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1 Michael McBacon  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 9:32:46am

Funny. Last I checked...

-Reform Judaism was a liberal sect that championed equal rights.

-Radical "Islam" consisted of far-right, fundamentalists.

2 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 9:48:59am

Beck is full of shit, as always. But that is no more antisemitic than criticizing fundamentalist branches of Judaism would be.

3 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 9:55:54am

WTF?

4 Lidane  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 9:57:21am

Reform Judaism has nothing in common with radical Islam. That's like saying that pacifist Quakers are equal to the nutjobs that bomb abortion clinics.

5 Fenris  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:08:56am

In other news, it appears the Christian left too is "almost like radical Islam."

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6 HappyWarrior  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:09:47am

Yeah because there's a Reform Judaism version of Al Queda. The guy keeps on saying more and more crazy crap.As pointed out, he's really not the problem, it's the people who buy his nonsense.

7 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:12:33am

To be fair to Beck - on the premise that even bad people's words should be presented in an objective manner, since they say much idiotic stuff to hang themselves anyway - he did explicitly point out that he doesn't mean terror and this sort of thing by his comparison. I'm not defending the comparison itself (duh). I'm just saying that he did not really equate the two.

8 SpaceJesus  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:25:38am

Did Beck just compare Jews with Al Qaeda

9 sliv_the_eli  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:28:21am

re: #4 Lidane

Reform Judaism has nothing in common with radical Islam. That's like saying that pacifist Quakers are equal to the nutjobs that bomb abortion clinics.

There was a time when LGF posters regularly sought to blame the Amish for every terrorist bombing.


Of course, those posts were usually accompanied by a sarc tag.

10 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:58:21am

I wouldn't even compare the Satmars to Al Qaeda. But Reform Judaism? That's like comparing the Episcopalians to Al Qaeda. (Remember: Reform Judaism is just like Episcopalianism, with bagels and lox)

11 Velvet Elvis  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 12:19:58pm

So any Jewish girl who would go out on a date with me would have to be a terrorist.

Figures.

12 Bob Levin  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 2:34:46pm

re: #2 Sergey Romanov

He's misrepresenting the nature of Reform Judaism, and then making the association to reactionary Islam.

Do we know what is in Beck's heart? No. But that's an astounding distortion of reality that really stretches the definition of sanity.

13 Bob Levin  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 2:38:09pm

Reform Judaism, for the record, is mostly about driving to synagogue. Really.

14 Bob Levin  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 2:40:43pm

re: #7 Sergey Romanov

One of the tricks that people like Beck understand is that you don't actually have to literally equate something for that equal sign to appear in someone's mind. All that is needed is a juxtaposition.

15 calochortus  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 4:06:35pm

Hmmmm, "most people don't understand" various things about Judaism, and then he goes on to talk about "Reformed" rabbis. Maybe they are reformed but I always thought it was Reform Judaism. Glad Glenn set me straight on that.

Meanwhile I'd better take a closer look at my Jewish friends and /or neighbors. Can't be too careful...
/

16 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 4:18:08pm

re: #12 Bob Levin

He's misrepresenting the nature of Reform Judaism, and then making the association to reactionary Islam.

Do we know what is in Beck's heart? No. But that's an astounding distortion of reality that really stretches the definition of sanity.

Which is why Beck is a tone-deaf idiot. But he did not just call 1/3 of Jews terrorists.

17 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 4:25:56pm

re: #14 Bob Levin

One of the tricks that people like Beck understand is that you don't actually have to literally equate something for that equal sign to appear in someone's mind. All that is needed is a juxtaposition.

