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Hurl a Rock for Peace

Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 5:38:26 pm PST

In Australia, here’s a web site called “Virtual Palestine” where you can write a message of hate on a rock, and then virtually “throw” it—just like a Palestinian. Of course, in this glamorous Flash version of an inherently violent act, the rock vanishes into the sunset and lovely stars appear—unlike the reality, where if that rock connected with its intended target, an Israeli would be rushed to the hospital: VirtualPalestine.

Oh, but don’t get them wrong; they’re not trying to glorify violence. A disclaimer on the page reads:

The "Stonethrower" animation is an attempt to redefine what has become a negative media image of Palestinians into a positive icon. No offence is intended.

See? Just some nice clean Islamic fun.

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#1 Bob G. 8/17/03 3:44:54 pm 0

And you thought there were no Palestinian rock-stars.

#2 Bert Wolff 8/17/03 3:45:01 pm 0

The "Stonethrower" animation is an attempt to redefine up as down, in as out, and white as black.

#3 JohninLondon 8/17/03 3:45:16 pm 0

I had drawn attention to this virulent site on an earlier thread.

And guess what ? It is funded by the Aussie taxpayer via an Arts funding organisation.

"Those whom the gods wish to destroy, they first make mad"

#4 rizzo 8/17/03 3:45:19 pm 0
is an attempt to redefine what has become a negative media image of Palestinians

G-d forbid the Pali's try something positive.

#5 Ken Davidson 8/17/03 3:45:41 pm 1

Maybe these guys could also redefine what has become a negative media image of the Nazis into a positive icon. I suggest selling Third Reich memorabilia in Hong Kong stores, or hanging cool pictures of Adolf and the boys in karaoke bars.

Oh, damn...never mind. Someone already thought of that.

#6 Camel Prophet 8/17/03 3:46:16 pm 0

IF YOU HAVE A TEETH-GRINDING PROBLEM, STOP HERE

I believe that you can trust a muslim as far as you can spit against a hurricane. Deceit is the cardinal virtue to a muslim. Read some of the anti-Amin (the recently flushed piece of muslim shit) comments from the top of the attached post, and then scroll to the whitewashers on the bottom page. It doesn't matter that that idiot slaughtered his countrymen, including a Roman Catholic Bishop, the mad mullahs believe he should be judged by the number of carpet humpers that he put through Uganda's colleges.

[Link: www.ugandamission.net...]

#7 Leesider 8/17/03 3:48:14 pm -14

Well in reality the intended target would be safely ensconsed in a Merkava.

You people complain when innocent Israelis are killed in a suicide bomb, Good!

When a Palestinian throws rocks how much of a threat is he to Isreal?

Answer: None

#8 quark2 8/17/03 3:53:11 pm 0

@7


GAZE

Personally I think some real rocks ought to be thrown at whoever thought this idea up.
That would draw some real blood.

#9 AG in Houston 8/17/03 3:55:31 pm 0

Jack off mofos

I got smacked in the mouth by a Pali rock thrower at almost point blank.

The fucker took a good number of my teeth and almost killed me.

#10 American Infidel 8/17/03 3:56:18 pm 0

If there were a "Hurl a rock at a Paleostinian" site, you bet there would be temper tantrums.

*listens for tantrums about this a rock for genocide site*

*crickets*

#11 Yair 8/17/03 3:56:48 pm 0

Yeah. Typical ISM-style nonsense. Violence is OK as long as it's for "peace", in which case you are not a warmonger.


______
Wait, some moron just wrote:


When a Palestinian throws rocks how much of a threat is he to Isreal?

When an IDF soldier gets hit in the head by a rock and winds up comatose, at is just as much a threat to Israel as blowing up a car full of terrorists is for the Palestinians.

Well in reality the intended target would be safely ensconsed in a Merkava.

Ensconced in a Merkhava is preferable perhaps to the large number of infantry needed to shoot tear gas at stone throwing juveniles and to man checkpoints. Ideally, we should just carpet bomb from the air and be done with it, but Israeli's are too nice to do that. We should learn from the Russians and Americans.

#12 Yair 8/17/03 3:59:27 pm 0

Moron Leesider,

Go stand in a hail of rocks and see how much you like it. The most efficient way to do this is to move to an Islamic country and publicly denounce the Koran.

