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1 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 8:41:48pm

Good find, Buck. This needs to be spread, so that Wisconsin voters understand how big a bunch of assholes union activists were on this one.

2 Interesting Times  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 9:07:29pm

re: #1 Dark_Falcon

This is the organization that put this "video" out:

Progressive Alert: MacIver Institute's Phony 'Reporting'

Be warned: The MacIver Institute is a not a news service. It is not a member of the traditional media. It is a right wing educational “charitable” organization and it is gathering footage to advance its conservative, anti-worker agenda.

Talking to the MacIver Institute is abetting the conservative movement in its efforts to ensure progressive values and issues are not a part of the public policy debate. MacIver has spent considerable time criticizing the 2009-11 state budget, the Recovery Act, reforming the health insurance industry and stopping global climate change.

No better than Breitbart and the Koch-funded think tanks.

3 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 9:09:08pm

Not the best show of judgment here.

All the same, fuck Walker. If my kid were participating, I would have had something to say to the Governor. It would not have been polite.

4 Buck  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 9:16:02pm

re: #2 publicityStunted

Right... this video is edited, and perhaps the union was not even there.

publicityStunted.... MFB and tu quoque to YOU!

5 Interesting Times  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 9:38:16pm
MFB and tu quoque

You keep using those words. I don't think they mean what you think they mean.

6 Pythagoras  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 10:18:48pm

re: #2 publicityStunted

This is the organization that put this "video" out:

Progressive Alert: MacIver Institute's Phony 'Reporting'

No better than Breitbart and the Koch-funded think tanks.

While I will not defend the MacIver Institute (about whom I know nothing), I think this line is unsupported in the linked article:

Talking to the MacIver Institute is abetting the conservative movement in its efforts to ensure progressive values and issues are not a part of the public policy debate.

There's a difference between criticizing someone (or misrepresenting your media credentials) and trying to "ensure progressive values and issues are not a part of the public policy debate."

7 researchok  Thu, Jun 9, 2011 3:42:02am

The video speaks for itself.

The protesters made a bad decision.

They need to apologize and move on.

8 Randall Gross  Thu, Jun 9, 2011 4:08:11am

more on Maciver:
The Institute operates the web site WisconsinOpenGov.org, which it says “provides you with one location for data on Wisconsin public employee salaries, benefits and labor contracts. We have worked hard to not just allow 'access' the way many government information sites do, but to give you all of the data in a format that allows you to select and sort the information as you see fit.”[4]

Institute representatives claim to have caught doctors in white coats in February, 2011 directing Madison, Wisconsin protesters to places where they could obtain absentee excuses for the time they were out of work marching in protest of Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker's "budget repair" bill.[5] However, irregularities were found in the report. The absentee letters listed the doctor as "Kathy Orton," but no Kathy Orton was found to be listed as a Wisconsin doctor. Also, the contact listed on the doctors notes was "Badgerdoctors@gmail.com," but there was no listing for "Badgerdoctors" which would presume would be the name of the medical group or association that the "doctors" were from. [6][7]

9 Randall Gross  Thu, Jun 9, 2011 4:14:33am

more at sourcewatch
[Link: www.sourcewatch.org...]

basically they are a dirty tricks fake news op ala Richard "Dr. Evil" Berman's operations, MacIver is funded by ultraconservative Lynne and Harry Bradley foundation, John Birchers, and some of their film makers have associations with Breitbart's sites.

10 Buck  Thu, Jun 9, 2011 2:33:15pm

You are guilty of "shoot the messenger", and you miss the point completely.

This happened, and it cannot be denied. If the media wont report it, and these guys do, then who they may or may not associate with is completely off topic.

If these were Tea Party demonstrators and Obama talking, you would not be talking about who filmed it.

11 Buck  Thu, Jun 9, 2011 2:33:49pm

You should be ashamed for making these excuses.

Ashamed.


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