s published material.

And where are you getting that from?

From the man himself in his forward: “I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence. I much prefer history, true or feigned, with its varied applicability to the thought and experience of readers. I think that many confuse ‘applicability’ with ‘allegory’; but the one resides in the freedom of the reader, and the other in the purposed domination of the author.”

I think a lot of people are finding applicability where is suits him but that was not his intention.

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Crush White Nationalism  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:10:26pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:11:37pm

video, 0:31

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steve_davis  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:14:13pm

re: #114 Dangerman

my body language: who the eff thought this was a good idea and is there a sharpshooter off camera aiming at Leo?

yes, but leo was smart: he had a sharpshooter aimed at THAT sharpshooter. He just never anticipated that there might be a triple-cross!

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:14:14pm

re: #98 Dangerman

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^this

it’s spy novel stuff
easy to understand
and woefully not what’s ever actually happened

there arent a lot of actual machiavelli’s out there

Now that I’m older and reading more thorough histories of Cold War espionage it’s amazing how often practitioners of the craft convinced themselves they were the super operators, or put their trust in one dude they imagined to have some critical espionage quality that meant bending the rules.

Operation Paperclip involved a lot of attributing some kind of genius to Nazi security figures like Skorzny and Galen…both of whom turned out to just be kind of shit.

We’re sold the image of Great Men because it’s rhetorically useful to the powerful, but the downstream of that is fitting mediocrities for the garb of genius because the alternative is expressing how bad the systems are. Serial killers are geniuses because the alternative is that cops don’t really try to serve people that end up as serial killer targets; Dictators are geniuses because the alternative is that “democratic” states are kind of ok with tyranny over there if it cuts costs.

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Axolotl  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:14:35pm

re: #104 The Ghost of a Flea

So…I’m going to provisionally disagree. Like not “this is bad, you are wrong” but “this is nuanced, let’s talk nuance.”

The core thing is: fascists are so shallow that there’s no relationship between what they attribute to a text and what is within a text, to the point that conventional contextual critique is meaningless. Fascists no more read in good faith than they speak in good faith.

We can talk about what was or not intended by the author, and what are possible readings of themes, or even dissections line by line of what words could mean, and none of it would matter because fascists value books like Ed Gein values ladies. They want the aesthetic, the cultural clout—the fetishizable bits—and give no two shits about the contents.

As such, authorial intent is dead even beyond Barthes’ framing: all texts exists to convey the same message, and any text can be fitted to that message, Procrustes like.

I was a Tolkien kid, deep in the Simarillion and the marginalia, and I could argue with you both of you. I could argue that Tolkien’s mythic past shouldn’t evoke nostalgia because most of it is a tragedy—LotR being the final moment of uplift at the end of a cycle of folly, but still filled with bittersweet elements. I could also argue that Tolkien’ss lack of explicit politics do not change that his work is political, with its elevation of community and its condemnation of systems of control that benefits the few…

…but neither of these things matter to the current culture war because the reactionary culture warriors don’t care. Tolkien, like all other things, exists only as an expression of power, a thing to claim and use. The entire point is to hollow out the text and inject the same reactionary substance as always.

Yes, I can’t argue that is will be used by fascists and others. I think he would agree that the reader can apply it however they choose. I am just saying that he was not intending to right is as a political allegory.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:16:10pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:17:48pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:19:19pm

re: #120 Axolotl

Yes, I can’t argue that is will be used by fascists and others. I think he would agree that the reader can apply it however they choose. I am just saying that he was not intending to right is as a political allegory.

Anyone who has read both Lord of the Rings and the Chronicles of Narnia should know what’s allegory (Narnia) and what’s not allegory (LOTR).

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:19:35pm

re: #97 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

What we have all over the world are states full of people who are increasingly anxious about losing their faith and their identities.

There is only one identity. We are human.

Nothing more, nothing less.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:19:54pm

re: #122 Charles Johnson

“Lady, you stuck this thing in here. You come in here and get it.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:22:33pm

News report from the CBC today on Port aux Basques (video, 2:52), showing the widespread destruction of the city.

