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1 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 12, 2010 8:41:44pm

Robert Pape - Ron Paul's new FP Advisor - NEOCON WARS scene

Pape is a douche. I'm not buying it.

2 ClaudeMonet  Tue, Oct 12, 2010 11:05:11pm

It's interesting how the Navy always assumes they're the "point guy" in foreign policy.

3 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Oct 13, 2010 1:00:48am
That’s the conclusion of his new book, Cutting The Fuse, which finds that keeping ground and tactical air forces in insurgent-contested countries motivated 87 percent of documented suicide attacks since 2004. (You can check his work in an online database he established.)

His database includes Iraq and Afghanistan, where there is open warfare in progress. Our troops are in those countries because they were "insurgent contested," or run by forces who had attacked the US directly (in the case of Afghanistan), and not the other way around. In neither case did the presence of US troops create the hostile forces. Saddam Hussein and the Taliban were there in their respective hellholes, and in charge, well before our troops arrived. As for Saudi Arabia, Pape seems to legitimize the Al Qaeda opposition to the royalist regime and accept at face value its claim that the presence of US troops on that sacred soild is the cause of their attacks. The average Paulian moron is unlikely to know, of course, that US troops have been stationed in Saudi Arabia since just after World War 2. Where was AQ then?
The Paulians advocate surrender to the fascist forces because they are in sympathy with them, and nothing else.

4 Michael Orion Powell  Wed, Oct 13, 2010 1:40:13am

Wow. That thesis is actually fairly brilliant.

5 freetoken  Wed, Oct 13, 2010 1:46:32am

re: #4 OrionXP

Ackerman's article is ok. Yet as KT points out the progenitor of some of the ideas, Pape, can be somewhat on the fringe.

6 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Oct 13, 2010 9:03:07am

re: #5 freetoken

Ackerman's article is ok. Yet as KT points out the progenitor of some of the ideas, Pape, can be somewhat on the fringe.

So the ideas are only welcome from someone else? Now I am curious as to if the database is good. (links in the Wired article)


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