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1 RogueOne  Thu, Apr 7, 2011 2:41:22pm

According to JS he lost 116 votes but he’s still up 200 (I think)

[Link: www.jsonline.com…]

Winnebago +244 (Prosser)
Randall +33
Bristol +27
New Berlin +200
Grant -116

2 Bob Dillon  Thu, Apr 7, 2011 2:45:19pm

BREAKING: Computer Error Could Give Prosser 7,381 More Votes, Victory
April 7, 2011 5:29 P.M.
By Christian Schneider
After Tuesday night’s Wisconsin Supreme Court election, a computer error in heavily Republican Waukesha County failed to send election results for the entire City of Brookfield to the Associated Press. The error, revealed today, would give incumbent Supreme Court Justice David Prosser a net 7,381 votes against his challenger, attorney Joanne Kloppenburg. On Wednesday, Kloppenburg declared victory after the AP reported she finished the election with a 204-vote lead, out of nearly 1.5 million votes cast.

On election night, AP results showed a turnout of 110,000 voters in Waukesha County — well short of the 180,000 voters that turned out last November, and 42 percent of the county’s total turnout. By comparison, nearly 90 percent of Dane County voters who cast a ballot in November turned out to vote for Kloppenburg.

Prior to the election, Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus was heavily criticized for her decision to keep the county results on an antiquated personal computer, rather than upgrade to a new data system being utilized statewide. Nickolaus cited security concerns for keeping the data herself — yet when she reported the data, it did not include the City of Brookfield, whose residents cast nearly 14,000 votes.

Throughout the day Thursday, official canvass numbers flipped the lead back and forth between Prosser and Kloppenburg. While many believed a recount was inevitable, the addition of the Brookfield votes for Prosser could push the justice’s lead beyond the legal threshold that would trigger an automatic recount. Under state law, Kloppenburg could still ask for a recount up to three days after the official canvass, but would have to pay for it herself.

“Waukesha County officials have announced a press conference for 5:30 CST.”

More details as they become available.

[Link: www.nationalreview.com…]

3 RogueOne  Thu, Apr 7, 2011 2:47:12pm

re: #2 Bobibutu

Wow. If that’s true then the recount isn’t going to matter.

4 simoom  Thu, Apr 7, 2011 3:19:54pm

re: #2 Bobibutu

[Link: www.nationalreview.com…]

Prior to the election, Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus was heavily criticized for her decision to keep the county results on an antiquated personal computer, rather than upgrade to a new data system being utilized statewide. Nickolaus cited security concerns for keeping the data herself

Did County Clerk miss a row on her PC’s Excel spreadsheet or something?

5 gehazi  Thu, Apr 7, 2011 3:23:09pm

I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but…

doesn’t this seem awfully convenient? //

6 Obdicut  Thu, Apr 7, 2011 3:33:11pm

re: #2 Bobibutu

But the recently-flounced LostLakeHiker said that this couldn’t possibly happen! Not only is that a switch from a Democrat to a Republican victory, but it’s a switch in the thousands.

If this winds up being accurate, it sucks, but them’s the breaks.

7 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Apr 7, 2011 3:41:33pm

Waukesha county is the far right center of the state. It wouldn’t surprise me to have the GOP “find” lots of votes there.

8 simoom  Thu, Apr 7, 2011 3:45:09pm

[Link: www.jsonline.com…]

Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus’ decision to go it alone in how she collects and maintains election results has some county officials raising a red flag about the integrity of the system.

Nickolaus said she decided to take the election data collection and storage system off the county’s computer network - and keep it on stand-alone personal computers accessible only in her office - for security reasons.
…
municipal clerks send their election night results by dial-up modem to the county clerk, where they are tabulated and stored.
…
Mike Biagioli, the county’s manager of information technology, sees risk in Nickolaus’ action.

“What happens if something goes wrong on election night? We don’t support her at all on election night. She was pretty clear about that. If something goes wrong, what do you do?” he said. “I would love to be able to go in and verify that everything is OK.”
…
Nickolaus’ election system, however, depended on the old platform, so technicians restored a lone Novell server for her use, without a backup.

Biagioli said a major upgrade to the election system was recommended, but Nickolaus has said it’s unnecessary.

In March, Nickolaus said, she moved the data off that server and into her own stand-alone system.
…
Several years ago, Nickolaus discontinued reporting election results on her county website for individual municipalities, as was done under the prior clerk. She said that change had nothing to do with the problems with the county servers or with her taking her system off the network.

Since the clerk stopped breaking out the municipal numbers I guess that explains how a city could be dropped and missed in a screwup.

