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1 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Tue, Jan 11, 2011 2:30:03pm

Unfortunately, sometimes that’s what it takes. When something is all about future probabilities it is easier to ignore or think whatever you want. But people start sitting up and taking notice when something punches them in the stomach, crotch, or pocketbook.

2 freetoken  Tue, Jan 11, 2011 2:58:56pm

Certainly appears so down in Australia. Look at the recent, record, flooding:

9,000 homes likely to flood in Aussie city


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Deadly flash flood hits Australia
Flood-weary Queensland, Australia suffered a new flooding disaster yesterday when freak rains of six inches fell in just 30 minutes near Toowoomba. The resulting flash flood killed nine people and left 59 missing. The flood waters poured into the Brisbane River, causing it to overflow, and significant flooding of low-lying areas in Brisbane, Australia’s third largest city with some 2 million people, is expected on Thursday. As I discussed last week, Australia had its wettest spring (September - November) since records began 111 years ago, with some sections of coastal Queensland receiving over 4 feet (1200 mm) of rain. Rainfall in Queensland and all of eastern Australia in December was the greatest on record, and the year 2010 was the rainiest year on record for Queensland. The ocean waters surrounding Australia were the warmest on record during 2010, and these exceptionally warm waters allowed much higher amounts of water vapor to evaporate into the atmosphere, helping fuel the heavy rains. The record warm ocean temperatures were due to a combination of global warming and the moderate to strong La Niña event that has been in place since July. Queensland typically has its rainiest years when La Niña events occur, due to the much warmer than average ocean temperatures that occur along the coast. Beginning in December, the Queensland floods have killed at least 19, and done $5 billion in damage. Queensland has an area the size of Germany and France combined.


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The vid from Master’s blog entry:
[Link: www.youtube.com…]

3 elizajane  Tue, Jan 11, 2011 3:29:08pm

Actually, this is more or less what the scientific community is concluding as well: that only immediate economic forces (ie., insurance rates) will bring people to accept the effects of climate change. The insurance companies are not stupid. They know what’s happening.
The problem is that in places like Bangladesh or sub-Saharan Africa, where the effects of climate change will be quite severe before they are felt here, there is no insurance market and nothing to incentivize investment in adaptation or behavioral change.

4 Bob Levin  Tue, Jan 11, 2011 4:24:34pm

re: #3 elizajane

There are other factors that affect belief and behavior. It just so happens that logic and science are among the weakest. Take heart that the human race has weathered (no pun intended) greater challenges.


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