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1 deranged cat  Fri, Jan 14, 2011 1:12:17pm

she did the right thing calling 911. She may have even been the first, and it could've made a big difference.

I find it amazing that Daniel Hernandez and the other staffers were so brave, too. Daniel is 2 years younger than me and I would probably be in shock if i was in that situation.

2 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Jan 14, 2011 1:45:09pm

From, the website of Lt. Col. Dave Grossman:

As the heart rate increases above 175, the aptly named Condition Black may be experienced – the likelyhood of this level occurring can clearly be reduced by inoculation through training. Rational cognitive processes are supplanted and instinctive reactions may be wildly beyond any level of reasonable reaction, including freezing (a typical phobic reaction), voiding of bladder, bowels or stomach, and acts of heroic or cowardly recklessness. Motor skills are also reduced to their most basic level. In this state the midbrain is controlling much if not all of the body’s reactions and related movements.We all have had experiences of trying to talk to an extremely angry or frightened person – the more angry or frightened they become, the less rational they become. This is because the animal-like midbrain is dominant with the forebrain, with its rational aspects, largely silenced.

"In World War II," Grossman continued, "20% admitted to losing control of their bowels in combat, 50% to losing control of their bladder. How many more lied?" Grossman said the healthy response to extreme fear response is not to be embarrassed or humiliated. "Just change your drawers and move on."

3 What, me worry?  Fri, Jan 14, 2011 2:10:42pm

Correct, we don't know what we would do, even those trained to help.

I'm generally a chicken. I've done certain acts of bravery, what I consider to be brave. I once shouted down an anti-Semite who was rambling about the Jews at CompUSA when no one did a thing but stand there.

Another time a young man, with obvious mental and physical disabilities was having a hard time walking across the floor in a hotel lobby. He would start to topple, then straighten himself, and start to topple again. I went up to him and helped him across the floor to a chair. There must have been 50 people in the lobby that day and everyone acted as if he was invisible. Is that bravery? I'm not sure.

For us chicken lay-people, I think it has a lot to do with how brave you're feeling on that day.

4 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:17:03pm

I run towards stuff. It's not because I'm brave. It's because I'm stupid. My brain goes blank in the moment, but my reaction is to run towards what's happening. It's got nothing to do with a conscious decision or my character, and I usually can't do jack shit when I get there.

It's really nothing to do with bravery. In fact, I'd say it's fear. I fear turning my back on whatever it is. I need to go towards it, to see it, because I'm afraid.

5 Kronocide  Fri, Jan 14, 2011 4:53:27pm

'I was afraid to be a coward.'


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