Let us know how it goes.

#13 Yair 8/17/03 4:01:24 pm 1

Charles, LGF is confirming my suspicion that the world has gone insane more and more. Perhaps I should stop reading it.

#14 Lively 8/17/03 4:02:58 pm 1

#7 Blindsider: Stoning is a form of capital punishment that goes on today in many muslim countries. Think first.....people who live in glass houses should not post.

#15 A Jackson 8/17/03 4:03:01 pm 0

What a clever idea! The site should take it much farther - let users virtually blow up women and children with a virtual suicide bombs. Virtually murder other virtual Palis for virtual collaboration. And how about the ever popular virtual honor killing of virtual female members of your virtual family. I bet there's a huge market for this! They could sell a stand-alone version as SimTerrorist, and then follow-up with SimLeftistBuffoon, SimIdiotarian, SimDemocaticAsshat, and finally SimFisk.

#16 Bob G. 8/17/03 4:04:06 pm 0

#7, you're right, rocks never hurt anyone. PLEASE throw one at the nearest police officer.

#17 Yair 8/17/03 4:04:11 pm 0
The fucker took a good number of my teeth and almost killed me.

AG,

I hope you almost killed a few of them as personal thank you.

#18 rizzo 8/17/03 4:08:37 pm 0

7 leesider

When a Palestinian throws rocks how much of a threat is he to Isreal?

The children throwing the rocks are not the problem. Its the adults directing the children to throw the rocks for the European(ie worldwide) cameras that contribute to the perception of Israelis aggression. Unfortunately, the Pali's don't want a two state solution. So, there is a problem brought on by the PALI'S.

#19 Nekama 8/17/03 4:10:09 pm 70

#7 Leesider

Congratulations. You are the first to receive the memo:

MEMO

This is an automated reply from the Bullshit Detector at Little Green Footballs.
Your recent post contained troll-like characteristics which resembles the type of message sent by spoiled ISM members on summer holiday, college students who have recently inhaled Noam Chomsky’s foul rantings, Adam Shapiro wannabes, Nazi sympathizers, or genuine Koranimals.

In order to prevent another thread being hijacked, and to send your message to the appropriate department for response (FOAD, GAZE, Go Away Gordon, or The Bus To Rachel Corrie’s Tomb Is Leaving - Be Sure You’re Under It), kindly reply to the following questions:

1. Are you aware that the Disputed Territories never belonged to the “Palestinians” and only came into Israeli possession as a result of the 1967 six day war in which Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon all massed forces at Israel’s border in order to “push the Jews into the sea”. The Arabs lost and Israel took control of the land. Do you agree that if the Koranimals don’t want to lose territory to Israel, then they shouldn’t start wars? Do you agree that there is justice that Israel, who as far back as 1948 has always sought peace with her far larger neighbors, should live in prosperity - making the desert bloom - while the residents of 19 adjacent Arab countries who are blessed with far more land as well as oil wealth live in their own feces?

2. Did you know that the “Palestinians” could have had their own country as far back as 1948 had they accepted the UN sponsored partition plan which gave Israel AND the Palestinians a countries of their own on land which Jews had lived on for thousands of years before Mohammed ever had a wet dream about virgins? The Arabs rejected the UN offer and went to war with the infant Israeli nation. The Arabs lost and have been whining about it ever since. Do you agree this is like a murderer who kills his parents and asks for special treatment since he is now an orphan?

3. Can you tell us ANY Arab country which offers Jews the right to be citizens, vote, own property, businesses, be a part of the government or have ANY of the rights which Israeli Arabs enjoy? Any Arab country which gives those rights to Christians? How about to other Arabs? Wouldn’t you just LOVE to be a citizen of Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Iran, or Syria?

4. Since as many Jews (approximately 850,000) were kicked out of Arab countries as were Arabs who left present day Israel (despite being literally begged to stay), why should Arabs be permitted to return to Israel if Jews aren’t allowed to set foot in Arab countries? Can you explain why Arabs can worship freely in Israel but Jews would certainly be hung from street lamps after having their intestines devoured by an Arab mob if they so much as entered an Arab country?

