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Fox News Extremist X-mas Message: No Moral Obligation to Feed the Starving

By Killgore Trout

Wingnuts • November 2010 • Views: 2,200

No, I’m not exaggerating.
“How Is It That Someone’s Starvation Places A Moral Claim On My Wealth?”
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33 comments

Dancing along the light of day Sun, Nov 28, 2010 9:41:11pm

"Hard work, Being rational, Ayn Rand is the essence of morality about learning how to take care of yourself." "It's a good thing to be selfish."
And then he starts in on "The Government".
LOL!
There is a small role for private charity.
I'd REALLY rather watch bad '50's Sci-Fi movies.

freetoken Sun, Nov 28, 2010 9:44:30pm

re: #1 Floral Giraffe

I'd REALLY rather watch bad '50's Sci-Fi movies.

There is sort of a Plan 9 essence about Napolitano on Fox.

Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 28, 2010 9:50:23pm

re: #1 Floral Giraffe

It really is the most morally perverse things I've heard in a very long time. Even Al Qaeda and Hamas consider helping the poor and charity an integral part of their moral obligation. I know the word evil is thrown around a lot but this kind of thinking being promoted on Fox really is evil.

freetoken Sun, Nov 28, 2010 9:54:57pm

re: #3 Killgore Trout

What's really weird is that you can go to one of Salem Communications (owners of Townhall, Hot Air, etc.) Christianity forums and find plenty of praise for Rand and her books. The pew-warmers seem unaware that Ayn Rand's ideas are in part a (self-aware) version of anti-Christianity.

Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 28, 2010 10:04:51pm

re: #4 freetoken

What's really weird is that you can go to one of Salem Communications (owners of Townhall, Hot Air, etc.) Christianity forums and find plenty of praise for Rand and her books. The pew-warmers seem unaware that Ayn Rand's ideas are in part a (self-aware) version of anti-Christianity.

The more I think about it the more absurd it gets. Helping others is part of the social contract that makes any society function. If Napolitano gets in a car accident people will stop and help him. It's just human nature. If everybody acted only when it would benefit themselves society would soon collapse.

Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, Nov 28, 2010 10:24:08pm

re: #3 Killgore Trout

As I have written many times, this is absolutely defined as evil by Judaism. To be specific, this is the way of Sodom at best and out and out wickedness at worst.

Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 28, 2010 11:07:19pm

Meanwhile radical leftists at CNN are promoting this:Stranger saves Christmas for woman whose gifts were stolen

Michael Orion Powell Sun, Nov 28, 2010 11:14:16pm

"The Case Against Altruism."

It looks like Ayn Rand finally has her own TV network.

Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, Nov 28, 2010 11:17:56pm

re: #7 Killgore Trout

Meanwhile radical leftists at CNN are promoting this:Stranger saves Christmas for woman whose gifts were stolen

Yeah. Jesus was a hippie, what with all those time he fed hungry people for free, and healed people who were sick - even thought they didn't have insurance - and for free... and then all those times he said people like these on Fox were going to hell...

Go figure.

Long hair hippie I say.

Michael Orion Powell Sun, Nov 28, 2010 11:23:30pm

By the way, I recommend everyone here read Ayn Rand: Goddess of the Market by Jennifer Burns. It's a serious unbiased book that was written with access to files from ARI. It should cure anyone who has become an Objectivist after reading some of her books.

Rand had an affair with a follower and then had her husband and the wife come in and commit to the affair. Her husband was submissive to her judgmental madness for literally decades. Until the day she died, she was unwilling to listen to anyone else. She never inquired as to why her sister felt more love for her home in Russia than the United States. She instead shut her sister out because of philosophical agreements.

Everyone does weird stuff in their lives, but Rand never seemed to arrive at the light of self awareness that most people do as they grow up and passionately used big words haphazardly to justify a philosophy of immaturity.

SpaceJesus Sun, Nov 28, 2010 11:28:54pm

"yo mowal wirtchoo"

Lidane Sun, Nov 28, 2010 11:30:43pm

re: #10 OrionXP

Rand had an affair with a follower and then had her husband and the wife come in and commit to the affair.

Nathaniel Branden was much more than just a follower of Ayn Rand. Up until their affair ended, she considered him her intellectual heir and soulmate. She even named a minor character in Atlas Shrugged after him:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Lidane Sun, Nov 28, 2010 11:37:34pm

re: #4 freetoken

What's really weird is that you can go to one of Salem Communications (owners of Townhall, Hot Air, etc.) Christianity forums and find plenty of praise for Rand and her books. The pew-warmers seem unaware that Ayn Rand's ideas are in part a (self-aware) version of anti-Christianity.

