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1 shutdown  Fri, Jul 8, 2011 9:42:12am

Respectfully decline your invitation to "Read Here". These people make me feel physically ill.

2 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Jul 8, 2011 10:34:33am

"Obedience"

I have dealt with these monsters and their pitiless, utterly self-serving philosophy all my life. Essentially, the secular government is the number one thing standing in the way of theocrat exploitation and power. The ultimate goal amounts to a revival of slavery, though probably not on racial lines.

3 What, me worry?  Fri, Jul 8, 2011 10:56:15am

Whoa.

The solution to poverty is to bring the poor under the authority of "Godly" institutions that can foster "obedience." The "poor" are divided into those who are "denied the opportunity to work and those who refuse the opportunity to work." And those who "will not work shall not eat." But Grant develops even more stringent requirements:

Mmmkay.

What about those woman who you made have children when you finally outlawed abortion? The fathers who left them and their children without money or a home? The mothers who are left with no skills, who can't afford childcare to even get a job?

What about the people who are mentally incapable of holding a job?

What about the people who are physically disabled and can't work?

What about the elderly?

Veterans?

Criminey, I wouldn't join their church if it was the last one on the planet.

4 Surabaya Stew  Fri, Jul 8, 2011 11:11:48am

Off the top of my head, Jesus would cut the Department of Defence.

5 renata39.5  Fri, Jul 8, 2011 12:37:23pm

They must have missed the part in God's laws for ancient Israel where the poor were provided for regardless of whether they were "obedient" to the law or not, and regardless of whether they were Israelite or "stranger."

They also apparently missed the part where Paul was reprimanding the members at Thessalonica for being busybodies rather than being busy.

10For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat. 11For we hear that some among you walk in idleness, not busy at work, but busybodies. 12Now such persons we command and encourage in the Lord Jesus Christ to do their work quietly and to earn their own living.

(emphasis mine)
Convenient how they skipped the context on that one. Helps them not pay attention to the part where they're supposed to be working quietly rather than being the busybodies they now are.

6 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 8, 2011 12:45:40pm

Weird. The religion that Jesus originally belonged to (those Pharisees and all) taught that charity must be given to everyone who is needy, without asking who is "deserving."


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