I just don't think this was any sort of pre-planned thing at all. Listen, I think there is a good chance Beck has antisemitic leanings and I've explained why I think that - he's leaning to paleoconservatism, he promotes obscure hard-right authors from antisemitic/racist milieu (Dilling comes to mind), he builds conspiracy theories around various leftist orgs, old and new, seeking for "links", and he surely has to notice that there were many Jews involved with these movements (and given his simplistic paranoid worldview he would have to resist reaching certain conclusions that typical antisemites usually make) - in fact recently he cited 9 people ruining America, 8 of them were Jews, then there's obsession with Soros etc. - so, yeah. But I don't think he seriously intended this comparison for a nefarious purpose. It was probably just a faux pas.

18 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 5:12:14pm

This is one of the most retarded thing that I have ever heard from Beck and that is saying a lot.

Reform Jews are the most liberal (in the sense of non-traditionally observant) and the least religious of the modern Jewish movements that still bothers believing in G-d.

They are absolutely the kumbaya wing of modern Judaism.

To compare them to the devoutly fanatically religious Al-queda is like comparing a Carter Democrat to Sarah Palin. You just simply couldn't get philosophies more further removed.

19 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 5:16:29pm

re: #2 Sergey Romanov

What are you talking about? Comparing a large group of law abiding Americans and their take on religion (ironically a deeply anti-religious one) to Al-Queda is not a criticism. It is an egregious smear and a lie. In this case, one directed against Jews.

I am certain you have some marvelous philosophical distinction to make, however the truth of the matter is that a libel is still a libel and not a criticism.

20 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 5:17:16pm

re: #10 Alouette

I wouldn't even compare the Satmars to Al Qaeda. But Reform Judaism? That's like comparing the Episcopalians to Al Qaeda. (Remember: Reform Judaism is just like Episcopalianism, with bagels and lox)

LOL. This is very well said.

21 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 5:18:03pm

re: #11 Conservative Moonbat

So any Jewish girl who would go out on a date with me would have to be a terrorist.

Figures.

or desperate...

////

sorry

sorry

sorry

don't mean it, couldn't resist.

22 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 5:21:39pm

re: #19 LudwigVanQuixote

What are you talking about? Comparing a large group of law abiding Americans and their take on religion (ironically a deeply anti-religious one) to Al-Queda is not a criticism. It is an egregious smear and a lie. In this case, one directed against Jews.

I am certain you have some marvelous philosophical distinction to make, however the truth of the matter is that a libel is still a libel and not a criticism.

There are two issues. The foolish object of comparison and what Beck intends to be a criticism (which is that RJ is allegedly about politics and not religion - not true, but he intends it as criticism). In the first comment I addressed the latter part, and it's not antisemitic, simply incorrect.

23 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 5:27:25pm

re: #21 LudwigVanQuixote

LOL!

24 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 6:19:41pm

re: #22 Sergey Romanov

OK in literal terms he did not make a comparison. In dog whistle terms he did and the comparison is antisemitic and as anti semitic as his Soros hit pieces that draw every libel from the Protocols.

I understand the distinction you are making.

I do.

In a more rational world, where his fans were more rational people, I might be inclined to agree with you.

However, he is a hateful showman and his slavering followers understand his points (explitict and implicit) all too well.

25 Bob Levin  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 7:24:49pm

re: #17 Sergey Romanov

Maybe. I think that for people who have a refined skill (radio and television broadcasting fits into that category), some things just become second nature. He's really good at that 'Everyone else is lying to you, hiding the truth, except me' move. This is just part of that move. Call it Paranoid Jazz.

26 Jimmah  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 1:43:04am

re: #18 LudwigVanQuixote

Reform Jews are the most liberal (in the sense of non-traditionally observant) and the least religious of the modern Jewish movements that still bothers believing in G-d.

They are absolutely the kumbaya wing of modern Judaism.

That's why Beck hates them. They're progressives! These are the kind of Jews that Geller et al hate too, only they would call them 'kapos'.

27 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Feb 23, 2011 2:01:51am

re: #24 LudwigVanQuixote

I absolutely get what you're saying and I think that we mostly agree. Liberal Jews and radical Islam in one sentence linking them is never benign, whatever the author's purpose was.


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