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1 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 12:11:49pm

The national security issues involved with climate are vast.

That is why you see declassified reports from CIA and NSA about this as a serious issue. That is why the Navy and the other armed forces are making noise about it.

Here is a fantastic two part piece about all the heavy military and intelligence brass talking about climate and security:

Climate Denial Crock of the Week - Climate Change and National Security

Climate Denial Crock of the Week - Climate Change and National Security - Part 2

Like all science deniers, there is an implicit and irrational belief in the GOP that if they can forbid people from reporting about the very serious dangers of something, those dangers, and the situation that caused it will go away.

This is an excellent post.

2 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 12:12:12pm

This is an excellent post.

Meaning your post is excellent and important.

3 Interesting Times  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 12:14:16pm

re: #2 LudwigVanQuixote

Thanks :) Please check your gmail acct when you get a chance.

4 The Spectre of the Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 12:17:55pm

I wonder how many companies and wealthy individuals who fund anti-climate change materials have already started exploring CC will change investment opportunites and “grow” niche industries.

5 dragonfire1981  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 12:40:30pm

re: #4 The Ghost of a Flea

I wonder how many companies and wealthy individuals who fund anti-climate change materials have already started exploring CC will change investment opportunites and “grow” niche industries.

All of em. Bet on it

6 The Spectre of the Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 12:59:30pm

re: #5 dragonfire1981

All of em. Bet on it

My memory isn’t serving me well, but my previous post is rooted in the fact that I swear there was an article about this very subject…but it was months ago and I don’t recall where.

7 Interesting Times  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 1:01:58pm

re: #6 The Ghost of a Flea

My memory isn’t serving me well, but my previous post is rooted in the fact that I swear there was an article about this very subject…but it was months ago and I don’t recall where.

Is this what you’re thinking of? It’s the only thing that comes to my mind:

They Know But Won’t Admit: How Oil and Gas Companies are Adapting to Climate Change

In one of most ironic flip-flops in environmental history, the oil and gas industry is beginning to adapt to climate change. And it’s no wonder. The majority of industry’s infrastructure is located in some of the most climate vulnerable regions on the planet. Nearly 75 percent of the Alaskan pipeline, for example, is built over increasingly unstable permafrost, which is now thawing under warmer temperatures.

8 The Spectre of the Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 1:46:25pm

Thanks for the link. I can’t remember in enough detail to say it with confidence, but I think this is the article.

9 Obdicut  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 2:06:33pm

Republicans Attack Climate Preparedness Even at the Cost of National Security.

Doesn’t need a question mark.

10 Interesting Times  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 2:55:27pm

re: #9 Obdicut

Republicans Attack Climate Preparedness Even at the Cost of National Security.

Doesn’t need a question mark.

Why yes, yes indeed it doesn’t. I only had it because it was in the title of the post I linked to, but I no longer feel like being that nice.


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