Youtube Video

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:25:38pm
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A Cranky One  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:28:07pm

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A Cranky One  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:29:23pm

re: #120 Axolotl

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:33:25pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:35:59pm

They’re busy collecting names. (Fifteen tweets)

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William Lewis  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:38:09pm

re: #130 jaunte

I can’t tweet at work, but if I could I’d quote from the Pirke Avot 3:2:

Rabbi Hanina, the vice-high priest said: pray for the welfare of the government, for were it not for the fear it inspires, every man would swallow his neighbor alive

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:39:26pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:44:25pm

re: #130 jaunte

Seems to be a trend:

Sounds like fun. Where might one find some of these lustful feminist witches?

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:45:48pm

re: #134 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Seems to be a trend:

Sounds like fun. Where might one find some of these lustful witches?

I hear Hunter Biden might be able to hook you up.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:46:03pm

re: #134 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Over-reliance on spellcheck intern hurts the original poster’s ability to proofread.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:48:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:50:01pm
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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:50:06pm

re: #51 Dopamine Fish

I guess not quite:

[Embedded content]

Perhaps Snowden has dodged a bullet, but can he dodge a window?

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:50:19pm

re: #137 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lara Trump angrily calls stylist to berate them for suggesting this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:51:52pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:52:54pm

re: #130 jaunte

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Dangerman  Sep 26, 2022 • 1:56:52pm
“He doesn’t. The actions on Wednesday are totally indefensible. We need to rebuild our country and our party from scratch. We have to start over.”

— Rep. Nancy Mace (R-SC), when asked by National Journal last year whether Donald Trump has a future in the Republican party.

———-

“I’m going to support whomever Republicans nominate in ‘24.”

— Mace, when asked by NBC News this weekend if she would support Trump as the GOP nominee in 2024.

another spineless jellyfish

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2022 • 2:01:43pm

MTG should know that Ghouls rule the Ringworld.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2022 • 2:06:07pm

In case any of you are wondering where Port Aux Basques is…

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aatharuv  Sep 26, 2022 • 2:06:14pm

re: #143 Dangerman

another spineless jellyfish

Rep Nancy Mace was once literally caught supporting vaccines and supporting natural immunity on the same day to different news sites.

counton2.com

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Dangerman  Sep 26, 2022 • 2:09:01pm

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mmmirele  Sep 26, 2022 • 2:09:23pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2022 • 2:11:39pm
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jaunte  Sep 26, 2022 • 2:13:19pm

re: #149 jaunte

On average, 8 of 10 viewers will only look at the picture and read the headline.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 2:15:49pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Sep 26, 2022 • 2:18:37pm

Item pricing at Amazon can be weird. The price per oz on the 3-pack uses the wrong divisor, and the single pack costs four times as much at Amazon than it does from Amazon Fresh.

No, I don’t have hair. I use this for my 3D printer to stick prints to the buildplate.

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Crush White Nationalism  Sep 26, 2022 • 2:21:07pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 2:22:41pm

ed just wants some privacy, y’all…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 2:23:41pm

“our people”

O_o

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Dangerman  Sep 26, 2022 • 2:23:54pm

when cuba is more progressive…

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A Cranky One  Sep 26, 2022 • 2:27:24pm

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Sep 26, 2022 • 2:28:13pm

Tomorrow’s Wordle was sitting upstairs in the bus and missed its stop.

Chipped in from off the green. The birbie says tveet tveet.

Wordle 465 3/6

⬛⬛⬛🟨⬛
🟩⬛🟨⬛⬛
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

SibData: 3,4,4

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 2:29:57pm
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Belafon  Sep 26, 2022 • 2:30:59pm

re: #115 Axolotl

And where are you getting that from?

From the man himself in his forward: “I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence. I much prefer history, true or feigned, with its varied applicability to the thought and experience of readers. I think that many confuse ‘applicability’ with ‘allegory’; but the one resides in the freedom of the reader, and the other in the purposed domination of the author.”

I think a lot of people are finding applicability where is suits him but that was not his intention.

As Tolkien implied, and my art teacher said: There are many valid interpretations of a piece of art, and the artist’s interpretation is one of them. Part of the reason the viewer’s interpretation is valid is that they may see influences that the artist has internalized but not consciously acknowledged.

So I personally do not buy any artists attempt to say “This is what I made and this is what it means.” We call those people manufacturers, not artists.

