China to overtake US in science in two years.

Economy • March 2011 • Views: 795

Well, this is clearly all the more reason to continue cost cutting on public workers such as teachers and education programs.

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Mar 29, 2011 1:36:21pm

Well, this is clearly all the more reason to continue cost cutting on public workers such as teachers and education programs.

As well as shoveling bronze age superstition into public schools under the guise of science.

Bob Levin Tue, Mar 29, 2011 2:07:05pm

I don't mind this. Science is transnational, the goal is to help solve the world's problems. I don't care where the solutions come from, or who is inspired and creative enough to have a good idea. Any meaningful discovery creates new industries everywhere else.

Besides, the folks doing this study are measuring scientific advancement by the number of papers published, not new industries or patents.

APox Tue, Mar 29, 2011 2:18:33pm

re: #2 Bob Levin

I don't mind this. Science is transnational, the goal is to help solve the world's problems. I don't care where the solutions come from, or who is inspired and creative enough to have a good idea. Any meaningful discovery creates new industries everywhere else.

Besides, the folks doing this study are measuring scientific advancement by the number of papers published, not new industries or patents.

I was going to comment on the latter part of that, it is by # of papers but when you look at the sheer number of graduates in the engineering and math fields / R&D investments outlined in that study, it really is quite shocking.

I don't really mind it either, because I personally will probably reap the benefits of any type of global technological discovery. But in a national interests, coming up with new ideas really is the way to compete globally and remain competitive. Of course while America is the leader in the world we can continue to import these bright minds from China, but it's only a matter of time until companies start investing more money in ventures there than here.

Bob Levin Tue, Mar 29, 2011 2:45:31pm

re: #3 APox

Looking at shear numbers is never a good idea when it comes to China. Our problems are deep, many of which can be solved by going back to the old model of having tech high schools and trade schools.

It's not the number of ideas, but the quality. If we essentially lose our inspiration, then there's nothing that can be done. It's ironic that this could happen because of all of the institutional emphasis put on creativity.

However, that's what I've come to expect from institutions.

Merkin Tue, Mar 29, 2011 3:50:12pm

It 's important to remember another investment China is willing to make. Their best and brightest students go into engineering, science and education. Our best and brightest go into finance, creating more potential financial crisises like 2008, into law to create more conflict or into medicine, the highest paid craft in the US.

Bob Levin Tue, Mar 29, 2011 5:03:22pm

re: #5 Merkin

That's a little bleak. The story is that in a few years the Chinese will publish more papers in scientific journals than the US scientists. Okay.

We have quite a few engineers and scientists. That's why we are presently leading the world. And science doesn't actually make an impact on society without the help of financial experts, and lawyers. In between, we need doctors. That's another branch of science, medical research.

It all fits like a nice puzzle. Our problem, given the school system, is that the puzzle pieces may not fit so well in the future.

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