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ISM Hides Islamic Jihad Terrorist

Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 1:26:17 pm PST

Today in Jenin, IDF troops raided the offices of the International Solidarity Movement, the “peace” group to which Rachel Corrie belonged—and arrested a senior Islamic Jihad terrorist they were hiding.

The army said the man was being sheltered in the Jenin offices of the Palestinian-backed peace group whose members often act as human shields, placing themselves between Israeli soldiers and Palestinians.

An American activist with the group was killed on March 16 while trying to stop an Israeli military bulldozer in the Gaza Strip. She fell in front of the machine, which ran over her and then backed up, witnesses said.

The group said it did not know the man was wanted. The army said the suspect was a senior member of Islamic Jihad who planned a number of attacks on Israelis which were foiled by Israeli security forces.

The army said two women with the group — one British and the other Canadian — tried to hide the man but the group's spokesman, Tom Wallace, said the two group members were not aware of the man's identity.

The army said that during a search of the four-story building — which also houses offices of the International Committee of the Red Cross, international medical group Medicins Sans Frontieres and the Bank of Palestine — troops found a pistol in the International Solidarity Movement premises.

I’m amazed that the IDF didn’t also arrest those two women. One of them is British, eh? I wonder if it’s ex-scabies sufferer and orgy enthusiast Alice Coy?

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1 Sam I Am  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 11:28:00am

I'm shocked, shocked that there is jehadi going on here at ISM!

/sarcasm off

also...

FIRST!

2 V-Man  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 11:28:43am

Time to make some arrests/expulsions...

Oh, first?

3 V-man  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 11:31:36am

Missed "first" by a millisecond... :

4 Lively  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 11:32:38am

Ah yes, there's a war going on in Israel. I forgot about that for 6 days. Quick let me check Reuters to see if this story is there. No, the only thing there on Israel today, I kid you not, is Corrie's picture along with an unrelated article.

www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=CLKN5 YW2FAGUQCRBAELCFFA?type=politicsNews&storyID=2 461654

5 Nikita  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 11:35:53am

Some, cough, protest signs.

;-)

6 Sgt Rock  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 11:37:17am

#4 Lively:

There's not even a mention of her name anywhere in that article!

This is disgusting! Israel should dismantle the entire damn operation and kick all of them out and threaten them with prison if they ever return.

7 Nikita  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 11:38:18am

Actually take a look at the home page too...
ProtestWarrior.com, a website created to help arm the liberty-loving Silent Majority with ammo -- ammo that strikes at the intellectual solar plexus of the Left.

8 Ben F  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 11:39:03am

The way that Arutz 7 reported the incident, it's a Red Cross building, and American and British Red Cross workers tried to bar the IDF from entering. It may take a little while for the story to get sorted out.

9 Colt  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 11:44:53am

Don't the IDF level buildings used by terrorists?

See where I'm going with this?

10 Celissa  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 11:46:03am

ISM Hides Islamic Jihad Terrorist,/i>

Oh my God.......
The shock...
The surprise...
Oh...NO....must....faint..................

11 Alf  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 11:54:16am

"My word, Sherlock, how did you deduce that he was hiding there?"

"Do I really have to explain it to you, Watson?"


sarcasm/off

12 Grognard  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 11:54:43am

re: 5 Nikita
This is classic:

Except for ending slavery, Fascism, Nazism, and Communism War has Never Solved Anything!

We must support the Protest Warriors. I'll see if we have (or can start) a branch here in DC. This should be fun!

13 seattlerep  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 11:58:24am

'The group said they didn't know the man was wanted'

Uh, yeah right. A sphincter says what?

If the IDF shows up at your door, chances are you did something to bring them there.

14 Outsider  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 11:59:22am
15 Sam I Am  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 12:00:21pm

Another goodie from protestwarrior.com --


Support Muslim property rights from Western Imperialism!

No War in Iraq!

(This besides a picture of a burka clad women with a collar around her neck and tied to a post)

16 Outsider  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 12:03:08pm

#3 - V-man

FoxNews relays info that the US is spotting supplies crossing over from Syria

I wish that were the only problem.
The new rumor circulating is that

2,500 HizbAllah volunteers are on the way through Syria too.

17 Sam I Am  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 12:04:28pm

#14

I guess the Palis wanted to kill them before they grow up and join their murderous bretheren in the IDF


How much more evidence is required before the USA decides "Enough" and starts leveling that hell hole called the Middle East (aka Arabia)??