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2022 • 2:35:44pm

re: #137 Backwoods_Sleuth

Actually, she’s Jean Jacket.

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EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2022 • 2:38:18pm

re: #160 Belafon

As Tolkien implied, and my art teacher said: There are many valid interpretations of a piece of art, and the artist’s interpretation is one of them. Part of the reason the viewer’s interpretation is valid is that they may see influences that the artist has internalized but not consciously acknowledged.

So I personally do not buy any artists attempt to say “This is what I made and this is what it means.” We call those people manufacturers, not artists.

A real allegory is pretty much a counterexample to this way of thinking. E.g., in the Chronicles of Narnia, there are only two ways to interpret Aslan — as a Christ figure, or incorrectly. The author’s intent in this case is indisputable (i.e., the “purposed domination of the author” from Tolkien’s comment on allegory.)

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Sep 26, 2022 • 2:40:39pm
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mmmirele  Sep 26, 2022 • 2:42:26pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

People who defend Mark Houck need to understand that they are saying it is OK to assault clinic escorts and patients, which is already a crime. The only reason the Feds are involved here is because of the federal act that makes assault at a clinic a federal crime.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 2:42:36pm
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jaunte  Sep 26, 2022 • 2:44:32pm
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ckkatz  Sep 26, 2022 • 2:45:37pm
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William Lewis  Sep 26, 2022 • 2:46:50pm

re: #162 EPR-radar

A real allegory is pretty much a counterexample to this way of thinking. E.g., in the Chronicles of Narnia, there are only two ways to interpret Aslan — as a Christ figure, or incorrectly. The author’s intent in this case is indisputable (i.e., the “purposed domination of the author” from Tolkien’s comment on allegory.)

Hmm. Not sure of that. A Christ figure can be a trope or metaphor as well as being a yes or no kind of thing. One can read Narnia and see Aslan as Christ-like but not inherently divine (I didn’t but the kids at the catholic school I knew did. I found him as “christ like” as Odin… iow a similar myth but no where near the same.). The Doctor from Dr. Who is similar.

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ckkatz  Sep 26, 2022 • 2:49:27pm
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ckkatz  Sep 26, 2022 • 2:53:28pm
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mmmirele  Sep 26, 2022 • 2:57:23pm

In case you missed it:

I remember my mother getting very upset that I turned down a job in Concord, CA in 2000. I told her, “Mom, I don’t make enough to live there, unless you want me sleeping in a box undrneath the 680.” That’s even more the case now. When I was in LA in June, I was kind of stunned by the number of tiny blue tarped encampments tucked in here and there as I drove around. It’s a true crisis. It’s getting that way here in Phoenix.

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sizzzzlerz  Sep 26, 2022 • 2:59:43pm

re: #56 dat_said

The fact that nothing happened on Sept 24 is proof that QAnon was right.

Dr. Evil “Riiiiight”

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Egregious Philbin  Sep 26, 2022 • 3:00:19pm

re: #171 mmmirele

I see a lot of that on my bike rides, but they have cleaned up the Grand Canal which goes from Tempe, by the airport up to 15 ave and Camelback. Also, they got all the homeless out of the river bottom west of Tempe Town Lake (a lot are camping just off the bike paths now, or underneath the bridges).

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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 26, 2022 • 3:00:48pm

re: #169 ckkatz

Times Pitchbot@DougJBalloon
Our investigative team has discovered the precise location an asteroid will strike Earth next week. Details coming Spring 2023 to bookstores near you.

As written by Maggie Haberman

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Crush White Nationalism  Sep 26, 2022 • 3:01:39pm

re: #167 ckkatz

Stupid people who refuse to vaccinate are on the MSN comment section right now talking about taking their unvaccinated families to Canada, with no idea that they’ve failed to take care of their families and will be getting them sick.

