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1 cat-tikvah  Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:18:45pm

"Designer" "Creator" -- it's all code for the Christian version of God. No thanks.

Here's the question I've always wanted to see answered by creationists. Tried it out on my fundy Christian mother-in-law; watched the wheels spin. This was on the heels of her shock of finding that I reject creationism because evolution is a fact. Go figure - an anthropology major who studied evolution and biology would reject creationism. And she's only known me for 30 years.

If the Bible is literally true and the literal word of God and everything in it is what literally happened...

how come the first two chapters of Genesis are creation stories that don't match and can't be reconciled?

2 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:25:14pm

re: #1 cat-tikvah

“One thing about living in Santa Carla I never could stomach, all the damn vampires anthropology majors.”

3 steve_davis  Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:54:43pm

re: #1 cat-tikvah

"Designer" "Creator" -- it's all code for the Christian version of God. No thanks.

Here's the question I've always wanted to see answered by creationists. Tried it out on my fundy Christian mother-in-law; watched the wheels spin. This was on the heels of her shock of finding that I reject creationism because evolution is a fact. Go figure - an anthropology major who studied evolution and biology would reject creationism. And she's only known me for 30 years.

If the Bible is literally true and the literal word of God and everything in it is what literally happened...

how come the first two chapters of Genesis are creation stories that don't match and can't be reconciled?

Unfortunately this doesn't work generally as well as it worked for you specifically. Yes, it's absolutely true that the creation story runs in two different orders, but believe me, literalists don't let such things dissuade them. It's also true that there's historical evidence that there were thriving civilizations in 4,000 B.C., and yet literalists have absolutely no problem believe that, for instance, that a civilization was completely destroyed by flood in 4,004 B.C., and yet not only was completely rebuilt soon after, but the flood itself was NEVER MENTIONED. You'd think having your entire civilization destroyed and then miraculously having everybody back a year later would cause comment, but apparently people just assumed it was like the lost year on Dallas.

4 Jaerik  Fri, Jun 24, 2011 7:29:52pm

"The" controversy? Really?

How about we teach the koran? Oh wait, too "controversial?"

5 dragonfire1981  Fri, Jun 24, 2011 8:11:30pm

"Ok, students pay attention. Today we will be discussing intelligent design. You see some people believe there is an element of design in nature. Meaning the earth and everything on it have been created by a God or by a witch or by Aliens from a planet far outside our solar system."

If they want to teach intelligent design, might as well take into account all possible designers. If they want it to be fair they can't limit it to just the Christian God as there are multiple creation stories across multiple faiths."

6 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Jun 24, 2011 8:13:40pm

Since the 2004 publication of Sam Harris' The End of Faith, and the subsequent The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins, Breaking the Spell by Daniel Dennett, and God Is Not Great by Christopher Hitchens, there has been a lot of controversy over the subject of whether God exists or not. I say teach the controversy. Present all the alternatives to the God theory, and let the kids make up their own minds.


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