Also, I can't wait for Arafart or his new PM will deny any knowledge to this

18 Sam I Am  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 12:06:00pm

My first comment in #17 was meant to be sarcastic (in case anyone wanted to know)

19 bkw  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 12:12:28pm

'The group said they didn't know the man was wanted'

ummm then why were they hiding him?

20 el Barto  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 12:16:00pm

Al Jezera Hacked...Again.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

21 William  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 12:16:26pm
2,500 HizbAllah volunteers are on the way through Syria too.

Sounds like a good amount of cannon fodder; hopefully more are on the way.
 

22 William  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 12:18:45pm

el Barto, check out this story, Al-Jazeera is forced to move their web hosting to France:

[Link: www.littlegreenfootballs.com...]
 

23 Celissa  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 12:24:45pm

#21
Sounds like a good amount of cannon fodder; hopefully more are on the way.

Seems a shame we have to waste good ammunition on worthless meat puppets.

Maybe we can just run over them with our tanks like the Americans did with that truckload of Iraqi retards.

24 selpaw  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 12:25:35pm

From Charles:

I’m amazed that the IDF didn’t also arrest those two women. One of them is British, eh?

As I have wildly written on almost every thread
the Jews of the world are seething at Jack Straw's recent
vicious remarks.
To see what Straw actually said which caused yet another firestorm, click
here.

25 dennisw  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 12:26:29pm

***** Fucking "humanitarian" frauds and scumbags. Friends of terrorists. Enablers of Jew killers. The IDF has accused some of doing scouting work for terrorists. Much like drug dealers have scouts and look outs in our urban areas.

26 Russell  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 12:30:51pm

Australian labour politician believes that poor rachel should be awarded nobel peace prize.

That puts her on same level as carter and arafat.

27 Dave  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 12:32:27pm

el Barto, check out this story, Al-Jazeera is forced to move their web hosting to France:

How about this one. France threatened Turkey with EU exclusion if they let US troops in.

[Link: daily.nysun.com...]

28 selpaw  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 12:37:13pm

I just noticed I forgot to past my response to Charles in #24. I apologize.
my response.
Unfortunately this happens more times than reported.
The west bank and gaza is a hornets nest of poisonous hate.

Speaking of the British.......

29 aaron  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 12:39:41pm

a word or two about ISM's web site:

palsolidarity.org
IP: 64.72.132.42

Registered to:

International Solidarity Movement
George Rashanawi
64 Star Street, P.O.Box 24
Beit Sahour, PA 64224
US
Phone: 510-554-8587
Email: amir@4blacksheep.com

And their host?

PHPWEBHOSTING.COM
aka
Stefani Technologies, LLC
64.72.132.0 - 64.72.132.255

30 J Lichty  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 12:43:11pm

Can anyone give me a good reason how people affiliated with the ISM are able get into Israel.

They are clearly seditious and threats to the security of Israel. Travelling to another country is a privilege not a right, and these people have forfeited that privilege.

These ISMers are nothing but a liability. No good comes of their visit. Sure they will whine if not let in, but they whine and do much worse when they are let in.

End this madness at once Israel.

31 Model4  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 12:43:47pm

#19 bkw's right. No reason to hide him if they didn't know who he was or that the was wanted. Aiding and abetting, jail time, sent home on a tramp (pun intended) steamer.

Sorry, the news from Syria is more good than bad. When uncle Akbar doesn't return home victorious, it'll send a strong message. Heck, I wouldn't even be suprised if Syria's encouraging this. Not to hurt the US, as if they'd mind, but to thin out their bumper crop of jihadi agitators. In fact, I wouldn't be suprised to see Egypt, SA, Yemen, etc viewing the Coalition forces as the river that they can toss a sackful of their militant kittens into.

As far as supplies go (thinking of that stupid joke... heh), it could be informative to see what's flowing in, and from where (pre-Syria). Stay sharp and strong Allies, we're with you all the way.

32 Robert Brandtjen  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 12:44:47pm

#21

2,500 HizbAllah volunteers are on the way through Syria too.

Sounds like a good amount of cannon fodder; hopefully more are on the way

They won't make it across the western desert, the allies are bombing anything that moves across it - like that bus full of "innocents" the other day, they got nailed hard by a rocket launched from one of our jets.

