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1 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Oct 2, 2010 6:24:07pm

I read the transcript to my wife.

Her response was, "My fucking brain hurts."

I wholeheartedly concur.

Off to the bathroom for some Excedrin™.

2 SteelGHAZI  Sat, Oct 2, 2010 6:35:02pm

I think I just lost a couple of IQ points to this.

3 nines09  Sat, Oct 2, 2010 6:39:37pm

Hello. My name is Glenn and I am a pinhead. "Hello Pinhead."
Slavery was ruined by government intervention.
Does he come up with this stuff on the crapper?

4 Lidane  Sat, Oct 2, 2010 6:40:08pm

re: #2 SteelPH

I think I just lost a couple of IQ points to this.

That's true for everything Glenn Beck says.

As mind-numbingly stupid as his statements here are, the worst part is that there are people who sincerely, truly believe the shit he's selling. That just blows my mind.

5 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 2, 2010 7:05:46pm

What a crock. Hey Glenn, try Volume 1 of America: the Last, Best Hope by William Bennett for some actual information about slavery. He's a sane conservative. Sanity is fun, Glenn, you should try it.

6 b_snark  Sat, Oct 2, 2010 7:13:52pm

I don't think Glennie was talking about the colonial slavery that ended in the US in 1865. IMHO it was a (transparently) veiled reference to what many see as the start of statism in the US.

The problem for Gennie, is that despite his pseudo-familiarity with the stories in the Bible, he really doesn't know how to construct an allegory.

7 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 2, 2010 7:17:51pm

re: #6 b_sharp

I don't think Glennie was talking about the colonial slavery that ended in the US in 1865. IMHO it was a (transparently) veiled reference to what many see as the start of statism in the US.

The problem for Gennie, is that despite his pseudo-familiarity with the stories in the Bible, he really doesn't know how to construct an allegory.

Agreed.

8 b_snark  Sat, Oct 2, 2010 7:21:21pm

re: #7 Dark_Falcon

Agreed.

See D_F, there are times even I make sense.

9 Lidane  Sat, Oct 2, 2010 8:14:01pm

re: #6 b_sharp

So in other words, he's either a historical revisionist douchebag if he's talking about colonial slavery, or he's an insensitive asshole who fails both at life and at constructing an allegory.

Nah. I think he's just out there saying the most idiotic/offensive things he can to get ratings, and he knows his listeners will eat this garbage up. That's the real tragedy here-- people believe him when he says nonsense like this. They think he's telling the truth, when it's blatant bullshit.

10 Timmeh  Sat, Oct 2, 2010 8:17:02pm

re: #6 b_sharp

I don't think Glennie was talking about the colonial slavery that ended in the US in 1865. IMHO it was a (transparently) veiled reference to what many see as the start of statism in the US.

The problem for Gennie, is that despite his pseudo-familiarity with the stories in the Bible, he really doesn't know how to construct an allegory.

I think he's conflating the this fantasy of his that government regulation will lead to slavery and totalitarianism with actual chattel slavery. He does say:

That's how slavery began. And it took a long time to enslave an entire race of people, and to convince another race of people that they were somehow or another less than them.

11 b_snark  Sat, Oct 2, 2010 8:17:40pm

re: #9 Lidane

So in other words, he's either a historical revisionist douchebag if he's talking about colonial slavery, or he's an insensitive asshole who fails both at life and at constructing an allegory.

Nah. I think he's just out there saying the most idiotic/offensive things he can to get ratings, and he knows his listeners will eat this garbage up. That's the real tragedy here-- people believe him when he says nonsense like this. They think he's telling the truth, when it's blatant bullshit.

He's an idiot asshole who knows what his sycophantic acolytes want to hear.

12 Lidane  Sat, Oct 2, 2010 8:19:02pm

re: #11 b_sharp

He's an idiot asshole who knows what his sycophantic acolytes want to hear.

That works too. And sadly, people are just dumb enough to believe him. =P

13 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 2, 2010 8:36:49pm

re: #11 b_sharp

He's an idiot asshole who knows what his sycophantic acolytes want to hear.

He plays to his audience too well to be an actual idiot.

14 Michael Orion Powell  Sun, Oct 3, 2010 12:35:21pm

This is epically bizarre stuff. It's hard to even know where to begin because it isn't even evident where Beck is coming from here or where he is going. I guess he is trying to argue that slavery was a form of socialism and that that is where we're headed under Obama? It makes my head hurt just like it hurts Romantic Heretic's wife's head.

As for the world of reality, slavery is an institution that has existed in most societies as far back as history goes. While black slaves were being imported into the West, Arabs were taking slaves from the European coast. As a Christian, Beck should know how old slavery is just by opening up Exodus. It was the Enlightenment principles that America was founded on (and that had their own popularity in Europe) that made slavery finally debatable and not an accepted aspect of humanity.

15 SpaceJesus  Sun, Oct 3, 2010 2:57:28pm

slavery is and always was an outgrowth of greed from capitalism

16 Timmeh  Sun, Oct 3, 2010 3:36:34pm

re: #15 SpaceJesus

slavery is and always was an outgrowth of greed from capitalism


Slavery existed long before capitalism.

17 Lidane  Sun, Oct 3, 2010 4:53:54pm

re: #15 SpaceJesus

Greed? Yes. Capitalism? Not so much. Slavery has existed in one form or another since we were cavemen. It's how ancient civilizations grew and developed, after all.

18 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Oct 4, 2010 1:37:02am

re: #15 SpaceJesus

slavery is and always was an outgrowth of greed from capitalism

Are you serious? If this were true, the ultra-capitalistic Northern U.S. would have embraced slavery before the Civil War, rather than seeking to abolish it.
George Fitzhugh (1806-1881), SOCIOLOGY FOR THE SOUTH (1854):

One of the wildest sects of Communists in France proposes not only to hold all property in common, but to divide the profits, not according to each man’s input and labor, but according to each man’s wants. Now this is precisely the system of domestic slavery with us. We provide for each slave, in old age and in infancy, in sickness and in health, not according to his labor, but according to his wants. The master’s wants are more costly and refined, and he therefore gets a larger share of the profits. A Southern farm is the beau ideal of Communism; it is a joint concern, in which the slave consumes more than the master, of the coarse products, and is far happier, because although the concern may fail, he is always sure of a support; he is only transferred to another master to participate in the profits of another concern; he marries when he pleases, because he knows he will have to work no more with a family than without one, and whether he live or die, that family will be taken care of; he exhibits all the pride of ownership, despises a partner in a smaller concern, "a poor man’s negro," boasts of "our crops, horses, fields and cattle;" and is as happy as a human being can be.

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