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1 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Tue, Mar 8, 2011 12:15:14am

What a horrible, and predictable, outcome from a horrible, pointless law.

2 mdey  Tue, Mar 8, 2011 12:53:13am

To the Nebraska legislators that passed this bill, I have just two words to say. Fuck You.

3 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Mar 8, 2011 3:15:00am

To those who claim that the GOP opposition to abortion doesn’t have any real world effects: Get real.

4 Lidane  Tue, Mar 8, 2011 4:03:07am

Absolutely sickening.

And for that sanctimonious prick who wrote the law, it doesn’t matter that he’s inflicting actual harm on people, or forcing them to go through something like that. It’s all about the almighty zygote. Again.

5 theheat  Tue, Mar 8, 2011 4:11:49am

The people that think abortion laws like this are reasonable are the types that buy the bumper stickers that say, “God doesn’t make no junk.” Yes, to them, even suffering, short lives are glorious. They think this is part of God’s plan that all life is precious, and all life is some kind of glowing homage to God’s work.

Well, obviously some life is more precious than others. Some is engineered better. Some is doomed to suffer and die. No amount of prayer and rose colored glasses changes the inevitable outcome. Yet, these are the very same lives fundies celebrate, make excuses for, and explain away as part of some mysterious “plan.”

And this is precisely why fundies shouldn’t be in charge of any policy that deals in science. They don’t live in the real world, where “junk” gets made all the time.

6 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Mar 8, 2011 4:58:39am

re: #5 theheat

Today, my knee definitely feels like a junk design. Ow.

7 JeffFX  Tue, Mar 8, 2011 5:42:49am

Don’t despise Humans, despise stupid, destructive Social Conservatives.

8 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Mar 8, 2011 6:42:33am

Sigh. What a sad story.

And damn those effen ideologues for making that couple suffer that way. There’s a place reserved in Hell for you.

9 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Mar 8, 2011 7:14:32am
The sponsor of the controversial Nebraska statute, Sen. Mike Flood of Norfolk, told the Des Moines Register that the law worked as it was intended in the Deavers’ case.

Of course it did. The intent of the modern version of anti-abortion legislation is to cause as much torment to the woman as possible. I have very little doubt of that.

10 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 8, 2011 7:31:40am

That guy is such a prick. Feel terrible for this woman and her family for having to go through this.

11 mh  Tue, Mar 8, 2011 9:51:23am

I’m not registering my opinion either way, but by this:

A fetus most likely would have felt no pain. This baby almost certianly did!

Are you *actually* saying you believe the baby couldn’t feel pain only ten days earlier??

12 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Mar 8, 2011 9:54:56am

re: #11 mh

The pain of suffocation is rather an intense one.

13 angel Graham  Tue, Mar 8, 2011 11:23:36am

re: #11 mh

I’m not registering my opinion either way, but by this:

Are you *actually* saying you believe the baby couldn’t feel pain only ten days earlier??

Actually, Yes. And No. No one knows for sure when a FETUS feels pain. It could be as early as 18 weeks or as late as 29 weeks, possibly later than that.

No one knows. Not me, not you. Not Scientist. It’s up in the air. I DO know that the BABY that was born felt pain. Died essentially suffocating to death in its Mother/Father’s arms. The FETUS most likely DID NOT feel pain, and the procedure for a MEDICALLY NECESSARY abortion could and would have been far more humane than what ended up happening.

I personally feel so sad for the parents. I believe that the trauma of having to deliver a baby just to hold it in my arms knowing it could not live is far more traumatic than having an abortion that was well thought out and planned for.

14 MH  Tue, Mar 8, 2011 11:56:44am

re: #13 sadangel

No one knows for sure when a FETUS feels pain.

Exactly. That uncertainty is why I can’t sympathize with anyone on either extreme of the abortion issue: the ones who say that a fertilized egg is equivalent to a full human being, or those who seem to believe that the passage out of the womb suddenly, magically imbues the until-just-recently-a-fetus with sentience, emotions, working nervous system, etc.

15 calochortus  Tue, Mar 8, 2011 1:04:49pm

re: #14 MH

There is no moment when a fetus magically becomes a fully functioning person. There is, however, a moment when the fetus is no longer physically attached to a mother providing oxygen, nutrition and general life support.
There is no other situation that I know of where one person is legally required to provide so much as a blood transfusion to another, to say nothing of full life support for 9 months, and loses all rights to bodily control if they refuse to do it in a way someone else considers appropriate.

16 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Mar 8, 2011 1:11:52pm

re: #14 MH

those who seem to believe that the passage out of the womb suddenly, magically imbues the until-just-recently-a-fetus with sentience, emotions, working nervous system, etc.

nobody holds this position.


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