33 Robert Brandtjen  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 12:49:51pm

OT- about mainstream media reporting by the press. Dont let it get you down, My Dad sent me this email this moring with regard to my frustration over the apparent defeatism of the network news people:

America was in WW II when I was 14 -18 years old and I followed that war very closely. There was a pattern then and it seems to be evident now in the Iraq war. In WW II the same pattern prevailed in the Pacific and in No. Africa and Europe. There will be heavy fighting for a while during which the media say things are difficult and we may not prevail and then there will be a break through and the Allies would sweep ahead and the media would say the
enemy seems defeated and then the advance would stop and the media would say that the Allies have been unable to overcome the enemy and the situation is serious. This was repeated over and over and over and yet the media never got it right. If I could figure it out why couldn't they? I think the reason is that the media isn't interested in accuracy but only in sensationalism. During the Battle of the Bulge the media made it sound like the Germans were going to cut off large parts of the American army and cause a large defeat for us. The truth was the outnumbered Americans in that sector of the front were fighting like hell and were inflicting heavy losses on the Germans and soon brought the German advance to a stand still. Unfortunately, you can't get the truth until later. It seems to me the war is going normally when you
have an enemy that is willing to fight.
Dad
34 J.D.  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 12:53:31pm

"the Palestinian-backed peace group"

yeah. right.

35 mickthemick  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 12:56:26pm

I agree that Israel should begin deporting members of the ISM. It should investigate their activities to determine if they are directly supporting terrorism. They indirectly support it in many ways through their drawing comparisons with IDF actions along the lines of "moral" equivalency. But I wonder to what extent ISM members knowlingly support violent operations carried out by Hamas, PIJ, and other Arabs.

36 piglet  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 1:03:15pm

How to handle these ISM suicide bomber lovers.

THe appropriate governmental agency should:

1) Knock them unconscious.

2) Insert 5 feet of surgical rubber tubing filled with
c-4 controled with a cellphone and GPS.

3) When the gps says their where the bad guys are.

4) Phone them. (Reach out and touch someone.)


Sorry just thinkin out loud again.

37 David  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 1:06:19pm

More evidence that these criminals and terror enablers should be deported - to Iraq. Let them be "human shields" for the Republican Guard.
#14 - thanks for that story. My guess is that it won't be even mentioned in the mainstream press, which is still fretting over poor Rachel. No doubt this is the very kind of mega-attack that Arafat has been promising in order to kill more innocents and force Israel to "over-react." Yet, these are the animals this "peace group" are coddling and protecting.

38 mickthemick  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 1:09:04pm

#30JLichty asks:

Can anyone give me a good reason how people affiliated with the ISM are able get into Israel.

They enter on tourist and student visas, then lie to customs, cops, soldiers, etc. as need be. As far as I know, it's not illegal in Israel to be a member of the ISM (any Israelis care to shed some light on this?). There are probably even Israeli members. Again, some input from Israeli posters would be enlightening.

39 Outsider  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 1:10:56pm

#31 - Model4

I wouldn't even be suprised if Syria's encouraging this. Not to hurt the US, as if they'd mind, but to thin out their bumper crop of jihadi agitators.

The Jihadi problem does not apply to Syria.
Assad (senior) dealt with the problem years ago, in the massacre of Hama.
The only real opposition left (alive, even though jailed) in Syria is liberals (socialists mainly).
This is unique in the arab world, because the potential of peace with Israel endangers the regime from the side of sane people, and not the Jihadies.

Syria is against this Gulf war, (unlike the first "coalition"), because the US has nothing to offer them any more.
Occupation of Lebanon? already got it in '91.
Financial support? they already make at least 1 Billion $ annualy smuggling Iraqi oil. And you bet they are milking the Lebanese economy.
American support for the regime? they don't need it, not to mention this is yet another Ba'ath party regime.

HizbAllah are Lebanese Shiites with high level Pasdrani (Irani revolutionary guards) training, not Syrians.
Some Palestinians from the refugee camps are in this mad road trip too. The reason that I'm worried is that there may be state of the art Russian weapons that they are carrying: SA-18 & Kornet E MANPADS.

40 Atoz  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 1:12:01pm

#26:

Considering her current state, I think you mean the "piece" prize.

41 skukeisha  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 1:15:02pm

Totally OT - Richard Perle resigned!

Check CNNdotcom for linkage...

