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1 Gus  Sun, Nov 21, 2010 10:06:24pm

WTF? What a load of crap.

2 Bob Dillon  Sun, Nov 21, 2010 10:09:53pm

re: #1 Gus 802

Do the math Gus. Numbers do not lie unless you are doing statistics.

3 Lidane  Sun, Nov 21, 2010 10:13:24pm

LOL forever. What a steaming pile of bullshit.

4 Gus  Sun, Nov 21, 2010 10:14:06pm

re: #2 Bobibutu

Do the math Gus. Numbers do not lie unless you are doing statistics.

Sorry, no more booze in the house to make the numbers add up. This is a deep load of Libtard bullshit.

5 Gus  Sun, Nov 21, 2010 10:32:02pm

Some bullshit from this bullshit article:

I have left out the mother of all welfare programs — Supplemental Security Income (SSI). SSI pays $8,088 per year for each “disabled” family member. A person can be deemed “disabled” if they are totally lacking in the cultural and educational skills needed to be employable in the workforce.

What a load of shit.

6 Mark Winter  Sun, Nov 21, 2010 10:35:15pm

So a poor family of three gets US 16000 a year from the gov. just for healthcare?

8 Gus  Sun, Nov 21, 2010 10:41:23pm

More bullcrap:

Most private workplaces require drug testing, but there is no drug testing to get welfare checks.

9 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 21, 2010 10:42:10pm

re: #2 Bobibutu

Those numbers seem to assume Health care expenditures when such might not be necessarily be incurred. Thus those figures seem contrived to me.

10 Bob Dillon  Sun, Nov 21, 2010 11:08:49pm

re: #9 Dark_Falcon

Granted. The potential is still there tho.


Online Information About Key Low-Income Benefit Programs
Links to Policy Manuals, Descriptive Information, and Applications for State Food Stamp, TANF, Child Care, Medicaid, and SCHIP Programs

11 Mark Winter  Sun, Nov 21, 2010 11:18:24pm

re: #10 Bobibutu

You don't feed your family with potentials

12 Bob Dillon  Sun, Nov 21, 2010 11:23:52pm

re: #11 Mark Winter

The item DF referred to was health care benefits. Food stamps are not potential. Altho some seem to have been spent in casinos recently.

13 Mark Winter  Sun, Nov 21, 2010 11:27:17pm

I don't envy anyone who needs food stamps

14 Bob Dillon  Sun, Nov 21, 2010 11:30:00pm

re: #13 Mark Winter

Nor do I. There are many who depend on them including seniors.

15 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Sun, Nov 21, 2010 11:30:05pm

This reminds me of this article about producerism.

Calls to rally the virtuous "producing classes" against evil "parasites" at both the top and bottom of society is a tendency called producerism. It is a conspiracist narrative used by repressive right wing populism. Today we see examples of it in some sectors of the Christian Right, in the Patriot movements and armed militias, and in the Far right. (see chart of US right). Producerism is involved in the relationship between Buchanan, Fulani, Perot, and the Reform Party.

Producerism begins in the US with the Jacksonians, who wove together intra-elite factionalism and lower-class Whites’ double-edged resentments. Producerism became a staple of repressive populist ideology. Producerism sought to rally the middle strata together with certain sections of the elite. Specifically, it championed the so-called producing classes (including White farmers, laborers, artisans, slaveowning planters, and “productive” capitalists) against “unproductive” bankers, speculators, and monopolists above—and people of color below. After the Jacksonian era, producerism was a central tenet of the anti-Chinese crusade in the late nineteenth century. In the 1920s industrial philosophy of Henry Ford, and Father Coughlin’s fascist doctrine in the 1930s, producerism fused with antisemitic attacks against “parasitic” Jews.

Read the rest Here

16 Mark Winter  Sun, Nov 21, 2010 11:35:18pm

re: #14 Bobibutu

If you are serious then check your numbers.
Those potential $16000 for Medicaid is definitely no income

17 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 22, 2010 2:21:19am

re: #16 Mark Winter

The one point this article makes is that health care costs are insane and can totally sink a middle class family.

Has nothing to do with disposable income, of course.

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