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1 Bob Dillon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 7:48:19pm

These photographs are genuine and do show the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. However, they were not found stored in a Kodak Box brownie camera nor were they taken by a sailor on the USS QUAPAW. In fact, the images are US Naval archive photographs taken by different people at various locations around Pearl Harbour at the time of the attack. The photographs form part of the historical image collection available on the Naval Historical Center website.

2 theheat  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:19:58pm

re: #1 Bobibutu

These photographs are genuine and do show the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. However, they were not found stored in a Kodak Box brownie camera [after 68 years] nor were they taken by a sailor on the USS QUAPAW.

Well, that is too much a contradiction for the people afflicted and living with Mayberry Syndrome, When All Things Old Were More Precious, They Don't Make Things Like They Used To When Film of Patriotic Images Lasted Forever In Indestructible Cameras, and Today's Unfortunate Liberals Wouldn't Know a Brownie Camera If It Was Shoved Up Their Ass, Because No Patriots Have Been Born After 1946, Except White Farmers and Rural Real Americans™.

Does that about sum it up, or would it translate better if I wrote it in big, bold, Comic Sans?

It can never simply be, "Here are some images of the attack on Pearl Harbor," without some kind of purely fictional nostalgia attached to the story, which is why I find these rah-rah news announcements so bullshitty. It diminishes them; they're powerful enough to stand on their own without the Fox News mentality embellishment.

3 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 4, 2010 9:54:11pm

re: #2 theheat

Well, that is too much a contradiction for the people afflicted and living with Mayberry Syndrome, When All Things Old Were More Precious, They Don't Make Things Like They Used To When Film of Patriotic Images Lasted Forever In Indestructible Cameras, and Today's Unfortunate Liberals Wouldn't Know a Brownie Camera If It Was Shoved Up Their Ass, Because No Patriots Have Been Born After 1946, Except White Farmers and Rural Real Americans™.

Does that about sum it up, or would it translate better if I wrote it in big, bold, Comic Sans?

It can never simply be, "Here are some images of the attack on Pearl Harbor," without some kind of purely fictional nostalgia attached to the story, which is why I find these rah-rah news announcements so bullshitty. It diminishes them; they're powerful enough to stand on their own without the Fox News mentality embellishment.

I've seen many of these photos before, so you're right about them. They still are very affecting, though. They a permanent reminder of what happens if we let our guard down.

4 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:02:56am

Sorry you were taken in, Bobibutu. I recognized 4 pictures right away: The two of sailors with wrecked planes (these are from the Ford Island Naval air station), the one with the big explosion (next to last), and the final one of the wrecks in the drydock. The latter are USS Cassin and USS Downes, both destroyers. The other pictures are less common, and very interesting, but there is no reason to believe their provenance is any different: They were taken by navy photographers using professional equipment and have been carefully preserved in archives ever since.

5 Gus  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:14:16am

re: #4 Shiplord Kirel

Sorry you were taken in, Bobibutu. I recognized 4 pictures right away: The two of sailors with wrecked planes (these are from the Ford Island Naval air station), the one with the big explosion (next to last), and the final one of the wrecks in the drydock. The latter are USS Cassin and USS Downes, both destroyers. The other pictures are less common, and very interesting, but there is no reason to believe their provenance is any different: They were taken by navy photographers using professional equipment and have been carefully preserved in archives ever since.

Yep. I recognized the photos. This hoax dates back to 2006.

[Link: www.snopes.com...]

[Link: urbanlegends.about.com...]

6 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:20:08am

The USS Quapaw, an ocean tug, wasn't even laid down until December 28, 1942, well over a year after the attack. Quapaw was commissioned on May 6, 1944, served into the 1980s, and is still afloat under the civilian name Tiger.
The ship has a pretty interesting and varied history to say the least, well worth checking out. Her very first assignment in 1944 involved a lengthy sea voyage carrying a deck cargo of 7500 drums of aviation gasoline (!) and towing a gasoline barge from Pearl Harbor to Mios Woendi lagoon. In 1985, Quapaw was the first US Navy afloat command to have a female exec, LTJG Susan Cowan.

7 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:24:20am

Quapaw's remarkable list of awards is a capsule history of the second half of the twentieth century:

Navy Unit Commendation, Navy Meritorious Unit Commendation, Navy "E" Ribbon, American Campaign Medal, Asiatic-Pacific Campaign Medal (4 stars), World War II Victory Medal, National Defense Service Medal (2 stars), Korean Service Medal (5 stars), Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal (1 star-Korea, 1 star-Op. Frequent Wind), Vietnam Service Medal (7 stars), Humanitarian Service Medal (1 star-Frequent Wind), Philippine Liberation Medal, United Nations Service Medal, Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal, Republic of Korea War Service Medal (retroactive)
8 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:29:41am

Sorry, Bob. YOU obviously weren't taken in.


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