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Dangerman  Sep 26, 2022 • 3:07:24pm

re: #171 mmmirele

In case you missed it:

[Embedded content]

when i was an undergrad (late 70’s) there was a lot of overcrowding at our school.
we already had a lot of 3 in two person room
they ended up block renting the local motels, apt complexes, etc

(they were not great motels)

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Dangerman  Sep 26, 2022 • 3:09:09pm

re: #174 BeenHereAwhile

As written by Maggie Haberman

forward by Bill Barr and Bob Woodward

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ckkatz  Sep 26, 2022 • 3:10:13pm

re: #56 dat_said

Thoughts…

1. Reminds me of the “Great Disappointment” of 1843-44.

en.wikipedia.org
en.wikipedia.org

2. I think that we are now into the “Gray Goo” Apocalypse. (Google it. Or not…)

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retired cynic  Sep 26, 2022 • 3:12:20pm

NASA’s Shooting Rockets at Asteroids Like Space Billiards Now
I’ve got a bad feeling about this…
By Charlie Pierce
esquire.com

I have watched far too many science fiction movies to feel entirely comfortable with this whole “let’s just shoot a spaceship at extraterrestrial objects for funsies” mission.

Look, I know what happens next. Either we miss the damn thing entirely, or we nudge it into a direct trajectory toward Earth—it’s presently going to miss us by a parsec or three—and then we all have to pay Bruce Willis to go and blow it up. Or we crack it in two and expose an alien civilization that then comes to Earth, entirely pissed off, to take back the pyramids.

Am I going to watch? You damn betcha (it starts around 5:30 p.m., Eastern, today).

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ckkatz  Sep 26, 2022 • 3:12:44pm

If this has already been posted to lgf, my apologies:

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ckkatz  Sep 26, 2022 • 3:14:46pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Sep 26, 2022 • 3:18:29pm
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retired cynic  Sep 26, 2022 • 3:21:41pm

re: #182 Crush White Nationalism

Amazing! I don’t know why I love those things, but I sure do.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2022 • 3:32:35pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 3:35:17pm

good fucking grief

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 26, 2022 • 3:37:07pm

At least Solzhenitsyn wrote a book of his experiences in the gulag. I do not think this guy would know how.

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aatharuv  Sep 26, 2022 • 3:37:46pm

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief

Why do I get the feeling that in all actuality Steward Rhodes would agree with Cecil Rhodes far more than he would agree with Nelson Mandela.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2022 • 3:45:41pm

Watch an asteroid take a good whacking.

Youtube Video

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Tahitinho  Sep 26, 2022 • 3:48:58pm

FWIW: A reaction to John Oliver’s take on Bolsonaro. I very much like Oliver, but he misses important nuance here. I have quite a few close Brazilian friends. They all support Bolsonaro. Yes, he can speak rudely. Yes, he can be insulting. And, yes, I disagree strongly with some of his views. Some of my friends do, too.

But Oliver strikes out on why Bolsonaro has such wide-spread passionate support. Many Brazilians see him as the person who stood up and saved Brazil from becoming the next Venezuela or the next Cuba. As Oliver says, they call him “Mito”, which means “legend.” During the last election, he was attacked and stabbed with a knife. He only barely survived, but then he won, and after coming into office has worked to stop the fountains of corruption that were bleeding Brazil.

Oliver gets a detail lost in translation. Bolsonaro’s supporters do not see him as a biblical sort of Messiah. But they do see him as someone who saved the country. “Messiah” gets mentioned simply because it is right there in the man’s name: Jair Messias Bolsonaro.

Oliver only briefly refers to the trouble with the other side: Lula and his Worker’s Party. Over more than a decade in office, they took long-running Brazilian traditions of political corruptness to a new level. The country went from a booming economy in the years before they hosted the World Cup and the Olympics to a giant recession with lost jobs and stores closing up.

Many ordinary Brazilians chalk this up to Lula and his buddies stealing the money that could have made their country thrive. Lula ended up in jail for his part. How did he get out? Because of his supporters in the Brazilian version of a Supreme Court.

Imagine Trump gets arrested and convicted, then is let off on a technicality by the Supreme Court, many of whom he appointed, and then he runs for President AGAIN!. Imagine the disgust you would feel.

Another thing. In Brazil (I’m tempted to spell that their way, “Brasil”), voting is mandatory. Trump warned the election would be rigged, but he didn’t do a thing to prevent the alleged rigging. Bolsonaro is warning the election could be rigged, so he is trying to institute a requirement that voting has a paper trail, so that there is a clear record as to who voted and who did not. Lula is fighting this, which Bolsonaro supporters see as evidence that Lula intends to win based on false votes, mostly in the dirt-poor communities where he has the most support.

