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1 Stanghazi  Wed, Jun 16, 2010 6:02:51pm

Wow. Great find/post.

2 windsagio  Wed, Jun 16, 2010 6:34:59pm

I guess they're gonna be using Muslims now like they used the Jews in the '30s.

3 Jon a brit in Euroland  Thu, Jun 17, 2010 3:18:24am

Not really sure that Wilders is appropriately described with the simple label "Fascist". There is a real issue in the increasing visibility of the failed immigration policies in many European countries. This has been raised by many politicians and writers very few of which merit the fascist label.

Theo Van Gogh and many other have suffered for their views, and free expression has also suffered as people are economical with the truth they see, often out of fear.

Wilders may not be the benign face of cuddly Europe, but he has always been, as far as I have read, very forthright about human rights, and a free press. He perceives political Islam, and non-political Islamism (the Burqa issue for example) as important. He has said that the rights of women are weakened by the Sharia vision, and this weakens the rights of all.

I think that one should be able to say that one disagrees with him without using labels. Unfortunately fascism was, and is, a reality in this world, and that using the word so "liberally" devalues the suffering of many.

4 Bloodnok  Thu, Jun 17, 2010 4:26:23am

re: #3 Jon a brit in Euroland

he has always been, as far as I have read, very forthright about human rights, and a free press

Um, he wants to ban the Koran.

5 Cheese Eating Victory Monkey  Thu, Jun 17, 2010 7:17:40am

Wasn't it Dr. Pipes who said that Islamism is the problem and that moderate Islam is the solution? I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

6 Jon a brit in Euroland  Thu, Jun 17, 2010 8:53:33am

re: #4 Bloodnok

Not that I have a mission to change anyone's view, but as I understand it, he is being hauled in front of the courts for alleged racism of some kind, in a private prosecution, and in his defence is comparing the Koran to Mein Kampf in its ideological content. It seems to me that either the prosecution should be dropped, or he should have his day in court to prove, with expert witnesses, his defence. (Mein Kampf is banned in Holland as in many other European countries).

It may not be convenient to apply the law, but if you are prosecuted I do believe that you have the right to a defence.

I suspect that Mr. Pipes is right (and not just on the political spectrum) when he implies that Islam has the same need of a reformation as the Christian Churches in those turbulent times which gave birth to freedom and human rights...


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