42 mikeymom  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 1:17:54pm

#33--i love your Dad!!! will he adopt me-since mine has passed and would-if he could be on this site-and our side!! i dont eat much and just want daddy hugs-lol-

43 roach[deleted]  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 1:19:03pm
44 Outsider  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 1:23:47pm

#38 - mickthemick

There are Israeli members of ISM, it is not illegal indeed as you suggested.

Whenever ministry of internal affairs tries to stop "peace activists" from getting here (and we know when they come here in advance) they appeal to the courts and a windbag judge lets them in.
Emergency security measures laws have been in place here since forever, the legal department & co. likes to let the government know they exist every once in a while,
even if it is at the expense of Israeli interests.

Move along, casual windbag stupidity here 8-)

45 William  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 1:29:52pm

#33, regarding media defeatism, Taranto laid it down quite nicely today:

[Link: www.opinionjournal.com...]

Taranto excerpt: "Eight days--that's 192 hours, 11,520 minutes, nearly 700,000 seconds!  What's taking so long?"

My take: what's happening, is the media are now let down by the expectations set by the media.  Everyone else (e.g., Rumsfeld, et al) are proceeding as scheduled, and on course.  The media have created a straw man on a grand scale, that the liberation of Iraq "won't be a cakewalk" -- no one ever said it would be, except the pinheads in the media...
 

46 atomic conspiracy  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 1:32:44pm

"2,500 HizbAllah volunteers are on the way through Syria too.

Sounds like a good amount of cannon fodder; hopefully more are on the way."

Ah, excellent news. They can replace "unreliable" Iraqi troops in the front lines and that many more terrorized conscripts will make it home to their families. The terrorist scum themselves will become much-needed fertilizer for Iraqi farmland. It's a win/win.

47 Alan E Brain  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 1:38:05pm

Re : #24
I can agree with Blair's remarks.

The prime minister stressed that in the context of securing justice, "People want to see a situation in which Israeli citizens are protected from the appalling ravages of terrorism, and Palestinians are able to live in their own viable state, and make a decent living for themselves."


In order to achieve this, the whole Palestinian leadership must change IMHO, and many people will disagree with my support of a Palestinian state, but that's another matter.
As for Jack Straw:

On Tuesday, Straw told the BBC World Service he understood Arab concern about what he described as "injustice against the Palestinians."
"There is a real concern too that the West has been guilty of double standards - on the one hand saying the United Nations Security Council resolutions on Iraq must be implemented; on the other hand, sometimes appearing rather quixotic over the implementation of resolutions about Israel and Palestine."
Asked if he would plead guilty to double standards, Straw said: "To a degree yes... and we're going to deal with it."


By cancelling the dozens of Jew-bashing resolutions passed by Arab-financed 3rd world Kleptocrats and Soviet Clients during the Cold War, I presume? The former are still with us, but the latter are now "with US" in a different way.
No? Well then, this Goy will be rather incandescent about it too. By all means keep any justified anti-Israel resolutions (if you can find any), but let's get rid of this stain on the UN. Otherwise even UN-supporters like myself will be saying that the organisation needs mending with a new one. After the Iraqi farce, where the UNSC didn't live up to its responsibilities, the task of salvage is looking more and more difficult, despite the extremely good works of the WHO and ILO. Even then, for every WHO there's a UNESCO.

48 Robert Brandtjen  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 1:39:32pm

#42 -

LOL - he wouldn't mind at all, considering I do have a sister still living (though she was a child at the time) in the 1960's- she actually called the day garcia of the dead died - "a day that would live on history as one of it's saddest"

I replied, of course, that his career wouldn't even warrent a footnote in the anals of rock, let alone "history". She is quite content these days living on the Kalifornia coast and taking up any of the myraid feminista/anti-american, anti-family, anti-normal anything causes that comes along- must be the sea air? now working on her 3rd or 4th divorce (forget which after so many) and pining for a neal young concert.