5. Israel resettled and absorbed all of the Jews from Arab countries who wished to become Israelis. Why haven’t any Arab countries offered to resettle Arabs who were displaced from Israel, leaving them to rot for 60 years in squalid refugee camps? And why are those refugee camps still there? Could it be that the billions of dollars that the UNWRA has sent there goes to terrorist groups like Hamas, Islamic Jihad, El Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, or Hezbollah? How did Yassir Arafat achieve his $300 million in wealth? Why aren’t these funds distributed for humanitarian use?

6. Did you know that the Arabs in the disputed territories (conquered by Israel in the 1967 war which was started by Arabs) and who are not Israelis already have two countries right now? And that they are called Egypt and Jordan?

7. If your complaint is about the security fence which Israel is finally building in the Disputed Territories, are you aware that it is built solely to keep the “brave” Arab terrorists out so that they can no longer self detonate on busses, in dining halls or pizzerias and kill Jewish grandmothers and schoolchildren? Why are the Arabs so brave when they target unarmed civilians but even when they outnumber their opponents they get their sandy asses kicked all the way to Mecca when they are faced with Jewish soldiers? Why do Arab soldiers make the French look like super heroes?

8. Please explain why you are so concerned about Arabs, who possess 99% of the land in this region and are in control of the world’s greatest natural resource, which literally flows out of the ground? Can’t their brother muslims offer some of the surplus land and nature’s riches to the “Palestinians”? Or is it true that Arabs are willing to die right down to the last “Palestinian”?

9. Why do you not exhibit the same level of concern for say, people in Saudi Arabia who are beheaded, subject to amputation, stoning, honor killing etc.? What about women who are denied any semblance of basic civil rights, including the right not to be treated as property for the entertainment and abuse of her father, brothers, or husbands? What about the Muslims in Sudan and Egypt who are still enslaved, or the women there whose genitalia are barbarically cut off? How about the oppression of Shiites by Sunnis, the gassing of the Kurds by Iraq, or the massacre of “Palestinians” by Jordan (Black September)? Why doesn’t this concern you?

10. Did you ever stop to wonder how much better off everyone in the region would be if Arabs stopped trying to kill Jews and destroy Israel? What would happen if the Israelis gave up their weapons and disarmed? Would they live to see the next day? But what would happen if the Arabs completely disarmed? You know the answer: They would all be AT PEACE! And if there is no war to rile them up, the Arabs would be forced to look at their own repressive, pre-medieval societies. Why would they want to do that when there are Jews to kill?

11. Have you heard “People who define themselves primarily by what they hate, rather than who they love, are doomed to failure and misery”? Can you see the parallels to the Arabs, who are blessed with land and oil, but still gladly train their children to kill themselves in order to kill Jews? Have you heard Golda Meir’s words to the effect of “There will be peace when the Arabs love their children more than they hate ours”? Why do the Arabs hate so much?


Please state your answers to the questions listed above. If you need assistance or require additional study, then please refer to the following links:

History of the Middle East Conflict:
[Link: www.infoclick.org...]

Thousands of women killed for honor: [Link: news.nationalgeographic.com...]

Muslims lament Israel’s existence:
[Link: www.iht.com...]

Disputed Territories – Forgotten Facts
[Link: www.mfa.gov.il...]

The size of Israel compared to neighboring countries in the region
[Link: www.iris.org.il...]

Jews expelled from Arab Countries
[Link: www.jpost.com...]

One Million Jews flee Arab countries – why no right of return for them?
[Link: www.forgottenexodus.com...]

Middle East Facts
[Link: yashiko.middleeastfacts.com...]

Middle East Truth
[Link: www.mideasttruth.com...]

Larry Miller on Hypocrisy
[Link: weeklystandard.com...]

Please respond to the items listed above. Based on your answers a thoughtful reply or instruction to FOAD will be provided.

Thank you for writing to Little Green Footballs.

Signed,

Troll Early Warning Detection Team

#20 Charles 8/17/03 4:13:04 pm 15

Nekama: A work of genius. I salute you.

#21 Macula 8/17/03 4:13:22 pm 0

How about arming the IDF with rocks?

...and just wait for the reaction from asshats like Leesider

#22 Bob G. 8/17/03 4:14:51 pm 0

Rack #19 & send straight to Cooperstown. Epic!

