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1 Buck  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:45:09pm

Feel free to use any or all of this…. I think it would add to your site:

The document is his real birth certificate, and HAS been presented outside of DailyKOS. AND it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. birth and citizenship.

The head of the Health Department in Hawaii has confirmed that the original certificate is the same as the copy, and therefore Obama was born when and where his American family says he was, Kapiolani Hospital, Honolulu.

It has been verified by the state government official who is responsible for the document and it’s authenticity.

The state created the document. That makes it his real Birth Certificate. It refers to where he was born as the county of Honolulu.

Hawaii does not create Birth Certificates that state the place the person was born as Honolulu, when they were not really born there.

In fact they have a rule specifically created to rule out this change of place of birth.

[Link: tinyurl.com…]

[Link: www.capitol.hawaii.gov…]


“The new certificate of birth shall show the true or probable foreign country of birth, and that the certificate is not evidence of United States citizenship for the child for whom it is issued or for the adoptive parents”

So the short form copy would not have listed his place of birth as Honolulu.

You might think that Hawaii Revised Statute 338-178 would have allowed that.

Well there is no Hawaii Revised Statute 338-178.

Now there is a section 338.17.8. But it covers certificates for those born out of state, not out of the country, and as per Hawaii Revised Statute 338.20.5 it does not change the Place of Birth.

But even if someone wants to argue about that, it doesn’t matter because 338-17.8 didn’t exist until 1982.


The state of Hawaii has been very clear, they hold the original 1961 birth certificate. He was born in Hawaii. The State of Hawaii does not hold the original birth certificates of people born in Kenya. The State, or Province in Kenya would hold that. The verified document states clearly where he was born, in the county of Honolulu. (I have verified that there is no County of Honolulu in Kenya.)

Again, Hawaii has never handed out birth certificates, amended, or otherwise that state the person being born in Honolulu when they were not really born there. If they did, then every illegal alien would show up and get one. As this document meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. birth and citizenship.

There is NO REQUIREMENT other than presenting this document to confirm the citizen requirements of qualifying for POTUS.

This document is official, and has been verified, and has been presented.

The Hawaiian official only confirmed the documents, but not the location of birth because she can’t attest to him being born in the hospital that the documents from 1961 say he was. She was not a witness to that event in 1961.

However, she can verify that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate. And that it matches the copy that the State, and her department have provided the world. That very official and legal copy says he was born in Honolulu.


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