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1 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 7, 2011 2:30:36pm

Dennis Prager is a screaming bigot, always has been, seriously fuck that guy and his show, and his nonexistant honor, fuck all his simpering victimhood

[Link: videocafe.crooksandliars.com...]

2 Michael Orion Powell  Fri, Jan 7, 2011 2:35:20pm

re: #1 WindUpBird

Geez. I always knew he was against gay marriage but the rhetoric was never that bizarre.

3 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Jan 7, 2011 2:48:02pm

Interesting perspective, Orion. Thanks.

4 Michael Orion Powell  Fri, Jan 7, 2011 2:57:42pm

re: #3 Sergey Romanov

No problem. I appreciate the compliment.

5 samuraishake  Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:17:39pm

Yeah, I know what you mean. I can't figure out why, but he completely changed. He decided it was more important to line up with an ideology than to stick to his principles.

6 Ogami Itto  Fri, Jan 7, 2011 3:59:19pm

I haven't listened to Prager in years, but back in the 90s I watched his short-lived tv show and read some of his writings. He struck me as a reasonable, intelligent person back then.

7 fantasmaguero  Fri, Jan 7, 2011 4:11:54pm

re: #5 samuraishake

I, likewise, was a Prager listener during the Bush years, until certain events in my own life (watching conservative colleagues and friends turn into foaming-at-the-mouth racists before my eyes, for example) and the craziness that followed Obama's election led me to choose between altering my principles or detaching myself from what was proving to be a horseshit ideology. It's regrettable that Prager is so wedded to his own ideological views.

re: #2 OrionXP

The more I think about his shows during the Bush years, the more I can recall some truly repugnant arguments cloaked in faux humanism - his anti-gay marriage stance, in particular. His non-reaction to you leads me to further reconsider my earlier view of Prager as the gregarious and good-natured exception to the more hysterical voices of the Right. I think a lot of people had him pegged incorrectly as such.

8 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 7, 2011 5:24:36pm

re: #2 OrionXP

Geez. I always knew he was against gay marriage but the rhetoric was never that bizarre.

Well, his rhetoric is more inflammatory, but it's not like he's changed his tune, it's just a more strident sheen on the same crap. :P Just one more social reactionary, just more othering, more bigotry, more paranoia, morte stirring up people to hate

Basically, more hate, is what it boils down to. The guy is a hateful person who supports bigotry. Always has been.

9 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 7, 2011 5:25:28pm

re: #7 fantasmaguero

I think a lot of people were played by his kindly grandpa appearance and taken for a ride.

10 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 7, 2011 5:37:11pm

Downding this, "Skandal"

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11 fantasmaguero  Fri, Jan 7, 2011 6:23:03pm

re: #9 WindUpBird

Guilty as charged. That had a lot to do with it.

12 freetoken  Fri, Jan 7, 2011 8:11:04pm

Being a late night radio fiend since childhood when I moved to San Diego as an adult I continued the habit, and I listened to Prager on the radio also, but way before your time. He was the host of a show out of LA called "Religion On The Line" which featured clergy from Judaism, Protestantism and Catholicism. Prager came across as a moderating voice, always insisting that what mattered was ethical monotheism and that denominational/religious differences ought to be respected and minimized in society.

He left that show and started his own years later. I lost track of him.

Not too long ago (about a year and half or so) a video of him giving instruction (in a synagogue I think) was put online, discussing various topics of contemporary society. Then he came to AGW. One can observe a notable change in Prager's affect and he becomes quite animated and hostile, claiming it is a leftist plot, etc. (the usual right wing spiel). When he was done with AGW and went to the next topic he calmed down again.

I thought it was an amazing example of how even those who claim to be rational fall into the traps of their emotions.

13 freetoken  Fri, Jan 7, 2011 8:23:14pm

Here's a (friendly) bio of Prager written in 1992:


Dennis Prager: A Profile

Margolis writes:

[...]

Prager's emergence as a radio personality seems as accidental as his career as a lecturer and the road it opened to Brandeis-Bardin. In 1983, as he was leaving Brandeis and deciding against a run for Congress, L.A. School Board member Roberta Weintraub, impressed by a Prager lecture, recommended him to KABC. His debut as a fill-in moderator for the Sunday-night "Religion on the Line" program, on which a rabbi, priest and minister discussed religious issues with listeners, was such a success that he was hired permanently while still on the air.

Religion, and the spin Prager put on it, brought in listeners. During his years as host of "Religion on the Line" and the other KABC talk shows to which he graduated, Prager's ratings have been high, according to station president George Green, often luring up to a quarter of total audience share and consistently getting the highest ratings among the station's programs.

[...]

So Prager got into the talk-show business, and the feeding of the large "conservative" talk-show listening audience, through religion.

Not unlike TV evangelists.

The religion industry has launched many a career.

14 Michael Orion Powell  Sat, Jan 8, 2011 12:51:37am

It's worth noting that evangelists are very successful because they are enduring, entertaining and speak what alot of people want to hear. They give alot of personal instruction, which people need. Textbook example is Glenn Beck here.

Interspersed in that fuzzy bear appeal is the fetishist, bizarre stuff seen above.

15 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jan 8, 2011 7:41:54pm

re: #13 freetoken

Here's a (friendly) bio of Prager written in 1992:

Dennis Prager: A Profile

Margolis writes:

So Prager got into the talk-show business, and the feeding of the large "conservative" talk-show listening audience, through religion.

Not unlike TV evangelists.

The religion industry has launched many a career.

You have a vector to stardom, then the means by which you climb keep changing as you become more mainstream


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