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1 Vambo  Fri, Jul 23, 2010 10:47:23am

I know our government would be thrilled if these people just disappeared forever, but this is so nasty. Almost sadistic in its implications.

2 LudwigVanQuixote  Fri, Jul 23, 2010 10:51:55am

Let's not forget the Jaime Leigh Jones case.

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

Jamie Leigh Jones, now 22, says that after she was raped by multiple men at a KBR camp in the Green Zone, the company put her under guard in a shipping container with a bed and warned her that if she left Iraq for medical treatment, she'd be out of a job.

"Don't plan on working back in Iraq. There won't be a position here, and there won't be a position in Houston," Jones says she was told.

In a lawsuit filed in federal court against Halliburton and its then-subsidiary KBR, Jones says she was held in the shipping container for at least 24 hours without food or water by KBR, which posted armed security guards outside her door, who would not let her leave. Jones described the container as sparely furnished with a bed, table and lamp.

"It felt like prison," says Jones, who told her story to ABC News as part of an upcoming "20/20" investigation. "I was upset; I was curled up in a ball on the bed; I just could not believe what had happened."

Finally, Jones says, she convinced a sympathetic guard to loan her a cell phone so she could call her father in Texas.

"I said, 'Dad, I've been raped. I don't know what to do. I'm in this container, and I'm not able to leave,'" she said. Her father called their congressman, Rep. Ted Poe, R-Texas.

"We contacted the State Department first," Poe told ABCNews.com, "and told them of the urgency of rescuing an American citizen" -- from her American employer.

Poe says his office contacted the State Department, which quickly dispatched agents from the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad to Jones' camp, where they rescued her from the container.

According to her lawsuit, Jones was raped by "several attackers who first drugged her, then repeatedly raped and injured her, both physically and emotionally."

Jones told ABCNews.com that an examination by Army doctors showed she had been raped "both vaginally and anally," but that the rape kit disappeared after it was handed over to KBR security officers.

Jones found all manner of legal hassle in trying to sue Haliburton for imprisoning her in a cargo container and disposing of her rape kit to protect its employees after she was brutally gang raped. This was because of the fine print in her contract that would send even criminal cases to arbitrations of Haliburton's choosing.

Al Franken introduced an amendment to a spending bill that very simply and narrowly would prohibit companies that had such clauses getting federal contracts unless they removed such clauses.

[Link: www.minnpost.com...]

The bill passed, but nearly every Republican as in 39 out of 40 at the time voted against it. Their corporate masters are more important to them then the rights of raped women - even to the extent of locking those women in packing crates to silence them.

3 SpaceJesus  Fri, Jul 23, 2010 10:53:59am

re: #2 LudwigVanQuixote


yep, this also goes to employee rights as well. another thing conservative republicans don't believe in either.

4 LudwigVanQuixote  Fri, Jul 23, 2010 11:07:35am

re: #3 SpaceJesus

yep, this also goes to employee rights as well. another thing conservative republicans don't believe in either.

When one sees things like this, how anyone can imagine the Republicans are anything other than evil is beyond me.

5 Interesting Times  Fri, Jul 23, 2010 11:12:55am

re: #2 LudwigVanQuixote

Let's not forget the Jaime Leigh Jones case.

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

Al Franken introduced an amendment to a spending bill that very simply and narrowly would prohibit companies that had such clauses getting federal contracts unless they removed such clauses.

[Video][Link: www.minnpost.com...]

The bill passed, but nearly every Republican as in 39 out of 40 at the time voted against it. Their corporate masters are more important to them then the rights of raped women - even to the extent of locking those women in packing crates to silence them.

This satirical website* was created in response to that.

*And to anyone who objects to the site's name - those particular senators were (ahem) asking for it.

6 Kevin G  Fri, Jul 23, 2010 1:08:48pm
card-carrying members of the GOP

Not just that...the "Nay" list reads like a who's who of GOP leaders:

Bachman
Boehner
Cantor
Paul
Pence
Session

Just to name a few.

Has anyone heard or read any explanation from these bastions and protectors of public morality as to why they voted against this?

7 Sionainn  Fri, Jul 23, 2010 2:07:42pm

re: #6 Kevin G

Not just that...the "Nay" list reads like a who's who of GOP leaders:

Bachman
Boehner
Cantor
Paul
Pence
Session

Just to name a few.

Has anyone heard or read any explanation from these bastions and protectors of public morality as to why they voted against this?

I've sent a note to my local paper asking them to find out why Dean Heller voted no on this legislation as he doesn't provide an answer on his website.

8 Kevin G  Fri, Jul 23, 2010 3:41:22pm

re: #7 Sionainn

from the comments that folks are posting on Charles' posting of this article, the objections seem to be...

...this is necessary legislation, and
...it started out as a simple 10-page bill, but
...now it's a big complicated 100-page bill, which
...will add $1 billion to the deficit

do these sound familiar? Like their objections to every bill put forth by the Democrats this session?

9 V5  Fri, Jul 23, 2010 4:11:43pm

Just out of curiosity and fairness what else did the bill contain? Is there a remote possibility that this was only a small part of the entire bill? What if it had 20 billion worth of pork in it as well? Or something else conservatives are dead set against. We all know (or should) by now that very rarely does any bill make through the house and senate without a bunch of crap attached.

[See Kevin G's comment; #8]

Before we pull a Breitbart shouldn't we know ALL the facts first?

Just sayin'.

V5

10 Kevin G  Fri, Jul 23, 2010 5:36:22pm

re: #9 V5

Did a little research on opencongress.org about the bill in question and here's what I was able to discover.

On January 19 the House passed HR 725--the Indian Arts and Crafts Act of 2009 which was to expand the authority of the Indian Arts and Crafts Board to "bring criminal and civil actions for offenses under such Act involving the sale of misrepresented Indian-produced goods and products." Length of Bill at that point was about 1500-1700 words. No extra pork, etc.

On June 23, the Senate passed HR 725 with an amendment adding a "Tribal Law and Order" which is intended to help prevention and prosecution of crime on Tribal lands. It includes provision for greater cooperation between state, federal, and tribal authorities (sharing of information, the states/feds letting the tribal authorities know which cases they're going to prosecute and which they aren't, etc.), greater sentencing abilities for tribal authorities, etc. It specifically addresses domestic violence and drug abuse. Length of bill at passage: around 18,000 words. Big jump. But...as near as I can tell by a quick perusal of the text of the amended bill, there is NO extra stuff in it. It's only about what it says it's about. If you read it more carefully and find I'm wrong, please correct me.

On Wednesday, the House voted to suspend the rules to accept the Senate's amended version of HR 725.

So, I'm still not quite sure why the objections apart from those to which we've become accustomed.

11 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 23, 2010 5:41:01pm

re: #10 Kevin G

Good digging, and welcome. Unfortunately, your timing is off--most people won't catch your comment unless they are using "Spy". The thread (+ 1 hour between postings) is just about dead. If you watch the newer threads, it is likely the subject will come up again and can be linked.

12 Kevin G  Fri, Jul 23, 2010 5:42:38pm

re: #11 Decatur Deb

Thanks for the assist! I'll get my feet under me and figure out the workings hereabouts!

13 SpaceJesus  Fri, Jul 23, 2010 6:11:08pm

re: #10 Kevin G


yup, i said pretty much the same thing in the main thread charles made.

there's no real reason to vote nay on this. at all.


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