The only explanation for that is that those idiots haven't actually read any of Ayn Rand's books or essays. She was virulently anti-religion in all its forms. Hell, at one point she even calls Christianity, "the best kindergarten of communism possible."

You can't consider yourself religious and a serious follower of Ayn Rand's writings. It's not possible.

Michael Orion Powell Sun, Nov 28, 2010 11:46:02pm

re: #12 Lidane

Nathaniel Branden was much more than just a follower of Ayn Rand. Up until their affair ended, she considered him her intellectual heir and soulmate. She even named a minor character in Atlas Shrugged after him:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Yup, that legacy went to Leonard Peikoff, if I remember the name correctly.

Michael Orion Powell Sun, Nov 28, 2010 11:51:05pm

re: #13 Lidane

The only explanation for that is that those idiots haven't actually read any of Ayn Rand's books or essays. She was virulently anti-religion in all its forms. Hell, at one point she even calls Christianity, "the best kindergarten of communism possible."

You can't consider yourself religious and a serious follower of Ayn Rand's writings. It's not possible.

Conservatism now lacks the intellectuals that were able to critique Ayn Rand with veracity, as Whittaker Chambers did. He detected the "whiff of Hitlerism" in Rand's writings. With that knowledge, it should be no surprise that Rand's popularity and influence rise in tandem with a rise in racist hate groups.

Obdicut Mon, Nov 29, 2010 2:27:52am

For anyone who's interested, this is a great site for criticism of Ayn Rand:

[Link: aynrandcontrahumannature.blogspot.com...]

Really well-done deconstructions of why her philosophy fails to be consistent in any way, and why it fails to mesh with human nature in the least.

Henchman 25 Mon, Nov 29, 2010 3:06:32am

What a monster.

Our Precious Bodily Fluids Mon, Nov 29, 2010 4:33:36am

They were portly gentlemen, pleasant to behold, and now stood, with their hats off, in Scrooge's office. They had books and papers in their hands, and bowed to him.

"Scrooge and Marley's, I believe," said one of the gentlemen, referring to his list. "Have I the pleasure of addressing Mr. Scrooge, or Mr. Marley?"

"Mr. Marley has been dead these seven years," Scrooge replied. "He died seven years ago, this very night."

"We have no doubt his liberality is well represented by his surviving partner," said the gentleman, presenting his credentials.

It certainly was; for they had been two kindred spirits. At the ominous word "liberality," Scrooge frowned, and shook his head, and handed the credentials back.

"At this festive season of the year, Mr. Scrooge," said the gentleman, taking up a pen, "it is more than usually desirable that we should make some slight provision for the Poor and Destitute, who suffer greatly at the present time. Many thousands are in want of common necessaries; hundreds of thousands are in want of common comforts, sir."

"Are there no prisons?" asked Scrooge.

"Plenty of prisons," said the gentleman, laying down the pen again.

"And the Union workhouses?" demanded Scrooge. "Are they still in operation?"

"They are. Still," returned the gentleman, "I wish I could say they were not."

"The Treadmill and the Poor Law are in full vigour, then?" said Scrooge.

"Both very busy, sir."

"Oh! I was afraid, from what you said at first, that something had occurred to stop them in their useful course," said Scrooge. "I'm very glad to hear it."

"Under the impression that they scarcely furnish Christian cheer of mind or body to the multitude," returned the gentleman, "a few of us are endeavouring to raise a fund to buy the Poor some meat and drink and means of warmth. We choose this time, because it is a time, of all others, when Want is keenly felt, and Abundance rejoices. What shall I put you down for?"

"Nothing!" Scrooge replied.

"You wish to be anonymous?"

"I wish to be left alone," said Scrooge. "Since you ask me what I wish, gentlemen, that is my answer. I don't make merry myself at Christmas and I can't afford to make idle people merry. I help to support the establishments I have mentioned -- they cost enough; and those who are badly off must go there."

"Many can't go there; and many would rather die."

"If they would rather die," said Scrooge, "they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population. Besides -- excuse me -- I don't know that."

"But you might know it," observed the gentleman.

"It's not my business," Scrooge returned. "It's enough for a man to understand his own business, and not to interfere with other people's. Mine occupies me constantly. Good afternoon, gentlemen!"

