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1 freetoken  Tue, Jun 21, 2011 8:34:32pm

First, we are supposedly a “center right” nation, and thus real leftists aren’t that common.

Secondly, more than being a nation which fits on some artificial scale of “left-right” we are a consumerist nation, one dedicated to buying stuff, and ever more stuff, for ourselves. And doing it as conveniently as possible.

I’d also like to repeat my often asserted opinion that the Democratic Party isn’t a coherent organization - it’s just a group of people who define themselves as “We’re Not Republicans.” I don’t expect much of an effective, coherent response from the Democratic Party as a whole.

Fourthly, I suspect world events will simply overtake the slowness of the US’s internal political machine. The world will just move as we sit here thrashing among ourselves, lamenting the declining influence over the next 4 decades, until we reach a point where we sit at a table with China, Brazil, and India and treat them as equals, and when the paleo-conservatives will have just died off and no one will remember Goldwater, Buchanan, etc.

Time heals all wounds. Well, not really, but it does allow humans to go amnesic and leave the past behind.

2 Interesting Times  Wed, Jun 22, 2011 6:41:44am

re: #1 freetoken

Secondly, more than being a nation which fits on some artificial scale of “left-right” we are a consumerist nation, one dedicated to buying stuff, and ever more stuff, for ourselves. And doing it as conveniently as possible.

This, more than anything else, may be what’s responsible for America’s decline - the redefinition of greed and gluttony as virtues rather than sins (and this is not a specifically religious thing - those attributes have been viewed negatively in multiple cultures throughout history).

You see this all the time with the childish, petty antics of right-wingers who deliberately engage in wasteful activity to spite environmentalists (e.g. leaving all lights on, water running, etc) and whine about healthy eating initiatives (e.g. Palin and her school-bound sugar cookies).

And when there’s talk of “sacrifice”, it’s only intended to apply to the people who already can’t afford to be greedy or gluttonous.

3 What's in the box, Jokey?!  Wed, Jun 22, 2011 7:23:23am

My impression is that the reality is a mixture of 20% of 2, 60% of 3, and 20% of “burying their heads in the sands thinking things will correct on their own in due time”.
At this point, I really do hope more action will come about sooner rather than later…

4 Blue Point  Wed, Jun 22, 2011 7:34:18am

I think that the majority of people just don’t tune in. We are here because of a long list of reasons. The main stream is lame and condescending and Fox is the arm and mouthpiece of the GOP/TP. When major pundits can say that Michelle Bachmann is a valid candidate for the POTUS, we are shown just how ignorant we are. It’s the oldest trick in the book and the right uses it like a hammer; “Somewhere, someone is getting something for nothing with your money.” I hope the insanity lies and deceit catches up. I wonder where the real GOP is. You know that one? Or this is the real GOP. Hate and bigoted and out to screw this country right into the ground to achieve power. The front runners all look sane to me./ At this point in time if I ever vote for a GOP candidate, look for a head wound. I will not be myself.

5 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 22, 2011 9:07:59am
Where is the Democratic/Liberal pushback?

Good question.

While there are undoubtedly many influences, #2 is probably closest to reality.

You might think it wouldn’t be hard to advocate for, and defend, initiatives such as univeral health insurance coverage, a consumer financial protection bureau, and stronger regulations to ensure food quality and safety. But if someone is defending these needs and successful legislative responses, I’m not aware of them.

6 Tim Nadeau  Wed, Jun 22, 2011 9:10:47am

Good post. Me and my “liberal” friends live in a republican district and just recently, the :tea party” tried to get on our Board of Aldermen. When and how can they be stopped?


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