#23 Lively 8/17/03 4:14:58 pm 0

Nekama: I'm stealing that. :)

#24 Nekama 8/17/03 4:17:05 pm 0

#20 Charles

There is no higher compliment. Thank you.

#25 Yuvalien 8/17/03 4:19:18 pm 0

#21 Macula,

To one group, stones are symbols of foundation. To another, they are tools of destruction.

#26 zulubaby 8/17/03 4:20:55 pm 0

Nekama (#19)

Outstanding!

#27 Macula 8/17/03 4:22:04 pm 0

Nekama

Your post is an absolute masterpiece that blows away all the lies and tears apart the frantic revising of history that has taken place over the past 60 years.

Do you mind if I copy that work of genius? It will become the main weapon in my anti-bullshit arsenal.

#28 Talcott 8/17/03 4:23:23 pm 0

Nekama,

Oh yea, that's a keeper. Thank you.

#29 zulubaby 8/17/03 4:23:26 pm 0
In order to prevent another thread being hijacked, and to send your message to the appropriate department for response (FOAD, GAZE, Go Away Gordon, or The Bus To Rachel Corrie’s Tomb Is Leaving - Be Sure You’re Under It), kindly reply to the following questions:

How much do I just love that. Brilliant. No realli!

#30 sean crowley 8/17/03 4:26:09 pm 0

Nekama,

That'll about cover leesider I think.

#31 hans ze beeman 8/17/03 4:26:17 pm 1

Nekama: wow, excellent! Certainly, your post might become known as Nekama's Troll Hammer here on LGF soon enough...

#32 Geepers 8/17/03 4:26:43 pm 0

Nekama,

SWEET!

An LGF instant classic. "Send a MEMO to that troll."

#33 zulubaby 8/17/03 4:28:08 pm 0

hans ze beeman (#31)

I bookmarked it as 'Official LGF Troll Memo' :-)

#34 Lumiere 8/17/03 4:28:39 pm 0

Note to Nekama:
Now that's impressive! Great work! What can I say but WOW!

#35 Zionista 8/17/03 4:28:52 pm 0

(Ha'aretz Ticker, August 17, 2003/Av 19, 15:16)- IDF Intelligence Chief tells gov`t that Palestinians in some places threw stones at militants en route to attacks (Israel Radio).

#36 quark2 8/17/03 4:29:34 pm 0

@19 nekama


You have in one posting stated what I've been thinking, believing and saying for years!
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

I am not only going to steal this, I am going to post it with credits to you on my weblog too.

Do you mind if I also share this with the Rottey?

WOW!
You are totally awesome!

#37 Yair 8/17/03 4:30:01 pm 0

Nekama,

and to send your message to the appropriate department for response (FOAD, GAZE, Go Away Gordon, or The Bus To Rachel Corrie’s Tomb Is Leaving - Be Sure You’re Under It), kindly reply to the following questions:

LOL! Far better to nail every anti-semitic troll with this than numerous responses. Kick ass.

#38 Nekama 8/17/03 4:30:25 pm 2

Please consider The Memo to be an open source, Linux based reply that all are welcome to use and improve upon.

Inspired by Zulubaby.

#39 Targetpractice 8/17/03 4:32:12 pm 0

Nekama, you have just received idol status amongst the friends and family of LGF, what are you going to do next?

#40 Yair 8/17/03 4:33:43 pm 0
I bookmarked it as 'Official LGF Troll Memo' :-)

Good idea! Somebody perhaps should be designated as the memo poster so that we don't get 1000 memos posted for every troll. I vote Nekama or Charles, unless they are sleeping.

#41 Yair 8/17/03 4:34:20 pm 0

Just bookmarked it too.

#42 zulubaby 8/17/03 4:35:28 pm 0

Nekama (#38)

Oh, you are such a doll! I'm honoured that I inspired such brilliance in you ;-)

#43 Philly G 8/17/03 4:36:00 pm 0

Wow Nekama, I need to memorize that the next time I heard another idiotic "Israel is the problem" rant.

You pretty much said it all. It's really unbelievable how one could side with the Palestinians given the history of the conflict. Particularly Jews like Chomsky and Shapiro. How or better yet, why, would a Jew hate his own people so much?

I don't get it. I must have missed that LLL memo or something.