49 Bob  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 2:01:02pm

ny slimes says whoops "SMARTER TIMES


Wrong Bulldozer

The New YorkTimes yesterday printed a correction to a photo cutline it ran with a March 17, 2003, article on the death of Rachel Corrie, the American woman who was crushed to death by an Israeli bulldozer.The cutline accompanied a photo of Corrie, with a bullhorn in hand, standing in front of a bulldozer.The photo showed her clearly in the driver’s line of vision.The photo "shows Rachel Corrie trying to talk to the driver of an Israeli bulldozer before it killed her," the cutline stated as it ran in the Times on March 17.
The correction says the Times "referred incorrectly to the bulldozer shown. It was the one that the protester, Rachel Corrie, had earlier tried to stop from destroying a Palestinian home. It was not the one that killed her."
But it’s not just the wrong bulldozer that was the problem with the photo. The photo misled readers into thinking the bulldozer driver saw the woman before deliberately running her over. The Israeli military says the driver did not see her, as the March 17 Times article itself notes. David Bedein, of the Israel Resource News Agency, quotes a friend of Corrie’s saying,"When the bulldozer started to dig in the dirt pile, the pile started to move, and she could have rolled sideways quickly or fallen backwards to avoid being hit. But Rachel leaned forward to climb to the top of the dirt hill. The bulldozer’s digging drew her downward, and its driver could not see her anymore."
What the photo shows is just short of murder; what actually happened, according to the Israeli military, is a terrible accident. What needs correcting is not just which bulldozer it was — it is that the entire situation as portrayed by the misleading picture is different from the one that led to Corrie’s death. "

50 gb  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 2:03:24pm

#24 selpaw

'Earlier, British Foreign Minister Jack Straw said the West was hypocritical not to demand the same sort of adherence to UN Security Council resolutions for the
Israeli Palestinian conflict as it does from Iraq.'

Does this mean that the UK will demand that the Arab countries accept UN resolution 181 - [Link: www.mfa.gov.il...] - rather that a
'strategic peace' based on 'legitimate UN resolutions'?

Or am I living in a parallel universe?

51 RightIsRight  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 2:09:13pm

#43 Roach

Nice work over there...

52 gb  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 2:14:55pm

#33 Robert

I like your dad.

53 Greg  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 2:21:15pm

And then there were none....

Please forward these sheep to North Carolina. After seeing Rachel's contribution to Israeli road improvement, we would like to use some more of these voluteers to help fill the many potholes from a nasty winter. The roads have just gone to heck, and these doofuses seem like a logical choice.

Thanks!

54 Yehudit  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 2:49:47pm
'Earlier, British Foreign Minister Jack Straw said the West was hypocritical not to demand the same sort of adherence to UN Security Council resolutions for the Israeli Palestinian conflict as it does from Iraq.'

I fisked Jack Straw here - somebody please educate him on the history of the UN please.

(PS - most of the URLs I used are from selpaw - thanks!)

55 Model4  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 3:00:45pm

#39 outsider: Don't know if I can disagree with what you posted, but it just has been stated over and over that Syria is one of the worst terror-sponsoring states. And if there are problems from Lebanon, and Syria controls Lebanon, then that seems to be their reponsibility too. They do still want to keep their regime, so that's remaining US leverage.

Interesting though to learn that they wiped out so many of their jihadis. Poetic that their biggest internal problem is the leftists, that made me smile. Amazing that either side of that oil and water marriage thought it would last (and still does). But who sells out who first?

And if the Jordyptians get involved, well, I'd sure want that handled in the harshest of ways. Even if not, it would be another black mark against the PLO. While I wish no British deaths, if they get hit by them it might just wake up some Brits back home. Wonder how it's playing on their TV now that the Union Jack is being burned in the steets of the West Bank and Gaza. Leftist kooks and right-wing radicals again. Heheheh.

56 Emmett  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 3:42:01pm

#33

Your Dad is very astute.

Forget the bias and sneering of partisans like Jennings, Rather, and Forrest Sawyer for a moment. We have to remember that the news media is a business and the hook for their customers is the headline in the case of print, and the hot lead story for the broadcast boys. Granted there is a lot of bias, but sometimes it's really them marketing their “product” to capture the maximum number of eyeballs in a very competitive and narrow-margin business. They will sensationalize every little thing to keep you watching the channel, or buying the paper. That’s why we keep getting the see saw effect in the stories we read and hear: we’re winning, we’re losing, we’re winning, we’re losing. It’s their version of marketing.

57 ploome  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 5:07:25pm

#41 skukeisha

was Richard Perle set up by the Saudis?

[Link: www.newyorker.com...]

58 HotBrownSandwich  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 5:51:03pm

# 4 Lively

Good freakin grief. Good eye.

59 Vroom Vroom  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 6:03:03pm

More bulldozers, please. And sharpen those tracks.

