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1 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jul 16, 2010 5:42:47pm

Wow. What a giant fail this is for right wing media and blogs.

Total fail. Unmitigated fail. It's a fail-a-ganza. A failocalypse.

2 Henchman 25  Fri, Jul 16, 2010 6:13:39pm

Shame this won't stop rubes like Fox from selling it as if it were some huge threat.

3 Vambo  Fri, Jul 16, 2010 6:25:32pm

re: #2 SteelPH

Shame this won't stop rubes like Fox from selling it as if it were some huge threat.

No, it won't stop them. Their "news" comes from an parallel dimension.

4 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jul 16, 2010 6:59:00pm

Another RINO!

5 ajai  Fri, Jul 16, 2010 8:29:38pm

The panthers didnt even show up to defend themselves and were guilty by default so to prove anything was not even required. Of course these are small potatoes but the refusal to proceed with the prosecution is a very big story because it addresses unequal application of the law. However you want to frame it most americans think that behaving like those guys in front of a polling station are committing a criminal act.

6 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 16, 2010 9:18:54pm

re: #5 ajai

The panthers didnt even show up to defend themselves and were guilty by default so to prove anything was not even required. Of course these are small potatoes but the refusal to proceed with the prosecution is a very big story because it addresses unequal application of the law. However you want to frame it most americans think that behaving like those guys in front of a polling station are committing a criminal act.

Fail. The facts are easy to find with a simple google search. You can start by reading the links I posted. Maybe you wingnuts should think up some better conspiracy theories.

7 ajai  Fri, Jul 16, 2010 10:44:10pm

#Trout

Fail? What facts are easy to find? I dont see it so why dont you say it. Whisteblower DOJ attorney J. Christian Adams tells a somewhat convincing story about this particular 'conspiracy' which would have no legs to stand on if these guys had been charged with something. I, like most Americans, dont like what I saw in the video. If you have alternative information to refute the apparent menacing behavior around voters at an election site then im open to it. Just because this charge is uncommon or that these guys are known clowns doesnt mean its not appropriate to convict them with a crime, especially if no defense was mounted, or that a lesser charge wouldnt be applied. If this was permitted behavior at all polling places we'd have chaos. Hence theres an opening for conspiracy stories. You didnt make a convincing case to refute the conspiracy nor did these links. Saying theres nothing to see here, just move along is not a valid argument. Calling names like wingnut to anyone who shares a reasonable opinion is unfair.

8 mardukhai  Sat, Jul 17, 2010 12:21:52am

Sorry, I was an intended victim of an arson attack committed by black racists, and I watched liberals cover it up and make it "go away" -- officially it never happened.

The pattern is disturbingly similar.

9 Obdicut  Sat, Jul 17, 2010 7:24:11am

re: #5 ajai

You know, the problem with a default judgement is that there's little thing in the US Justice system called "appeals". A default judgement isn't worth anything if you're certain the case would be overturned on appeal.

10 Obdicut  Sat, Jul 17, 2010 7:25:10am

re: #8 mardukhai

Two guys showing up to one polling place that had a vast majority of black voters, and not reportedly actually intimidating anyone, is similar to your alleged incident where a huge crowd of black people tried to burn you down how, exactly?

Because both incidents involve black people?

11 ajai  Sat, Jul 17, 2010 8:04:28am

re: #9 Obdicut
I've heard no evidence suggesting certainty it would be overturned upon appeal. Do you have any? J. Christian Adams certainly doesnt indicate that was part of the calculation.
I understand there is a major revulsion to the hyper-hype of FOX but I've not seen evidence to counterbalance the substance of the story. Are you guys suggesting this whistleblower is just a nutter and do you have evidence for that?

12 Obdicut  Sat, Jul 17, 2010 8:10:02am

re: #11 ajai

Yes. The reason they dropped the cases was they felt that they couldn't win them in an actual court battle.

Have you even read the article at the top of this page?

13 ajai  Sat, Jul 17, 2010 8:33:50am

re: #12 Obdicut

I read the article. It wasnt convincing and was just as much propoganda as FOX is. They only convicted 3 cases so they might as well never prosecute anyone unless its a really sexy case, talk about The Politics of No. There are other laws if this one was inappropriate. Its obvious from the video that the panthers were trying to intimidate-have you even watched it? If they are not punished and other groups learn that they can get away with behavior like this then our voting stations could become dangerous places.

14 Obdicut  Sat, Jul 17, 2010 8:52:28am

re: #13 ajai

So you're saying a well-respected, staunch conservative Republican apointee is putting out "propaganda". Why?

15 ajai  Sat, Jul 17, 2010 3:25:23pm

re: #14 Obdicut

Why does Fox news do it? For her own interests. She wants to sell books. She wants to emphasize her own concerns.

16 Flavia  Sat, Jul 17, 2010 11:42:49pm

re: #12 Obdicut

Yes. The reason they dropped the cases was they felt that they couldn't win them in an actual court battle.

Thanks for the clarification; this is very different than saying, "We don't believe anything wrong happened at all." I'm glad to hear that (well, sort of), because I listened to eye-witness accounts, & no, not from right-wingers.

17 Obdicut  Sun, Jul 18, 2010 12:21:08am

re: #15 ajai

So you'll dismiss anyone, no matter how credible and conservative, if they give an opinion on this you don't like.


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