It’s complicated for me, because I’m very put off by Bolsonaro’s Trump-like side. On the other side, his opponent is a populist thief in the model of Hugo Chavez and Daniel Ortega.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 3:54:00pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

Watch an asteroid take a good whacking.

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Video

we are tuned into the NASA channel on DirecTV

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 3:54:48pm

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

we are tuned into the NASA channel on DirecTV

the asteroid is way bigger than a pixel now

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2022 • 3:54:51pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 3:55:56pm

we have precision lock

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2022 • 3:56:03pm

The asteroid in front isn’t Dimorphos, the one they’re crashing into. Dimorphos is just starting to become visible at upper right of the brighter object.

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2022 • 3:57:16pm

re: #171 mmmirele

In case you missed it:

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I remember my mother getting very upset that I turned down a job in Concord, CA in 2000. I told her, “Mom, I don’t make enough to live there, unless you want me sleeping in a box undrneath the 680.” That’s even more the case now. When I was in LA in June, I was kind of stunned by the number of tiny blue tarped encampments tucked in here and there as I drove around. It’s a true crisis. It’s getting that way here in Phoenix.

UT Dallas had the same issue at the beginning of the school year. The only reason my son has housing is he stayed in the same apartment since last year and payed the fee to stay in over the summer.

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Jay C  Sep 26, 2022 • 3:58:51pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

Watch an asteroid take a good whacking.

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Video

NASA has a “Planetary Defense Officer”?
Nice to know….
(Especially as he reassures us this asteroid is NO threat at all…)

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Florida Panhandler  Sep 26, 2022 • 3:59:17pm

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief

webmd.com

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2022 • 3:59:31pm
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darthstar  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:02:20pm

NASA about to crash into an asteroid to test their ability to steer an asteroid off a collision course with earth. Wouldn’t be ironic if they accidentally put this one ON a collision course with earth?

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darthstar  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:03:09pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:04:37pm

re: #194 Charles Johnson

The asteroid in front isn’t Dimorphos, the one they’re crashing into. Dimorphos is just starting to become visible at upper right of the brighter object.

big guy is Didymos

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:05:57pm
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Jay C  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:06:45pm

re: #198 Charles Johnson

Anyone know how far away the Impact Event is/I.e. what the transmission delay is?

ETA: 38 seconds, they said

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sagehen  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:08:34pm

re: #189 Tahitinho

It’s complicated for me, because I’m very put off by Bolsonaro’s Trump-like side. On the other side, his opponent is a populist thief in the model of Hugo Chavez and Daniel Ortega.

I don’t know enough about most of his positions… but I’m definitely pissed off about how he’s treated the Amazon.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:09:15pm

Since some of us are space geeking at the moment, my youngest sister west of Cincinnati got a shot of Jupiter and four moons last night just before midnight:

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:11:12pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:12:58pm

Better not miss after all this.

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gocart mozart  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:13:11pm

This channel is great (DarkMatter2525) and a total mind bend.
Warning: may be offensive to religious people.

Youtube Video

Youtube Video

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:13:56pm

Two minutes.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:16:09pm

!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:16:55pm

Dimorphos is now stardust…

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:17:10pm

That was pretty incredible. I hope that fuckin rock learned its lesson.

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Jay C  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:18:30pm

OMG,
The details in those last pictures!

How big were those rocks? 1 meter?

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darthstar  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:18:42pm

re: #212 Charles Johnson

That was pretty incredible. I hope that fuckin rock learned its lesson.

I hope they didn’t steer it toward earth…it’s the size of a pyramid.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:19:11pm

this was just great!

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TarHellion  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:19:20pm

re: #186 PhillyPretzel

Believe it or not, the dude is a graduate of Yale Law School. Proof that stupidity and racism cut across all academic circles.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:19:29pm

Boulders the size of large boulders.

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darthstar  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:20:08pm
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PhillyPretzel  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:21:25pm

WaPo ping:
Washington Post is now saying the asteroid is dust.

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Crush White Nationalism  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:21:41pm

Bill Nye in the crowd.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:22:06pm
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jaunte  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:22:30pm
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Egregious Philbin  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:23:03pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:25:15pm

re: #216 TarHellion

Believe it or not, the dude is a graduate of Yale Law School. Proof that stupidity and racism cuts across all academic circles.

