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1 Charles Johnson  Fri, Dec 17, 2010 9:15:17am

Julian Assange, however, is to be allowed complete license to reveal the email of anyone on planet Earth.

2 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Fri, Dec 17, 2010 9:30:10am

re: #1 Charles

Julian Assange, however, is to be allowed complete license to reveal the email of anyone on planet Earth.

He is getting his own revealed, too. I guess you will have to judge the cases on a clear principle. The judge in this case pointed out the principle of “probable cause” which is specifically protected by the Fourth Amendment. Of course, this applies to law enforcement and their abilities to gather admissable evidence for a trial.

In cases of whistleblowers and leakers and the releasing of secret material, other principles seem to be more appropriate, like public interest which I guess could be argued had a role in the release of the US diplomatic cables (which in a lot of cases were classified but not private but state communication) or the private Neo-Nazi mailing list.

Ultimately, it will be up for the courts to decide. As has been pointed out elsewhere (see also NY Times), the prosecution seems to not want to go after Assange simply for the dissemination of the classified material, because that would make things shaky in relation to the other media outlets who also published the cables. Rather, they are trying to establish the conspiracy case.

3 Charles Johnson  Fri, Dec 17, 2010 9:35:31am

re: #2 000G

How was the public interest served by releasing the CRU “Climategate” emails? Wikileaks was played by the climate change denialists who put together that package, and they can be played by anyone in a similar way.

You’re deluding yourself if you ascribe noble motives to Wikileaks, in its current incarnation. It’s a brute force weapon with a huge honking far left bias that serves no useful purpose — and that violates the privacy of thousands of innocent people.

4 Charles Johnson  Fri, Dec 17, 2010 10:04:27am

And please note — this isn’t a knee jerk reaction. I’ve stated many times that I’m generally in favor of the concept of Wikileaks, and I don’t deny at all that governments and corporations occasionally need to have their wrongdoing exposed.

But this version of Wikileaks is run by irresponsible, narcissistic extremists with an obvious political agenda.

5 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Fri, Dec 17, 2010 12:01:43pm
How was the public interest served by releasing the CRU “Climategate” emails? Wikileaks was played by the climate change denialists who put together that package, and they can be played by anyone in a similar way.

I agree with you here (the “climategate” emails). But as I said: I think it’s best to judge this case by case. I think there is a public interest for the cables. Note that I do not think that “public interest” is a noble cause (papparazis are also just serving a public interest), but that it is a legit one. And the public in this case is far larger than just the american people, btw.

It’s a brute force weapon with a huge honking far left bias that serves no useful purpose — and that violates the privacy of thousands of innocent people.

I agree with everything but the “no useful purpose” part. I think the usefulness and the purposefulness of WikiLeaks, in its current incarnation or otherwise, very much lies in the eyes of the beholder.


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