9 Obdicut  Thu, Apr 7, 2011 3:48:12pm

re: #8 simoom

That sort of irregularity really shouldn’t be allowed, though. It’s a sign of how systemically our IT system is fucked up.

10 simoom  Thu, Apr 7, 2011 3:50:48pm

re: #9 Obdicut

Yup, hopefully this whole incident will be embarrassing enough for the Waukesha County Clerk’s office to start maintaining their elections data responsibly.

11 simoom  Thu, Apr 7, 2011 4:00:59pm

Is anyone watching the live press conference? It sounds like she thinks she maybe didn’t enable some macro and maybe didn’t click save at the right time or something:
[Link: www.jsonline.com…]

A Democratic rep from the county is saying she checked the new numbers and they’re good.

12 simoom  Thu, Apr 7, 2011 4:02:56pm

Still listening: Excel & Access macros on the Clerk’s system :o.

13 Randall Gross  Thu, Apr 7, 2011 4:28:09pm

From the apology she forgot to save once after entering a total from a precinct.

14 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Apr 7, 2011 4:54:04pm

re: #9 Obdicut

That sort of irregularity really shouldn’t be allowed, though. It’s a sign of how systemically our IT system is fucked up.

Step 1: Make all policies & procedures with regard to electronic voting tech a matter of public record.
Step 1.5: Only use voting software whose source code is available in its entirety for public review. Giving enough eyeballs, all bugs are trivial.

15 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Apr 7, 2011 4:54:31pm

re: #14 negativ

Given enough. Dammit.

16 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Apr 7, 2011 5:02:24pm

And who was this staffer who caused the ‘discrepancy’?

Well…

Nickolaus is a former Republican staff member in the Assembly Republican Caucus and has been criticized in the past by the Waukesha County Board for how she handled elections and lacked oversight over her operations.

From August of 2010

Waukesha - The County Board’s Executive Committee has ordered an audit of the county clerk’s election equipment and system beginning with the September primary despite several memos she sent to the committee over the weekend defending her practices and resisting the move.

County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus has maintained that as the one in charge of elections, she is responsible for the security and operation of the system. However, other county officials say they worry about the integrity of the old equipment and the system she’s using and whether she has adequate backup.

County Corporation Counsel Thomas Farley told the committee Monday that as an elected official with responsibility for elections, “If she wants to keep everything secret, she probably can.

“I don’t know if that’s wise or what she should do, but if she wants to and the public is satisfied that that’s what they want - someone who keeps everything secret - that’s up to them.”

The issue came to a head when Nickolaus removed the election results collection and tallying system from the county computer network this spring and installed it on standalone personal computers in her office. She has said they are backed up with redundant systems.

17 Decatur Deb  Thu, Apr 7, 2011 5:33:33pm

re: #16 negativ

And who was this staffer who caused the ‘discrepancy’?

Well…

From August of 2010

Isn’t this the point where the TPGOP routinely starts screaming “VOTR FRAWD”?

18 rwmofo  Thu, Apr 7, 2011 7:38:32pm

Heh.

19 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Apr 7, 2011 8:39:31pm

So we’ll just do what Republicans do and yell about voter fraud to energize the left for the upcoming recalls. It’s just one race and it sure is convenient how these votes were just “found”.

20 Amory Blaine  Thu, Apr 7, 2011 9:24:24pm

Sure didn’t stop the wingnuts all over the radio this morning from accusing democrats of voter fraud.

21 Pythagoras  Thu, Apr 7, 2011 9:28:45pm

This “error” should be thoroughly inspected. However, I think if Nickolaus wanted to cheat, this is not how she’d do it.

22 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Apr 7, 2011 9:44:12pm

re: #21 Pythagoras

This “error” should be thoroughly inspected. However, I think if Nickolaus wanted to cheat, this is not how she’d do it.

Yeah she does come across as stupid and incompetent more than anything. Either way it seems that a total recount is necessary. A whole lot of elected positions that were once held by Rs flipped to Ds in Wisconsin, so I say on with the recalls. I’m sure at least 3 out of 8 will be successful.

23 RogueOne  Fri, Apr 8, 2011 4:33:28am

re: #19 moderatelyradicalliberal

So we’ll just do what Republicans do and yell about voter fraud to energize the left for the upcoming recalls. It’s just one race and it sure is convenient how these votes were just “found”.

I would think this election casts some serious doubt about the possibilities of those recalls being very effective. They lost big in Nov and now they’ve lost this referendum. I’m starting to believe they don’t have much of a chance to win any of the recalls.


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