Seeing clearly that it would be useless to pursue their point, the gentlemen withdrew. Scrooge returned his labours with an improved opinion of himself, and in a more facetious temper than was usual with him.

nines09 Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:23:09am

So much for "Christian" values that Fox supposedly espouses. Cretinous vermin. Happy Fucking Holidays jerkoffs.

dragonfire1981 Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:37:04am

Dear Mr. Napolitano,

What do you think the world would be like if Jesus had been a selfish prick who preached that everyone should only look after themselves at the expense of all others?

theheat Mon, Nov 29, 2010 10:09:12am

re: #20 dragonfire1981

Dear Mr. Napolitano,

What do you think the world would be like if Jesus had been a selfish prick who preached that everyone should only look after themselves at the expense of all others?

A Republican stronghold?

theheat Mon, Nov 29, 2010 10:14:32am

Holy crap, this guy sounds like Elmer Fucking Fudd in the flesh. I can't get past that voice coming out from under that ridiculous Conservative Combover™.

"Mewwy Quismuss," to you too, you tightwad POS. And may you hunt many wabbits.

Fozzie Bear Mon, Nov 29, 2010 10:23:09am

This is what it looks like when people who have everything allow themselves to think that they have what they have because they are special, rather than fortunate. Welcome to Gordon Gecko's America. Welcome to a Republican's wet dream. Welcome to hell.

calochortus Mon, Nov 29, 2010 10:27:29am

You'd think they'd at least have coached Napolitano in how to pronounce "Ayn".

Of course, none of these people ever derive any benefit from government themselves.// Infrastructure, education, patent protection, etc. do not contribute to their success in the slightest.

And I wonder why anyone would marry an objectivist? I always thought the point of a family was to look out for each other and be somewhat selfless about it. I did check Dr. Brook's bio in several places and saw nothing about a family beyond the fact he has parents. Now family could be deemed irrelevant in his bios, but I suspect not.

Lidane Mon, Nov 29, 2010 10:27:55am

re: #20 dragonfire1981

What do you think the world would be like if Jesus had been a selfish prick who preached that everyone should only look after themselves at the expense of all others?

An anarcho-capitalist's wet dream. Too bad for them that revolutions were fought over a lot less. =P

calochortus Mon, Nov 29, 2010 11:07:32am

The more I think about it, the more I wonder what is keeping these folks from finding a nice spot, free from the tyranny of good roads, clean water and education to set up a demonstration project? Somalia leaps to mind, but I'm sure there are many other fine locations without functioning governments where they could prove their theories.

If it worked, it would do more to convert people than any number of debates and TV appearances. If not, they could all move on to something more productive to the society they so despise.

garhighway Mon, Nov 29, 2010 11:32:04am

re: #23 Fozzie Bear

This is what it looks like when people who have everything allow themselves to think that they have what they have because they are special, rather than fortunate. Welcome to Gordon Gecko's America. Welcome to a Republican's wet dream. Welcome to hell.

Born on third and think they hit a triple.

Steve Dutch Mon, Nov 29, 2010 1:28:13pm

Matthew 25:31-46:

31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

Interesting, isn't it? The only place in the Bible where God's words of judgment are actually quoted, and not a peep about "you accepted Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior." It's entirely about compassion versus selfishness.

Romantic Heretic Mon, Nov 29, 2010 2:28:10pm

So, if making my life the best it could be would require twisting this mendacious neo-Marxist's head off he wouldn't object?

I say neo-Marxist because Ayn Rand completely accepted the Marxist worldview. The same way a Satanist accepts the Christian worldview. And like a Satanist she inverted it so that evil became good and good became evil.

Her followers accept that view as well. The loony sociopaths.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Nov 29, 2010 2:29:55pm

re: #29 Romantic Heretic

Didn't she use to admire some murderer because he was kinda Nitzschean uebermensch?

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Nov 29, 2010 2:51:24pm

re: #30 Sergey Romanov

Didn't she use to admire some murderer because he was kinda Nitzschean uebermensch?

Sort of.

HappyWarrior Mon, Nov 29, 2010 7:28:20pm

I love it when so called Christians sound more like Ayn Rand than Christ. So fucking stupid. If they were honest about not really believing in the tenets of Christianity that would be one thing for me but they're not and act like liberal Christians are heathens. Seriously, the whole message of Christmas is about giving. Of course, to morons like this dude that's probably socialism.

(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Tue, Nov 30, 2010 12:20:22am

re: #30 Sergey Romanov