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1 aagcobb  Mon, May 16, 2011 5:57:17am

These whackos have been around awhile. Do you remember the freemen from Montana, back in the nineties? They considered themselves "sovreign citizens."

2 dragonfire1981  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:24:24am

Do these guys cross ideological lines with the Tea Party?

3 aagcobb  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:17:39am

re: #2 dragonfire1981

Sovereign citizens are extreme libertarians. They believe that statutory laws do not apply to them. They only answer to the common law, as applied by "common law" courts, that is, not state or federal courts, but courts without judges or lawyers with juries consisting of other sovereign citizens.

4 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:49:25pm

re: #2 dragonfire1981

Do these guys cross ideological lines with the Tea Party?

While both probably would self-define as Conservatives, I think Tea Partiers still believe that they can affect government in some way. Sovereign Citizens seem to have given up on the concept of change through participation in the political process and instead opted for some bizarre form of internal secession.

5 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, May 16, 2011 2:18:32pm

By the way, guess who else buys into sovereign citizen myths of the "straw man", which includes the conspiracy theory that the US government has in the creation of Social Security pledged the US citizens, born and unborn, as collateral for the debt it owes to the Federal Reserve? Wayne Paul, brother of Ron Paul, featured here in Alex Jones' film The Obama Deception:

6 wrenchwench  Mon, May 16, 2011 2:31:36pm

Fox Race-Baits Over "Sovereign Citizen" Story

The information in this story appears correct, although the author has been known for a serious lapse in judgment in the past, which to my knowledge has not been corrected. (He thinks Charles Johnson is a racist. One cannot get further from the truth than that.)


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