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1 Sionainn  Sat, Apr 9, 2011 10:45:55am

"...his remark was not intended to be a factual statement,..."

Translation = his remark was meant to be a lie

2 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 9, 2011 10:58:14am

re: #1 Sionainn

"...his remark was not intended to be a factual statement,..."

Translation = his remark was meant to be a lie

Yup. Shameless.

3 Kronocide  Sat, Apr 9, 2011 1:57:14pm

BALD.FACED.LIE.

They're not balancing the budget, they're using the deficit to revert back ideological purist visions of olden times.

4 nines09  Sat, Apr 9, 2011 3:29:11pm

Senator Kyl was doing what every fucking TP/GOP candidate/supporter/idiot/cretin has been doing non stop since Obama was elected. Lie. Cheat. Steal. Twist. Pander. Throw sleaze. Then do it again and again and again until every small minded/dumb ignorant SOB sez...."Yeah. I heard that too! Must be true!"
Facts? Who needs 'em?

5 John Vreeland  Sat, Apr 9, 2011 3:58:59pm

Don't exaggerate. He was recklessly bullying and making shit up in full Bill O'Reilly (Oh really?) mode, but his only lie was in giving the impression that he knew what he was talking about. Unless you want to assume that he DID know what he was talking about, in which case you have more faith in Jon Kyl than I do.

6 Fenris  Sat, Apr 9, 2011 6:09:12pm

The worst part is legally, he's likely to get away with this because hyperbole is a defense against the charge of libel.

7 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Sat, Apr 9, 2011 7:08:57pm

re: #5 Vreejack

Are you seriously going to equivocate over the meaning of lie? He fabricated a claim out of thin air and then passed it off as true until called on it. Even if he didn't know the real figure, he knew that he hadn't looked it up and pulled that little fiction out of his own mind.

The best part of all this is that the only ones that bought those lies were their own base. Now they are having to backtrack, which just makes them look even worse. Meanwhile the TPers are furious and screaming for blood.

8 Peter Kaufman  Sat, Apr 9, 2011 8:34:40pm

Burns: You know, Smithers, I think I'll donate a million dollars to
the local orphanage...when pigs fly!
[They laugh. The pig sails across the sky before them.]
Smithers: Will you be donating that million dollars now, Sir?
Burns: No, I'd still prefer not.

[Link: www.hulu.com...]

Inklake

9 Varek Raith  Sun, Apr 10, 2011 4:50:49am

re: #5 Vreejack

Don't exaggerate. He was recklessly bullying and making shit up in full Bill O'Reilly (Oh really?) mode, but his only lie was in giving the impression that he knew what he was talking about. Unless you want to assume that he DID know what he was talking about, in which case you have more faith in Jon Kyl than I do.

Oh, please.
He didn't bother to look it up.
Where did he get the numbers from? Probably some RW anti choice group.
You want to give him the benefit of doubt, go ahead. Otherwise, he lied.

10 BARACK THE VOTE  Sun, Apr 10, 2011 7:09:03am

re: #5 Vreejack

Don't exaggerate. He was recklessly bullying and making shit up in full Bill O'Reilly (Oh really?) mode, but his only lie was in giving the impression that he knew what he was talking about.

That makes sense. So it's only a lie if you tell it well enough.

I'm interested in your planet. How many moons does it have?

11 HappyWarrior  Sun, Apr 10, 2011 1:14:21pm

Sounds like an old slip of the tongue where Kyl and his people admitted that they want to spread lies about PP. Bastard.


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