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1 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Jul 7, 2010 8:44:36am

You rock.

2 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Jul 7, 2010 2:23:09pm
By the way, if you think I'm talking about you, it's because I probably am. But the point is that these sorts of random insults flung at me and the women like me are not new to us --and will not stop us.

We are better than you and stronger than you, and you'll have to get used to that.

Consider this the first in a series on feminism and woman hating.

Yes. Note to all the little misogynistic monkeys out there: hating on strong women is not a good way of dealing with your own sense of inadequacy.

And when all you are doing is calling offensive names, you are just exposing that inadequacy for all to see.


3 McSpiff  Wed, Jul 7, 2010 7:02:55pm

Favorited. Great piece by one hell of a debater. Much love.

4 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Jul 7, 2010 7:26:16pm

re: #3 McSpiff

Favorited. Great piece by one hell of a debater. Much love.

re: #1 Jeff In Ohio

You rock.

Thanks, guys. Much love to you both. Big fan of both of you. :)

5 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Jul 7, 2010 7:26:49pm

Btw folks - I'm not in the habit of quoting shit from the cesspit, but I was told earlier tonight that the freaks over on the blogtrocity were posting unbelievably nasy stuff about ice. I went over and had a look and found this, from 'savage' :

Hey iceweasel, since I know you are reading this:

Not only are you a whore and a slut and a sorry excuse for a female, you need a big fat dick up your ass, preferably in a supermax facility.


This is what resulted from the disgusting behaviour of certain posters here last night - behaviour the cesspit dwellers were quite clearly delighted to see. Equally, I'm 100% sure the response at 2.0 will have pleased those posters no end.

Savage is of course just another wingnut with major inadequacy issues who can't handle the idea of an intelligent woman who is manifestly able and willing to put idiots like himself in their place. I gather from reports that he cuts a particularly sad and forlorn figure on his blog's 'radio show' ; I guess screaming obscene rants about ice makes the butthurt easier to deal with.

6 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Jul 8, 2010 8:56:24am

This is an excellent post. The biggest issue I believe is the anonymity of the web. It allows people to say things as hurtful as possible simply for the purpose of being hurtful. It is like 7th grade, but without the teachers to instill basic civility - or the sorts of kid who would simply punch a bully in the face.

My point here is that yes, the misogyny is real - however, this behavior, I believe usually, has more to do with flinging the most hurtful poo possible and getting away with it. The point for most of these assholes is just simply to cause hurt. They lost a debate, or were disagreed with, were faced with someone who was clearly more clever, a crude advance was rejected, or most importantly, they were not afforded the adulation they crave from being on an online community. They feel threatened or angry at that. They have, through anonymity, recourse to "hurt back" in vulgar and repugnant ways.

It is also the cliques of the 7th grade writ large. When a kid is ostracized, the most vile things are said. The goal is to cause pain and humiliation. Any difference from the group can then be singled out, magnified, and turned into a point of insult. Don't be a gay or brown person who dares to disagree with the views of a wing nut. The most hurtful slurs will soon follow. If you are a Jew, they will call you a Nazi - it is rather more difficult to be more hurtful and spiteful than that. Then the pack draws down for the hurtfest. Partially, I suppose they are happy that they themselves are not the target of the attacks and partly, they too know how hurtful the language is and want to revel in it.

In that sense, it is not about misogyny per se. Rather it is that the difference in the person being attacked is that she is a woman. Many of these cretins who fling such garbage are genuinely perplexed about the charges of sexism, not because what was said wasn't sexist and vile, but rather because they do not see themselves as trying to bash all women. They see themselves as trying to hurt, and degrade as much as possible, a particular woman. The fact that they chose her womanhood as the point of ridicule or that what they are saying does actually attack all women, is not something that registers to them.

Some of those posters may well be ill-mannered adolescents. Most though are much older, regressing to adolescence, and reveling in the "freedom" to be as mean as they always wanted to be. Along with it comes the entire little pack psychology of being "in" and "being out."

I think that there are many parallels here to mob psychology and mob behavior.

7 MarshallOnellion  Thu, Jul 8, 2010 10:25:09am

One easy way to separate the wheat from the chaff: use your own name and/or email address, or tell anyone who demands it. Refuse = can be ignored.

8 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jul 8, 2010 4:02:49pm

re: #7 MarshallOnellion

One easy way to separate the wheat from the chaff: use your own name and/or email address, or tell anyone who demands it. Refuse = can be ignored.

Yeah, it would really be a great idea for the haters to have my name and email address. Are you out of your mind?

9 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jul 8, 2010 7:10:09pm

You rock, Ice!
It's so funny to watch your smarts scare the tiny little men.

10 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:27:43pm

re: #7 MarshallOnellion

That would be more practical were it not for the rabid hate Ice gets directed at her.

11 BARACK THE VOTE  Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:32:36pm

re: #10 Dark_Falcon

That would be more practical were it not for the rabid hate Ice gets directed at her.

It's idiotic. He's proposing that I would get less hate if I blogged under my name or would freely offer it to those who just ask.

Way to miss the whole point of my post, idiot!

(not you df)

12 Varek Raith  Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:38:26pm

re: #7 MarshallOnellion

One easy way to separate the wheat from the chaff: use your own name and/or email address, or tell anyone who demands it. Refuse = can be ignored.

You first.
Jerk wagon.

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