60 CastorOil  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 6:44:06pm

The IDF should demolish the building that was hiding a terrorist. And I wouldn't shed any tears for the International Red Cross.
If I remember well, they refuse to accept Magen David Adom as their Israeli counterpart, the same way they accept The Red Crescent(?)
Please correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't followed this subject since 9/11.

61 CastorOil  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 7:21:18pm

Hey, Charles,

I went to the Arutz Sheva site:
[Link: www.israelnn.com...]

and the article now says the Red Cross was hiding the terrorist!!!

62 hun ordained rabbi  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 8:35:23pm

If you have the stomach for it, see how a thread for Cory quickly degenerates into, what is that called, liberal thinking? By the way, John-5 is an "International Aid Worker" somewhere around Bethlehem.
Somehow or other I haven't been able to log on there for some time. sigh.
Can anything be done about this?

63 marek  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 8:37:11pm

re #61 CastorOil

see [Link: www.imra.org.il...]

64 Spiny Norman  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 8:38:01pm

#49 Bob

Oh, this is just beautiful!

We pointed out this glaring flaw in ISM's "murder" argument and got buried in ad hominems from idiotarians of all stripes. Hmm, where are the naughty little troll babies now?

Old Grey Lady = dumbitchsayswhat?

65 CastorOil  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 9:42:02pm

#63 - thank you, marek. So it is the ISM and not the Red Cross.

66 spidly  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 10:01:51pm

#21

perhaps a protracted war is actually a good strategy - we could inflame the passions on the arab street, they would come in droves, and we would blow them to hell as they crossed the border on their double deckers and white Toyota PU's. In a year or two we could have Islam thoroughly pacified.

67 CastorOil  Thu, Mar 27, 2003 10:13:42pm

#62 - AARON2 in one of his messages at [Link: www.sweden.com...] tries to figure how "peace" can be achieved:

..........

The only way to deal with the israeli defence force and their terror is to use force as well, unfortunately,
because that is the only language they understand.

If they send a dozer just make use of Anti-tank missles
and there will be nothing left of it but a piece of junk.

If tank roll on, do the same, very easy.

But now there is one problem: The F-15's and F-16's of the israeli air force.(Helicopters can be shot down with
slow surface to air missles).
If the palestinians were able to shoot down these fighters they gained more respect. So that is what they need.
Only when the palestinians are strong enough will they
be respected and treated better by the IAF/IDF.

These are the rantings of the Piece Movement (I spelled it like this on purpose). Any wonder that they hide terrorists and weapons? Why do the Israelis let them in?

68 nobody important  Fri, Mar 28, 2003 4:11:15am

You have to be an idiot(arian) not to recognize that all these so-called "peace" organizations are tolerated by the Palistinian political/military leadership because they work in concert with, support the ultimate goal of, and indeed are an integral part of the military and political offensive conducted by the Palestinains: THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL AND THE ELIMINATION OF THE JEWS FROM THE MIDDLE EAST.

BTW, am I being to polite here? I never seem to get called any names. Should I interperse my comments with more colorful language? Like dickwad, fuckwit, or something?

69 Joel  Fri, Mar 28, 2003 10:01:29am

I hope that that wall that Israel is building to keep freaks out is progressing and will be completed soon. Anyh word on its progress?

70 Grognard  Fri, Mar 28, 2003 10:44:37am

re: 24 selpaw
What part of

"There is a real concern too that the West has been guilty of double standards - on the one hand saying the United Nations Security Council resolutions on Iraq must be implemented; on the other hand, sometimes appearing rather quixotic over the implementation of resolutions about Israel and Palestine."

is "vicious"? Why would you take offense at his assertion that resolutions on the Israel/Palestine issue had not been adequately enforced? Are you saying that we shouldn't force the arabs to adhere to UN 42, 242, and 438 so that Israel could too?

re: 54 Yehudit
I read the linked post and the articles it links to but I did not find anything remotely approaching a Fisking. All you did was admit that Israel wasn't incompliance with a bunch of resolutions for various reasons. We already knew that.

71 Chana  Sat, Mar 29, 2003 10:59:43pm

The other day there was an awards ceremony for Israeli Theatre (like a USA Tony) and one of the recipients said he is dedicating his to Rachel Corrie. We don't need imported idiots - we have own own idiots, thank-you.

72 zulubaby  Sun, Mar 30, 2003 2:12:40am

Chana (#71)

That's nauseating.


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