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1 Velvet Elvis  Sat, Mar 5, 2011 9:55:33pm

Do these people really reject the basic principle of the social contract?

2 aagcobb  Sat, Mar 5, 2011 10:08:18pm

The belief that libertarians are loopy is confirmed.

3 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Sat, Mar 5, 2011 10:38:51pm

For me, listening to or reading libertarians always feels like being on a whirling, out of control merry-go-round with manic circus music.

4 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Sat, Mar 5, 2011 11:24:04pm

Alien blog headline in about 100 years: Rigid ideology destroys humans, asteroid facilitates.

5 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 6, 2011 12:47:32am

We're so screwed.

6 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 6, 2011 12:53:51am

Oh, god read her comments. Libertarianutso in the extreme.

7 nines09  Sun, Mar 6, 2011 9:00:29am

Libertarians prove once again that there were no Libertarians present at the Constitutional Convention in 1787 in Philadelphia, because if there was, they would still be trying to figure it out.

8 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Mar 6, 2011 9:02:17am

Proof once again that many people are far more comfortable with belief than thinking. Hilarious!

9 lostlakehiker  Sun, Mar 6, 2011 9:23:21am

Asteroid defense is fun to think about. We don't know now of any big asteroids that might collide with the earth. But what if we discovered that a continent killer was spinning out there, with our name on it? [Well, somebody's name on it, maybe another continent, no telling just who would get hit.] It would hit in 100 years, say. At the cost of a couple trillion dollars, we could send a mission on its way within ten or twenty years, armed with all sorts of gee-whiz stuff, that would set up mass drivers on the asteroid. These would fling rocks mined from the asteroid off into space in such a way as to gradually modify its orbit into one that would not endanger us.

Suppose, further, that the task becomes exponentially more difficult as time goes by. Waiting another 20 years isn't a sensible option, because then the price tag goes to ten trillion. [It takes a lot more impulse to deflect the asteroid enough when modest deflections have too little time to add up.] In 50 years, it goes to 100 trillion. And so on until deflection becomes outright impossible.

Should we make the effort? Alone, if necessary?

Yes, of course.

AGW isn't essentially different, apart from one factor. We cannot deflect AGW alone. We simply must have the cooperation of at least two of India-China-Europe.

10 Girth  Sun, Mar 6, 2011 10:19:34am
I think it’s O.K. to violate people’s rights (e.g. through taxation)

Here's our basic problem. Libertarian thought says that taxes are a violation of your rights and some would say a form of violence perpetrated upon the public through coercive force.

The teabaggers got just enough exposure to Luap Nor to know that they hate his foreign policy but hey this whole libertarian economic thing, well it's just aces! Pair that with 30 years of Ronald 3:16 "For Jesus so loved America that he gave it his one and only begotten economic policy, trickle-down" and here we are.

11 shiplord kirel  Sun, Mar 6, 2011 10:38:18am
I think it’s O.K. to violate people’s rights (e.g. through taxation) if the result is that you protect people’s rights to some greater extent (e.g. through police, courts, the military).

Ok, then, Sasha, you and other extremist libertarians will be excused from paying taxes, but on one condition: It will be legal for anyone other than the government to steal any amount in currency or property or services, from you; provided such amount is less than what your tax burden would otherwise be. In that case, the taxes would be the greater violation and you would still be better off by your own lights. You are free to stop these thieves if you can, but must do so within the law, since they presumably have not abrogated their privilege of protection by the state. An exception would be made for theft by other fanatics like yourself. These could be stopped by any means possible, provided it is not a public nuisance; since they, like you, have removed themselves from the protection of the state. It would still be illegal of course to murder liberatarians, since we do not as yet have a monetary value on your life. Kidnapping for ransom must remain a gray area for now.

12 Fenris  Sun, Mar 6, 2011 5:45:20pm

Reason #108,983 I'm no longer a libertarian: satire apparently doesn't exist anymore.

13 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 1:01:28am

re: #11 shiplord kirel

Excellent application of RAD.

14 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 1:53:37am

I should read my own posts more carefully sometimes.

RAA ( Reductio Ad Absurdum ).

15 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 10:39:43am

Sometimes you wonder about people and this makes you wonder even more.

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