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1 Locker  May 11, 2011 7:04:24am

Fucking bullies. How is this any different than killing people for the crime of being Jewish? I have no respect for assholes who’s only way to build self esteem is to marginalize others and ride down on them to give a feeling of control.

No sack whatsoever.

2 aagcobb  May 11, 2011 7:44:32am

Will GOP lawmakers come to Uganda’s defense to pander to the Religious Right’s lust for gay blood?

3 Romantic Heretic  May 11, 2011 8:18:57am

Good for Rep. Frank.

4 Eclectic Cyborg  May 11, 2011 8:32:31am

Our church has quite a few missionaries in Uganda and other parts of Africa right now. I’ve never looked much into missions, but maybe I should find out more about what these people actually do.

5 ausador  May 11, 2011 8:39:19am

They burn witches, why not execute gays?

*NSFW or HUMAN BEINGS: Warning extremely graphic and…just…tragically sad.*
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*NSFW or HUMAN BEINGS: Warning extremely graphic and…just…tragically sad.*

“Witchfinders” get paid big money in Uganda and Kenya to root out the evil causes of any tiny misfortune that befalls any member of the evangelistic churches that now run riot there. Since they all preach the “good news” version of Christianity that only fortune and success will follow once you become a member of their flock when something goes wrong there simply has to be someone else to blame.

Enter the witchfinders many of whom are “pastors” of churches that are supported by donations from here in America. It is beyond disgusting and at least on par with the Catholic Churches abuse coverups, yet it isn’t being reported on here.

While every Christian web site loves to say how badly they are being persecuted by the press and media it seems that there are still times when pains are taken not to offend their sensibilities too badly. Too bad because the national media really should report on what is happening over there and try to stop it.

If you can stomach burning your neighbors alive in a ditch because they have been accused of witchcraft (i.e.: like causing someones cows to get sick, etc) then I doubt you have a lot of problems with the government hanging gays. After all the bible says that they should both be killed, so what is the big deal?

*fuck*

6 ausador  May 11, 2011 9:22:21am

re: #5 ausador

There was a “Vanguard” episode (I think) that looked into this, mainly about the witchfinders mostly naming children as the source of village problems. There were a lot of interviews with the horribly burned and disfigured children who survived and are now in protected orphanages for them. Many times the people who assaulted the children were their own parents acting on orders of their “pastor” (with no theology degree or any formal religious training at all).

If anyone could locate that episode again I’d appreciate it…thanks.

7 Mostly sane, most of the time.  May 11, 2011 10:11:24am

I vote that any country that violates human rights doesn’t see our money. Why should we fund a country that hangs gays, burns innocent people, persecutes women and so on?

8 calochortus  May 11, 2011 10:23:44am

re: #5 ausador

This is in some ways a recurrent problem in Protestant history. In Keith Thomas’s Religion and the Decline of Magic he makes the point that when England made the switch from Catholicism to Protestantism, the vast majority of the population actually had no real understanding of any of the theology involved in their religion (including basics like the Trinity.) What they wanted was protection from bad things happening to them. Catholic priests handed out various talismans and religious medals to protect them. The Protestant clergy did not, so lacking magical protection from witches, the only alternative was to destroy the witches themselves.

It is obviously something that we should be leaving far, far behind us. I wonder how much of the lack of attention the situation in Uganda is getting is because the people supporting these churches actually do believe in witchcraft, and how much is just turning a blind eye in the interest of evangelization.

9 iceweasel  May 11, 2011 10:26:43am

re: #8 calochortus

This is in some ways a recurrent problem in Protestant history. In Keith Thomas’s Religion and the Decline of Magic he makes the point that when England made the switch from Catholicism to Protestantism, the vast majority of the population actually had no real understanding of any of the theology involved in their religion (including basics like the Trinity.) What they wanted was protection from bad things happening to them. Catholic priests handed out various talismans and religious medals to protect them. The Protestant clergy did not, so lacking magical protection from witches, the only alternative was to destroy the witches themselves.

It is obviously something that we should be leaving far, far behind us. I wonder how much of the lack of attention the situation in Uganda is getting is because the people supporting these churches actually do believe in witchcraft, and how much is just turning a blind eye in the interest of evangelization.

Well, in terms of media attention, I think a lot of it is undue deference to evangelical Christianity. Some of it is just lousy reporting. The New York Times did an especially abysmal job on calling out the connections American evangelicals had to the legislation. Google or boxturtlebulletin would have told them a lot more. Or this site.

10 theheat  May 11, 2011 10:40:34am

re: #5 ausador

Enter the witchfinders many of whom are “pastors” of churches that are supported by donations from here in America.

Ah, hell, there’s one out here in the sticks sending some backasswards “Christian” church down there money.

I loathe - loathe - loathe - loathe x infinity - missionary work done to convert and assimilate, and it doesn’t matter which religion is doing it. America’s evangelicals are bigtime supporters of just such fuckery.

These people need birth control, science, food, and education, not dumb fucking medieval dogma.

Honestly, burning someone alive for witchcraft. And I should give a flying fuck about their livelihood, and whether they’re devote enough? I’d rather rescue kittens from the shelter, thank you very much.

11 HappyWarrior  May 11, 2011 10:42:53am

I don’t blame him. Executing people for being gay is really barbaric to say the least.

12 theheat  May 11, 2011 10:48:33am

BTW, speaking of dogshit dumb religious “witchcraft,” I’d like to remind everyone of this Palin video where one of the dumbest dogshit witchcraft preachers around and Sarah melt into a puddle of stupid:

13 calochortus  May 11, 2011 11:33:33am

re: #12 theheat

Actually, if it were not for Palin, I would have no idea that there was anyone out there seriously worrying about witches. I suppose I am in her debt. Sort of.

14 SanFranciscoZionist  May 11, 2011 6:49:07pm

re: #4 dragonfire1981

Our church has quite a few missionaries in Uganda and other parts of Africa right now. I’ve never looked much into missions, but maybe I should find out more about what these people actually do.

Check ‘em out. Either you’ll feel better, or you’ll have a new cause.

15 SanFranciscoZionist  May 11, 2011 6:52:54pm

re: #11 HappyWarrior

I don’t blame him. Executing people for being gay is really barbaric to say the least.

Iran does it, and people scream that this shows the barbarity of Islam. Uganda’s planning to try it…and I have to deal with the knowledge that Americans of wealth and social prominence egged them on and funded it.

Meanwhile, QUIT turns out every time the LGBT film festival has an Israeli film, to scream ‘pinkwashing’.

The world is a deeply screwed-up place.

16 Fenris  May 11, 2011 7:24:07pm

If that law passes in its current form, our next campaign should be to get Uganda booted off the UN Human Rights Council.

17 lazardo  May 12, 2011 1:04:15am
Uganda’s infamous “Kill The Gays” bill, which would provide the death penalty for the “crime” of being gay, is about to become law, based upon current reports and the surrounding political situation in the staunchly conservative and Christian East African country.

That’s all they’re good for.


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