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1 researchok  Thu, Mar 10, 2011 3:31:35pm

Texas has won the race.

2 Lidane  Thu, Mar 10, 2011 3:55:51pm

*sigh*

3 theheat  Thu, Mar 10, 2011 4:08:07pm

It's a competitive environment out there, and Texas doesn't want any other state to outdo them on stupid. So far, everyone else is only gunning for second place behind Texas.

4 Lidane  Thu, Mar 10, 2011 4:09:39pm

re: #3 theheat

It's a competitive environment out there, and Texas doesn't want any other state to outdo them on stupid. So far, everyone else is only gunning for second place behind Texas.

All the more reason for me to start thinking about relocation once I finish grad school, which sucks, because I love Austin. It's a great city.

5 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Thu, Mar 10, 2011 4:24:45pm
and development of organisms

If this language becomes law, I want to see someone start teaching that storks bring babies.

6 Sionainn  Thu, Mar 10, 2011 4:31:21pm

I finally figured out what the "R" after the last names means.

7 theheat  Thu, Mar 10, 2011 4:47:15pm

re: #4 Lidane

I loved Austin, too, but I didn't live there. I lived in upscale Hicksville - cowboys and fundies. Never again.

(Of course, I say that, and we have white secessionists moving in around where we live. Fuck.)

8 avanti  Thu, Mar 10, 2011 5:02:53pm

Wait a minute, just think of the money you could get from the religious right to do the studies./ You could do a fake study and get enough money for a real education just by cranking out a paper or two "proving" a young earth.

9 zora  Thu, Mar 10, 2011 5:04:16pm

re: #5 prononymous

If this language becomes law, I want to see someone start teaching that storks bring babies.

and this...

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Okay, how did the moon get there? How'd the moon get there? Look, you pinheads who attacked me for this, you guys are just desperate. How'd the moon get there? How'd the sun get there? How'd it get there? Can you explain that to me? How come we have that and Mars doesn't have it? Venus doesn't have it. How come? Why not? How'd it get here?

10 steve_davis  Thu, Mar 10, 2011 5:12:00pm

re: #3 theheat

It's a competitive environment out there, and Texas doesn't want any other state to outdo them on stupid. So far, everyone else is only gunning for second place behind Texas.

Well, except for South Carolina. We're so far into the stupid that a lower court recently affirmed our right to put a TM after the word, providing a small royalty to our state government for every use.

11 Henchman 26  Thu, Mar 10, 2011 5:20:57pm

ID should be taught in critical thinking and introductory logic classes as an example of poor thought.

12 nines09  Thu, Mar 10, 2011 5:57:05pm

So now when you have a bumper sticker with any University from the Great State of Texas on your vehicle....You can park in the handicapped space?

13 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 10, 2011 6:06:43pm

Creationism and Intelligence Design aren't science. IT's that simple to me. I swear the way the country as a whole thinks on evolution is so damned backwards.

14 jaunte  Thu, Mar 10, 2011 6:38:41pm

A related essay from Seth Godin:
The limits of evidence-based marketing

What would you have to show someone who believes men never walked on the moon? What evidence would you have to proffer in order to change the mind of someone who is certain the Earth is only 5,000 years old? If they're being truthful with you, there's nothing they haven't been exposed to that would do the trick. I was talking to someone who has a body of artistic work I respect a great deal. He explained to me his notion that the polio vaccine was a net negative, that it didn't really work and that more people have been hurt by it than helped.

I tried evidence. I showed him detailed reports from the Gates Foundation and from the WHO and from other sources. No, he said, that's all faked, promoted by the pharma business. There was no evidence that would change his mind.

Of course, evidence isn't the only marketing tactic that is effective. In fact, it's often not the best tactic. What would change his mind, what would change the mind of many people resistant to evidence is a series of eager testimonials from other tribe members who have changed their minds. When people who are respected in a social or professional circle clearly and loudly proclaim that they've changed their minds, a ripple effect starts. First, peer pressure tries to repress these flip-flopping outliers. But if they persist in their new mindset, over time others may come along. on, the majority flips. It's not easy or fast, but it happens.

15 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 10, 2011 6:59:30pm

At the University level? This will go over like a lead balloon (OR SO I HOPE).

See this:
[Link: www.texscience.org...]

16 SpaceJesus  Thu, Mar 10, 2011 8:16:05pm

fund what research?

17 lostlakehiker  Thu, Mar 10, 2011 9:23:17pm

The bill is stupid, but it won't be enacted. Universities will object, and will point out that even if enacted, nothing would come of the law.

Any researcher who dabbles in Intelligent Design will find his work unpublishable in serious journals. Grant applications to the NSF will be rejected with a snort.

When he comes up for tenure, if he makes it that far, he'll have a zeroed-out publication record and the letters from experts in his field will be ruthless. Those facts will quite suffice to justify a thumbs down.

And if he's teaching, and only teaching? The bill says nothing about that, so again, the bill would be an irrelevancy if it were enacted into law. Which it won't be.


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