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1 Buck  Oct 22, 2010 11:53:04am

the digital lynching continues….

I am shocked that everyone doesn’t see the “Shirley Sherrod” parallel.

2 wrenchwench  Oct 22, 2010 11:59:29am

re: #1 Buck

the digital lynching continues…

I am shocked that everyone doesn’t see the “Shirley Sherrod” parallel.

It is not parallel.

Shirley Sherrod explained how she grew from a person who thought white people didn’t need her help to a person who realized white people don’t always “take care of their own” and sometimes they did need her help. She was then smeared by the lying A. Breitbart, mistakenly fired and chastised by the NAACP.

Juan Williams said he’s afraid to fly with people who dress like Muslims who aren’t in the closet about their religion. He was unmistakenly fired (actually a contract was deemed broken) and he went on to a multi-million dollar contract with his other employer.

What do you see as the parallel?

3 Mark Pennington  Oct 22, 2010 12:35:26pm

re: #1 Buck

the digital lynching continues…

I am shocked that everyone doesn’t see the “Shirley Sherrod” parallel.

I think wrenchwench summed it up really well. (as usual.)

It’s funny that just a little while ago a guy was fired from his position as a voice actor on Geico because of a phone call he made to FreedomWorks- and we were told by the Right that this was perfectly acceptable behavior.

Now, however, the situation’s pretty much reversed, and it’s suddenly an attack on Free Speech.

Funny how that works.

4 Monkeyboy  Oct 22, 2010 1:42:19pm

re: #3 beekiller

The difference I see is that Juan intended no malice.
Geico Guy, did.

5 Mark Pennington  Oct 22, 2010 2:07:57pm

re: #4 JustaDummy

The difference I see is that Juan intended no malice.
Geico Guy, did.

Bullshit.

The Geico voice actor said something that many(including myself) agree with but Geico didn’t want to be associated with him so they terminated him. I support their right to do so.

Juan said something that many agreed with(you) but NPR didn’t want to be associated with him so they terminated him. I support their right to do so.

Personally, I think this planned well in advance and his new contract as well so none of this really matters anymore. The outrageous outrage will not work as it did with ACORN. They should have waited at least a week to offer him the better paying job.

6 Mark Pennington  Oct 22, 2010 3:29:01pm

“Look, Bill, I’m not a bigot. You know the kind of books I’ve written about the civil rights movement in this country. But when I see a black guy with his pants halfway down and his bling and I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Black, I get worried. I get nervous.”

If a white commentator had said this he would have been fired and Juan would have been the first one to condemn him.

7 Michael Orion Powell  Oct 22, 2010 6:44:16pm

re: #2 wrenchwench

re: #2 wrenchwench

It is not parallel.

Shirley Sherrod explained how she grew from a person who thought white people didn’t need her help to a person who realized white people don’t always “take care of their own” and sometimes they did need her help. She was then smeared by the lying A. Breitbart, mistakenly fired and chastised by the NAACP.

Juan Williams said he’s afraid to fly with people who dress like Muslims who aren’t in the closet about their religion. He was unmistakenly fired (actually a contract was deemed broken) and he went on to a multi-million dollar contract with his other employer.

What do you see as the parallel?

Exactly. Sherrod was screwed by that situation. Juan Williams is actually benefiting quite well. He’s the hot topic on Fox and Bill O’Reilly is about to do an “exclusive interview” with him. He just got $2 million in the bank. Fox benefits by having an African American ex-progressive (?) among their otherwise fairly uniform team. Everybody wins.

8 Buck  Oct 22, 2010 7:42:16pm

If you only quote the one part, and none of the rest of what he said, then you have a perfect example of selective quoting to make someone seem bad.

Yep, I see a real “Shirley Sherrod” parallel. Of course it was not word for word the same… but very similar.

9 Buck  Oct 22, 2010 9:56:32pm

The quote is way out of context, much in the same way Shirley Sherrod’s was.

For example, a few seconds after saying the comment repeated over and over, Williams challenges O’Reilly’s suggestion that “the Muslims attacked us on 9/11.” Williams points out how wrong it would be to generalize similarly about Christians:


Hold on, because if you said Timothy McVeigh, the Atlanta bomber, these people who are protesting against homosexuality at military funerals—very obnoxious—you don’t say first and foremost, “We got a problem with Christians.” That’s crazy.

A little bit later in the video, if watched in it’s entirety, O’Reilly asks:

“Juan, who is posing a problem in Germany? Is it the Muslims who have come there, or the Germans?”

Williams reply, much to his credit:

“See, you did it again, It’s extremists.”


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