#44 hans ze beeman 8/17/03 4:36:09 pm 0

#33: zulubaby

Me too. Such a gem should not be lost :)

#45 Macula 8/17/03 4:37:08 pm 0

Leesider is on the NYT Entebbe thread.

I posted a link to Nekama's memo

#46 Nekama 8/17/03 4:41:18 pm 0

#39 TargetPractice

Nekama, you have just received idol status amongst the friends and family of LGF, what are you going to do next?

I'm inviting my LGF family to join me on vacation in Israel!

Zulubaby is the official LGF travel agent...

Make It So!

#47 Anne 8/17/03 4:42:15 pm 0

So many people in the world act like rockthrowing is such an innocent,harmless thing.But it's not. It can severly injure and yes even kill people.Try telling the parents of this baby rockthrowing isn't lethal. [Link: www.shilo.org.il...]
I have also seen pictures of soldiers bleeding to death and some paralyzed for life by *innocent* rock throwers.
Palestinian parents that let their children out in the streets to throw rocks,bottles,and firebombbs at Israeli civilians or soldiers should be put in jail and charged with child endangermant in my opinion.

#48 Leesider 8/17/03 4:43:38 pm 0

A question for the LGF'ers

Is someone an anti-semite if they like:

Karl Popper
Stanley Kubrick
Philip Roth
Marc Bolan

but dislike

Arik Sharon

I'd like to hear an answer on that!

#49 justdanny 8/17/03 4:45:53 pm 0

Nekama

Single most impressive post I have ever read on this site. For the first time ever I have saved a link to an LGF thread, titled simply "nekama 19".

#50 zulubaby 8/17/03 4:46:31 pm 0

Leesider (#48)

Go read post #19 and stop asking dumb questions.

#51 Thufir Hawat 8/17/03 4:49:33 pm 0

To: Oz-bigot Jihadis
From: Seppo-land (USA)

Fuck off and die, and fuck your weird shithole of a country, with its "N****r Peak" still on the map, its obsession with alcohol and public house brawling, its 1950s British tabloid inspired media, and its slavish acceptance of Michael Moore as divine and unimpeachable authority on all things American.

Hee hee, no offence intended. Had you going, didn't I, you Bali-bomb apologist assholes. No offence, again.

#52 zulubaby 8/17/03 4:52:54 pm 0

Anne (#47)

That is absolutely heartbreaking. May his sweet soul rest in peace.

See AG in Houston's post too.

#53 Yair 8/17/03 4:54:10 pm 0
Is someone an anti-semite if they like:

No. But if that person thinks throwing rocks at 18 yr old Israeli troops is just fine, I'd have to say yes.

#54 zulubaby 8/17/03 4:55:50 pm 0

Nekama (#46)

I'm in. When do we leave? :-)

#55 Evil Otto 8/17/03 4:56:31 pm 0

#48 Leesider:

I'd like to hear an answer on that!

Well, we would like to hear your answers to #19's points. Don't suppose that's going to happen, hmm?

#56 AG in Houston 8/17/03 5:02:09 pm 0

Nekama,

Nekama indeed.

leesider

When I was injured by a stone-throwing 'youth' in his early twenties, I actually saw it coming. There were ten of, I was radio man for my officer so I happened to be at the front along side him.

There were appx. 800-1000 'youths' intifadaing their respective day away throwing molotov cocktails, rocks, using fucking giant slingshots to fire 5-foot metal spears at us.

Well, our officer decided to take the 'go-up-the-gut manuever' after we were fired upon.

We started a charge up the main street in Gaza City, through the market and I was first on the right column.

I saw some guy about 50 feet ahead of me closing fast.

I didn't really didn't think about much. Not too many people have the balls to get in the way of ten charging soldiers.

Well, this guy did.

He pulled a rock out and nailed me right in the mouth.

It hit me so hard, I remember 'hearing' it hit me. And that's about it.

I woke up in Barzilai Hospital in Ashkelon with wires in my mouth and no fucking teeth.

Doctor said I was lucky.

I am lucky.

Leesider.

FOAD.

And how did I know the 'youth' was in his early 20's?

The age his parents gave the IDF officers in the gaza district hospital to identify his corpse was 21.

#57 zulubaby 8/17/03 5:09:36 pm 0

AG in Houston (#56)

Chilling. Thank G-d you're still with us.

