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1 SpaceJesus  Mon, Oct 11, 2010 6:22:27pm

A non-apology aimed at one group of people at the expense of risking offending another group of people. Brilliant.

2 Taqyia2Me  Mon, Oct 11, 2010 6:42:44pm

re: #1 SpaceJesus

Hey! Maybe this guy is a politician’s politician after all!

3 alexknyc  Mon, Oct 11, 2010 7:39:20pm

And, unbelievably, he’s STILL going to get about 40% of the vote in November.

4 SpaceJesus  Mon, Oct 11, 2010 8:00:02pm

re: #3 alexknyc

not if the jewish conspiracy has anything to say about it

5 ClaudeMonet  Mon, Oct 11, 2010 9:57:50pm

Throwing your hosts under the bus. You really are old, hard-line Catholic, aren’t you? Well, except in your personal affairs.

Dumb, Carl, really dumb.

6 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Oct 12, 2010 12:44:11am

re: #3 alexknyc

And, unbelievably, he’s STILL going to get about 40% of the vote in November.

40% of NY is stupid, it’s true

7 suchislife  Tue, Oct 12, 2010 7:18:44am

This article clarifies it a bit

8 philosophus invidius  Tue, Oct 12, 2010 11:51:50am

re: #7 suchislife

This article clarifies it a bit


It says:

“I did not write the second speech,” Mr. Levin said. “However, I did have some input into it — and I stand ready to defend the content of it.”

On Monday, Mr. Paladino said that the two speeches he had made in Brooklyn on Sunday were prepared by someone else, and that he had stricken out some ideas with which he did not agree. In the interview, Mr. Levin [the Rabbi] said he had written one of the speeches and contributed to the second, in which Mr. Paladino warned against brainwashing children into accepting homosexuality.

“It’s not my fault, I let someone I don’t know write my speeches for me.”


9 SpaceJesus  Tue, Oct 12, 2010 12:17:32pm

re: #8 philosophus invidius

the content of his speech is discriminatory against gays. however, he comes out afterward and says he isn’t discriminatory against gays at all. next, he goes on the record saying he is willing to stand by the discriminatory things he said and defend them.

i don’t really understand what the hell this guys malfunction is. oh wait, he’s a conservative politician.

10 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 13, 2010 1:39:50pm

He’s playing games, which is what politicians do. He claims that his host, Yehuda Levin wrote in the most offensive bits that he didn’t actually say in his speech, but it’s not like the rest of the speech was warm and fuzzy for gays and lesbians. The rest of the speech - the parts he actually said - not just the prewritten bit - was offensive enough.

So, he goes out and apologizes (in the usual I apologize if you feel you’ve been offended kind of way), and throws Levin and his hosts under the bus, claiming they were at fault for the mess. Levin is predictably giving Paladino hell for running away from the issue (which is something that Democrats like Reuben Diaz to Paladino can agree on), but Paladino must be calculating that he’s going to win votes for his anti-gay stance from religious conservatives - whether they’re Jewish or Catholic. He’s hoping to make Catholics reconsider voting from Cuomo since Cuomo’s stance isn’t in line with the Church.

That’s the thinking at least.

I see it as pandering in the worst way, and given that the state’s biggest problems aren’t gay rights but a monstrous budget deficit, this is off message and even down-party GOP candidates are starting to grumble.

Democrats might turn out in greater than expected numbers, not because they have any love of Cuomo but to make sure that Paladino doesn’t win. And that could affect the downstream races in a state where GOPers are outnumbered 2-1 by Democrats.

11 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 13, 2010 1:40:58pm

re: #8 philosophus invidius

Paladino knew quite well who was writing his speech. He thought enough about what was written to cut out a few bits - but didn’t seem to have a problem with the rest of it, which was offensive enough.

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