Back when the stalkers loved AGW and the psychology of morons
Here are some excerpts from the founder of the main stalker blog.
Some context: this is back when many of them were angry at Charles for defending evolution. At that time, Charles (meaning no offence to our gracious host) had not yet learned the science of AGW and trusted news sources that lied to him. He was a little skeptical then - like he always is. He never came out and said, even then, that AGW was bunk, and it is to his eternal credit, that he educated himself on the science, and followed the actual evidence. Since Charles is an educated and intelligent person who is capable of thinking for himself, he now firmly supports the science of AGW.The particular poster is very angry at a perceived attack on religion because LGF took a very firm line against Creationists.
But, this is also about the psychology of winguts who like to dress their ignorance up, claim false legitimacy, and call themselves “skeptics.” The point is not about knowing science, it is about hating perceived liberals. In this case, the opposite happened. The point was not about knowing science, it was about hating Charles, and then he was perceived as a skeptic. So let’s look at what is said:
This entry was posted on Friday, June 20th, 2008 at 2:37 am and is filed under LGF.
On the one hand Charles loves to belittle the Global Warming theory which apparently a good number of scientists are supporting. Charles is so good at science that he can disregard the rantings of a majority of scientists. He is against GW theory only because it is a talking point of the left. Because of his blinding hatred of the left he comes out against GW theory, which is just as ’scientific’ as the evolution theory. But Charles will put down and denigrate anyone who has faith in the Master of the Universe. His hatred is blinding him, and it will be his downfall.
The poster goes on to insult Charles in a disgusting and vitriolic manner.
But do you see what happened here? For a moment, hatred of Charles meant that AGW was true and it won out over hatred of Al Gore and trust in Fox and Rush et al.
He means it too and even supplies some good links!
From the UNION OF CONCERNED SCIENTISTS:
“The overwhelming majority of scientific experts, whilst recognizing that scientific uncertainties exist, nonetheless believe that human-induced climate change is already occurring and that future change is inevitable.”
Lets see what other ’scientists’ are saying:
From the science daily website -
“Expect More Droughts, Heavy Downpours, Excessive Heat, And Intense Hurricanes Due To Global Warming, NOAA”
But now of course, the stalkers have what they have been fed by Fox news and oil shills for several years, and they know that Charles knows the actual science.
So of course they rant like gibbons about AGW creating a new world order, conspiracy theories and distorted bizarre pseudo science.
It was never about science for them. How could it be? In general, they could not manage high-school algebra. It was about simply hating whomever they were told to hate or hated already.
I made a post about it, because what is of interest here, is that Charles of course, looked into the actual science, saw the evidence, and made a determination that the science is sound, after he educated himself. This really is to his eternal credit.
The stalkers, and the right wing in general, on the other hand, “decide” scientific validity based on who they think is popular, who they hate and what has been whispered.
Very scientific that… Educated people know that science is not a beauty pageant.
This dovetails exactly into the major problem that professional scientists like me face when trying to deal with skeptics. It is hard enough to teach science to someone who wants to learn. It is impossible to teach it to people who think you are a “socialist, communist, tranzi progressive.”
The fossil fuel industry, their shills and pet politicians bank on this.
Well stalkers, your founder believed in AGW once upon a time, and since then, the science has only gotten more firm. I’m sure they don’t care though. But I will bet, that if Obama came out against AGW and Rush came out for it (which he would instantly), and then Palin will remember that cap and trade was a Reagan idea (that she ran on!) they would all suddenly go green.
I wonder if they will disappear the post on their blog.
Note: the links supplied by the stalker, are good links, and they have been updated by their host sites many times since his post was made.