#58 Leesider 8/17/03 5:10:04 pm 0

#55

I think 19's answer is good and I will take it on board

Perhaphs in the same spirit you would tell me if I am an anti-semite in light of #48

#56

As someone on the ground you tell me your teeth are worth some other person's life?

#59 Yair 8/17/03 5:10:41 pm 0

AG,

Free beers for the soldier who took this punk out.

I hope your mouth is OK now and reconstructed.

Time for another contribution to the Libi fund.

#60 Yair 8/17/03 5:12:02 pm 0
Perhaphs in the same spirit you would tell me if I am an anti-semite in light of #48

I answered you. Read.

#61 AG in Houston 8/17/03 5:13:38 pm 0

Leesider

I don't think you get it.

He tried to take me out.

He failed and got taken out.

Why is it so difficult?

If he would have left well enough alone and let us by, he would be alive today to teach his kids about how evil Jews are.

Why do you have a blindspot when it comes to the life of a Jew?

#62 dhimmi smits 8/17/03 5:16:07 pm 0

they had better get used to having only a virtual palestine - there certainly isn't/wasn't an actual palestine (nor will there be god willing). they can have palestine of 1's and 0's - Israel can have the land.

#63 aaron 8/17/03 5:17:24 pm 0

OT: Reuters' main man in Hebron, Mazen Dana, was on assignment in Baghdad, when he popped out of his car and pointed a video camera at a US patrol.

That was a mistake.

He's dead.

The U.S. military acknowledged on Sunday that its troops had "engaged" a Reuters cameraman, saying they had thought his camera was a rocket propelled grenade launcher.


[Link: story.news.yahoo.com...]

As for virtualpalestine.org, here is the whois:

Domain Name.......... virtualpalestine.org
Creation Date........ 2001-06-18
Registration Date.... 2001-06-18
Expiry Date.......... 2004-06-18
Organisation Name.... Virtual Palestine
Organisation Address. 4/6 The Boulevarde
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. Lewisham
Organisation Address. 2049
Organisation Address. NSW
Organisation Address. AUSTRALIA

Admin Name........... Potts Monique
Admin Address........ 4/6 The Boulevarde
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ Lewisham
Admin Address........ 2049
Admin Address........ NSW
Admin Address........ AUSTRALIA
Admin Email.......... monique@cat.org.au
Admin Phone.......... 9569 1313
Admin Fax............ 9569 1313

Tech Name............ Potts Monique
Tech Address......... 4/6 The Boulevarde
Tech Address.........
Tech Address......... Lewisham
Tech Address......... 2049
Tech Address......... NSW
Tech Address......... AUSTRALIA
Tech Email........... monique@cat.org.au
Tech Phone........... 9569 1313
Tech Fax............. 9569 1313
Name Server.......... black.cat.org.au
Name Server.......... octo.hl.com.au

#64 Yair 8/17/03 5:18:06 pm 0
As someone on the ground you tell me your teeth are worth some other person's life?

Throwing rocks is intent to commit homicide. People die from it. You wanna throw rocks? Don't complain when a bullet goes up your ass.

#65 Leesider 8/17/03 5:18:36 pm -1

I've heard a lot about moral equivalency from the right, and much of it well founded.

Perhaps you could tell me the moral equivalency between a human's teeth and a human's life, per post #56 and #59?

Is it beers all round for someone's death?

Forgive me for being an 'idiotarian'.

#66 Yair 8/17/03 5:19:06 pm 0
they had better get used to having only a virtual palestine - there certainly isn't/wasn't an actual palestine (nor will there be god willing). they can have palestine of 1's and 0's - Israel can have the land.

Good point Dhimmi. They can jerk off in virtual land as much as they want.

#67 Yair 8/17/03 5:20:49 pm 0
Is it beers all round for someone's death?

It's beers all around for preventing any further attempted murder.

#68 zulubaby 8/17/03 5:22:09 pm 0

Leesider:

How's about you stop asking so many questions and start answering a few?

#69 militarybrat 8/17/03 5:22:37 pm 0

Leesider;

You act as though the teeth we're talking about were removed at your neighborhood dentists office under anesthesia.

Someone was trying to kill him. He didn't let them. Where is the moral issue in that? Do you blame the people who survived 9/11 for the deaths of the terrorist hijackers?