It’s almost like these institutions that the elite use as markers of meritocratic worth are either ineffectual—not producing the bespoke Great Men they advertise—or malicious—a system rigged to elevate a certain kind of mediocrity and small-spiritedness that just keeps extending the human centipede of the status quo.

But it’s definitely not that general intelligence is largely meaningless as an index of clear thought because bad axioms plus G equals very logical bad solutions, and racism just happens to be one of those axioms.////

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:25:37pm

MrBWS tweeted what we managed to capture here:

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:26:14pm

It would be interesting to see a rounded stream-bed pebble in all that.

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Florida Panhandler  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:26:31pm

re: #222 jaunte

Talk about an easy lay-up pickup line on your resume…

..yes, I work for NASA… Planetary Defense.

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sagehen  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:26:48pm

re: #221 Charles Johnson

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things like this is why the rest of the world put up with our bullshit.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:27:11pm

re: #227 Florida Panhandler

It sounds so much more real than Space Force.

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darthstar  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:28:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:30:34pm

re: #227 Florida Panhandler

Talk about an easy lay-up pickup line on your resume…

..yes, I work for NASA… Planetary Defense.

but the Space Force new song is for shit

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:32:40pm

re: #184 jaunte

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NASA boss Bill Nelson wass just on congratulating the DART team. Mr. Nelson will be 80 years old this Thursday (born September 29 1942). He flew in space on the Shuttle Columbia while he was a Congressman in 1986. This was the last successful mission before the Challenger disaster.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:33:23pm

Did anyone else notice that Dimorphos looked like a Scotch egg?

Was this all just a hoax in a black room with a scotch egg as the target of a camera that zoomed in????

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TarHellion  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:34:41pm

America … Fuck Yeah!!!

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darthstar  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:35:26pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:36:16pm
general intelligence is largely meaningless as an index of clear thought because bad axioms plus G equals very logical bad solutions

History is full of clever monsters that built very efficient corpse-making industries for want of the base assumption “those people over there are also people.”

Stewart might be intelligent, even learned in the law, but what he wants is to be cruel and dominating. His theoretical intelligence chooses to live at the bottom of a well and only tolerates sunlight at noon.

He’s not fucking up because he’s stupid, he’s fucking up because he can’t conceptualize a framework in which his premises, based on being at the bottom of a well, aren’t true. That’s not stupidity, it’s folly. ofermod even. All of these fuckers, it’s hubris, the specific damming off of other possibilities because they are unflattering resulting in catastrophe…when they succeed the catastrophe is directed onto someone else, temporarily, but eventually the waveform collapses. Cruelty is a pretty primitive fucking problem solving tool.

Basically, the much memed bunker scene from Untergang played straight.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:36:45pm

re: #26 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

When all you have is a hammer.

Raising interest rates isn’t going to fix inflation created by Covid supply chain issues. Oh it might seem to help a little but it’s going to overall make things worse and potentially cause the recession everyone is trying to avoid.

No one “printed too much money”.

The Fed raising rates is stupid and they should know better. If the Bank of England does this it will be stupid too.

Paul Krugman (of all people) doesn’t oppose the action.

Yet if I were in Powell’s shoes, I would probably have done the same thing. For the Fed is anxious to preserve its credibility on inflation.

Notice that I said “preserve.” The Fed — like yours truly — failed to predict the 2021-22 inflation surge. But neither financial markets nor the public lost faith that inflation would, in fact, come down in the fairly near future.

That’s an important asset. Subdued inflation expectations are the best reason to believe that the Fed can engineer a relatively soft landing — an economic slowdown for sure, maybe a recession, but not the kind of sustained era of extremely high unemployment that it took to end the inflation of the 1970s.

And the Fed is acting to preserve this asset, trying to bring current inflation down soon enough that the public retains its faith in low future inflation. I don’t like it. I’ll be calling for a monetary pivot as soon as we have clear evidence that inflation is, in fact, coming down. But the Powell Fed is, I’m afraid, right to believe that retaining credibility is important.

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darthstar  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:38:59pm

Let them fight to the death.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 26, 2022 • 4:45:37pm

re: #224 The Ghost of a Flea


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