Perhaps you should experience the feeling of being on a front line with people hurling deadly objects and shouting hate and threats at you - then you might have a bit of a clue.

#70 Mar M 8/17/03 5:24:40 pm 1

Leesider,

By trying to smash a person in the face with a rock, the thrower is either trying to kill or main their target.

those who live by the sword die by the sword.

Have you ever heard of The Incredible Hulk Goes International? Read the Palestinian Hulk

L'INCROYABLE 'ULK: 'Ulk, he smash! 'Ulk, e smash puny golden arches! 'Ulk, e smash annoying bald man! 'Ulk hate Jews too! 'Ulk, e smash buildings of worship! 'Ulk stone busses of schoolchildren! 'Ulk not care. 'Ulk smash ALL enemies 'oo not 'ave refined culture like 'Ulk! 'Ulk smash you! Yes, you.... OWWWW! Zat 'urt! Assistance! Assistance!


PALESTINIAN HULK: Hulk smash old man in cafe! Hulk smash little girl in bed! Hulk smash all enemy's old people and children! What? Face enemy instead? You think Hulk stupid? Enemy strong. Enemy kick Hulk's sorry ass and make him eat own head scarf! But Hulk smart. Hulk have answer. Hulk push button on belt! See, work like this! Uh-oh...


RUSSIAN HULK: Hulk well remember days when he could smash you. Back then Hulk lay serious beating on you, believe you me. Ah, eternal tragedy of life. Share vodka shots with Hulk, we play chess and discuss this.


IRISH HULK: Never gets around to smashing. Too busy admiring beautiful green skin, and spending time at pubs. Works his way up to a temper occasionally, then beats self up and passes out.


AUSTRO-GERMAN HULK: Hear me now, believe me later, und recover next week! Hulk vill crush your pitiful head like tube of toothpaste, ja, und 4 out of five dentists vill not recommend you! (Remember ven Hulk say he smash you last? Hulk lied.) Hulk vill smash! Hulk vill crush! Hulk vill stomp all uber inferior enemies. Hulk, uhhh, Hulk be here before. Hulk do that. Hulk not enjoy later experiences. Hulk going back home now.


SAUDI HULK: Hulk smash evil seductresses in tight jeans! Hulk smash woman flight controllers! Hulk... (mmm, you cute - see harem director, third head-scarf from left). Now, where was Hulk... Oh! Hulk pay you to smash too! And you! And you! Hulk pay you to smash bad Jews. Here, more for bad Americans. Hulk not selfish, Hulk share rage! Everyone get mad like Hulk for Allah! Hey, Hulk not pay you to smash those. Uh-oh.


EURO HULK: Hulk smash! Hulk throw red tape! Hulk throw 15 volume regulation set for firing poor employees! (Bet that leave mark.) Hulk throw tantrum! Hulk throw big tantrum! Hulk really hurt you once Hulk pass required resolutions. Not laugh at Hulk! Bad people laugh at Hulk! Hulk smash. You see! No, really. Hulk mean it this time...


CANADIAN HULK: Hulk smash! Hulk crush puny American hockey teams! Hulk hip check puny enemies, then beat you like whole line of Hanson brothers! Hulk teach Americans to drink real beer! Oh, Hulk not mean to be impolite, eh. Did Hulk ever tell you about Canadian Constitutional Crisis?.... (5 hours later) Hey! Wake up! Not fall asleep on Hulk. Falling asleep make Hulk insulted. Make Hulk mad. Hulk smash! Hulk take over your comedy scene! Hulk flood your airwaves with Bryan Adams and Loverboy! Hulk send Celine Dion! Hulk throw in Mariah Carrey too! Hulk accept your total surrender any time now....

#71 Leesider 8/17/03 5:33:06 pm 0

#69

Why the hell are IDF soldiers put in the path of pali stone throwers? This is the kernal of the issue!

Get the troops out to defensible borders.
Yes!, build a wall around the west bank and gaza, and let the palis stew in their own juice.

In 48, 67, and 73 Israel was well able to stand against soviet backed agressors!

Now they can stand easily against weakened arab satrapsies, they should have nothing to fear from an insignificant arab state on the west bank and gaza.

Get real people!

#72 AG in Houston 8/17/03 5:36:00 pm